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Wreckless
09-15-2008, 08:00 AM
What if another person was on the boat or was stranded on the island throughout the whole show? What traits could they have to best help the group get off? Post what you think the member would be like, how they would act and if they would get along with other members of the group and if they would have any love interests with the original 7.

AB
09-15-2008, 08:19 PM
Another female character to even it out would have been nice. She could have been a combination of MaryAnn & Ginger. She would probably get along with everyone except Ginger who would see her as competition. She might consider the professor for a love interest.

Chocolate Moose
09-15-2008, 08:38 PM
too bad none of the girls got preg. and gave b irth on the island.

Wreckless
09-16-2008, 01:18 AM
I always thought Mary Ann and the professor should of- you know lol. But yeah, another woman would be competition for her. Another guy, that's muscular is great. Because the professor was smart, intelligant but wasn't really built. He was muscular, and not as skinny as Gilligan but a real strong guy could help carry things along with the skipper. Plus, the millionaire was too old, he was hilarious but I mean, having a strong guy would make up for that.

Céline
09-16-2008, 07:39 PM
I'm sure that you guys already know that there was supposed to have a fouth season but,without Ginger?She was going to be rescued but,not the others,strange isn't it?But,on the second episode,two young ladies were supposed to get stranded.I think that the 2 girls of pilot would have been perfect.

mrs.gingerhinkley
09-16-2008, 08:32 PM
^really Celine? I always thought the idea of two secretaries were stupid. From the info I accumulated, the two who were to replace Ginger were suppossed to be best friends from a band or something I thought. I guess they were going to attempt to cover the entertainment genre of people per say... I thank the heavens in some ways that we never got to the fourth season.

I know this is totally defeating the point of the thread, and I appologize Wreckless, but I always marvelled at how ballanced the cast was. The characters and their personalities all seemed to react and work well with all the others. And to finish, I will always argue that the show would have suffered severly without even just one of the characters.

kooky12
09-22-2008, 01:25 PM
What if another person was on the boat or was stranded on the island throughout the whole show? What traits could they have to best help the group get off? Post what you think the member would be like, how they would act and if they would get along with other members of the group and if they would have any love interests with the original 7.

A practical joker would be a good fit. He would get along well with Gilligan, even though Gilligan would be the butt of many of the jokes. The Skipper would have another castaway to yell at. He would thwart some of the Professor's experiments and rescue attempts, but it would be by jokes backfiring rather than by Gilligan's ineptitude. The Howells would be a bit too stuffy for a prankster, but making their money disappear occasionally would be amusing. The girls would love him because he would make them laugh (until they become the recipient of the joke.)

Céline
09-24-2008, 07:37 PM
^really Celine? I always thought the idea of two secretaries were stupid. From the info I accumulated, the two who were to replace Ginger were suppossed to be best friends from a band or something I thought. I guess they were going to attempt to cover the entertainment genre of people per say... I thank the heavens in some ways that we never got to the fourth season.

I know this is totally defeating the point of the thread, and I appologize Wreckless, but I always marvelled at how ballanced the cast was. The characters and their personalities all seemed to react and work well with all the others. And to finish, I will always argue that the show would have suffered severly without even just one of the characters.

As long as the Skipper & Gilligan would have been there,I would have enjoyed watching many more seasons that's for sure.They were the souls of the show all the others were secondary.I didn't like the secretary's idea either but,Sherwood always said that the castaways represent difference social parts:the working class(Skipper,Gilligan & Mary Ann),the rich-aristocrate class(the Howells),the celebrity(Ginger) and the intellectual-scientist(the professor).It's natural that the 2 girls that would have replaced Ginger come from the same background.So,may be it wouldn't have been that bad after all.

ph1l
09-25-2008, 03:07 AM
I wouldn't have minded an extra girl. Probably another glamour similar to Ginger and the kind of character Bunny looked like being. It may have made a nice balance. Three girls nattering around the cooking pot would have had the writers busy.
I guess the names would have had to fit into the "the movie star" syllables for the themes sake.

mrs.gingerhinkley
09-28-2008, 04:54 PM
I didn't really mind the two girls from the pilot, just the fact that they were both secretaries. I think Bunny would get annoying, but I thought the 'original' Ginger was interesting: smart, sarcastic-witty...
But as for replacing Tina Louise's Ginger, well that's a whole other thread.

Also consider, however, that with three girls there might be more fights. Gossip, catfights, clashing personalities, ect. And maybe more competition over the men, less subtle I mean, than what we saw.

ph1l
09-29-2008, 02:50 AM
I wonder if they ever considered keeping the Ginger character by using another actress (similar to Darrin in Bewitched).

