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leafygreens 01-25-2009, 12:25 PM I don't believe the 2 theories presented in this segment - that it was jellyfish or airline waste. Any other theories on what this might be? Even though people got sick and that's sad, it's funny to hear Farina talk about the "goo."
Mastermind 01-25-2009, 01:46 PM I don't believe the 2 theories presented in this segment - that it was jellyfish or airline waste. Any other theories on what this might be? Even though people got sick and that's sad, it's funny to hear Farina talk about the "goo."
If it was airline waste, there would be a lot more incidents of gelatinous goo. than just this one. :rolleyes:
In fact the biggest clue in this case is that there hasn;t been a similar episode to have occured now or in the past.
My two cents on this is that is some chemical or biological susbstance that was released in the air by accident and people have just been hushing up the incident due to embarassemnt, law suits and/or national security.
It may not even be military in origin. It may be just be a common commercial substance that was released accidently by a "homer simpson" type employee. :D
Todd Mueller 01-25-2009, 03:06 PM My two cents on this is that is some chemical or biological susbstance that was released in the air by accident and people have just been hushing up the incident due to embarassemnt, law suits and/or national security.
It may not even be military in origin. It may be just be a common commercial substance that was released accidently by a "homer simpson" type employee. :D
Yep... I agree mastermind.
As an airline employee, I can tell you it 99.9% wasn't airline waste. Not enough on any one plane to cause that much "goo" plus the waste on airline has a distinct color and odor. Enough on that. ;)
I also believe it was an accidental chemical release/reaction that may likely have been non-military. Remember when they had that gas leak in India and all those people died back in the '80s? That kind of stuff happens more than people know. If a company was negligant in that way I'm sure they wouldn't want to jump right up and admit it.
And as Dennis Miller used to say, "Of course that's just my opinion... and I could be wrong." :happyface
browneyes106 01-26-2009, 02:03 AM If it was airline waste, there would be a lot more incidents of gelatinous goo. than just this one. :rolleyes:
In fact the biggest clue in this case is that there hasn;t been a similar episode to have occured now or in the past.
My two cents on this is that is some chemical or biological susbstance that was released in the air by accident and people have just been hushing up the incident due to embarassemnt, law suits and/or national security.
It may not even be military in origin. It may be just be a common commercial substance that was released accidently by a "homer simpson" type employee. :D
I agree it were airline waster there would be more incidents all over the world. Your theory about a chemical or biological substance is pretty good. There are a lot of Homer Simpson type people working industries. My dad works as an HR manager for a mining company and he has told be stories about some of the dumb employees they have.
leafygreens 01-26-2009, 03:54 PM But it was ALIVE like some sort of amoeba! And how did it get in the sky 6 times??? :confused:
Mastermind 01-27-2009, 11:11 PM But it was ALIVE like some sort of amoeba!
1. Probably bacteria that mixed with the substance when it was in the atmosphere.
2. I won;t rule out that it may be a biological weapon. I don;t believe that
it was released as part of a conspiracy though. It was probably accidental.
3. I'm no microbiologist, but i think there are quite a few mass productsitems that have eukaryotes f (sorry, i flunked bio in high school, watched too much UM on Lifetime, instead of studying!! So I'm sorry if i'm way off on this :D )
Perhaps something used by the medical community?
And how did it get in the sky 6 times???
May be as simple as it falling from a plane or it being expelled via a Bhopal or Chernobyl type emission. Depending on the properties of the substance it probably mixed in with the atmosphere several times over and expelled as rain.
Think of the black rain that occured after the hiroshima explosion and what happens after volcanic erruptions. Ash-rain.
Imagine that what happened at Oakville as Hiroshima at very small level with a different substance errupting into the atmosphere than radioctive ash.
TracyLynnS 01-27-2009, 11:50 PM And I'm wondering how far stuff like that can travel in the air.
What if it was a dry material that was released into the clouds, but eventually mixed with the moisture in the clouds and fell to the ground miles from the initial release point?
Mastermind's mention of Ash Rain made me think of Mt. St. Helens. When it erupted in 1980 the ash eventually travelled all the way to Michigan in just about a week! We actually had a light coating of ash on our cars out here, almost all the way on the other side of the country, 2,000 miles away.
If that goo stuff could travel, you'd have to consider Canada, Mexico, and other states, besides the one where the goo landed, as possible sources of origin.
leafygreens 01-28-2009, 12:09 PM But if that were the case, then why did it only land in Oakville, WA but nowhere else? If it travelled all the way from Canada, surely it would have hit other towns along the way.
Mastermind 01-28-2009, 12:53 PM But if that were the case, then why did it only land in Oakville, WA but nowhere else? If it travelled all the way from Canada, surely it would have hit other towns along the way.
True. But that's assuming the resdidue rained on a populated area or on land. It's possible it did travel to Canada and fell in a forest or unpopulated mountain area. Maybe there are some stories of dead animals like deer that appeared to die for no reason?
It could also have rained at sea in that case no one would have noticed.
Most of the residue could also have simply been absorbed in the atmosphore. where it evaporated.
If that goo stuff could travel, you'd have to consider Canada, Mexico, and other states, besides the one where the goo landed, as possible sources of origin.
That is very true! Oakville area may not even be the source of the substance. It could have been put into the atmosphere miles away from Oakville.
Another idea idea to consider is a hurricane or tornado that may have hit a chemical plant somewhere and took the substance into the atmosphere.
