if you are home? Say you are not working and sent out several resumes and one of the jobs call you for a interview. Do you

1. Pick up the phone and make it look like you were home all day waiting for the phone to ring?

OR

2.Let the Voicemail get it and call back the next day to look not as NEEDY?


I'm in transition right now and not working and someone told me I should answer the phone if a job calls-lol I leave my ringer off until 5pm and then check the caller id.

Pick up the phone, Solomon. You don't want to miss an opportunity.

Pick up the phone, Solomon. You don't want to miss an opportunity.


Janice if they call at 9am to 12pm, I would return the call no later than 3pm.


If they call at 3pm and after, I would return the call at 9am the next morning

pick up the phone. it would be irrational of an employer to see you as "needy" for answering. not that there's no excuse for missing a call, but they're making the call with the intention of speaking with you right then. showing high interest in the job ("waiting by the phone all day") should be appealing to an employer, if anything.

pick up the phone. it would be irrational of an employer to see you as "needy" for answering. not that there's no excuse for missing a call, but they're making the call with the intention of speaking with you right then. showing high interest in the job ("waiting by the phone all day") should be appealing to an employer, if anything.


ok whatever time they call I will return it in 2 hours as long as it's before 3pm. Now does that sound better?

I don't want to give off the impression that I NEED a joob and have no other options.

That's a ******** philosophy. Just answer the damn phone.

I would answer the phone, since you would not be the only person on their list of calls.

I would answer the phone, since you would not be the only person on their list of calls.


What about when I was at work and jobs left me a message and I didn't get them until I got home???

What about when I was at work and jobs left me a message and I didn't get them until I got home???

Key phrase "When I was at work," If you need a job, this isn't the time to screen calls.

Key phrase "When I was at work," If you need a job, this isn't the time to screen calls.


Do you remember the ep of Fresh Prince when Carlton was waiting for a Call from a job and when they called he pretended to be someone? Well That's what I'm doing, I want to prepare myself mentally before I call a employer back just in case they want to interview me over the phone.

I want to give off a very good first impression with my professional sounded voicemail and then call in a hour and a half

Is this a potential employer or a 16 year-old girl? There's no need to play hard to get. They're calling you, because they NEED help. Answer the phone and make a good impression.

Is this a potential employer or a 16 year-old girl? There's no need to play hard to get. They're calling you, because they NEED help. Answer the phone and make a good impression.


If they leave a message after they hear my voicemail they are interested. That means they are already impressed and I have to take it from there

Do you remember the ep of Fresh Prince when Carlton was waiting for a Call from a job and when they called he pretended to be someone? Well That's what I'm doing, I want to prepare myself mentally before I call a employer back just in case they want to interview me over the phone.

I want to give off a very good first impression with my professional sounded voicemail and then call in a hour and a half

Well, if I were in your shoes I would answer the phone. As an Employer, I hate playing phone tag with people, that can be frustrating.

Well, if I were in your shoes I would answer the phone. As an Employer, I hate playing phone tag with people, that can be frustrating.


Shouldn't be phone tage if I call back in 2 hours

You're out of work, but when some one calls you about a job, you won't immediately pick up the phone and talk to them? Now thats just plain stupid. Sounds to me like you like being unemployed. Answer that phone if you really wan't to work. If it were me, I'd answer it before it had a chance to ring a second time.

You're out of work, but when some one calls you about a job, you won't immediately pick up the phone and talk to them? Now thats just plain stupid. Sounds to me like you like being unemployed. Answer that phone if you really wan't to work. If it were me, I'd answer it before it had a chance to ring a second time.


I like to present myself the right way.

Shouldn't be phone tage if I call back in 2 hours

They aren't always in their office, they could be in a meeting, they could be on another call.

You need them, they don't need you, they can always find someone else. Sounds like you need to put away your pride and answer the phone if you're serious about getting a job.

I like to present myself the right way.
are you worried about your chances of getting the job or what the employer might personally think of you? it doesn't seem rational either way.

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i applied at a position at CBS and if the phone was to ring and i see that station on my caller id i think i would answer -lol


I don't want to play no games with CBS

Like everyone is saying ANSWER THE PHONE SOLOMON! Esp. in this economy! And if you're not home out - looking for work & making contacts, return the call the next day, preferably early in the morning like at 9am.

This is in response to Solomon's post #16 I totally understand this and its GOOD you feel this way. The internet is a treasure trove of resources. Look up anything you're worried abt in terms of interviewing - there's lots of good advice out there. For example, look up things like Key interview Qs and know how to answer things like "Tell me about yourself" "Why should I hire you?" etc.

This is ridiculous! Solomon, you are not that important to the point where you can just choose a job in today's economy. You are going to suffer for missing out on a potential job. My 24 year-old nephew can't get a job he wants because he is too damn picky. Do you know what he's doing now? He's a school crossing guard for crying out loud and now he's complaining because he's not making the money he wants to. I told him he's getting what he deserved because he turned down at least two job offers that I know of. You mentioned you are out of work and is screening calls. Personally, I think you created this thread for the effect, on the other hand, it sounds like you are just lazy and don't want a job. You once criticized me for not having cable and not having a good job. But look, I've been on my job for 10 years in May. I am damn proud and fortunate to have it. How many people can say that? I have to leave in a few as a I type this in the bitter cold. You need not to take things for granted, or you will get what you deserve.

I agree with everyone else, Solomon, it's best to just pick up the phone as soon as they call. I know you might be worried about what kind of impression you'd give but you can bet that there are plenty of other people looking for the same job as you; if you're available at the time I think you should talk to them.

I'm in the same boat Solomon and I pickup EVERY time!

Right now, in this economy you don't DARE miss a call. They are getting hundreds of applications flooding in and it's tough enough just to filter through those. If they can't reach you right away, there's a good chance they'll just move to the next person in the pile until they get their 10 - 15 pre-screen candidates and you'll be sent to the bottom of the pile.

I have all my questions/answers prepared and ready to go by the phone so I'm always ready. That would be way more appealing to an employer than you getting back to them. A few years ago you could get away with that, but not now.

The other thing they advise you - don't play the game of I've got other offers on the table if they offer you the job. This technique is old, outdated and employers are onto it. I know first hand - my ex was hiring and a great candidate tried that one to up the salary. Frank would have nothing to do with it - they immediately took him out of the running because they figured he'd never be happy and stay.

A recession / depression is NOT the time to play "impression" games with employers unless you want to be on welfare.

I'm in the same boat Solomon and I pickup EVERY time!

Right now, in this economy you don't DARE miss a call. They are getting hundreds of applications flooding in and it's tough enough just to filter through those. If they can't reach you right away, there's a good chance they'll just move to the next person in the pile until they get their 10 - 15 pre-screen candidates and you'll be sent to the bottom of the pile.

I have all my questions/answers prepared and ready to go by the phone so I'm always ready. That would be way more appealing to an employer than you getting back to them. A few years ago you could get away with that, but not now.

The other thing they advise you - don't play the game of I've got other offers on the table if they offer you the job. This technique is old, outdated and employers are onto it. I know first hand - my ex was hiring and a great candidate tried that one to up the salary. Frank would have nothing to do with it - they immediately took him out of the running because they figured he'd never be happy and stay.

A recession / depression is NOT the time to play "impression" games with employers unless you
want to be on welfare.



I understand everything you saying but no employer is going to give me a job because i NEED it topay my bills. I don't want to give off that impression and that I don't have other companies wanting me. I want to let the employer know what he will be getting by hiring me and then let him make a decision. So I defintely don't want to make it obvious that living on unemployment is rough and this job would be better.

I understand everything you saying but no employer is going to give me a job because i NEED it topay my bills. I don't want to give off that impression and that I don't have other companies wanting me. I want to let the employer know what he will be getting by hiring me and then let him make a decision. So I defintely don't want to make it obvious that living on unemployment is rough and this job would be better.

You're going to be living on Unemployment for a LONG time with that attitude.

You're going to be living on Unemployment for a LONG time with that attitude.


A positive and ver pleasant personality who idoesn't seemed bothered by his current employment status or the economy would look more attractive to a employer than a person who is

nervous and talking fast and making it obvious they need the job

A positive and ver pleasant personality who idoesn't seemed bothered by his current employment status or the economy would look more attractive to a employer than a person who is

nervous and talking fast and making it obvious they need the job


Well don't look like you're ready to panhandle for sure, but still, if you look too laid back about it then they might think you're just lazy.

I always try to at least be enthusiastic about a position when they call.

Well don't look like you're ready to panhandle for sure, but still, if you look too laid back about it then they might think you're just lazy.

I always try to at least be enthusiastic about a position when they call.



The 3 P's

Positive, Passionate, and Pleasant

I understand everything you saying but no employer is going to give me a job because i NEED it topay my bills.

No, they won't give you a job because you need it or because you're nice, they will give you a job because you would be an asset to their company. However, if you don't pick up the phone, the offer for an interview or whatever could very well be passed along to someone else.

That's a ******** philosophy. Just answer the damn phone.

You are so lucky that I had swallowed my food or I'd ask you for your address for a clean up bill. :lol: :lol:

:wave:

But seriously, Solomon, answer the phone.

But seriously, Solomon, answer the phone.


I think I will now after this thread-lol

In this economy you answer the phone. Period.

OK a employer just called me at 4:29pm and it's now 4:40pm and i'm calling back right now.


Only dilemma I have is I need a haircut and won;t be able to schedule a interview until atleast friday or monday. I defintely can;t go to tomorrow on such short notice.


OK I"M CALLING RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OK a employer just called me at 4:29pm and it's now 4:40pm and i'm calling back right now.


Only dilemma I have is I need a haircut and won;t be able to schedule a interview until atleast friday or monday. I defintely can;t go to tomorrow on such short notice.


OK I"M CALLING RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought you were out of a job?

OK a employer just called me at 4:29pm and it's now 4:40pm and i'm calling back right now.


Only dilemma I have is I need a haircut and won;t be able to schedule a interview until atleast friday or monday. I defintely can;t go to tomorrow on such short notice.


OK I"M CALLING RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Sooooooo.......tell us what happened!

The call was from OfficeTeam and I thought they were calling me for a INTERNAL position but the call was for a position that was External and that is not want I need right now. The woman that called me on the phone I told her that I'm interested in being apart of the Office Team staff not a person who comes to Officeteam for Employment Assistance.

And when she was interviewing me over the phone and asked-"so from all the positions you had which one was your favorite? So I thought it was for a Officeteam position and I decline to come in and be interviewd on Monday. She did tell me to call back if I change my mind since she was impressed with my resume.

OK a employer just called me at 4:29pm and it's now 4:40pm and i'm calling back right now.


Only dilemma I have is I need a haircut and won;t be able to schedule a interview until atleast friday or monday. I defintely can;t go to tomorrow on such short notice.


OK I"M CALLING RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not exactly sure if you read what you type, mean it, or just says things to get a response.

If your seriously looking for a job, you make it your business to have a suit neatly pressed, hanging on the door with a white shirt and tie, ready to hit the door, to see corporate America at a moments notice. If they call at 4.00, you can say,"sure I can see you first thing in the morning" What your saying is " If someone wants to see me, then I'll get a haircut and that could take a day or two," otherwise I don't get a haircut. And you still say you want to work?

Harvey

The call was from OfficeTeam and I thought they were calling me for a INTERNAL position but the call was for a position that was External and that is not want I need right now. The woman that called me on the phone I told her that I'm interested in being apart of the Office Team staff not a person who comes to Officeteam for Employment Assistance.

And when she was interviewing me over the phone and asked-"so from all the positions you had which one was your favorite? So I thought it was for a Officeteam position and I decline to come in and be interviewd on Monday. She did tell me to call back if I change my mind since she was impressed with my resume.


Heck, I'd go in and get interviewed! If you're unemployed, you need any job you can get!! Besides, the lady was impressed with your resume - she might even be impressed enough with your interview that, if a position DID open up inside Officeteam you'd be one of the first she'd think of. GO FOR IT!

Not exactly sure if you read what you type, mean it, or just says things to get a response.

If your seriously looking for a job, you make it your business to have a suit neatly pressed, hanging on the door with a white shirt and tie, ready to hit the door, to see corporate America at a moments notice. If they call at 4.00, you can say,"sure I can see you first thing in the morning" What your saying is " If someone wants to see me, then I'll get a haircut and that could take a day or two," otherwise I don't get a haircut. And you still say you want to work?

Harvey


my haircut was scheduled for friday at 1pm so It was no way I could go tomorrow.

Do you need a job or not?

In November of '99, I applied for Christmas help with 'Toys R Us'.

One night, I was in my room so I didn't hear the phone ring, my mom was in the shower so the answering machine had picked it up.

So after we played the machine, I called back and misspoke the lady's name. I asked for Pam and the gentleman on the phone asked her name then I told him that she had left me a message. Then he realized it was Pam and that she had left for the evening and I could call back the next day. Which I did and got the job for the Christmas holidays.

Then in May of 2000, I applied for Old Navy and had an interview even though it was a group interveiw and got the job and still there.

That being said, I did have some help as to preparing for getting a job from a special ed department with the college that helps people get jobs.

Sol, this is being friendly, but all I'm hearing is excuses.....seems you are looking for obstacles to block you, rather than the opportunity to jump the hurdles to success.

BTW, I have missed the thread, but did you quit your other job before having a new one?? :crazy:

Sol, this is being friendly, but all I'm hearing is excuses.....seems you are looking for obstacles to block you, rather than the opportunity to jump the hurdles to success.

BTW, I have missed the thread, but did you quit your other job before having a new one?? :crazy:


I was laid off 2 weeks ago

^ ok, thanks

Hope you get something good really soon, my friend!

Face it, Solomon. You are full. You don't want no job. You are lazy. At least that's what I am getting after reading all of your lame excuses. Beggars can't be choosy, and in this economy, you shouldn't be picky. I guess you think you are someone special.

Face it, Solomon. You are full. You don't want no job. You are lazy. At least that's what I am getting after reading all of your lame excuses. Beggars can't be choosy, and in this economy, you shouldn't be picky. I guess you think you are someone special.


Garfield, I thought it was a call about a full-time job at the Agency, not a call to come in and take a microsoft test so they can send me to certain employers when positions open up which would only be temporary

At least it was leading you in the right direction.

You got more excuses than a man going to jail.

At least it was leading you in the right direction.

You got more excuses than a man going to jail.


well atleast i know if things don't change between now and the end of february I can call back and go in and take the test.

well atleast i know if things don't change between now and the end of february I can call back and go in and take the test.

Problem is, what if you call at the end of February and they tell you that position was filled?

Problem is, what if you call at the end of February and they tell you that position was filled?


The call wasn't about a job opening, it was about me coming in and being interviewed so that I can be sent out on temporary jobs. That opportunity will be available at the nd of february

OK a employer just called me at 4:29pm and it's now 4:40pm and i'm calling back right now.


Only dilemma I have is I need a haircut and won;t be able to schedule a interview until atleast friday or monday. I defintely can;t go to tomorrow on such short notice.


OK I"M CALLING RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So if someone had called you on monday of this week for a job interview, you would not have been able to see them till the coming monday as you have a haircut scheduled for this friday.

Maybe I'm nuts but this doesn't sound like a man looking for a job.

Whatever industry you worked in, use that as leverage. Look in the white or yellow pages for the names of related companies. call them up, get the extension for employment, call and introduce yourself, and state, who you are, and say "I worked for so and so in such and such capacity and I can be asset to your firm. I take direction well and am a team player. If need be I can take a leadership role. Bottom line is I will be a asset to such and such. Let's set up a interview so I can show what I bring to the table"

In today's economy agression is important. You can't sid back and spend the day posting your super bowl predictions and wait for the phone to ring in order to screen.

You want to sit back, do nothing and wait for job opportunities to come knocking. Ain't gonna happen my friend. By waiting till friday to get a haircut, you in so many words said, "I'm taking the week off"

Looking for a job is full time work and I'm sure you spend ten times as much effort posting.

