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MusicJunkie
10-15-2008, 04:01 AM
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_an...icle4945979.ece (http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/celebrity/article4945979.ece)


Madonna and Guy Ritchie 'about to confirm divorce'
(Ian West/PA Wire)
Madonna turned up to support Guy Ritchie at last month's premiere of his latest film
Chris Smyth
Madonna and Guy Ritchie are planning to divorce, it was reported late last night.

The Sun newspaper claimed that the couple were preparing to announce the split because “they can’t bear to live with the pretence any longer”.

A spokeswoman for Madonna declined to comment but the paper claimed that a statement would be made public imminently. A “highly-placed” but unnamed source quoted by the paper said that the pair “can now barely bring themselves to say two words to each other”.

The source added: “Despite huge attempts to patch things up they both knew deep down that divorce was on the cards. It wasn’t a matter of ‘if’ but ‘when’.” It was also claimed that the couple had not spoken face to face for three weeks.

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Rumours of marital difficulties have dogged the singer and her film director husband for about a year. In July the wife of baseball’s highest paid star, Alex Rodriguez, filed for divorce, blaming Madonna for the collapse of the marriage. Madonna, 50, denied any ro- mantic involvement with Rodriguez.

Madonna and Ritchie have previously strongly denied reports that they were to split and said that there were “no plans” to divorce. Last month they presented a united front at the premiere in London of Mr Ritchie’s film RocknRolla and Mr Ritchie’s 40th birthday party. The couple have children, Rocco, 8, and David Banda, who was adapted as a baby from Malawi, 2. Madonna has a daughter, Lourdes, 12, from her relationship with the dancer Carlos Leon. They married in 2000

MusicJunkie
10-15-2008, 04:02 AM
personally, I am taking all of this with a grain of salt until there's official confirmation. It seems like they were splitting a few months ago, plus she's busy in the middle of a tour right now. But considering she's been spending more and more time in New York after devoting the last several years in the UK with Guy, it makes you wonder if it's true this time.

Janice
10-15-2008, 04:31 AM
Yeah, I've been hearing rumblings about this for awhile now. I hope it's not true, as they're a solid family. I didn't know that Madonna was 10 years older than Guy.

MusicJunkie
10-15-2008, 05:56 AM
looks like it's been confirmed in the UK. There's pages about it already over on the Madonna message board I read. Ironically, most fans seem to be happy for this because they feel like she became "boring" when she married him and it was when all the British stuff began, since they see ditching Guy equalling her coming back to the states full time. Not just that, a lot of people are cheering on the fact that her next album will be better since her two best-received albums to date by the fans were the ones she recorded after her divorce from Sean Penn (Like A Prayer) and after she gave birth to her daughter (Ray Of Light).

I personally never cared for Guy at all and it looks like a lot of her fans don't, but I do feel horrible for the children. Divorce always hits kids the hardest, and even tho they aren't your average kids in the sense that their mom is one of the richest entertainers on the planet and can receive anything they want, it still doesn't mean that they're hurting any less that their parents are splitting.

Scoobiedoo30
10-15-2008, 11:19 AM
I just got the word from MSNBC

sunshinefizzy
10-15-2008, 01:04 PM
People confirmed it. That's a shame, I thought they were good together. Couples just grow apart I guess.

Scoobiedoo30
10-15-2008, 01:15 PM
You should have seen my face when I heard the news on MSNBC about Madonna and guy Breaking up.

TripperFan
10-15-2008, 01:30 PM
You should have seen my face when I heard the news on MSNBC about Madonna and guy Breaking up.


Did the news surprise you Aaron?

By the way - I just noticed you hit 21,000 posts with that last one - congratuations!!!

Scoobiedoo30
10-15-2008, 01:40 PM
yes The news Surprise me because I really Throught they would be married forever.

TripperFan
10-15-2008, 01:42 PM
yes The news Surprise me because I really Throught they would be married forever.


Yah, it's always really sad when any marriage breaks down. Especially when children are involved.

Scoobiedoo30
10-15-2008, 01:50 PM
I hope for the kids sake they can get along.

catlover79
10-15-2008, 01:54 PM
Yah, it's always really sad when any marriage breaks down. Especially when children are involved.
That's true. She did last twice as long with him (8 years) than she did with Sean Penn (4 years).

MonarC
10-15-2008, 01:57 PM
How sad. :(

TripperFan
10-15-2008, 02:00 PM
I hope for the kids sake they can get along.