TracyLynnS 01-28-2009, 04:13 PM Now I'm going to throw out an even weirder idea. lol
I could have sworn that on Ripley's Believe It Or Not, (or some similar program) several years ago, they said that that it once rained frogs in the UK.
So of course, everyone was thinking it was a hoax because frogs are kind of heavy to be raining down out of the sky. But then they explained that a storm with heavy winds or a funnel cloud kind of thing had picked up small frogs and carried them up in the air, then dropped them back down one town over or something like that.
Anyone remember hearing this?
Mastermind 01-28-2009, 07:49 PM Now I'm going to throw out an even weirder idea. lol
I could have sworn that on Ripley's Believe It Or Not, (or some similar program) several years ago, they said that that it once rained frogs in the UK.
So of course, everyone was thinking it was a hoax because frogs are kind of heavy to be raining down out of the sky. But then they explained that a storm with heavy winds or a funnel cloud kind of thing had picked up small frogs and carried them up in the air, then dropped them back down one town over or something like that.
Anyone remember hearing this?
Yes, i do remember that. Your right it was not a hoax.
There was also an incident of raining fish that happened somewhere and they believe that it was a case of a wind funnel as well.
TracyLynnS 01-29-2009, 11:10 AM Mastermind, Cool, you remember it too. I'm not as crazy as I thought! lol
Well, could be that this is another possibility in the "mysterious gelatinous goo" problem. Maybe a storm picked up and carried this stuff from wherever it was being stored, used, or experimented with, and dropped it in this location.
I haven't seen this eppy since it was on lifetime, so it's been a few years. Did the goo rain down several times in the same city or different locations? I wonder what the weather patterns and normal wind directions would be...
Did the goo rain down by itself, or did it only come down with a regular rain shower? (Sorry, I know, lots of questions that could easily be answered if spike wasn't withoholding on the Unsolved eppies.)
88keys 01-30-2009, 12:24 AM That episode was on the other day. I believe it rained down on the same town several times. It wasn't with a regular rain shower, either. The locals thought it was rain until it started sticking to their windows and stuff.
cmyweb 01-30-2009, 12:46 AM on a side note...gelatinous goo is now the phrase we use in our house to describe any suspicious substance...like the random generic cheese dip I recently picked up to test for our super bowl festivities...
TracyLynnS 01-30-2009, 12:32 PM That episode was on the other day. I believe it rained down on the same town several times. It wasn't with a regular rain shower, either. The locals thought it was rain until it started sticking to their windows and stuff.
Darn that stupid Spike TV and the crackhead who does their scheduling. I want my UM eppies back so I can remember the details on this kind of stuff...
TracyLynnS 05-13-2009, 02:09 PM Okay, all you Gelatinous Goo lovers, I have another theory.
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Chemtrails.html
What if this goo stuff was a prototype, precurser to the chemtrails being sprayed over cities, 20 years after the goo fiasco? (Chemtrails aren't the ordinary white fluffy vapor seen behind ordinary passenger jets. Chemtrails are usually sprayed by a couple of aircraft, in a pattern, flying lower than passenger planes.)
This pic in particular shows a deliberate pattern of plane trails leaving behind "something" that usually settles over the city for a few hours. (The main site has many, many more pics.)
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Chemtrails/George.html
In the affected areas, people often feel sick within hours of the spraying up until the next day. According to that website, when this material has been tested, it reveals that the substance contains powdered aluminum, barium, pathogens and even dried human blood cells.
That info is what made me think of the gel goo that was making people sick that had been featured on UM. Maybe THEY just didn't have their formula tweaked enough back then. Even now, this stuff sometimes comes down in fine web-like material. (I guess the raining goo was just too obvious.)
Site Quote: Chances are if you see spraying in your area, you will be sick the next day or possibly within hours. You know those times, out of nowhere, you got a sore throat, or felt like you had the flu, or woke up in the morning feeling all stuffed up and achy? I bet if you had looked at the sky the previous day, you'd have seen Chems. The symptoms of "Chem-illness" include sore throat, "flu-like" feeling, diarrhea, itchy eyes, abdominal pain, joint aches and pain, headaches, fatigue and respiratory illnesses; upper respiratory and blood infections, severe asthma attacks, dizziness, inability to 'get a deep breath". People report symptoms lasting for as long as several months.
Just throwing this info out there fwiw.
TracyLynnS 05-13-2009, 02:37 PM http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Chemtrails/Dyn-O-Gel.html
Here's a short quote from this article, linked above, the same site I mentioned in the previous post. It's from 2001. This company specifically puts a powdery substance into the atmosphere where it absorbs moisture and drops to the ground (preferably the ocean) in gelatinous goo form. The company actually hopes to be able to use the product to soak up rain storms before they hit the ground so that important sporting events won't be ruined by bad weather!
Site quote:
Dyn-O-Mat Promises Clear Skies .. New storm-fighting product dissipates clouds.
Dyn-O-Mat, a Florida-based environmental products company, says it successfully tested a formulated polymer substance capable of removing clouds from the sky. Dyn-O-Storm works by absorbing water from the storm and turning it into a gel that drops to the ocean.
On July 16, Dyn-O-Mat CEO Peter Cordani and a team of weather experts loaded 20,000 pounds of the storm-busting product into a C-130 jet at Palm Beach International Airport. During that day's test, team members removed a building thunderstorm completely from the atmosphere, a first-ever feat documented by Doppler radar, the company said. In the future, Dyn-O-Mat says it hopes to muzzle a hurricane.
