Mrs. May Brown played by Ronne Troup. I felt so bad for her. She was an emotional reck. Maggie for very fortunate to get Sam back. Mrs. Brown loses out because:

Her son Tommy was killed in an accident.
She grew attatched to a boy her hubby kidnapped and even he was taken away from her as well.
Her husband gets arrested for kidnapping.
She must continue to cope with the death of her son.
She must also cope with her husband's deceit.


That is a lot for a grieving mother/wife to take.

What do you think happened to the browns afterwards?

yeah. i felt bad for her more than anyone cuz she was innocent in all of this as well.. was it ever confirmed by anyone that this episode was made from the Adam Walsh situation? there was a tv movie about that incident. back when they actually played tv flix more than once even if it was the next year or so..

Her son Tommy was killed in an accident.
She grew attatched to a boy her hubby kidnapped and even he was taken away from her as well.
Her husband gets arrested for kidnapping.
She must continue to cope with the death of her son.
She must also cope with her husband's deceit.

And also the possibility of CPS taking her other son away from the home

CPS? Whew! I didn't think about that one. Maybe Bobby could have stayed under his mother's care.

I can't confirm that this issue was based on a movie. I do know around the mid 80s that there was a lot of controversy about kidnappings. The Milk Cartons, The "no, go, tell" lectures in school. When I was in second grade (months before "Sam's missing aired), someone came to my school and talked to us kids about what to do. Kidnappings were a hot topic back around that time. There were other TV shows like "Punky Brewster" that covered the issue.

No one acts like that in real life who lost a son, I would have divorced her crazy A$$ if I was that guy.
She was no longer mentally able to be a mother to the other boy, she should have been put away-lol

CPS? Whew! I didn't think about that one. Maybe Bobby could have stayed under his mother's care.

I can't confirm that this issue was based on a movie. I do know around the mid 80s that there was a lot of controversy about kidnappings. The Milk Cartons, The "no, go, tell" lectures in school. When I was in second grade (months before "Sam's missing aired), someone came to my school and talked to us kids about what to do. Kidnappings were a hot topic back around that time. There were other TV shows like "Punky Brewster" that covered the issue.


I remember the whole picture on the milk carton thing. I wonder why they stopped that.

No one acts like that in real life who lost a son, I would have divorced her crazy A$$ if I was that guy.
She was no longer mentally able to be a mother to the other boy, she should have been put away-lol


Solomon! LOL. How could you say something like that? That woman has had a rough time. :eek: I don't agree and would not lock her up. It doesn't have to go that far.

Solomon! LOL. How could you say something like that? That woman has had a rough time. :eek: I don't agree and would not lock her up. It doesn't have to go that far.


Being anti-social is one thing, that woman was staring into space looking like a ZOMBIE-lol

Being anti-social is one thing, that woman was staring into space looking like a ZOMBIE-lol


Of course. The woman is still in mourning. You and I have never been grieving mothers that lost children in an accident.

Of course. The woman is still in mourning. You and I have never been grieving mothers that lost children in an accident.


Tom I don't think anyone acts like that who lost a child, and if they did I wouldn't want to be around them because they would make me nervous

Hmmm...I sense insecurity. LOL. Juuust Kidding. Like I said, you and I have never been in the position so we can't make the judgement call.

Hmmm...I sense insecurity. LOL. Juuust Kidding. Like I said, you and I have never been in the position so we can't make the judgement call.


My boss lost his son this year nd my aunt lost her daughter in 2004 and neither of them are walking around looking like that crazy a$$ woman-lol

My boss lost his son this year nd my aunt lost her daughter in 2004 and neither of them are walking around looking like that crazy a$$ woman-lol


Everyone grieves in their own way

Solomon, how could you say nobody acts like that in real life?! People DO act like that when mourning the death of a love one! So what if she was a zombie and anti-social?! Can you blame her?! Like Thomas E said, you have never been through something like that, so it's easy for you to say something like that! Yeah, life goes on, but this is something we humans have to go through at some point! Some people can't take death very well!

Boy, you need some serious help! I would think a 32 year-old man like yourself would have a more mature respond than that!

My boss lost his son this year nd my aunt lost her daughter in 2004 and neither of them are walking around looking like that crazy a$$ woman-lol

Well, the world is not like your boss and aunt!

My boss lost his son this year nd my aunt lost her daughter in 2004 and neither of them are walking around looking like that crazy a$$ woman-lol

And another thing, this ex co-worker of mine was murdered by her boyfriend last August, and her mother hasn't returned to work to this day!

Solomon, how could you say nobody acts like that in real life?! People DO act like that when mourning the death of a love one! So what if she was a zombie and anti-social?! Can you blame her?! Like Thomas E said, you have never been through something like that, so it's easy for you to say something like that! Yeah, life goes on, but this is something we humans have to go through at some point! Some people can't take death very well!

Boy, you need some serious help! I would think a 32 year-old man like yourself would have a more mature respond than that!


I guess we are going to have to disagree on this one because she was acting like she was on ACID-lol Damm, they could have had her acting sad or just not interested in talking but not SPACED OUT while she was sewing-lol

I guess we are going to have to disagree on this one because she was acting like she was on ACID-lol Damm, they could have had her acting sad or just not interested in talking but not SPACED OUT while she was sewing-lol

I hate to say this, but maybe you need to go through something like that and see how well you take it.

I hate to say this, but maybe you need to go through something like that and see how well you take it.



I think we need to watch this ep together so I can show you what I mean-lol

I think we need to watch this ep together so I can show you what I mean-lol

We don't need to watch anything together, I saw the episode quite a few times. This ain't about the episode, it's about your lack of remorse when someone is mourning the death of a loved one.

We don't need to watch anything together, I saw the episode quite a few times. This ain't about the episode, it's about your lack of remorse when someone is mourning the death of a loved one.

Garfield, I had to edit an earlier post of yours. I know Solomon says interesting things, but no name calling please. :crazy: :D

Solomon, Garfield is right. You can't make that judgement call. No way! People are different on different levels. When I think of you, I think of George Jefferson, the 1970's version. :lol:

Everyone grieves in their own way
You are so right. It is not in the plans for a parent to buried a child.

As for grieving there is no right nor wrong way to grieve. It is all in how the individual manages. When a person suffers a loss by way of death it is best to find a support group one can trust to get involve with or if the person is involve with a church with the hope of having a bereavement support group there. One has to be careful in sharing their grief openly because not everyone knows how to receive a person who is openly grieving. I experienced that after losing my father and grandmother in the same year. Not properly managing my grief and I would break out sobbing anywhere and got hurt in process because many did not know how to handle it. With that wrong things got said out of ignorance and insensitivity. All about choices an individual makes in dealing with loss.

I know losing a child is a far different loss than a parent. I am not a parent and I cannot fathom a loss like that but I had two cousin's who respectively lost their only child. It was hard to see them go through it.

Well, the world is not like your boss and aunt!
Solomon thinks the world revolves around his way of thinking, the way he sees things is the way WE ALL SHOULD SEE THINGS, the way he expects everyone to agree with him, etc. We live in the real world. We have families, we have kids, we have had deaths in our families and I have suffered the loss of a nephew in a car accident that left me in such despair for 6 months I could not eat, I could not even tend to my own kids. I was horrible. I didn't take care of how I looked or dressed. I didn't leave my house. My then husband did EVERYTHING while I was in mourning and in a deep depression.

There have been many many cases of a person (mostly women) who have had a miscarriage and kidnapped a baby because they could not cope with the loss of a baby. There are also cases of older children being kidnapped because a woman could not deal with the loss of a child.

I am sorry but you are acting thick-headed to not think OUTSIDE OF YOUR REALM and realize these things happen in the real world. Maybe if you ventured outside of that bubble world you live in and read a newspaper, watch the news, watch some documentaries, etc. you would see there are such people in the world who don't fit the NORM.

Solomon thinks the world revolves around his way of thinking, the way he sees things is the way WE ALL SHOULD SEE THINGS, the way he expects everyone to agree with him, etc. We live in the real world. We have families, we have kids, we have had deaths in our families and I have suffered the loss of a nephew in a car accident that left me in such despair for 6 months I could not eat, I could not even tend to my own kids. I was horrible. I didn't take care of how I looked or dressed. I didn't leave my house. My then husband did EVERYTHING while I was in mourning and in a deep depression.

There have been many many cases of a person (mostly women) who have had a miscarriage and kidnapped a baby because they could not cope with the loss of a baby. There are also cases of older children being kidnapped because a woman could not deal with the loss of a child.

I am sorry but you are thick-headed to not think OUTSIDE OF YOUR REALM and realize these things happen in the real world. Maybe if you ventured outside of that bubble world you live in and read a newspaper, watch the news, watch some documentaries, etc. you would see there are such people in the world who don't fit the NORM.


Irene you can't comment on this because you didn't see the episode. I don't mind if someone disagree with me if they saw what I saw

ARe you here in my house? I did see it before. I am talking abt how the woman behaved. We can disuss a person being catatonic. I bet you didn't even read my post. :snob:

Are you still mad at me because of the Michael and grampst topic? ;) :lol:

ARe you here in my house? I did see it before. I am talking abt how the woman behaved. We can disuss a person being catatonic. I bet you didn't even read my post. :snob:

Are you still mad at me because of the Michael and grampst topic? ;) :lol:


No, i just didn't understand what you mean when you said I want everyone to agree with me. If someone doesn't agree that's fine.

No, i just didn't understand what you mean when you said I want everyone to agree with me. If someone doesn't agree that's fine.
It's supposed to be fine. But you start reacting like no one should behave that way because they lost a child. WHO SHOULD TELL ANYONE HOW THEY SHOULD ACT AFTER LOSING A CHILD? God forbid anyone here should ever have to live through that. And God forbid anyone not having any understanding for that either.

It's supposed to be fine. But you start reacting like no one should behave that way because they lost a child. WHO SHOULD TELL ANYONE HOW THEY SHOULD ACT AFTER LOSING A CHILD? God forbid anyone here should ever have to live through that. And God forbid anyone not having any understanding for that either.


I wasn't so much talking about the character, I was pointing out how bad of an actress she was compared to the rest of her family. But that's my opinion and that's your opinion.

ARe you here in my house? I did see it before. I am talking abt how the woman behaved. We can disuss a person being catatonic.


ThomasE: (snapping his fingers three times in a masculine manner of course):lol:

ThomasE: Scared of you girlfriend!

I wasn't so much talking about the character, I was pointing out how bad of an actress she was compared to the rest of her family. But that's my opinion and that's your opinion.
There you go. You are trying to tell me what you MEANT versus what you POSTED. You posted your feelings abt what is normal versus what is not normal after losing a child. Don't try and tell me what all of us here read. We all reacted to your post. Are you telling me now that is not what you posted?

HERE ARE YOUR WORDS:

No one acts like that in real life who lost a son.

There you go. You are trying to tell me what you MEANT versus what you POSTED. You posted your feelings abt what is normal versus what is not normal after losing a child. Don't try and tell me what all of us here read. We all reacted to your post. Are you telling me now that is not what you posted?

HERE ARE YOUR WORDS:

No one acts like that in real life who lost a son.



Yes and that's my opinion. So why can't you accept that?

We need an icon here depicting the beating of a dead horse!

I also want to add that I personally witness what the death of a child does to a mother. My older brother, Evans, died last July 7th and I was the one to be there for mom all the time--THIS WAS ONE OF THE HARDEST, IF NOT HARDEST, TIMES IN MY LIFE. NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO EXPERIENCE THAT! My mother is only just now beginning to be the wonderful outgoing person she once was. The anniversary is coming up and I have to gird myself up for that, not just my sake, for her sake.

ThomasE: (snapping his fingers three times in a masculine manner of course):lol:

ThomasE: Scared of you girlfriend!


:lol:Too Funny:lol:

ThomasE: (snapping his fingers three times in a masculine manner of course):lol:

ThomasE: Scared of you girlfriend!
:lol: :D :cool: :snob:

You know how it goes Thomas. Geez. It is posted there for all of us to see and now Solomon is trying to tell us that is not WHAT HE MEANT. :lol: How many times have we had that before? :crazy:

TYPE WHAT YOU MEAN!!!!! ;) :p

Solomon, what you posted is not an opinion. It is a fact that NOT EVERYONE REACTS THE SAME WAY TO A CHILD WHO HAS DIED. :rolleyes:

:lol: :D :cool: :snob:

You know how it goes Thomas. Geez. It is posted there for all of us to see and now Solomon is trying to tell us that is not WHAT HE MEANT. :lol: How many times have we had that before? :crazy:

TYPE WHAT YOU MEAN!!!!! ;) :p



Only thing left to do now is go to the toilet-lol

Only thing left to do now is go to the toilet-lol
Of course. :lol:

Only thing left to do now is go to the toilet-lol

Just make sure you lift the seat lol

Only thing left to do now is go to the toilet-lol


more like the woodshed!:lol:

We need an icon here depicting the beating of a dead horse!

I also want to add that I personally witness what the death of a child does to a mother. My older brother, Evans, died last July 7th and I was the one to be there for mom all the time--THIS WAS ONE OF THE HARDEST, IF NOT HARDEST, TIMES IN MY LIFE. NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO EXPERIENCE THAT! My mother is only just now beginning to be the wonderful outgoing person she once was. The anniversary is coming up and I have to gird myself up for that, not just my sake, for her sake.
I agree a DEADHORSE BEING BEATEN is what this board needs. It sure could have come in handy for the Good Times thread last night. ;)

Sorry to hear this story of yours Jude. :( No parent should ever have to lose a child. It is one of thee most horrendous things a parent may have to endure. And it is rude and thoughtless to think that anyone cannot become mentally unstable because of it. Until you walk in that parent's shoes you have no idea what you are talking abt. Saying that no one can become that way is ignorant, plain and simple.

yall are a trip-lol

Jude86, man heart goes out to you. I wish you nothing but the best. You know that you didn't have to share, but I'm glad you did.

Thanks, Thomas........and please, as a friend, call me Jude. :lol:
The 86 part makes me sound like I'm an agent of C.O.N.T.R.O.L. :D

Thanks, Thomas........and please, as a friend, call me Jude. :lol:
The 86 part makes me sound like I'm an agent of C.O.N.T.R.O.L. :D

(Mimicking Michelle Tanner) You got it, jude! :lol:

Irene you can't comment on this because you didn't see the episode. I don't mind if someone disagree with me if they saw what I saw

Like I said, this isn't about that episode, it is about you telling someone how to react when they lose a loved one! How do you know Irene didn't watch the episode anyway?

I wasn't so much talking about the character, I was pointing out how bad of an actress she was compared to the rest of her family. But that's my opinion and that's your opinion.

No, you didn't say that! You stated that the woman was a zombie and anti-social. You didn't say anything about how bad of an actress she was!

Only thing left to do now is go to the toilet-lol

Please do, and don't come out until you got something worthwhile to talk about!

Please do, and don't come out until
you got something worthwhile to talk about!



Stop doing the moonwalk on a dead horse and go to he sports board, I got something there for you

Stop doing the moonwalk on a dead horse and go to he sports board, I got something there for you

You created the dead horse, dude.

"Go to he sports board?" :lol:

You created the dead horse, dude.:lol:
If there is ever a dead horse smiley made it should be called Solomon. ;)

I hear that song by Billie Preston in my head, "Will it go round in circles." :lol:

think we gettign way off topic here ido agree the mother on this episode was bit overboard feeling that any mother who lost a child would be feeling horribell words cant describe it but she did over react n nobody acts like that in real life sitting there sowing staring in2 space like a dang zombie.


the father and the son was doing just fine im glad sam got out of there safe n sound

also heard the mother on the episode actress who played her died n real lfie

Ronne Troup died? If so, it isn't reported on imdb.

As far as the acting goes, I saw no problem with the acting. Some people take longer to heal. I did not think that she overacted at all. I thought that she was brilliant.

oh sorry my mistake the father died i got names mixed up got this from tv.com




The late Royce D. (no relation to Christina) Applegate went on to star as "CPO Manilow Crocker" on the TV series SeaQuest DSV which also starred another late great, Jonathan Brandis. Interestingly, Royce was born on Christmas Day 1939 and died on New Year's Day 2003...

...Ronnie Troup is the daughter of late Emergency! stars Bobby Troup and Julie London. (edit)




This two-parter was actually the last episode taped for the series. Supposedly, the Drummonds are renovating the penthouse; actually, the set was being torn down while they shot. (edit)

As was phased in last season, the emphisis now is more soley on Arnold and/or Sam, with some characters, such as Willis and Pearl, being seen less regularly. (edit)



The original theme tune, used from the 1st season up until the last, is replaced with an updated version. This is due to NBC owing a copyright to the original, so ABC was forced to create a new one. The closing credits also have a new, synthesized version. (edit)



Mary Ann Mobely took over the role of Maggie from Dixie Carter, the only character in the show's eight-year run to be re-cast. (edit)


Ironic that Different Strokes joined the same network which also showed Webster, which basically stole the same idea of a pint size adopted kid from Different Strokes. Webster also did better in the ratings as well. (edit)

I did not know Julie London & Bobby Troup had a child together. I knew they were married. Thanx for the info Mike. :wave:

I agree Thomas, I don't think her acting was overboard. Mary Ann Mobley on the other hand...:lol:

got this from part2



This episode is the final time the whole Drummond family appeared on-screen together. (edit) This 2-parter is a very important tool to use for kids who need to know about the tricks and dangers strangers use to try and lure innocent kids. It is very educational. (edit)



Ronne Troup nearly played the title role in the TV series The Flying Nun. The role of Sister Bertrille had been created for Sally Field, who had recently completed her one-year run as TV's Gidget. But Field turned the series down, preferring instead to pursue a movie career. So, the producers gave the role to Ronne. They even shot a pilot episode with her. But, it wasn't to be. Field had a change of heart and decided to take the role after all, and Ronne was let go in favor of the better-known actress. This was a year before Danger Island and three years before she joined the cast of My Three Sons. (edit)






http://www.tv.com/ronne-troup/person/34136/summary.html shows she was on

I did not know Julie London & Bobby Troup had a child together. I knew they were married. Thanx for the info Mike. :wave:

I agree Thomas, I don't think her acting was overboard. Mary Ann Mobley on the other hand...:lol:

"Is this a bad time? :rolleyes: Course this is a bad time".

"I don't give a d*mn about those chairs!" (Throws hands up)

"Ohhh". (Mouth wide open.)

"Is this a bad time? :rolleyes: Course this is a bad time".

"I don't give a d*mn about those chairs!" (Throws hands up)

"Ohhh". (Mouth wide open.)
:lol:

On tvtome.com it states that "Sam's Missing" was the last episode taped for the series which is false. It was the 4th episode in production order taped for the series just to clear that up.

TV.com was so much better when it was TVtome. IMDB screwed up on information regarding Hangin' With Mr. Cooper too. I found info there yesterday that was soooooo far off. :crazy:

IMDB is not accurate with many other things as well. I know that it only listed Dawn Lewis being in six episodes but it also listed Loretta Long being on "Sesame Street" from 1969-1983 at one time. Updates are always being made to it.

IMDB is not accurate with many other things as well. I know that it only listed Dawn Lewis being in six episodes but it also listed Loretta Long being on "Sesame Street" from 1969-1983 at one time. Updates are always being made to it.
Yeah, I had made a thread abt that Dawn Lewis info. I was floored when I read that. I knew she had appeared in way more episodes but wasn't sure how many. That is just some crazy info for a show that was well established. I have caught many errors on IMDB but that took the cake. :lol:

IMDB is not accurate with many other things as well. I know that it only listed Dawn Lewis being in six episodes but it also listed Loretta Long being on "Sesame Street" from 1969-1983 at one time. Updates are always being made to it.


Yeah that's because members can add things to IMDB like they can with wikipedia.

On tvtome.com it states that "Sam's Missing" was the last episode taped for the series which is false. It was the 4th episode in production order taped for the series just to clear that up.

Which makes me wonder, HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? If it was produced fourth, how was the apartment ALREADY remodeled for those first three episodes that were produced? I never understood that. The first so-called "produced" episode was about Phillip and Maggie not spending enough time together. When I watched it, I was like "Wait, don't they have an episode about them remodeling, repainting, new furniture, etc.?" Then I was like "Oh well must have imagined it" and then Sam's Missing happens and they are JUST begining the remodel. I usually prefer production order, but in this case airdate order makes so much more sense. I just don't understand how they could have produced the already new apartment episodes BEFORE they remodeled it lol. Like when Arnold wants to take a picture of the family on the old couch before it is gone, but the first three episodes of that season it's already missing!

Which makes me wonder, HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? If it was produced fourth, how was the apartment ALREADY remodeled for those first three episodes that were produced? I never understood that. The first so-called "produced" episode was about Phillip and Maggie not spending enough time together. When I watched it, I was like "Wait, don't they have an episode about them remodeling, repainting, new furniture, etc.?" Then I was like "Oh well must have imagined it" and then Sam's Missing happens and they are JUST begining the remodel. I usually prefer production order, but in this case airdate order makes so much more sense. I just don't understand how they could have produced the already new apartment episodes BEFORE they remodeled it lol. Like when Arnold wants to take a picture of the family on the old couch before it is gone, but the first three episodes of that season it's already missing!

And that's the exact reason why I don't like station airing reruns by production order.Because you'll run into minor or in this case major continuity issues.

CPS? Whew! I didn't think about that one. Maybe Bobby could have stayed under his mother's care.

I can't confirm that this issue was based on a movie. I do know around the mid 80s that there was a lot of controversy about kidnappings. The Milk Cartons, The "no, go, tell" lectures in school. When I was in second grade (months before "Sam's missing aired), someone came to my school and talked to us kids about what to do. Kidnappings were a hot topic back around that time. There were other TV shows like "Punky Brewster" that covered the issue.
I'm thinking that later Mr. & Mrs. Brown got divorced off-screen, with Mrs. Brown having custody over Bobby and Mr. Brown in prison.