I think they'll be able to Aaron. Madonna is still good friends with Lourdes' father, Carlos, and they've been able to raise her very well I think. I'm sure it will be the same with Guy. At least there's no problem with money so either way, they'll be fine in that regard.

And yes, she was still young and a lot less mature when she married Sean Penn. At least there were no children out of that marriage.

Scoobiedoo30
10-15-2008, 02:00 PM
this is very sad news.

TJL
10-15-2008, 02:05 PM
Well at least Jennifer Aniston will get a break from the being the tabloid poster child for "celebrities who can't find happiness/stay married/keep a man, etc."

When Madonna showed up for her movie premiere here in NYC the other night alone, I thought something was up. I guess her and Guy got tired of pretending to be together for the paps like they did earlier this summer.

I've been looking at a lot of pics of them the last half hour at various red carpet things - did they look happy?

Scoobiedoo30
10-15-2008, 02:20 PM
It good to know that she is friends Lourdes

MusicJunkie
10-15-2008, 02:20 PM
Buzz has been running rampant for over six months on fan boards. I think the catalyst that started it all was when she was inducted into the Hall Of Fame and Guy was nowhere to be seen in the audience, nor was he mentioned once during Madonna's lengthy acceptance speech. Plus, if you listen to "Miles Away" and "Voices" off her latest album, the writing was on the wall.

I think it shows how she can still manipulate the media. Back in June, everyone was ready for a breakup announcement and they both denied it, and then now it came out of nowhere when people had pretty much dismissed the idea they were splitting.

Scoobiedoo30
10-15-2008, 02:30 PM
Good Luck Madonna and guy.

coffield3
10-15-2008, 02:32 PM
Yes, it is true. I never saw it lasting :lol:

dawsongirl
10-15-2008, 05:10 PM
Why didn't they just come right out and say it months ago? All this leading on crap does no one any good.

MusicJunkie
10-15-2008, 05:16 PM
Why didn't they just come right out and say it months ago? All this leading on crap does no one any good.
The fan speculation (granted, nobody there knows here) is that Guy and her agreed to publically stay together until Guy released the Rock'n'rolla movie because Madonna's presence at the movie premieres always draw a lot of attention to his work. Madonna and Guy are both businesspeople and Madonna especially has worked so hard in her career that they probably wanted to wait until it wouldn't hurt to do this instead of having the divorce overshadow the release of a movie (in Guy's case) and album (in Madonna's).

Schmoopie
10-16-2008, 01:11 AM
I saw this on the news today. I liked them together and was sad to hear that they may be splitting, although I'd heard rumors about it for months (esp since the one about Madonna and Yankees player Alex Rodriguez).

Andrea

Janice
10-16-2008, 04:20 AM
It's too bad. I thought they looked good together, had a nice family, careers. I really had them lasting for some reason. I don't follow them or their careers, but they seemed happy. When I starting hearing that their marriage was troubled, over and over, I started to believe it. Enquirer, Star, whatever, when the same story keeps surfacing, it usually ends up true. The Enquirer has some of the best detectives on their staff. Put them in charge of finding Bin Laden, and they'll find him, in a compromising situation to boot, lol.

TripperFan
10-16-2008, 01:47 PM
It's too bad. I thought they looked good together, had a nice family, careers. I really had them lasting for some reason. I don't follow them or their careers, but they seemed happy. When I starting hearing that their marriage was troubled, over and over, I started to believe it. Enquirer, Star, whatever, when the same story keeps surfacing, it usually ends up true. The Enquirer has some of the best detectives on their staff. Put them in charge of finding Bin Laden, and they'll find him, in a compromising situation to boot, lol.


I agree. At least they do seem to be doing it amicably (sp?).

LOL - about putting the "rags" in charge of finding Bin Laden - you're dead on there girl! Heck, while they're at it, they should find "the real killer" for O.J.......oh never mind, that's not going to help him now is it?! :lol:

TJL
10-16-2008, 02:29 PM
Way to take the high road Madonna.

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2008/10/16/2008-10-16_madonna_jabs_at_guy_ritchie_by_dedicatin.html

MusicJunkie
10-16-2008, 02:38 PM
Way to take the high road Madonna.

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2008/10/16/2008-10-16_madonna_jabs_at_guy_ritchie_by_dedicatin.html
actually I love that she did that. :lol:

A lot of her US fans hate Guy because he's the one who insisted she move to England because it was beneath him to ever possibly consider relocating to the US, never mind the fact that Madge has 500 times the money he has and he should've known what kind of circus he was getting into when he met her. Now that they're splitting, she's putting her London homes on the market and moving back to NYC fulltime. I think Madonna received a lot of unnecessary media scrutiny for living in the UK and being seen as "hating America" when it was all her husband who refused to relocate to the states.