Harvey

So if someone had called you on monday of this week for a job interview, you would not have been able to see them till the coming monday as you have a haircut scheduled for this friday.

Maybe I'm nuts but this doesn't sound like a man looking for a job.

Whatever industry you worked in, use that as leverage. Look in the white or yellow pages for the names of related companies. call them up, get the extension for employment, call and introduce yourself, and state, who you are, and say "I worked for so and so in such and such capacity and I can be asset to your firm. I take direction well and am a team player. If need be I can take a leadership role. Bottom line is I will be a asset to such and such. Let's set up a interview so I can show what I bring to the table"

In today's economy agression is important. You can't sid back and spend the day posting your super bowl predictions and wait for the phone to ring in order to screen.

You want to sit back, do nothing and wait for job opportunities to come knocking. Ain't gonna happen my friend. By waiting till friday to get a haircut, you in so many words said, "I'm taking the week off"

Looking for a job is full time work and I'm sure you spend ten times as much effort posting.

Harvey

That's the conclusion I came up with, brother. Solomon don't want no job. See all the lame excuses he's coming up with? A haircut? He should just comb that nappy sh*it. Solomon's lazy as hell. His life is posting about TV and sports online. Come Monday morning, when many people are at work, he will be posting his thoughts on Sunday's Superbowl while his phone is ringing about a job that he will be screening and won't answer.

So if someone had called you on monday of this week for a job interview, you would not have been able to see them till the coming monday as you have a haircut scheduled for this friday.

Maybe I'm nuts but this doesn't sound like a man looking for a job.

Whatever industry you worked in, use that as leverage. Look in the white or yellow pages for the names of related companies. call them up, get the extension for employment, call and introduce yourself, and state, who you are, and say "I worked for so and so in such and such capacity and I can be asset to your firm. I take direction well and am a team player. If need be I can take a leadership role. Bottom line is I will be a asset to such and such. Let's set up a interview so I can show what I bring to the table"

In today's economy agression is important. You can't sid back and spend the day posting your super bowl predictions and wait for the phone to ring in order to screen.

You want to sit back, do nothing and wait for job opportunities to come knocking. Ain't gonna happen my friend. By waiting till friday to get a haircut, you in so many words said, "I'm taking the week off"

Looking for a job is full time work and I'm sure you spend ten times as much effort posting.

Harvey


I didn't get paid until friday so the little I did have had to go in my fridge since there were no calls from employers as of yet. I'm not going to get a haircut when I can buy food especially when I don't have a job interview scheduled yet.

That's the conclusion I came up with, brother. Solomon don't want no job. See all the lame excuses he's coming up with? A haircut? He should just comb that nappy sh*it. Solomon's lazy as hell. His life is posting about TV and sports online. Come Monday morning, when many people are at work, he will be posting his thoughts on Sunday's Superbowl while his phone is ringing about a job that he will be screening and won't answer.


No I will do all of that on Sunday, Sunday will be the one day I won't do any type of job search which means it will be doing a lot more on Friday and Saturday. Plus if a employer calls you to set up a interview, they can't expect you to be free the very next day. They have to atleast give you a day or so
because you may already have something planned for the next day like another job interview or a doctor's apt. They normally ask you-"what would be a good time for you to come in?

No I will do all of that on Sunday, Sunday will be the one day I won't do any type of job search which means it will be doing a lot more on Friday and Saturday. Plus if a employer calls you to set up a interview, they can't expect you to be free the very next day. They have to atleast give you a day or so
because you may already have something planned for the next day like another job interview or a doctor's apt. They normally ask you-"what would be a good time for you to come in?

Sol, I have no idea who's been asking you "what would be a good time for YOU to come in?" Sorry dude, but I can't buy that.

For every single intervew I've ever had, it's always been "Can you come in tomorrow morning/afternoon at such-and-such a time?" or, if I already had a job and was looking for something better, "What time is your lunch hour? We can schedule your interview then". If I needed a quick hair trim or something the night before, I'd go to Supercuts or Fantastic Sam's or someplace like that (where NO appointment is necessary) and get my trim. Then I'd figure out what I would be wearing the next day, and be all set to go.

In this day and age, it's YOU looking for an employer, not the other way around. So I suggest you get on the stick if you want to be hired and make money. No one else is gonna do it for you.

Sol, I have no idea who's been asking you "what would be a good time for YOU to come in?" Sorry dude, but I can't buy that.

For every single intervew I've ever had, it's always been "Can you come in tomorrow morning/afternoon at such-and-such a time?" or, if I already had a job and was looking for something better, "What time is your lunch hour? We can schedule your interview then". If I needed a quick hair trim or something the night before, I'd go to Supercuts or Fantastic Sam's or someplace like that (where NO appointment is necessary) and get my trim. Then I'd figure out what I would be wearing the next day, and be all set to go.

In this day and age, it's YOU looking for an employer, not the other way around. So I suggest you get on the stick if you want to be hired and make money. No one else is gonna do it for you.

They have to ask you like you just said-"can you come in on.....? They have to give you room so you can decide a good time to come in. They just don't say "i want you to come in at this time only"

They have to ask you like you just said-"can you come in on.....? They have to give you room so you can decide a good time to come in. They just don't say "i want you to come in at this time only"


Solomon it doesn't work like that. If I have 4 interviews set up on monday, I'm not going to work around your schedule, especially if you are looking for a job. Believe, you aren't the only person that they will call and you aren't the only person that they will interview. You have rent, food and other bills to pay. Unemployment insurance does not last long, it will soon run out.

Solomon it doesn't work like that. If I have 4 interviews set up on monday, I'm not going to work around your schedule, especially if you are looking for a job. Believe, you aren't the only person that they will call and you aren't the only person that they will interview. You have rent, food and other bills to pay. Unemployment insurance does not last long, it will soon run out.


Just got 2 more calls for a job today, and no i didn't answet but will call one back in 10 mins. Some jobs I was appying for i wasn't inteterested in because of where it was located so I just wanted to basically see if my resume was sexy enough to get a call back and I see that it is and don't need to make anymore changes. But the lady who just called me said she is available to interview me on Monday or Tuesday so that gives me the time to buy a new shirt, and get a haircut.

well i have a job interview on monday morning at 10am, i started to schedule it for tuesday since i'm not a monday morning fan but I decided to go monday. The interview is very far from my house but the position I'm being interviewed for is located 10 min away from where I live. I actually don't even remember applying for this position which is why I need to keep a list of everything position i apply to.

she did say something interesting, she said the position I'm applying for is not vacant????

No I will do all of that on Sunday, Sunday will be the one day I won't do any type of job search which means it will be doing a lot more on Friday and Saturday. Plus if a employer calls you to set up a interview, they can't expect you to be free the very next day. They have to atleast give you a day or so
because you may already have something planned for the next day like another job interview or a doctor's apt. They normally ask you-"what would be a good time for you to come in?

I am truly amazed at your lack of logic, or maybe I shouldn't be. In New York the most important day for jb hunting is Sunday. That's the day the Times, which has the best want ad section, lists the employers looking for help. That's the day you want to leave your name with as many phone numbers as you can, so maybe you will be the first one called on monday. That's the day you want to put together as many resumes as you can, so they are in the mail first thing monday morning.

Sounds good but what's more important is posting each and every score of the super bowl, as if those interested don't have their TV's on.

You say your short money but are making no effort to secure employment.

Harvey

I am truly amazed at your lack of logic, or maybe I shouldn't be. In New York the most important day for jb hunting is Sunday. That's the day the Times, which has the best want ad section, lists the employers looking for help. That's the day you want to leave your name with as many phone numbers as you can, so maybe you will be the first one called on monday. That's the day you want to put together as many resumes as you can, so they are in the mail first thing monday morning.

Sounds good but what's more important is posting each and every score of the super bowl, as if those interested don't have their TV's on.

You say your short money but are making no effort to secure employment.

Harvey


I have a job interview on Monday Morning

Don't bother calling, Solomon. That's pre-historic thinking. Fax over your cover letter and resume, or if possible, e-mail it. If you have to snail mail it, do that.

Don't bother calling, Solomon. That's pre-historic thinking. Fax over your cover letter and resume, or if possible, e-mail it. If you have to snail mail it, do that.

Many companies only give a phone number as it may go thru to a agency or prefer to hear the voice before seeing the paper. Either way, many ask you to call and if so it's great to be first on the answering machine. Sometimes the first interview sells them.

Harvey

Solomon, with an attitude like yours, you deserve to be unemployed. You obviously are not enthuised, and you are looking for the job you want, instead of a possible paycheck. All I can say is have fun in the poor house. And when you are there, apply for food stamps as well.

Many companies only give a phone number as it may go thru to a agency or prefer to hear the voice before seeing the paper. Either way, many ask you to call and if so it's great to be first on the answering machine. Sometimes the first interview sells them.

Harvey
Get with the times, Harv. Most companies want prospective employees to either e-mail, fax or mail their cover letter and resume. If they like what they see, the person is called in for an interview, and the process starts. I worked in corporate for over 20 years, and never once did I have to call a person. They do the calling. Unless it's for a stock person for a local company, that's how it works with corporate level jobs.

Solomon, with an attitude like yours, you deserve to be unemployed. You obviously are not enthuised, and you are looking for the job you want, instead of a possible paycheck. All I can say is have fun in the poor house. And when you are there, apply for food stamps as well.


Just because I'm unemployed does't mean I'm going to accept anything. I feel I can offer a lot to a organization and don't need to just grab the first job that comes my way.

Just because I'm unemployed does't mean I'm going to accept anything. I feel I can offer a lot to a organization and don't need to just grab the first job that comes my way.

That's why you are in the situation you are in right now. Too much pride. I have worked and knows few people who have went from their degree paying jobs to general manual labor. Why? Because they needed to eat and times were tough. Pride is not going to pay your bills, my brother.

That's why you are in the situation you are in right now. Too much pride. I have worked and knows few people who have went from their degree paying jobs to general manual labor. Why? Because they needed to eat and times were tough. Pride is not going to pay your bills, my brother.


Well I'm in the PRE-unemployment period since my unemployment doesn't officially start until feb 12th.

So having a job interview on feb 2nd means I'm doing pretty good and can't possibly get a job without getting a FULL UNEMPLOYMENT check on feb 26th.

Get with the times, Harv. Most companies want prospective employees to either e-mail, fax or mail their cover letter and resume. If they like what they see, the person is called in for an interview, and the process starts. I worked in corporate for over 20 years, and never once did I have to call a person. They do the calling. Unless it's for a stock person for a local company, that's how it works with corporate level jobs.

I was in sales management for over 20 years and I wanted to hear from a individual before I saw a piece of paper. Anyone can doctor up a resume but your thoughts and ideas are not so easily hidden.

So please don't tell me who coporate America works. Tell me about your experience and don't make it that's who the world operates.