In their latest experiment, large military aircraft scattered the powder through a storm cloud 1600 meters long and over 4000 meters deep. It took about 4000 kilograms of powder to soak up the moisture from the cloud, making it virtually disappear. "I had calls from a weather tower and even from Channel 5 news in Miami, saying that they had seen the cloud literally disappear off the radar screen. They confirmed that there had been a tall build-up and the next moment it was gone," Cordani says.
leafygreens 05-14-2009, 12:23 PM What I want to know is HOW human blood cells get into this mess?
TracyLynnS 05-14-2009, 12:55 PM Found this site. They even have a whole page dedicated to the "goo" segment on UM. (Now I need to actually go and read it.)
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/unsolved.shtml
TracyLynnS 05-14-2009, 01:06 PM Here is the text from the UM site. It's similar to the text of the chemtrailcentral site, with a few minor differences.
http://www.unsolved.com/ajaxfiles/sci_the_blob.htm
The Blob
A strange clear goo falls on the town of Oakville, Washington.
Oakville, Washington. Population: 723. Clouds fill the sky here daily, bringing rain on average of 149 days a year. So when it began pouring on the morning of August 7, 1994, no one was really concerned, until they realized it wasn't raining rain. It was raining tiny blobs of gelatinous goo. It came down in torrents, covering 20 square miles. And it made people sick, including Maurice Gobeil:
“I got sick, my wife got sick, my daughter, everybody that lived here got sick.”
Beverly Roberts:
“Everybody in the whole town came down with, like, a flu, only it was a really hard flu. It didn't last, like, 7 days. It lasted 7 weeks, 2 or 3 months.”
Officer David Lacey was on patrol with a civilian friend at 3:00 AM when the downpour began:
“We turned our windshield wipers on and it just started smearing to the point where we could almost not see. And we both looked at each other and we said, ‘Jeez, this isn't right.’ I mean, we're out in the middle of nowhere, basically, and where did this come from?”
Officer Lacey pulled into a gas station to de-goo his windshield. As an added precaution, he put on a pair of latex gloves:
“The substance was very mushy. It's almost like if you had Jell-O in your hand and you could pretty much squish it through your fingers. We did have some bells go off in our heads that basically said that this isn't right, this isn't normal.”
Local resident Dotty Hearn was equally puzzled. By the time she stepped outside that morning, the storm had ended but the blobs were everywhere:
“It looked like hail laying on top of the wood box and everywhere else. So I just went over, and I touched it, and it wasn't hail. It was a gelatinous-like material.”
That afternoon, Officer Lacey suddenly became ill:
“I was to the point where I could hardly breathe. I started to put it together that, possibly, whatever the substance was, it made me violently sick like I never had been before, to the point where it just totally shut me down.”
Across town, Dotty Hearn was sick also:
“I started feeling dizzy. Everything started moving around and around, and it got worse, and, as it did, I became increasingly nauseated.”
An hour later, Dotty's daughter and son found her sprawled on the bathroom floor.
Sunny Barclift is Dotty’s daughter:
“She was cold, drenched with perspiration. My mom had been vomiting. She had extreme vertigo. She complained that she had difficulty with her vision, her vision was blurring.”
Dotty spent the next three days in the hospital. The diagnosis: a severe inner ear infection. But Dotty’s daughter had a different idea:
“For some reason, as we were going out the door, I remembered the substance and I wondered if perhaps it might have had some sort of an effect on her, if it might have made her sick. So I opted, at that moment, to take a sample of this gelatinous material to the hospital.”
A lab technician found a startling clue. The substance contained human white blood cells. But exactly what it was and why it fell from the sky could not be determined. The goo was immediately sent to the Washington State Department of Health. It was examined by microbiologist Mike McDowell:
“It was very uniform. There was no structure that we could see visibly or with a microscope. I set it up on various microbiological media and attempted to isolate bacteria.”
Mike McDowell discovered that the sample was full of two species of bacteria, one of which makes its home in the human digestive system. Sunny Barclift wondered if it was human waste dropped from an airliner:
“The FAA ruled that out, because under the regulations, human waste is dyed blue. The substance was not blue. It was crystal-clear in color.”
The blobs rained down on Oakville six times over a three-week period. Dozens of people got sick. Several dogs and cats died after coming in contact with it. Nearly a year after Dotty Hearn's illness, she took a sample of the material she had stored in her freezer to a private research lab. Tim Davis is a microbiologist with Amtest Laboratories:
“I saw what I think was a eukaryotic cell, which is, basically, a cell that has a definable nucleus, and is found present in most animals.”
Translation: the goo was alive. But where did it come from? Sunny Barclift recounted one theory she heard:
“Someone theorized that since the navy had been conducting live bombing runs at sea, they might have blown up a school of jellyfish. And, of course, this jellyfish would have been thrown up into the air and floated 50 miles inland and, over a period of 3 weeks, fallen 6 times. I find that somewhat preposterous.”
The Air Force confirmed that practice bombing runs were being conducted over the Pacific. However, they denied any knowledge of the unknown substance or any involvement in creating or dispersing it. But some locals were not reassured. Sunny Barclift:
“We had a significant amount of military aircraft flying over the home prior to this happening.”