TJL
10-16-2008, 02:49 PM
I think she lost a lot of folks when she started doing the British accent.

What normal human being does that?

;)

TripperFan
10-16-2008, 02:49 PM
She must not care about the split of the money too much tho. Even though she's hired McCartney's lawyer, there's talk that the divorce will be done in the U.S. if she moves back there during it, which laws differ from England - she'll have to cough up 50% whereas in England, apparently it's not so cut and dry - he'd probably get a lot less.

'Course either way, she's got money coming out the wazoo so what's a few million between them.

At least she's cut out the fake English accent she took on when she first moved there. That period was really weird. ;)

TripperFan
10-16-2008, 02:51 PM
I think she lost a lot of folks when she started doing the British accent.

What normal human being does that?

;)


LOL - I didn't see this post Tom when I posted below - we're thinking the same thing there. Madonna and Britney Spears are the only ones I've ever heard of doing that. :lol:

MusicJunkie
10-16-2008, 03:03 PM
what about Tina Turner? She's lived in Switzerland for the past 20-someodd years and her accent has changed a lot too. I believe if you live somewhere so long, your accent starts to change. Look at the British and Australian actors who have lived in the US so long you can barely tell they're foreign at this point, Mel Gibson and Julian McMahon are two perfect examples IMO

Janice
10-16-2008, 03:36 PM
LOL - I didn't see this post Tom when I posted below - we're thinking the same thing there. Madonna and Britney Spears are the only ones I've ever heard of doing that. :lol:
Madonna overdid the accent thing. She lived there for two weeks and sounded like the Queen of England. :lol:

TripperFan
10-16-2008, 03:37 PM
what about Tina Turner? She's lived in Switzerland for the past 20-someodd years and her accent has changed a lot too. I believe if you live somewhere so long, your accent starts to change. Look at the British and Australian actors who have lived in the US so long you can barely tell they're foreign at this point, Mel Gibson and Julian McMahon are two perfect examples IMO


I totally agree with you - but the thing is that Madonna started with the accent within WEEKS of moving to the U.K.. I tend to pickup accents very easily, but even I wouldn't pick up an accent that fast - it's impossible. And now that she's been living there for approx. 8 years she has less of a British accent than she did 6 weeks after moving there. It was put on for whatever reason. Maybe she wanted to fit in, although that doesn't sound like the Madonna we know. She's never cared about "fitting in" since at least the early 80s (I have a friend, who has a friend that knew her when she was first starting out in NYC back then and got filled in about her).

Janice
10-16-2008, 03:40 PM
I totally agree with you - but the thing is that Madonna started with the accent within WEEKS of moving to the U.K.. I tend to pickup accents very easily, but even I wouldn't pick up an accent that fast - it's impossible. And now that she's been living there for approx. 8 years she has less of a British accent than she did 6 weeks after moving there. It was put on for whatever reason. Maybe she wanted to fit in, although that doesn't sound like the Madonna we know. She's never cared about "fitting in" since at least the early 80s (I have a friend, who has a friend that knew her when she was first starting out in NYC back then and got filled in about her).
Yeah, it was definitely phony because she dropped it, probably after the ridicule. Who knows why, but she laid it on thick in the beginning.

TJL
10-16-2008, 03:40 PM
he should've known what kind of circus he was getting into when he met her.

What does that mean?

Does that make it okay for her to rip Guy during her show?

I know Madonna has millions of fans who think her **** is ice cream and a fleet of publicists who will probably spin things to make it look like it's all Guy Ritchie's fault, but I think it's wrong for her to start slinging mud right after they announce the split.

MusicJunkie
10-16-2008, 03:47 PM
What does that mean?

Does that make it okay for her to rip Guy during her show?

I know Madonna has millions of fans who think her **** is ice cream and a fleet of publicists who will probably spin things to make it look like it's all Guy Ritchie's fault, but I think it's wrong for her to start slinging mud right after they announce the split.
oh, Guy already slung some mud yesterday complaining about what a "circus" and how fast-paced her life is and how he wanted her to settle down and she wouldn't. He should've known better to tame Madonna... if Sean Penn and Warren Beatty knew better, why didn't he?

I'll find the article, it was him speaking through his publicist about what a terrible wife she was

Janice
10-16-2008, 03:47 PM
What does that mean?