Céline
09-29-2008, 08:44 AM
I didn't really mind the two girls from the pilot, just the fact that they were both secretaries. I think Bunny would get annoying, but I thought the 'original' Ginger was interesting: smart, sarcastic-witty...
But as for replacing Tina Louise's Ginger, well that's a whole other thread.

Also consider, however, that with three girls there might be more fights. Gossip, catfights, clashing personalities, ect. And maybe more competition over the men, less subtle I mean, than what we saw.


Look on the bright side...They would have been dance partners for everyone ;)

mrs.gingerhinkley
09-29-2008, 10:58 AM
I wonder if they ever considered keeping the Ginger character by using another actress (similar to Darrin in Bewitched).
Uuhhh... I hate it when they do that. My proof is in the reunion movies.



lol, good point celine! It would cause a reconsideration of who is with whom. ;-)

Steve Carras
10-02-2008, 11:31 PM
Another female character to even it out would have been nice. She could have been a combination of MaryAnn & Ginger. She would probably get along with everyone except Ginger who would see her as competition. She might consider the professor for a love interest.


Betty Grable. For those too young to know, she was kinda a prototype for them and for Marilyn Monroe AND Doeris Day, the top mpinup of World War II (Grable)..kinda like Courtney Thorne Smith, Sandra Bullock, etc.today. The SKIPPER would know, being a wartime captain.....! Good choice, Annball1957!

But just WHAT would her name and occupaion (competetion with Ginger, evenetually sidiing in the first episode with Mary Ann, as it would turn out regaridng Bets?)

Grable died in 1973, so we'll never know (like that old Tootsie roll pops thing).

Hey, for females how about Eva Gabor sinc eher sis was a guest (the only female white to guerast, as Erika, she and Eva could be rivals, and Eva and her Green Acres werer on the same network CBS, unfortunately the same one prez Jim Aubrey deruralized for these in 1971:().

For males, Billy DeWolfe. In case you don't know who he was, he was with such 1940s and 1950s stars as Betty Hutton, Doris Day, and other beuaties and cuties and the Rankin Bass voice of the 1969 Frosty the Snowman prissy villian, Professor Hinkle..the guy who always said "Nasty nasty Nasty" etc. Or Richard Haydn, the nasal sounding English high pitched comic who was with Gilligan guest ("The Pigeon) and Disney veteran Sterling Holloway in Disney's
}Alice in Wonderland", the guy who "Alvin and chipmunk"'s 1961 Clyde Crashcup was based on, the one parodied in the 1940s Bugs short as saying "Ex-act-iucaly" like Buddy Holly gone pedantic.)

(Acutally, all of the above would be great costars..can ya imagine Eva Gabor as Erika Tiffan'ys Smith's sisterfollowing the E.T. episode with Zsa Zsa)...


or Paul Lynde (only he was under contract to ABC)..he could be great cheimstry, or Gary owens, before Laughin (which followed Gilligan's cancallation, so no network con flict 'tween its the rival networks would exist as Gary Owens would have been a castaway on a show on CBS cancelled in 1967 prioir to the debut of Owens's Laugh In in 1968 on NBC) Can you imagine Gary Owens as a castaway, always announging a la his later NBC character, and the profressor, say (name)" can you please knock it off"..or show producer creator Sherwood Schwart'z later actor in "Its about time":--"You'll Never Get Rich" and "Car 54 where are you" comic Joe E.Ross...oh my gosdh..Ooh ooh Ooh..Skipper...(what about a future Brady Bunch member, for Schartz's shows..ANN BE DAVIS!! She'd be the SHIP's COOK....)

Steve Carras
10-02-2008, 11:31 PM
Another female character to even it out would have been nice. She could have been a combination of MaryAnn & Ginger. She would probably get along with everyone except Ginger who would see her as competition. She might consider the professor for a love interest.


Betty Grable. For those too young to know, she was kinda a prototype for them and for Marilyn Monroe AND Doeris Day, the top mpinup of World War II (Grable)..kinda like Courtney Thorne Smith, Sandra Bullock, etc.today. The SKIPPER would know, being a wartime captain.....! Good choice, Annball1957!

But just WHAT would her name and occupaion (competetion with Ginger, evenetually sidiing in the first episode with Mary Ann, as it would turn out regaridng Bets?)

Grable died in 1973, so we'll never know (like that old Tootsie roll pops thing).

Hey, for females how about Eva Gabor sinc eher sis was a guest (the only female white to guerast, as Erika, she and Eva could be rivals, and Eva and her Green Acres werer on the same network CBS, unfortunately the same one prez Jim Aubrey deruralized for these in 1971:().