Harvey

I was in sales management for over 20 years and I wanted to hear from a individual before I saw a piece of paper. Anyone can doctor up a resume but your thoughts and ideas are not so easily hidden.

So please don't tell me who coporate America works. Tell me about your experience and don't make it that's who the world operates.

Harvey


That is how it works at my company. We will call you first, ask you a few questions over the phone, if we like what we hear then we'll call you in for an interview.

Don't bother calling, Solomon. That's pre-historic thinking. Fax over your cover letter and resume, or if possible, e-mail it. If you have to snail mail it, do that.

Right on! E-mail if you can. Then your resume & cover ltr get there in a nannosecond. Faxing a minute maybe but that's still fast. And using these methods on a subliminal level suggests efficiency and forward-thinking.

Calling and snail-mail are both much slower.

I was in sales management for over 20 years and I wanted to hear from a individual before I saw a piece of paper. Anyone can doctor up a resume but your thoughts and ideas are not so easily hidden.

So please don't tell me who coporate America works. Tell me about your experience and don't make it that's who the world operates.

Harvey

I have a feeling you worked in a similar role to a district manager, etc. and assume you were out in the field mostly. That's usually how it goes in sales, although more and more they do want a resume, with a follow up call - again, testing your sales abilities, follow up, sell thru, etc.. MOST corporate jobs (which I'm applying for) do want you to email it - or submit your application (usually CV and a cover letter) thru their website or one like Monster or CareerBuilder directly.

Right on! E-mail if you can. Then your resume & cover ltr get there in a nannosecond. Faxing a minute maybe but that's still fast. And using these methods on a subliminal level suggests efficiency and forward-thinking.

Calling and snail-mail are both much slower.
Most large corporations will state in the ad, "No phonecalls please." Human Resources does things on their terms.

I have a feeling you worked in a similar role to a district manager, etc. and assume you were out in the field mostly. That's usually how it goes in sales, although more and more they do want a resume, with a follow up call - again, testing your sales abilities, follow up, sell thru, etc.. MOST corporate jobs (which I'm applying for) do want you to email it - or submit your application (usually CV and a cover letter) thru their website or one like Monster or CareerBuilder directly.
Yeah, that's how it works in sales, not for the guy with the corner window office with the view, lol. If you look under Professional in the paper, they want your resume. In fact, they don't even advertise for the high-level positions, usually. They go through headhunters.

Get with the times, Harv. Most companies want prospective employees to either e-mail, fax or mail their cover letter and resume. If they like what they see, the person is called in for an interview, and the process starts. I worked in corporate for over 20 years, and never once did I have to call a person. They do the calling. Unless it's for a stock person for a local company, that's how it works with corporate level jobs.

That's true, Janice. I've been in the legal profession for over 20 years as either a secretary or paralegal. For 10 years at least (in Chicago, anyway) most law firms looking for people are either leaving just a fax number or an e-mail address on their want ad postings with which to send your cover letter and resume. I've done both believe me!

I wake up this morning at 6am and dressed to impressed for the job interview at 10am and was prepared to travel 2 hours and before I leave out the door I get a call from the employer. The lady left on my voicemail that the woman who was supposed to interiew me didn't make it into the office and was wondering can I come into tomorrow at 10am or 2pm?

Can you believe that? If my lip was bleeding I would have walked out this door and traveled two hours to find out that the lady I was scheduled to interview with wasn't there??? It's no way I can go to the interview now after this kind of unprofessionalism.

What did the lady go to a SB party and didn't get in until 2am? The hell with that job.

Can you believe that? If my lip was bleeding I would have walked out this door and traveled two hours to find out that the lady I was scheduled to interview with wasn't there??? It's no way I can go to the interview now after this kind of unprofessionalism.

What did the lady go to a SB party and didn't get in until 2am? The hell with that job.

I think you should try to reschedule the interview. Sometimes people just can't make it in to work; I know it's annoying that she couldn't be there but I think you do need to take any chance you get, even if it's not exactly what you're looking for.

I think you should try to reschedule the interview. Sometimes people just can't make it in to work; I know it's annoying that she couldn't be there but I think you do need to take any chance you get, even if it's not exactly what you're looking for.


Didn't know that many people watched the Superbowl.

Didn't know that many people watched the Superbowl.

How do you know it was because she watched the Superbowl? Or is this an assumption?

How do you know it was because she watched the Superbowl? Or is this an assumption?


Let's see, the BIGGEST SPORTING EVENT Of the year on a sunday, the next day is monday and well you know the rest.

I'm sitting here, just aghast with this attitude.....you are really unbelievable.
so now another obstacle has been placed in front of you and here you are....."the hell with this job". What else have you got to do for the interview to be rescheduled--do you have other job interviews lined up that day?

:nonono:

Let's see, the BIGGEST SPORTING EVENT Of the year on a sunday, the next day is monday and well you know the rest.

I see your point, but you don't know for sure that that's the reason. She could have had a proper excuse - maybe she wasn't feeling well.

I'm sitting here, just aghast with this attitude.....you are really unbelievable.
so now another obstacle has been placed in front of you and here you are....."the hell with this job". What else have you got to do for the interview to be rescheduled--do you have other job interviews lined up that day?

:nonono:


Well after spending a $100 for a new coat 2 days ago I have no choice but to go in for the new appt. Just reschedule for tomorrow at 2pm. Never again will I schedule a job interview for a monday morning

Well after spending a $100 for a new coat 2 days ago I have no choice but to go in for the new appt. Just reschedule for tomorrow at 2pm. Never again will I schedule a job interview for a monday morning

Don't make the reason your going on the interview be because you spent $100 on a new coat but because you need a job.

Have a positive attitude, not a negative one.

I think you should try to reschedule the interview. Sometimes people just can't make it in to work; I know it's annoying that she couldn't be there but I think you do need to take any chance you get, even if it's not exactly what you're looking for.

Maybe her car broke down or something. Don't be such a fuddy duddy. Just reschedule.

A few years ago I had applied for another job just so I can be closer to home. But when I did go in, I didn't get interviewed but the lady was checking resumes and asking people why they are unavailable some days.

Turns out they didn't want anyone going to school when I applied so I didn't get interviewed. And maybe it's a blessing cause I have a friend who worked there and she hated the place.

Don't make the reason your going on the interview be because you spent $100 on a new coat but because you need a job.

Have a positive attitude, not a negative one.


it's both, i have to get some use out of the coat.

Okay..

For the interview tomorrow...

Just be calm, if she apologizes for not being there, just accept it and let her interview you.

If she doesn't, just act like nothing happened.

Good luck, be cool...

it's both, i have to get some use out of the coat.

lol, you made my day with that one.:D
After reading through seven pages of this thread... I can honestly say you've been through a lot.

Now is your time though.. and I would take Waterston_Fan's advice. If she apologizes... accept graciously... if she doesn't, don't say anything either.
Remember confidence too! Just be yourself, and just be open to learning new things... employers like that.

And I'm sure you'll look smashing in that $100 coat!;)

Things happen, people call in sick, etc. You caught a break by leaving later than usual. I traveled into downtown Boston for an interview once, and the person scheduled to interview had just left the office for some reason. I didn't like it, but I took it in stride. How you handle it will tell your prospective employers how you handle unexpected problems. Good luck Solomon, and give 'em hell.

Things happen, people call in sick, etc. You caught a break by leaving later than usual. I traveled into downtown Boston for an interview once, and the person scheduled to interview had just left the office for some reason. I didn't like it, but I took it in stride. How you handle it will tell your prospective employers how you handle unexpected problems. Good luck Solomon, and give 'em hell.

Listen to the lady Solomon! She knows what she's doing!! :thumbsup: Something probably happened to the gal who was going to interview you. Take it in stride and knock em dead!

I had my one interview last week and there's been a glitch with the recruiter getting to speak with the VP. She has emailed me every day though to keep me posted and today phoned first thing when I was still sleeping. I didn't recognize the phone number but knew I should answer even though I was half asleep. I went from zero to 60 when she introduced herself (woke up quickly). Sure enough, it was for a 2nd interview. And with all the glitches, had I not answered, it would have made her job more difficult and she may not have called back again or could have moved on to someone else.

Then, 30 mins. later, I get another call from another place. They wanted to do a full phone screen right there on the spot. I have to admit, I hummed and hawed at a couple of questions, and apologized. She said "no problem, I've caught you offguard and I appreciate your honesty". Turns out the owner of this company and the recruiter both know the owners of another company I worked for so this could be a great "in" for me.

Moral of the story - always answer and always be ready to fly. Be honest too. This one company received over 500 applications for this position - I'm one of 10 chosen for the pre-screen interview. It's dog eat dog out there right now.

And don't forget to send a thank you note (either by email, or better yet by hand) for all interviews right away. It can make or break you from getting the position.

Oh, it's 12:30!!!

Oh, I forgot, he has to drive two hours home.

Why does he have to have the interview so far though?

Well I just got home 10 mins ago. It was a snowy nasty day, the best day to go to a job interview. Well I found the place way out in the middle of nothing and got there a hour early because of the snow. I was interviewed by her and another woman and I was able to be myself and talk about what I bring to the table. When it was time to ask them question I asked about 6 questions and one of then was-"what companies are you competing with?

After the interview, the other woman said nice meeting you more than once, and then the other lady was helping me put my coat on-lol I had them both laughing during the interview and after and she told me to email her if I have any questions.

Iam about to send my thank you letter by email. So I will just wait and see how things turn out. They did ask when I would be able to start so i don't know if thy ask everyone that or is that something they ask because iam one of the ones being considered for the job.

but I fought my way through the cold and snowy day and now can breath easy-lol

Well I just got home 10 mins ago. It was a snowy nasty day, the best day to go to a job interview. Well I found the place way out in the middle of nothing and got there a hour early because of the snow. I was interviewed by her and another woman and I was able to be myself and talk about what I bring to the table. When it was time to ask them question I asked about 6 questions and one of then was-"what companies are you competing with?

After the interview, the other woman said nice meeting you more than once, and then the other lady was helping me put my coat on-lol I had them both laughing during the interview and after and she told me to email her if I have any questions.

Iam about to send my thank you letter by email. So I will just wait and see how things turn out. They did ask when I would be able to start so i don't know if thy ask everyone that or is that something they ask because iam one of the ones being considered for the job.

but I fought my way through the cold and snowy day and now can breath easy-lol



Sol - I'm VERY proud of you!!

The only thing I would recommend, is in the future, when you ask a question about "who is your competitor" - if you can, research that ahead - see what industry they're in and then google a business list. Then, you can reword it so that it's way more to your advantage, like this:


Sol: "From my research on your industry, I understand that Company XYX and XYZ are competitors of yours. Are there many more? Who would you consider to be your biggest competitor?"

Interviewer's Thought: "Damn, this guy knows his stuff! He's proactive and does his research! No one else was as prepared as this guy - we can't miss hiring him!"


Seriously - it works like you wouldn't believe! That, or when they ask what do you know about our company, if I can, I'll throw them statistics even.

Buy yah - the follow up Thank You note CAN'T be missed. No matter how old fashioned you think it might be - it's an excellent tool too keep your name in their minds. Especially when they're sorting through hundreds of applications.

Well I just got home 10 mins ago. It was a snowy nasty day, the best day to go to a job interview. Well I found the place way out in the middle of nothing and got there a hour early because of the snow. I was interviewed by her and another woman and I was able to be myself and talk about what I bring to the table. When it was time to ask them question I asked about 6 questions and one of then was-"what companies are you competing with?

After the interview, the other woman said nice meeting you more than once, and then the other lady was helping me put my coat on-lol I had them both laughing during the interview and after and she told me to email her if I have any questions.

Iam about to send my thank you letter by email. So I will just wait and see how things turn out. They did ask when I would be able to start so i don't know if thy ask everyone that or is that something they ask because iam one of the ones being considered for the job.

but I fought my way through the cold and snowy day and now can breath easy-lol

Good job!!

It sounds like they really liked you. I don't think they do ask you that unless the might hire you, but don't hold me to it cause I haven't had a job interview in 9 years.. LOL

If you get this job, do you drive 2 hours each day?

Good job!!

It sounds like they really liked you. I don't think they do ask you that unless the might hire you, but don't hold me to it cause I haven't had a job interview in 9 years.. LOL

If you get this job, do you drive 2 hours each day?


I didn't drive, i caught the bus. The job is down the street from my apt but I had to go to headquarters to interview for it.

I didn't drive, i caught the bus. The job is down the street from my apt but I had to go to headquarters to interview for it.

Ah, the bus... I sure wouldn't have blamed you for having to take the bus though as to yesterday.

EDIT: I don't remember you saying you had to take the bus and you had to catch flack for it as to being upset.

Well I just got home 10 mins ago. It was a snowy nasty day, the best day to go to a job interview. Well I found the place way out in the middle of nothing and got there a hour early because of the snow. I was interviewed by her and another woman and I was able to be myself and talk about what I bring to the table. When it was time to ask them question I asked about 6 questions and one of then was-"what companies are you competing with?

After the interview, the other woman said nice meeting you more than once, and then the other lady was helping me put my coat on-lol I had them both laughing during the interview and after and she told me to email her if I have any questions.

Iam about to send my thank you letter by email. So I will just wait and see how things turn out. They did ask when I would be able to start so i don't know if thy ask everyone that or is that something they ask because iam one of the ones being considered for the job.

but I fought my way through the cold and snowy day and now can breath easy-lol

Congrats and best of luck but don't put all your eggs in one basket. A work week consists of 40 hours so don't sit on your duff and wait for a response. Aim for one interview a day, or at least 3 per week. I'm sure it's rough out there and you want to give yourself the best chance to land something.

As said, send a thank you email, stating how impressed you where with what you heard and feel that this is just the opportunity you have looking for. Ask "what is next as you would like to be part of the team"

Sometimes you only have to see one firm to secure employment, other times more than one, so tomorrow, keep looking.

Harvey

Congrats and best of luck but don't put all your eggs in one basket. A work week consists of 40 hours so don't sit on your duff and wait for a response. Aim for one interview a day, or at least 3 per week. I'm sure it's rough out there and you want to give yourself the best chance to land something.

As said, send a thank you email, stating how impressed you where with what you heard and feel that this is just the opportunity you have looking for. Ask "what is next as you would like to be part of the team"

Sometimes you only have to see one firm to secure employment, other times more than one, so tomorrow, keep looking.

Harvey



Yeah Just sent the Thank You Letter 2 mins ago. And yeah, I will continue my job hunt, defintely have to keep myself busy and not put all the eggs into one basket.

Best of luck, to you, Sol! Just keep yourself prepared and if another interview comes your way, think of how sharp and well researched you will be for them!

Best of luck, to you, Sol! Just keep yourself prepared and if another interview comes your way, think of how sharp and well researched you will be for them!


i just hate a interviewer telling about the SEXY PARTS of having the job and it hasn't been offered yet like


I can set my own schedule each week

The building the job is located in is so beautiful

I can work 11am to 7pm once a week.

i just hate a interviewer telling about the SEXY PARTS of having the job and it hasn't been offered yet like


I can set my own schedule each week

The building the job is located in is so beautiful

I can work 11am to 7pm once a week.

Once a week?

So you have already been hired?

Once a week?

So you have already been hired?


No, which is why I was saying I didn't need to know those things yet-lol

I can set my own schedule each week

The building the job is located in is so beautiful

I can work 11am to 7pm once a week.


Damn! Almost sounds like an upscale hooker's position! ;)

Damn! Almost sounds like an upscale hooker's position! ;)

LOL, if I was to get this job i will be proud of myself because all the jobs i had i got from knowing someone. I never in life got a job on my own.

No, which is why I was saying I didn't need to know those things yet-lol

Ah, gotcha. ;)

Keep trying though...

LOL, if I was to get this job i will be proud of myself because all the jobs i had i got from knowing someone. I never in life got a job on my own.

Yeah. It seems the old sayings isn't really true anymore.

Being at one job for a long time doesn't really mean crap anymore.

I don't know if it's still true as to, it's not what you know but who you know.