Does that make it okay for her to rip Guy during her show?

I know Madonna has millions of fans who think her **** is ice cream and a fleet of publicists who will probably spin things to make it look like it's all Guy Ritchie's fault, but I think it's wrong for her to start slinging mud right after they announce the split.
It's wrong. They have kids. There was just a thread on Chit Chit last week about couples bad mouthing their exes. Madonna's going public. Low, low, low. She'll just come off as a bitter hag if she keeps this up. I hope he at least takes the high road.

Scoobiedoo30
10-16-2008, 03:50 PM
I just wondering how old are the kids

TripperFan
10-16-2008, 03:51 PM
Yeah, it was definitely phony because she dropped it, probably after the ridicule. Who knows why, but she laid it on thick in the beginning.


Yep - I was expecting the "Royal Wave" to come out next! :crazy: :lol:

MusicJunkie
10-16-2008, 03:52 PM
found it

Guy Ritchie brands marriage to Madonna a "circus"

Guy Ritchie has branded his seven-and-a-half year marriage to Madonna a "circus" and has admitted that the pressure of being married to one of the world's most famous pop stars just became too great.

The film-maker has told of how it was impossible to have a normal family life with the singer who, he says, is obsessed with her public image.

According to the Mirror, Ritchie, 40, said: "I just wanted a regular husband and wife thing. But it was always a great song and dance just to do ordinary stuff.

"She's obsessed with her own public image, obsessed with being seen as some kind of global soothsayer.

"It's silly, she's a pop star. And some of the advisors around her, some of whom have gone, made it impossible for us to have a semblance of a normal life.

"I want to be able to go about my business and live my life without all the hoopla. Unfortunately, she can't live without all the hoopla. Our marriage was a three-ring circus in the end."

Madonna, 50, released a statement on Wednesday announcing that her and husband Ritchie were to divorce.

She had wanted to postpone the divorce announcement until the end of her world tour but Ritchie said that he wanted to end the "charade" now.

The British film director has said that he thought he would slip into depression as their relationship began to fall apart but that his wife lost her sense of fun as she began to believe she was on a mission to save the world.

He called the star's Kabbalah faith a "weird religion" and said that her religion was a big reason behind the break-up.

He added: "There was a time when she used to have a sense of humour about herself.

"In the last few years she just got angry. In the end we had no proper family life at all. We were two different people, living two different lives."

No settlement has been reached but experts have said that Ritchie is likely to get up to £50 million of the pop star's estimated £300 million.

The director of British gangster films including Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels is worth a fraction of that, with generous estimates putting his wealth at £20 million.

However, according to The Sun newspaper, Ritchie has told lawyers he wants "not one penny" of Madonna's estimated £300 million fortune.

The couple have already made the welfare of their three children - Lourdes, 11, Rocco, seven, and adopted David, two - their priority.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/3208229/Guy-Ritchie-brands-marriage-to-Madonna-a-circus.html

MusicJunkie
10-16-2008, 03:55 PM
I agree with Guy about Kaballah being a "weird" religion and I wish she would drop it like she's dropped other trends in her past, but I am surprised he expected Madonna to change and become this homebody housewife for him knowing she's someone who has lived her life in the spotlight ever since 1983-1984. I feel bad for both of them that it didn't work, but it does take two to tango and Madonna always seemed more supportive of Guy's career than he would with her. She's always show up at his movie premieres while he couldn't be arsed to even show up at the Hall of Fame induction ceremony, which is one of the greatest honors and moments of any artists' career IMO.

TJL
10-16-2008, 03:56 PM
"She's obsessed with her own public image, obsessed with being seen as some kind of global soothsayer."

Yeah, I'd say that's right.

;)

TripperFan
10-16-2008, 03:58 PM
I just wondering how old are the kids


Lourdes, her daughter by Carlos was born Oct. 14th, 1996, so she just turned 12 (nothing like having your parents' announce their breakup the week of your b'day huh?) and Rocco (Guy's son with Madonna) is 8 years old. It's a tough age for them too. Lourdes can probably handle it, but Rocco may have a tough time with it.

TripperFan
10-16-2008, 04:01 PM
I agree with Guy about Kaballah being a "weird" religion and I wish she would drop it like she's dropped other trends in her past, but I am surprised he expected Madonna to change and become this homebody housewife for him knowing she's someone who has lived her life in the spotlight ever since 1983-1984. I feel bad for both of them that it didn't work, but it does take two to tango and Madonna always seemed more supportive of Guy's career than he would with her. She's always show up at his movie premieres while he couldn't be arsed to even show up at the Hall of Fame induction ceremony, which is one of the greatest honors and moments of any artists' career IMO.


You know it must be weird when even Jews poopoo it. When all this Kaballah hoop started, it kind of intrigued me at first and I wanted to look into what it was all about. In the meantime, just by chance I was in contact with a high school English teacher I had who was Jewish. When I mentioned it to him, he hit the roof and told me not to waste my time. He was really strong about it too - felt it was like a cult type of thing. I just dropped it then.

MusicJunkie
10-16-2008, 04:09 PM
Lourdes, her daughter by Carlos was born Oct. 14th, 1996, so she just turned 12 (nothing like having your parents' announce their breakup the week of your b'day huh?) and Rocco (Guy's son with Madonna) is 8 years old. It's a tough age for them too. Lourdes can probably handle it, but Rocco may have a tough time with it.
I think Rocco will have the hardest time since he's Guy's biological son, and from the I'm Going To Tell You A Secret documentary, you could tell he's closer to his dad than mom. Lourdes is photographed in NYC with Carlos a lot, so I think she'll be fine since she's always been close with her biological father. Remember with Madonna, this isn't a typical divorce in the sense that even if she and Guy live on different continents, it's not like she can't just hop on a jet, as seen when she was London-based, but yet Carlos saw Lourdes all the time because Madonna can afford to send her daughter on a jet to NYC and back in a weekends time. But I really feel bad for Rocco, he was such a cute little kid in the Secret docu.

Janice
10-16-2008, 04:20 PM
Looks like they're both flapping their jaws. That's so bad, for themselves, but more importantly, their childen. Charlie Sheen and Denise Richards have made buffoons out of themselves. Same for Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger. They could all learn a thing or two from Bruce Willis and Demi Moore. Plenty of celebs get divorced and don't vent their spleens to the world over it. Idiots.

TripperFan
10-16-2008, 04:24 PM
I think Rocco will have the hardest time since he's Guy's biological son, and from the I'm Going To Tell You A Secret documentary, you could tell he's closer to his dad than mom. Lourdes is photographed in NYC with Carlos a lot, so I think she'll be fine since she's always been close with her biological father. Remember with Madonna, this isn't a typical divorce in the sense that even if she and Guy live on different continents, it's not like she can't just hop on a jet, as seen when she was London-based, but yet Carlos saw Lourdes all the time because Madonna can afford to send her daughter on a jet to NYC and back in a weekends time. But I really feel bad for Rocco, he was such a cute little kid in the Secret docu.

Yah, they do have that advantage at least of being kids of celebs where they can afford a jet basically anytime they want. Nicole and Tom have done it very successfully. You see their kids back and forth from Australia all the time. If anything, it's probably a pretty good life - you sure get to see the world! ;)
I hope they do get over the public trashing of each other. Again, there was a bit with Tom and Nicole at the beginning, but they put a lid on it for the kids and got through it.
It's true tho - Guy can't say he didn't know of her personality and lifestyle. I've got the Truth or Dare DVD and it's so obvious it was a "circus". It was even too much for Warren Beatty who previously had been known to be pretty wild himself.

Love is blind and Divorce is 20/20 Hindsight! ;)

Janice
10-16-2008, 04:28 PM
Kids take divorce hard, no matter what. No matter who they're close to, how rich they are, they are going to take it hard. My parents split for a while when I was 19, and I went out of my mind.

If Madonna and Guy can put their own selfish interests and bitterness aside, they can make it less difficult for the kids. If the make a spectacle of this, they're only going to make it harder for the kids. They should get family counseling, and try to be cordial for the sake of the kids. Something tells me that's not going to happen here, but I hope I'm wrong.

MusicJunkie
10-16-2008, 04:37 PM
Looks like they're both flapping their jaws. That's so bad, for themselves, but more importantly, their childen. Charlie Sheen and Denise Richards have made buffoons out of themselves. Same for Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger. They could all learn a thing or two from Bruce Willis and Demi Moore. Plenty of celebs get divorced and don't vent their spleens to the world over it. Idiots.
Bruce and Demi are the best example, they realized they weren't compatable and fell out of love, but they both put their kids first and maintained a friendly relationship and attended the others next weddings. I think M needs to realize this divorce is different from the time she split with Sean because there are children involved this time

MusicJunkie
10-16-2008, 04:40 PM
Yah, they do have that advantage at least of being kids of celebs where they can afford a jet basically anytime they want. Nicole and Tom have done it very successfully. You see their kids back and forth from Australia all the time. If anything, it's probably a pretty good life - you sure get to see the world! ;)
I hope they do get over the public trashing of each other. Again, there was a bit with Tom and Nicole at the beginning, but they put a lid on it for the kids and got through it.
It's true tho - Guy can't say he didn't know of her personality and lifestyle. I've got the Truth or Dare DVD and it's so obvious it was a "circus". It was even too much for Warren Beatty who previously had been known to be pretty wild himself.

Love is blind and Divorce is 20/20 Hindsight! ;)

actually, I've heard there is some pretty bad drama between Tom and Nicole, because Tom has made the kids renounce Christianity and embrace Scientology (IMO, a common mistake parents of different faiths make after a divorce, children should be taught both cultures and then make the conscious decision what they wish to be) and that Nicole's feelings were hurt that they call Katie "Mom".

Guy once expressed that he never followed Madonna's career, and that endeared him to her at the beginning, but you'd think at least when they were at the dating stage he'd have rented a copy of Truth Or Dare to know what he's getting into.

TripperFan
10-16-2008, 04:42 PM
I think everyone should learn from Bruce and Demi. In fact, I never really cared for either of them much before their divorce, but they both really earned my respect for the way they've conducted themselves all the way through things. Even Dr. Phil says they're amazing.

MusicJunkie
10-16-2008, 04:48 PM
You know it must be weird when even Jews poopoo it. When all this Kaballah hoop started, it kind of intrigued me at first and I wanted to look into what it was all about. In the meantime, just by chance I was in contact with a high school English teacher I had who was Jewish. When I mentioned it to him, he hit the roof and told me not to waste my time. He was really strong about it too - felt it was like a cult type of thing. I just dropped it then.
I have to admit at the beginning (97-98), I thought Kaballah was interesting because Madonna has always been one to take little bits and pieces from under the radar and introduce it to the mainstream (like voguing and henna tattoos) and I figured this would be another one of those, but then it got to a point where I got bored with her interviews because Kaballah became all she'd talk about. In a sense, she's turned into Tom Cruise with the cult and it's kind of sad that a woman who was all about this independent strong image let herself become brainwashed by a cult. Her brother who came out with a tell-all not long ago even blackmailed him with Kaballah, telling him she wouldn't pay him for the decorating job he did on her house unless he goes to several Kaballah classes with him.

MusicJunkie
10-16-2008, 05:56 PM
what is really ironic timing about the announcement of the divorce is that she and Warner are just about to release "Miles Away" as a single.

Take a listen to the words and the song was definately commentary that the marriage was in disarray and falling apart, and then she and him announce their divorce right before this is released as a single http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOg4-zUzVNk

catlover79
10-16-2008, 06:12 PM
I think everyone should learn from Bruce and Demi. In fact, I never really cared for either of them much before their divorce, but they both really earned my respect for the way they've conducted themselves all the way through things. Even Dr. Phil says they're amazing.
Yes, I agree. At least they kept their issues private and resolved them like - ADULTS!!

TJL
10-16-2008, 07:06 PM
Okay folks, on to some important stuff...

When do you think we'll see Madge and "good friend" Yankee slugger Alex Rodriguez together?

;)

TripperFan
10-16-2008, 07:29 PM
Okay folks, on to some important stuff...

When do you think we'll see Madge and "good friend" Yankee slugger Alex Rodriguez together?

;)


She'll have to go back to her Marilyn Monroe persona for that one....(a la DiMaggio) ;)

dawsongirl
10-17-2008, 01:11 AM
actually I love that she did that. :lol:

A lot of her US fans hate Guy because he's the one who insisted she move to England because it was beneath him to ever possibly consider relocating to the US, never mind the fact that Madge has 500 times the money he has and he should've known what kind of circus he was getting into when he met her. Now that they're splitting, she's putting her London homes on the market and moving back to NYC fulltime. I think Madonna received a lot of unnecessary media scrutiny for living in the UK and being seen as "hating America" when it was all her husband who refused to relocate to the states.
Probably because no one here thinks he's a good film director.

dawsongirl
10-17-2008, 01:13 AM
what about Tina Turner? She's lived in Switzerland for the past 20-someodd years and her accent has changed a lot too. I believe if you live somewhere so long, your accent starts to change. Look at the British and Australian actors who have lived in the US so long you can barely tell they're foreign at this point, Mel Gibson and Julian McMahon are two perfect examples IMO
That takes a lot of practice and faking an American accent for a while though. I don't think it just comes naturally. Yeah, you may adopt words here and there, but you're natural accent will still come through.

dawsongirl
10-17-2008, 01:15 AM
I totally agree with you - but the thing is that Madonna started with the accent within WEEKS of moving to the U.K.. I tend to pickup accents very easily, but even I wouldn't pick up an accent that fast - it's impossible. And now that she's been living there for approx. 8 years she has less of a British accent than she did 6 weeks after moving there. It was put on for whatever reason. Maybe she wanted to fit in, although that doesn't sound like the Madonna we know. She's never cared about "fitting in" since at least the early 80s (I have a friend, who has a friend that knew her when she was first starting out in NYC back then and got filled in about her).
But if an American moved to England and took on their accent, wouldn't most natives still look at you like, Nice fake accent, Yankee?

TripperFan
10-17-2008, 02:57 AM
But if an American moved to England and took on their accent, wouldn't most natives still look at you like, Nice fake accent, Yankee?


LOL - oh probably! And they can pick out the errors in the accent more easily too. She'd look like a twit frankly. She's a saavy broad as they say, can't understand why she pulled that one.

catlover79
10-17-2008, 01:49 PM
Okay folks, on to some important stuff...

When do you think we'll see Madge and "good friend" Yankee slugger Alex Rodriguez together?

;)
That's what I was thinking...

Zoneboy
10-17-2008, 11:37 PM
Link (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/3215207/Madonna-banned-Guy-Ritchie-from-watching-television.html)

Madonna 'banned Guy Ritchie from watching television'
Madonna and Guy Ritchie's relationship reportedly became "less about passion and more about control" as the singer enforced a strict diet and banned her family from watching television.

By Aislinn Simpson
Last Updated: 3:24PM BST 17 Oct 2008

Eternal youth: Madonna was on a quest to defy the ageing process Photo: AP The 50-year-old singer, a known health fanatic, would spend up to four hours a day in the gym before taking her children to Kabbalah religious meetings, according to friends.

Breakfast was low-fat smoothies and suppers would consist of steamed fish and vegetables, while television was regulated because Madonna believed it harmed her children's development, they claim.

One also claimed that Madonna refused to allow sunlight to touch her skin, and used to cover herself in thick moisturising cream worth £500 a pot.

A friend was quoted as saying: "Guy likes to look after himself but doesn't see the harm in having the odd treat."

He also worries that Madonna's attitude about food will be passed on to the children. He doesn't want to see them have an unhealthy relationship with food."

Another said: "The evening meal would consist of steamed fish and seasonal vegetables. If Guy fancied a pie and a pint he would have to nip down to the pub. That sort of stodge was banned from the family home."

The more liberal Mr Ritchie, a director of British gangster films including Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, reportedly protested about the strict regime that was imposed on him and the couple's children, Lourdes, 11, Rocco, seven, and David, two, but there was no change.

The singer's quest for eternal youth was also cited as a cause for frustration.

A friend said Madonna is worried about lines of age showing on her face. "She refuses to allow sunlight – even through windows – to touch her skin and drapes herself in linen sheets and towels in order to escape the sun's damaging rays.

"Some nights she'll completely cover herself with thick moisturising creams.

"She'll go through pots and pots worth £500 a pop. And then she climbs into these protective plastic body suits. She sleeps covered in all this gunk and plastic."

In the end, Mr Ritchie gave up trying to influence his wife, who has been in showbusiness for nearly 30 years and has an estimated personal fortune of £275 million.

One insider said: "Guy was fed up to the back teeth with having such a regimented life. He simply couldn't take it any more.

"The relationship became less about passion and more about control."

The decision to divorce was announced in a joint statement on Wednesday, nearly eight years after the couple's lavish wedding at Skibo castle, Scotland, on December 22, 2000.

MusicJunkie
10-18-2008, 03:44 AM
Link (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/3215207/Madonna-banned-Guy-Ritchie-from-watching-television.html)

Madonna 'banned Guy Ritchie from watching television'
Madonna and Guy Ritchie's relationship reportedly became "less about passion and more about control" as the singer enforced a strict diet and banned her family from watching television.

By Aislinn Simpson
Last Updated: 3:24PM BST 17 Oct 2008

Eternal youth: Madonna was on a quest to defy the ageing process Photo: AP The 50-year-old singer, a known health fanatic, would spend up to four hours a day in the gym before taking her children to Kabbalah religious meetings, according to friends.

Breakfast was low-fat smoothies and suppers would consist of steamed fish and vegetables, while television was regulated because Madonna believed it harmed her children's development, they claim.

One also claimed that Madonna refused to allow sunlight to touch her skin, and used to cover herself in thick moisturising cream worth £500 a pot.

A friend was quoted as saying: "Guy likes to look after himself but doesn't see the harm in having the odd treat."

He also worries that Madonna's attitude about food will be passed on to the children. He doesn't want to see them have an unhealthy relationship with food."

Another said: "The evening meal would consist of steamed fish and seasonal vegetables. If Guy fancied a pie and a pint he would have to nip down to the pub. That sort of stodge was banned from the family home."

The more liberal Mr Ritchie, a director of British gangster films including Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, reportedly protested about the strict regime that was imposed on him and the couple's children, Lourdes, 11, Rocco, seven, and David, two, but there was no change.

The singer's quest for eternal youth was also cited as a cause for frustration.

A friend said Madonna is worried about lines of age showing on her face. "She refuses to allow sunlight – even through windows – to touch her skin and drapes herself in linen sheets and towels in order to escape the sun's damaging rays.

"Some nights she'll completely cover herself with thick moisturising creams.

"She'll go through pots and pots worth £500 a pop. And then she climbs into these protective plastic body suits. She sleeps covered in all this gunk and plastic."

In the end, Mr Ritchie gave up trying to influence his wife, who has been in showbusiness for nearly 30 years and has an estimated personal fortune of £275 million.

One insider said: "Guy was fed up to the back teeth with having such a regimented life. He simply couldn't take it any more.

"The relationship became less about passion and more about control."

The decision to divorce was announced in a joint statement on Wednesday, nearly eight years after the couple's lavish wedding at Skibo castle, Scotland, on December 22, 2000.


Even tho I have always loved Madonna, I couldn't even fathom living with her. The woman has been surrounded by "yes" people for so long (and she stopped talking to her brother because they started arguing) that she has too much power for her own good. It's one thing to try to keep her kids away from television and read and do other constructive things, but its another to absolutely dictate everything your husband does too if it's nothing destructive. Madonna has been successful so long and always associates with people that kiss up to her that she forgets she's not the alpha and omega.

And btw Madonna, the lack of sunlight to try to make you look younger doesn't work, you don't look 50.... you look 60 :lol: She looked great until her mid-40's and then suddenly in the past year or two she started to age terribly, especially when compared to Cyndi Lauper, Belinda Carlisle and Prince, all the same age (and Cyndi is five years older and looks 40) and none of them have visibly gone to the lengths to try to preserve their youth as she has. She works out too much and eats too little, there was a really unflattering picture of her leaving a gym a few months ago where she looked near-death. Give me the Madonna who sang Lucky Star who wasn't afraod to show the world that a little bit of a belly over the skin-and-bones M of today.

MusicJunkie
10-19-2008, 08:26 PM
ROFL!!

http://forums.madonnanation.com/index.php?showtopic=22876

With the divorce, you wonder if it'll happen or not now :rofl:

Jude The Obscure
10-20-2008, 04:47 PM
^What was the message? You have to be a member to see it.

MusicJunkie
10-20-2008, 05:48 PM
^What was the message? You have to be a member to see it.
ohhhh, I didn't know you had to be a member to read it

There's a thread there where fans are placing bets on if the fake British accent is going to be gone now that she's moving back to NYC :lmao:

catlover79
10-20-2008, 06:23 PM
ohhhh, I didn't know you had to be a member to read it

There's a thread there where fans are placing bets on if the fake British accent is going to be gone now that she's moving back to NYC :lmao:
Yeah, now it'll be a fake Bronx accent. :rofl:

MusicJunkie
10-20-2008, 07:22 PM
Yeah, now it'll be a fake Bronx accent. :rofl:
actually, that wouldn't be the first time she had that too :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izvxAoP_HhQ I have to admit that it was one of my favorite film performances of hers because the movie was just silly fun, she wasn't trying to be artsy or pretentious like in some of her bad movies like Swept Away and Body Of Evidence,

dawsongirl
10-20-2008, 09:06 PM
actually, that wouldn't be the first time she had that too :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izvxAoP_HhQ I have to admit that it was one of my favorite film performances of hers because the movie was just silly fun, she wasn't trying to be artsy or pretentious like in some of her bad movies like Swept Away and Body Of Evidence,
:lol: Never heard of that movie, but it looks kinda funny.