Dotty Hearn:
“Every day almost, we had slow flying bombers, helicopters, all black in color, and we kind of thought maybe it might've come from them.”
Maurice Gobeil:
“They let off things in the air all the time here. There's testing done all over the place. There are a lot of places you can't go into.”
Beverly Roberts:
“Maybe we were a biological experiment of some kind, a small one, maybe just to get people a little bit sick to find out, say, if an enemy did come over here with a biological bomb or something and dropped it, maybe it was just a test run to see how, what would happen.”
Today it's impossible to say what the goo was or where it came from because all the evidence has disappeared. The Washington Department of Health says it can find no record of what happened to the samples it received.
Apostapler 05-15-2009, 12:15 AM This is a very interesting and plausible theory! I mean, who would question chem trails? I see them all the time over the wide skies of Indiana. It's just a shame there are no more samples of the goo to test against the theory.
TracyLynnS 05-15-2009, 11:52 AM Yesterday, I even went looking for chemtrail debunkers. I wanted to get as many opinions as I could on this thing. Even the debunkers agree that chemtrails exist, and that planes spray stuff into the atmosphere to "seed" clouds, etc.
The only thing that the debunkers say doesn't exist is what the extreme chemtrail conspiracy theorists believe, which is that all commercial jets are outfitted with special spray nozzles on the wings and that they are spraying us with every flight, and that every condensation trail seen behind commercial jets is really a chemtrail.
When looking up chemtrail info, I did not find any chemtrail conspiracy theorists who believed that. (I just found a couple anonymous letters on the site I link earlier that sound fishy.) What's really happening is that people are talking about lower flying aircraft, sometimes in flying in pairs, that spray an area in a gridlike pattern, with an unknown substance. This isn't a one time event, but happens frequently enough that some places are considered "chemtrail hotspots".
(Sacramento is one them, Corky! You better get yourself a tinfoil hat! lol)
Since this city was "sprayed" 6 times back in 1994, I think it's possible that they were the subjects of early chem experiments.
TracyLynnS 05-15-2009, 12:05 PM Oh yeah, and this more recently tested stuff contains barium and aluminum.
Companies admit to putting that in their fuel, I've forgotten the reason, maybe removing impurities?
They are also releasing a form of aluminum into the air. Some reasons suggested by the chemtrailers are that the metal helps conduct radio waves, it helps against global warming, etc.
Oh, and never mind what I said a minute ago about not running into any extreme chemtrail conspiracy theorists. I just found this guy's site. He's even managed to work the WTC attacks into this thing!
http://www.bariumblues.com/
On that site, one series of photos shows an early morning overcast sky, and then "mysteriously" the clouds dissipate by noon. Um, yeah, once the sun is overhead and starts to burn off the cloud vapor.
Really, if they can get rid of cloudy days, can they do something about michigan. We are the third cloudiest state. Even alaska has more sunny days than us.
leafygreens 05-21-2009, 03:39 PM Dotty Hearn:
“Every day almost, we had slow flying bombers, helicopters, all black in color, and we kind of thought maybe it might've come from them.”
Well those always seem to surface whenever some government conspiracy is afoot. :crazy:
TracyLynnS 09-24-2009, 12:36 PM Hey Zack, I'm popping this thread back up for ya. In the thread you started about the goo in WA, I had mentioned that I had more detailed comments in this thread. Hope it's helpful to you. :)
leafygreens 09-18-2011, 11:27 AM Bump. Any more news on this chemtrail theory?
Reverend Jim 09-18-2011, 03:04 PM http://i54.tinypic.com/2s7x9pf.jpg
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TheCars1986 09-19-2011, 06:40 PM I've always assumed the goo came from some chemical company (or possibly the military) that accidentally dropped it on this town when they were transporting it through the air. And I think it was hushed because it would have been an embarassment to openly admit this, not to mention they'd probably be facing several lawsuits.
Gelatinous Goo 09-20-2011, 12:59 AM It was an obvious government coverup.
On a positive note, however, we were fortunate enough to hear the funniest word ever uttered by RS: "Goooo". Smoke another Chesterfield, Bob!
TheCars1986 09-20-2011, 10:00 AM It was an obvious government coverup.
On a positive note, however, we were fortunate enough to hear the funniest word ever uttered by RS: "Goooo". Smoke another Chesterfield, Bob!
My vote for favorite RS word utterance: "poo pooed".
Gelatinous Goo 09-20-2011, 11:38 AM It certainly ranks up there. It shares the same run-on "ooo" sound with goo.
scc1222 09-20-2011, 03:33 PM since it occured at regular intervals,it does indeed make me think the gov't was testing out a biological weapon on it's own citizens.
recall the lady who got radiation sickness from the runaway "UFO" ie- secret weapon,and then the gov't denied it all? they do have weapons they don't speak of out there.
JannTosh 09-20-2011, 04:55 PM The goo was from the aliens dumping the remains of their human victims to Earth
scc1222 09-20-2011, 09:50 PM The goo was from the aliens dumping the remains of their human victims to Earth
rofl ! ;)
eximius_apparata 09-05-2012, 10:58 PM hi! :) i'm new here. i just happened to have watched this particular segment, and wanted to chime in with my two cents.
i recall seeing this episode many years ago and being baffled by it. but now, after having worked as a science teacher and conducting many fun experiments with students using this substance, i feel very strongly that this is what they found.
i quickly came to this conclusion due to several things in the segment:
1.) "it looked like hail". sodium polyacrylate is usually clear, or at least opaque (especially when there is a lot of it in a mass). if you go to websites that sell "science toys", you will usually find it advertised as "fake snow" for this reason, and because of the fact that it tends to remain cold after absorbing a cold substance.
2.) "goo". this substance is indeed very "gooey", and if it were to cover a windshield, the wipers would only break down the polymer rather than effectively wipe it away (rather like smashed jello), making it smear.
3.) "people came down with the flu". people tend to think that the "flu" includes episodes of vomiting. it (almost always-excluding a co-occurring gastrointestinal upset-) doesn't. the flu usually consists of chills, fever and muscle aches. however-ingestion of sodium polyacrylate will irritate the mucous membranes-leading to vomiting. my guess is, people tasted the "goo" thinking that it was hail (or at least water-based) and promptly threw up. the dead animals? simply ate too much of it.
this would also potentially explain how 4.) "the sample was literally teeming with two species of bacteria, one of which makes its home in the human digestive system". possibly the sample send to the two labs was taken from some contaminated with someone's vomit?
5.) "the substance contained human white blood cells". this happened during what i can only assume to have been a season during which people were likely already sick. my guess is, the sample was contaminated with sputum or mucous from a sick person, and didn't necessarily have anything to do with the substance itself.
however, i find this factor confusing: 6.) "there was no structure that we could see visibly or with a microscope". that seems impossible, independent of what the substance is (i.e., polymers have distinct structures)... unless, of course, the lab technician is either a.) unaccustomed to seeing the substance with or without the use of a 'scope; or b.) was simply looking for "biological" cells, and not a polymer.
7.) "it rained over the town for several days". without surmising how it reached the town, i hypothesize that the substance did not continually "rain down". sodium polyacrylate is also known as "waterlock"- meaning that it is able to "absorb as much as 200 to 300 times its mass in water". when it is dry, it tends to look like faint white or opaque flakes (when in very large amounts). when wet however, the tiny flakes "plump up" and can seem to appear from nowhere, if the amounts are relatively small. thus, on the first day that the "goo" appeared, much of it was cleaned up (by street sweepers or something) and likely dumped into sewers or were left out to dry. later, when it rained again, the flakes absorbed water and again appeared to have "come down from the sky" with the rain, whereas they were already present all over the ground but were difficult to see when dry. (p.s.: sodium polyacrylate is HELL to get out of drains. it doesn't break down easily at all, and it is absurdly difficult to remove all of it from drainage systems).
8.) "there were eukaryotes present in the samples". this to me seems simple; the eukaryotic cells were simply present in the soil the samples were scooped up from. eukaryotes are just complex cells-they aren't mysterious or difficult to find. more than likely, the fact that they were coincidentally found with the "goo" is what made their presence seem odd.
how did it get there? i have no clue. sodium polyacrylate is the main component of "water crystals", which are used by some gardners to maintain soil moisture because of its ability to hold water so well. i've had students grow onion plants in sand mixed with water crystals. maybe somebody dumped too much of it in a garden and the stuff spread all over the place when it rained (it is profoundly slippery when wet). who knows? there's a million different ways it could have gotten there- it just doesn't seem all that mysterious to me.
(p.p.s: thanks for reading my "novella". i :heart: the UM forum!)
MegtheEgg86 09-05-2012, 11:08 PM hi! :) i'm new here. i just happened to have watched this particular segment, and wanted to chime in with my two cents.
i recall seeing this episode many years ago and being baffled by it. but now, after having worked as a science teacher and conducting many fun experiments with students using this substance, i feel very strongly that this is what they found.
i quickly came to this conclusion due to several things in the segment:
1.) "it looked like hail". sodium polyacrylate is usually clear, or at least opaque (especially when there is a lot of it in a mass). if you go to websites that sell "science toys", you will usually find it advertised as "fake snow" for this reason, and because of the fact that it tends to remain cold after absorbing a cold substance.
2.) "goo". this substance is indeed very "gooey", and if it were to cover a windshield, the wipers would only break down the polymer rather than effectively wipe it away (rather like smashed jello), making it smear.
3.) "people came down with the flu". people tend to think that the "flu" includes episodes of vomiting. it (almost always-excluding a co-occurring gastrointestinal upset-) doesn't. the flu usually consists of chills, fever and muscle aches. however-ingestion of sodium polyacrylate will irritate the mucous membranes-leading to vomiting. my guess is, people tasted the "goo" thinking that it was hail (or at least water-based) and promptly threw up. the dead animals? simply ate too much of it.
this would also potentially explain how 4.) "the sample was literally teeming with two species of bacteria, one of which makes its home in the human digestive system". possibly the sample send to the two labs was taken from some contaminated with someone's vomit?
5.) "the substance contained human white blood cells". this happened during what i can only assume to have been a season during which people were likely already sick. my guess is, the sample was contaminated with sputum or mucous from a sick person, and didn't necessarily have anything to do with the substance itself.
however, i find this factor confusing: 6.) "there was no structure that we could see visibly or with a microscope". that seems impossible, independent of what the substance is (i.e., polymers have distinct structures)... unless, of course, the lab technician is either a.) unaccustomed to seeing the substance with or without the use of a 'scope; or b.) was simply looking for "biological" cells, and not a polymer.
7.) "it rained over the town for several days". without surmising how it reached the town, i hypothesize that the substance did not continually "rain down". sodium polyacrylate is also known as "waterlock"- meaning that it is able to "absorb as much as 200 to 300 times its mass in water". when it is dry, it tends to look like faint white or opaque flakes (when in very large amounts). when wet however, the tiny flakes "plump up" and can seem to appear from nowhere, if the amounts are relatively small. thus, on the first day that the "goo" appeared, much of it was cleaned up (by street sweepers or something) and likely dumped into sewers or were left out to dry. later, when it rained again, the flakes absorbed water and again appeared to have "come down from the sky" with the rain, whereas they were already present all over the ground but were difficult to see when dry. (p.s.: sodium polyacrylate is HELL to get out of drains. it doesn't break down easily at all, and it is absurdly difficult to remove all of it from drainage systems).
8.) "there were eukaryotes present in the samples". this to me seems simple; the eukaryotic cells were simply present in the soil the samples were scooped up from. eukaryotes are just complex cells-they aren't mysterious or difficult to find. more than likely, the fact that they were coincidentally found with the "goo" is what made their presence seem odd.
how did it get there? i have no clue. sodium polyacrylate is the main component of "water crystals", which are used by some gardners to maintain soil moisture because of its ability to hold water so well. i've had students grow onion plants in sand mixed with water crystals. maybe somebody dumped too much of it in a garden and the stuff spread all over the place when it rained (it is profoundly slippery when wet). who knows? there's a million different ways it could have gotten there- it just doesn't seem all that mysterious to me.
(p.p.s: thanks for reading my "novella". i :heart: the UM forum!)
Thanks for the post and sharing your ideas and expertise. Kind of makes me want to go find a lab, haha.
Necco 09-06-2012, 02:06 PM Gelatinous Goo would make a fantastic band name.
eximius_apparata 09-06-2012, 02:13 PM thank you megtheegg! i love how shows like this give average joes like me the opportunities to feel like a smarty-pants on occasion.
soilentgreen 09-06-2012, 02:27 PM Great post, eximius apparata...
scc1222 09-07-2012, 05:00 AM Since it was released 6x in regular fashion,I have to say I think it likely was the gov't doing an experiment.
That said,I don't necessarily think the lady with the ear infection who had to be hospitalized was definitely sick from the goo.Nor the policeman who got sick.There could have just been something going around at the time.I think it was winter anyway? And ppl do just get sick,esp. with ear infections and things.
Other than that,idk.But...I can't believe there are NO samples of it left...there must be some,somewhere!
And since there was E. Coli in it,it seems to me it was manmade,esp. as a bio weapon of some sort.JMO.
Oh,and ppl don't get ear infections from e.coli...they get much,much sicker than that! It isn't the same germ that causes it.
scc1222 09-07-2012, 05:05 AM Gelatinous Goo would make a fantastic band name.
would make a cool toy or a brand of jello as well :)
scc1222 09-07-2012, 05:23 AM hi! :) i'm new here. i just happened to have watched this particular segment, and wanted to chime in with my two cents.
i recall seeing this episode many years ago and being baffled by it. but now, after having worked as a science teacher and conducting many fun experiments with students using this substance, i feel very strongly that this is what they found.
i quickly came to this conclusion due to several things in the segment:
1.) "it looked like hail". sodium polyacrylate is usually clear, or at least opaque (especially when there is a lot of it in a mass). if you go to websites that sell "science toys", you will usually find it advertised as "fake snow" for this reason, and because of the fact that it tends to remain cold after absorbing a cold substance.
2.) "goo". this substance is indeed very "gooey", and if it were to cover a windshield, the wipers would only break down the polymer rather than effectively wipe it away (rather like smashed jello), making it smear.
3.) "people came down with the flu". people tend to think that the "flu" includes episodes of vomiting. it (almost always-excluding a co-occurring gastrointestinal upset-) doesn't. the flu usually consists of chills, fever and muscle aches. however-ingestion of sodium polyacrylate will irritate the mucous membranes-leading to vomiting. my guess is, people tasted the "goo" thinking that it was hail (or at least water-based) and promptly threw up. the dead animals? simply ate too much of it.
this would also potentially explain how 4.) "the sample was literally teeming with two species of bacteria, one of which makes its home in the human digestive system". possibly the sample send to the two labs was taken from some contaminated with someone's vomit?
5.) "the substance contained human white blood cells". this happened during what i can only assume to have been a season during which people were likely already sick. my guess is, the sample was contaminated with sputum or mucous from a sick person, and didn't necessarily have anything to do with the substance itself.
however, i find this factor confusing: 6.) "there was no structure that we could see visibly or with a microscope". that seems impossible, independent of what the substance is (i.e., polymers have distinct structures)... unless, of course, the lab technician is either a.) unaccustomed to seeing the substance with or without the use of a 'scope; or b.) was simply looking for "biological" cells, and not a polymer.
7.) "it rained over the town for several days". without surmising how it reached the town, i hypothesize that the substance did not continually "rain down". sodium polyacrylate is also known as "waterlock"- meaning that it is able to "absorb as much as 200 to 300 times its mass in water". when it is dry, it tends to look like faint white or opaque flakes (when in very large amounts). when wet however, the tiny flakes "plump up" and can seem to appear from nowhere, if the amounts are relatively small. thus, on the first day that the "goo" appeared, much of it was cleaned up (by street sweepers or something) and likely dumped into sewers or were left out to dry. later, when it rained again, the flakes absorbed water and again appeared to have "come down from the sky" with the rain, whereas they were already present all over the ground but were difficult to see when dry. (p.s.: sodium polyacrylate is HELL to get out of drains. it doesn't break down easily at all, and it is absurdly difficult to remove all of it from drainage systems).
8.) "there were eukaryotes present in the samples". this to me seems simple; the eukaryotic cells were simply present in the soil the samples were scooped up from. eukaryotes are just complex cells-they aren't mysterious or difficult to find. more than likely, the fact that they were coincidentally found with the "goo" is what made their presence seem odd.
how did it get there? i have no clue. sodium polyacrylate is the main component of "water crystals", which are used by some gardners to maintain soil moisture because of its ability to hold water so well. i've had students grow onion plants in sand mixed with water crystals. maybe somebody dumped too much of it in a garden and the stuff spread all over the place when it rained (it is profoundly slippery when wet). who knows? there's a million different ways it could have gotten there- it just doesn't seem all that mysterious to me.
(p.p.s: thanks for reading my "novella". i :heart: the UM forum!)
But the polyacrylate would still have a distinct outline.that's what POLY means.it forms a shape.
SO even if you weren't looking for it under a microscope,it would still be easily recognizible,even to a lay person.It would be there.
I can't see a microbiologist looking under a scope and thinking..'I'll just ignore all these distinct shapes and try to find some human cells'.Doesn't make sense.
I'm not sure that would have so easily been absorbed back into the atmosphere so readily,either,the way just plain water does.it seems to me those little bags of heavy water would likely carry more weight and would be more difficult to just absorb back into the air.
This was also a clear substance...vomit wouldn't just be clear,and would likely be contaminted with gastic acid (which is YELLOW) and or food.
E. Coli LIVES IN THE INTESTINES...YOU CAN'T VOMIT THAT.There is a one-way valve there that prevents that.You can only vomit stomach contents,not intestinal contents.E. Coli doesn't live in sputum,either.
And if it were from the intestines,well,that would be discolored and would...smell to high heaven! But it wouldn't just be clear,colorless,odorless,etc.
just my .02 worth.
pardilia 09-07-2012, 09:55 AM E. Coli LIVES IN THE INTESTINES...YOU CAN'T VOMIT THAT.There is a one-way valve there that prevents that.You can only vomit stomach contents,not intestinal contents.E. Coli doesn't live in sputum,either.
And if it were from the intestines,well,that would be discolored and would...smell to high heaven! But it wouldn't just be clear,colorless,odorless,etc.
just my .02 worth.
There are lots of different types of E. Coli and it's totally plausible to me that UM would be told it's a specific type but would run with the "it lives in the intestines" bit because it's more mysterious.
I've always thought that this was one of those segments that probably wasn't unsolved any longer but if they updated it would lose the spooky factor.
scc1222 09-07-2012, 05:41 PM There are lots of different types of E. Coli and it's totally plausible to me that UM would be told it's a specific type but would run with the "it lives in the intestines" bit because it's more mysterious.
I've always thought that this was one of those segments that probably wasn't unsolved any longer but if they updated it would lose the spooky factor.
I think strains of e. coli always live in the intestines,that's where the coli=colon comes from.
agree though,they could update and or include more info in some of these segments to show they may not be as mysterious as once thought.
But the sodium polymer/fake snow being talked about here is,if i'm not mistaken,the same type of material used in baby diapers.that gets pretty heavy when it gets wet.open a wet one and put it outside and see if it gets absorbed back into the atmosphere anytime soon..doesn't happen.
eximius_apparata 09-19-2012, 01:16 AM But the polyacrylate would still have a distinct outline.that's what POLY means.it forms a shape.
SO even if you weren't looking for it under a microscope,it would still be easily recognizible,even to a lay person.It would be there.
I can't see a microbiologist looking under a scope and thinking..'I'll just ignore all these distinct shapes and try to find some human cells'.Doesn't make sense.
i agree that the sodium polyacrylate (SP) would have a distinct shape. that is indeed a a recognizable attribute of polymers. incidentally, POLY means "many"; thus the poly in polyacrylate refers to the fact that it is a molecule made up of repeating units. in the same vein, i find it strange that the substance would "contain white blood cells" AND be "teeming with two types of bacteria" whilst the initial microbiologist was otherwise unable to find "[any] structure" in the samples, as both bacteria and white blood cells have a distinct, obvious appearance, even when viewed with low-power microscopes.
I'm not sure that would have so easily been absorbed back into the atmosphere so readily,either,the way just plain water does.it seems to me those little bags of heavy water would likely carry more weight and would be more difficult to just absorb back into the air.
i also agree that the substance wouldn't be absorbed into the atmosphere. i really wouldn't have to: SP, when dry, is small and granular. it would only appear to be "little bags of water" when wet (and even then, it's really more of a slush). speaking from experience, SP looks a bit like soft white laundry detergent when dry. does that mean people wouldn't detect it if it were scattered about sidewalks and in gutters? i can't say for sure, but perhaps.
E. Coli LIVES IN THE INTESTINES...YOU CAN'T VOMIT THAT.There is a one-way valve there that prevents that.You can only vomit stomach contents,not intestinal contents.E. Coli doesn't live in sputum,either.
And if it were from the intestines,well,that would be discolored and would...smell to high heaven! But it wouldn't just be clear,colorless,odorless,etc.
this might be an oversight on my part, but i don't actually recall the specific mention of E. coli. there are actually quite a few different types of bacteria (and other microbes) that make up gut flora. if E. coli had been present; you are right, it would have smelled somewhat like faeces. i would also think that someone would have mentioned the distinctly unpleasant smell... which you yourself noted was not present in the samples taken of the substance.
scc1222 09-19-2012, 06:28 AM this might be an oversight on my part, but i don't actually recall the specific mention of E. coli. there are actually quite a few different types of bacteria (and other microbes) that make up gut flora. if E. coli had been present; you are right, it would have smelled somewhat like faeces. i would also think that someone would have mentioned the distinctly unpleasant smell... which you yourself noted was not present in the samples taken of the substance.
I think you're right.my mistake.I think what UM said was the sample was "teaming with bacteria,one of which makes it's home in the human digestive system".I was assuming it was e. coli.
And you're right as well about the meaning of 'poly'..it does form a shape,but it means 'many'.
So,here we have a clear substance,no apparent form other than the cells found in it...I'd say it was a manufactured substance from lab.that's just a guess though,as it seemingly isn't from inside the body,or it wouldn't be colorless and odorless.The colorless goo/gel it was in was just the carrier for the cells.
The purpose? Likely as a test,just as the ppl in the segment suggested.The fact that it was done 6x in regular fashion, over a period of time suggests just that.JMO though.If anyone has any other ideas,please post. :)
thanks for the feedback :)
JannTosh 02-08-2014, 12:03 AM I was watching the 1988 The Blob remake and in that movie The Blob was a germ warfare test subject that fell to Earth. I immediately thought of UM Lol
TracyLynnS 08-25-2014, 07:57 PM Completely unrelated to the Oakville Blobs / Gelatinous Goo.... but
While reading the "news" today, I came across an article that reminded me of it. A woman in Australia found this disgusting looking thing washed up on the beach, had no idea what it was, and then proceeded to take it home and put it in a bucket!
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/25/article-2733489-20C55BD300000578-480_634x327.jpg
All I could think of was people touching the Goo, not knowing what it was, then getting sick from it.
People commenting on the article think this thing is anything from a placenta to a sea slug. I'm thinking probably sea slug, but what do I know. It's definitely icky looking tho, and I sure wouldn't be poking at it or carrying it home with me! lol
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2733489/Mysterious-unidentified-red-blob-washes-beach-local-woman-wraps-creature-towel-takes-home.html
wiseguy182 08-26-2014, 04:30 AM The Unexplained Files has done numerous segments on mysterious things that fall from the sky, including something called "Alien Blood Rain", drops of mysterious red rain that fell on an area in India I believe.
Janel "Jaycee" Miller 02-07-2015, 07:42 PM Bump.
Something funky is falling from the skies again in parts of the northwest, including Washington State. It's likely not the same thing as what prompted the UM episode, but it's still interesting.
http://www.komonews.com/weather/blogs/scott/Mysterious-dirty-rain-falling-in-Eastern-Washington-Oregon-291091671.html
James T 02-08-2015, 06:58 AM The curse of Papa Shango.
http://i.imgur.com/FjpJ395.gif
Jediknight1823 02-08-2015, 08:09 AM The curse of Papa Shango.
http://i.imgur.com/FjpJ395.gif
There was no mention of black oil coming from their heads, so we can rule out Papa Shango.
Gelatinous Goo 06-26-2020, 08:11 PM I happened to fall down a YouTube rabbit hole of shows hosted by Arthur C. Clarke. Not sure how I never knew of their existence. Some of you will appreciate them, as they can be quite reminiscent of "In Search Of".
I was watching an episode, and what decides to pop in for a cameo but the Goo! Again defying to accept any scientific designation, they are also referred to here as "blobs of goo"! ;)
https://youtu.be/6307dJtsg9A?list=PLpf-o-gGms2AzvlUFaIulsrTZeuyL-6KD&t=942
Latka Gravas 03-24-2021, 10:01 PM Recently saw this Gelatinous Goo segment for the first time (S09, EP06). The whole scenario would have been comical if it wasn't so serious re: people getting sick & animals dying, etc.
I definitely do not see this as being airline waste; as was said, it was the wrong color & consistency, etc. And, the "Jellyfish theory" was ludicrous.
Was this GG some kind of biological substance that was being dropped over the town to "test" people's reactions, etc? I definitely believe this is what it was. Too bad this will never be proved.
JannTosh 04-05-2024, 02:54 PM A new show on Netflix has done an episode on this. I hope to finally get some more info on what the hell this stuff was
leafygreens 04-06-2024, 10:11 AM A new show on Netflix has done an episode on this. I hope to finally get some more info on what the hell this stuff was
What is the name of the show?
JannTosh 04-09-2024, 07:11 AM What is the name of the show?
It is called Tales of the Unexplained
Fletch 09-23-2025, 12:37 AM Looks like the blob or something like it returned in May of this year:
https://www.kuow.org/stories/return-of-the-blobs-sw-washington-revisited-by-decades-old-gooey-mystery
Gelatinous Goo 09-23-2025, 06:42 AM Clearly, the most pressing question on everyone's mind: Did anyone have to de-goo their windshield?
tvscript124 10-12-2025, 06:17 PM I am still mystified about the origin of the gelatinous goo. Government lab leak? Chemtrails? Something else?
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