For males, Billy DeWolfe. In case you don't know who he was, he was with such 1940s and 1950s stars as Betty Hutton, Doris Day, and other beuaties and cuties and the Rankin Bass voice of the 1969 Frosty the Snowman prissy villian, Professor Hinkle..the guy who always said "Nasty nasty Nasty" etc. Or Richard Haydn, the nasal sounding English high pitched comic who was with Gilligan guest ("The Pigeon) and Disney veteran Sterling Holloway in Disney's
}Alice in Wonderland", the guy who "Alvin and chipmunk"'s 1961 Clyde Crashcup was based on, the one parodied in the 1940s Bugs short as saying "Ex-act-iucaly" like Buddy Holly gone pedantic.)

(Acutally, all of the above would be great costars..can ya imagine Eva Gabor as Erika Tiffan'ys Smith's sisterfollowing the E.T. episode with Zsa Zsa)...


or Paul Lynde (only he was under contract to ABC)..he could be great cheimstry, or Gary owens, before Laughin (which followed Gilligan's cancallation, so no network con flict 'tween its the rival networks would exist as Gary Owens would have been a castaway on a show on CBS cancelled in 1967 prioir to the debut of Owens's Laugh In in 1968 on NBC) Can you imagine Gary Owens as a castaway, always announging a la his later NBC character, and the profressor, say (name)" can you please knock it off"..or show producer creator Sherwood Schwart'z later actor in "Its about time":--"You'll Never Get Rich" and "Car 54 where are you" comic Joe E.Ross...oh my gosdh..Ooh ooh Ooh..Skipper...(what about a future Brady Bunch member, for Schartz's shows..ANN BE DAVIS!! She'd be the SHIP's COOK....)

lm
10-03-2008, 02:43 PM
This is such a great question! If I get the chance to think about it more deeply, I'll certainly resurrect it in the future with a more thoughtful reply.
Still, without thinking too much about it, I say--what about a woman for the Skipper? It's a little sad that he's kind of left out--even Erika dumps him for the Professor. That might be nice if the series were ending, to keep everything on a lighthearted note. Maybe a more working class type older woman around his age would also be kind of a mother/Aunt Martha figure for Maryann. I haven't thought through all the implications of this and, right away, can see how that would change some things that maybe shouldn't be changed but, as I said, this is just a fluff kind of answer.

As for Bunny and the first Ginger--perhaps it's not fair after having experienced the contributions of the real Ginger and Maryann--but, no way!
Bunny, although sweet, seems like somewhat of a bimbo and that secretary Ginger is kind of nasty and unappealing. No loss, I feel.

As for the proposed two new girls in Season 4, maybe Schwartz would have pulled it off in a great way--that's only fair to suggest--but I'm glad that I never had to see them. Although, the genius of having TWO replacements for Ginger is that they don't automatically seem like a replacement because they're the wrong number (2). Maybe by then it would have also been fun to have a new castaway who reflected the changing times in some way and provided a culture clash with what they were missing back home--maybe a hippie, for example. That would have distracted from any attempt to replace Ginger and would've actually replaced her not with another character but with a representation of something from back home. Dealing with the character's seemingly outlandish beliefs/behavior would replace the need to come up with another "personality type" or risk repeating any. Gender, social class, etc. wouldn't matter. It could even be someone who was once rich, like the Howells, but gave it all up--so he/she could relate a little to all. He/she may have travelled like the Skipper, been well-read like the Professor and his/her entertainment quality could be playing folk music. Here we would basically have the original castaways (minus Ginger) with something new to face--and their original relationships not disrupted or threatened. Hey, we could make it a woman closer to the Skipper's age--so he could eventually fall for her as the series ended. Hey, I think I got my idea. What do you think?

Jack77
10-09-2008, 04:06 PM
I just want to clear up the fact that yes Sherwood did have a script ready should Tina Louise want off the show, but the truth of the matter is that CBS would have never allowed it! Why mess with a hit show?
Also it would be really stupid to just have Ginger find a way off the island and not the rest! They all got there together & they would be leaving together!

If anything the network would have just replaced Tina like they did in the Gilligan reunion movies!
They did it with Beverley Owen when she wanted out on another CBS series The Munsters and replaced her with Pat Preist. It was also done on so many other TV shows back then including Bewitched which made a habit of it. As you know they replaced the first Darrin "Dick York" with "Dick Sargent" and then there was Louise Tate & Mrs. Kravitz also being played by different women. It's not really a big deal! Today, recasting roles is done all the time on soap operas. Heck they even do it in the movies Batman, Superman, James Bond etc. have all gone through different actors!

Face it, having two new characters on GI would have made a mess and complicated the show we all knew and had come to love and Sherwood would have had to create a whole new theme song and film a brand new opening with the original 6 castaways getting stranded then meeting up with the new 2 sisters. Too complicated, just recast the Ginger role would have been the final word of CBS!

Aloha!:wave: