that the exterior of Cindy James' house is identical to the exterior of Patsy Wright's house?

LOL! No, but now I'm gonna have to look! :)

That the same private investigator working hard to clear the man convicted of being the Bird Road Rapist is also the one who gave Amy Billig's mom the tip about her being offered to a PI in Engerland?

That during the segment about the woman who masterminds the murder, robbing, and subsequent burning of her relative's home, then flees to Texas after overhearing that they found her bloody fingerprint on the gas can at the home...the man she is with is identified as her "common-law husband".

However, during the interviews with other family members, one of whom is convinced HE was the mastermind behind the crime, it is brought out that the couple had only been together for about a year or so.

I don't know how the law goes in Podunk, Kansarkansas; but in California common-law marriages can happen only after 7 years of co-habitation.

Where I live, you could simply declare that the person you met one minute ago is your common-law spouse!

Needless to say, my state doesn't have common-law marraiges anymore.

Did anyone notice that the same investigator is interviewed in both the Aileen Conway and Dwayne McCorkendale segments?

Did anyone notice that the same investigator is interviewed in both the Aileen Conway and Dwayne McCorkendale segments?

Yes you are right. His name is Paul Renfrow, at the time he was the Director of Public Information of the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation.

I found it interesting that an investigator interviewed during the Unabomber segment on the third special was also interviewed a few years later about the convenience store thrill killer in Sacramento. Did anyone else notice that?

I just watched the Bird Road Rapist segment and the P.I. Virginia Snyder was also interviewed in the Amy Billig segment.

Did you ever notice ...

That depending on the location of the murder/case, Robert Stack will forgo his trademark trench for something more "à propos"?

In the Orange Sock Murders, RS is wearing a puffy, outdoorsy vest: it's LL Bean Stack!

Anyone else noticed this?

Did you ever notice ...

That depending on the location of the murder/case, Robert Stack will forgo his trademark trench for something more "à propos"?

In the Orange Sock Murders, RS is wearing a puffy, outdoorsy vest: it's LL Bean Stack!

Anyone else noticed this?
Yes! And I was thinking of making that my avatar when I saw it.

I just noticed that Donnie Darko's dad is in the Tatijana Kopric/Richard Bocklage segment as the assistant dean.

Did you ever notice ...

That depending on the location of the murder/case, Robert Stack will forgo his trademark trench for something more "à propos"?

In the Orange Sock Murders, RS is wearing a puffy, outdoorsy vest: it's LL Bean Stack!

Anyone else noticed this?

Oh yes. My personal favorite is his brown corduroy blazer he's wearing in the Shannon Mohr segment. I suppose trying to look outdoorsy around those horses...:lol:

Wasn't that a tan corduroy jacket with dark brown elbow patches?

I may be wrong, but I think the guy that plays Bill Day's attorney is the same guy that plays the annoying reporter Freddy Lounds in Manhunter.

Oh yes. My personal favorite is his brown corduroy blazer he's wearing in the Shannon Mohr segment. I suppose trying to look outdoorsy around those horses...:lol:

I remember that. I always wondered why he dressed differently!

Here are some things I've noticed.


* In the Jeremy Bright segment, when Cecilia Fish and her brother Johnny (or who I assume is Johnny) encounter the neighborhood guy with the blood-stained shirt while leaving their sister's apartment, Cecelia is wearing a pink sleeveless blouse. After she asks the man about the blood, the camera cuts to an overhead shot of all three of them. In the overhead shot, she is wearing a white jacket over what looks like a white undershirt.

* The empty coffee jars in Howard Drummond's room are Taster's Choice brand.

* There is a huge John Lennon poster in Carol Hilley's hospital room.

* In the letter found in Jesslyn Rich's house, the word "bulls---" is clearly visible.

* The girl who played Ashley in the segment about abusive nanny Rosa Hernandez and the girl who played Christina in the Ralph DiOrio miracle segment are one and the same.

* When Rachel Timmerman's father mentions her job, he very nearly says McDonald's, but catches himself and changes it to "the restaurant".

* The actress playing Annie Laurie Hearin is left-handed, as is the actress who played the other personnel manager in the Bonnie Wilder segment.

* In the poster shown asking for info regarding Little Miss Panasoffkee's identity (not the individual sketches themselves), in the age regression sketch, her eye is crooked.

I've always enjoyed finding little bloopers and things on TV shows that no one else ever notices!

that whenver someone seems guilty on UM, Stack always says "they declined to be interviewed for this segment."

In the Michael Hunter segment, the first time we see him falling off the motorcycle, he stops as soon as he hits the ground, but the second time, he turns around a couple times before stopping

That the Kurt Sova "crazy from Detroit" and the caller in the Monika Rizzo segment is the same actor---he has a distinct inflection in his voice. I saw him in a third segment as well, but I can't remember which one it was.

Is the little girl who played Diana Robertson's daughter and Susan Leferte's daughter the same person? I could swear she is.

That "Antonio" from the Rebecca Young segment is the most stereotypical old-Cuban-man-from-Miami in the world? Look at the way he's dressed!

That the exact same little country tune is used in virtually every scene involving a honky tonk?

>That the exact same little country tune is used in virtually every scene involving a honky tonk?

I may be thinking the same thing- the music in the background when Curtis Heck and Kenneth Ingy were "wrasslin'" is the same music in the bar where Clarence Roberts befriended a vagrant- and the same music Maine DJ Chris Roy played while talking on the phone with Gail Delano?

I may be thinking the same thing- the music in the background when Curtis Heck and Kenneth Ingy were "wrasslin'" is the same music in the bar where Clarence Roberts befriended a vagrant- and the same music Maine DJ Chris Roy played while talking on the phone with Gail Delano?

Exactly! I love that track. :lol:

Another thing I noticed- the woman who provides the voice-over of "The King and I" script from the Audrey Moate story is the same woman who does the voice-over of the readings from Gail Delano's diary. Not surprising, really- I imagine plently of actors and voice talents performed multiple duties on UM.

In the Agatha Christie episode where she disappears for a time (it is on the Strange Legends collection) there is a scene where she and her husband are having dinner with their daughter in one of their homes. At some point, the camera clearly shows what appears to be a modern day motion sensor, in the upper corner of the room. Pretty spiffy for what is supposed to be 1926!

They tend to re-use a lot of footage... For example, they re-used the DB Cooper footage of people on a plane for the segment about a plane bombing.

I noticed in the Audrey Moate segment yesterday on Spike that you can see modern-day tractor trailers at a rest stop out of Audrey's car window as she's driving by.

I just noticed that Donnie Darko's dad is in the Tatijana Kopric/Richard Bocklage segment as the assistant dean.

LOL....I noticed that too years ago and posted about it but I didn't think anyone believed me! Glad you noticed it too :)

The actor's name is Holmes Osborne. He was also in "That thing you do!" among other films.

I just noticed while watching some segments today that the same phone booth is used in the Judy Hyams and Nyleen Kay Marshall segments.

The actor who played Todd Mueller is also named Todd.

There's a stock scene that they keep using every time a cop walks into a "war room". There's a cop at a desk to the right. Another cop enters the room from a door at the back left, comes through a narrow hallway, walks past a tall beige file cabinet that is sort of in the center of the room, then enters the room that is sectioned off into cubicles with tall dividers instead of the lower style ones, and then walks over to the cop at the desk on the right.

IIRC, most everything in the room is about the same color of beige. The file cabinet, the cubicle dividers, etc.

That the exact same little country tune is used in virtually every scene involving a honky tonk?

What is a honky tonk?

What is a honky tonk?

A bar with both kinds of music, country AND western. :lol:

Somebody send Justin a copy of Trace Adkin's Honky Tonk Badonkadonk STAT!

Somebody send Justin a copy of Trace Adkin's Honky Tonk Badonkadonk STAT!

:lol: Not a proud moment in Nashville history...:p

:lol: Not a proud moment in Nashville history...:p

I got country music out of my system in the 90s. Now I don't even listen to music at all. Not even in the car. Weird, huh?

Did you ever notice that whenever a devil worshipping angle presented itself, UM never missed an opportunity bring it out in the forefront.

I must count like six cases that involved devil worship and in 5 of them
devil worship wasn;t even focus of the case!!!!:mad:

The Con Team case that involved that Asian woman.
The Shane Stewart case
Everyone's favorite "The Satanic Granny"
Rachel Runnion case
Omar the Arsonist
The Baskin grandchildren

Heck they even found two cases of Satan-spouting grandparents!!

What is with the bizzare fascination with Satanism back in the 70s and 80s??

"Satanic Grandma" would make an awesome name for a metal cover band, BTW
:lol:

Don't forget the best segment, the Son of Sam case.

Has anyone else noticed how crappy this new UM is?

And Kurt McFall, too. Ah, the mid-80s--where paganism and "devil worship" are ultimately one and the same.

Has anyone else noticed how crappy this new UM is?

Nope. Hadn't noticed that the new UM is bad. My head's itchy. I think the new eppies are fantastic. It makes the happiness run through my veins like giant rubber radioactive pants. I'm so glad that they sometimes put UM back on the air. I like waffles. They got waffle in 'em. I'm gonna sing the doom song now. Doom doom doom, doomie doomie doom, doom doom, doom doomie doom....

I just noticed that the composite sketch in the Wackers case looks exactly--and I mean exactly--like my father did in high school. Weird.

I just noticed that the composite sketch in the Wackers case looks exactly--and I mean exactly--like my father did in high school. Weird.

As Robert Stack always said...
For every mystery there is someone somewhere who knows the truth. Perhaps it's you.

Perhaps it really IS you. :lol:

I don't know what's scarier---the fact that Dad resembles an alleged assailant or that he could've been blown away by Bill "Guns a-Blazin'" Wacker!

The guy from Phoenix PD is interviewed in the Jeanne Tovrea case and the Doug Johnston (botched hit) case - his last name is Hamrick, and I like to think he's related to Robert Hamrick "some kind of way."

The Amy Billig case uses stock from Gus Hoffmann, Crystal Spencer, and the Ohio Prostitutes cases, I think...

Also, the Dennis DePue chase scene was from an earlier episode about bank robbers, but I can't remember which one.

The guy from Phoenix PD is interviewed in the Jeanne Tovrea case and the Doug Johnston (botched hit) case - his last name is Hamrick, and I like to think he's related to Robert Hamrick "some kind of way."

Yep, I noticed that. UM showed the Robert Hamrick case. And they've intereviewed one or two other cops in unrelated cases whose last names are Hamrick.

I thought it was kinda nifty, considering that Hamrick isn't a hugely common name, that there'd be other cops out there with that name.

Also, Robert Hamrick, the police chief who was murdered, had 5 or 6 kids. I wonder if any of them went into law enforcement.

Did you ever notice that whenever a devil worshipping angle presented itself, UM never missed an opportunity bring it out in the forefront.

I must count like six cases that involved devil worship and in 5 of them
devil worship wasn;t even focus of the case!!!!:mad:

The Con Team case that involved that Asian woman.
The Shane Stewart case
Everyone's favorite "The Satanic Granny"
Rachel Runnion case
Omar the Arsonist
The Baskin grandchildren:lol:

How about the Charlie Sigmin case. His wife (can't remember her name) was supposedly a satan worshipper.

You also have the Ellenders' case too.

I just noticed that the composite sketch in the Wackers case looks exactly--and I mean exactly--like my father did in high school. Weird.

Last time I saw that I thought the composite looked just like the detective that was investigating the case minus the glasses.

Last time I saw that I thought the composite looked just like the detective that was investigating the case minus the glasses.

:eek: I never thought of that before, but the resemblance is uncanny.

The same actress portrays Christi Nichols and Tracy Kirkpatrick.

I just noticed while watching some segments today that the same phone booth is used in the Judy Hyams and Nyleen Kay Marshall segments.

I'll have to double check, but I think it's the exact same footage in both stories. :eek:

Another scene they have reused a lot is the one of the search party combing a wooded area (searching for a missing person) - kinda looks like a hill that they are climbing and a guy close to the camera cups his hands around his mouth and yells out the missing person's name (although it's dubbed accordingly). They have used this shot for the Nyleen Kay Marshall, Tommy Gibson and Keith Reinhard stories and possibly more.

Pretty much any time someone goes missing in a woodsy area, be on the look out for this clip.

Another scene they have reused a lot is the one of the search party combing a wooded area (searching for a missing person) - kinda looks like a hill that they are climbing and a guy close to the camera cups his hands around his mouth and yells out the missing person's name (although it's dubbed accordingly). They have used this shot for the Nyleen Kay Marshall, Tommy Gibson and Keith Reinhard stories and possibly more.



I've noticed that too. Its also used in the Michael Rosenblum segment.

I just watched the Bird Road Rapist segment and the P.I. Virginia Snyder was also interviewed in the Amy Billig segment.


I never noticed that!!

...the same brown purse is used in the Charlotte Pollis and Gail Delano (post-Howard Johnson's) segments.

Just curious--have there been any clothing repeats in UM reenactments? I've never noticed any.

Also:

Does anyone remember the Frank Montenegro segment? The guy who was featured in People or some such publication for taking on the task of raising his younger siblings (including a seriously disabled brother) after his parents had suddenly died, and then was found to be a child molester? It was a much more recent segment--maybe 2001 or 2002.

This will sound atrocious, but does anyone notice a marked similarity between him and Brian Majors, victim of the Blind River rest stop gunman?

Does anyone even know what I'm talking about... :confused:

In the Tracey Kenley and Bill Rundle segment, they abbreviate Nebraska as "NB" when the police officer's name appears on the screen, but the actual abbreviation for Nebraska is NE

When UM does the case on The Mothman they said it takes place in Point Pleasant, Virginia. However, Point Pleasant is actually in WV. I know I live not far from there. Unless UM is stuck in a time warp before the Civil War? :confused: :crazy:

Here is one I have noticed...I don't know if anyone else has noticed or mentioned:

I always found it interesting...Kurt McFall. The supposed scenario is that he fell off the cliff...and his last name is McFALL? Always struck me as strange.

Also, I have noticed that many of the people interviewed involved in cases often have the same names or last names as other victims on UM. I think one is Laura Bible and more, can't think of any right now.

Digging up an old thread while watching some football. (Sorry, guys. I just like this one. :p )

I noticed a few months ago the actress who plays Jennifer Pratt also portrays the victim in the William John Wood segment ("How about a hug?" ICK.)

In the Keith Reinhard reenactment, one book that is clearly visible beside Keith's computer is P.S. I Love You--not the novel upon which the recent film was based, but a 1981 biography of comedian Peter Sellers.

The hymn heard at the beginning of the Harold and Thelma Swain segment, as well as the one George Owens leads his congregation in in that segment's reenactment, is "Near the Cross" (1869).

Last one.

The hunter who chances upon Ethel Kidd and the Boston Mall Rapist are portrayed by the same actor.

I recognized the actor who played the Boston Mall Rapist on AMW years later. He played the father of a teenage boy who was kidnapped for ransom and murdered.

I have also noticed that UM liked to play up the "Satanic cult" angle.

However, I think the majority of those episodes were made in the 80's, when there was a lot of widespread panic about satanism. I also think the "Omar arsonist" was linked to Satanism, at least in the beginning...

I have also noticed that UM liked to play up the "Satanic cult" angle.

However, I think the majority of those episodes were made in the 80's, when there was a lot of widespread panic about satanism. I also think the "Omar arsonist" was linked to Satanism, at least in the beginning...

Oh yeah, big time. I remember reading somewhere that early on in the investigation LE developed a theory that "Omar" was a "demonic entity" that was apparently conjured by the arsonist. Turns out it was the kid who lived across the street from the arsonist or something--"Omar" was a real person. :lol:

I was trying to find a thread where this idea could fit in, and i decided to post it here.
I noticed a small blooper in the John Mars story (Dorothy Allison psychic story). John Mars was a New Jersey resident who commuted to his job in New York City, and who was presumed to have fallen out of his subway train and drowned in the Passaic river in 1974. Anyhow, when JOhn Mars first boards his train, he enters into a PATH train. PATH is the subway system that connects New Jersey to New YOrk City. HOWEVER, in a later scene, when Mars' train crosses over a bridge, it has changed to a New Jersey Transit Train. New Jersey Transit trains are NOT subway trains, but rather a commuter railroad that takes passengers to and from New York CIty

Wasn't sure where else to put this...

Had a look around and couldn't find anyone else who had mentioned it so apologies if I just hadn't come across it elsewhere.

I just noticed what seems to be a blooper in the Dennis Depue segment.

While Dennis (Hank Queen) is frantically trying to leave his house and his wife arrives home, part of his segment is playing on UM on the TV.

As Dennis walks past the TV (for the first time) we catch a part of the UM segment and Robert Stack's voice says "...need your help to find the man suspected of murdering his ex-wife".

The photo on screen during Stack talking though is actually "Judith Hyams" (from 'she's alive and lives in Omaha, Nebraska fame) and not the face of Depue's ex-wife Marilyn Depue.

I wonder if they left it in there on purpose or simply were in a hurry when editing the segment?

Wasn't sure where else to put this...

Had a look around and couldn't find anyone else who had mentioned it so apologies if I just hadn't come across it elsewhere.

I just noticed what seems to be a blooper in the Dennis Depue segment.

While Dennis (Hank Queen) is frantically trying to leave his house and his wife arrives home, part of his segment is playing on UM on the TV.

As Dennis walks past the TV (for the first time) we catch a part of the UM segment and Robert Stack's voice says "...need your help to find the man suspected of murdering his ex-wife".

The photo on screen during Stack talking though is actually "Judith Hyams" (from 'she's alive and lives in Omaha, Nebraska fame) and not the face of Depue's ex-wife Marilyn Depue.

I wonder if they left it in there on purpose or simply were in a hurry when editing the segment?

I brought up the same thing years ago and justin offered an explanation. I'll see if I can find it.

EDIT: It seems the post is eluding me. I remember the basic premise of what he explained, however. The Judy Hyams segment aired just before Dennis Depue's, on the March 20, 1991 episode (along with the Crystal Spencer segment and an update on Joe Weldon Smith's capture, among other things). The episode was correct, but the voice-over was perhaps misplaced during the edit.

While Dennis (Hank Queen) is frantically trying to leave his house and his wife arrives home, part of his segment is playing on UM on the TV.

I don't know if the re-enactment was accurate, but I always found it funny how Dennis is keeping his wife distracted in the kitchen making sandwiches, so that she won't notice he's being profiled on UM. Couldn't he just, you know, change the channel or turn off the TV? It's almost like watching UM was this couple's weekly ritual and that not having it on would instantly make her suspicious.

I don't know if the re-enactment was accurate, but I always found it funny how Dennis is keeping his wife distracted in the kitchen making sandwiches, so that she won't notice he's being profiled on UM. Couldn't he just, you know, change the channel or turn off the TV? It's almost like watching UM was this couple's weekly ritual and that not having it on would instantly make her suspicious.

I always thought he was probably in shock that his own story was airing on TV and almost half wanted to see what was being shown. A hundred things must have been going through his head at that instant, like how he needed to get out of there and what would his next move be. He clearly wasn't thinking straight. Not that he was good at that in the first place.

I just realized that the first shot of the world leaders segment is Robert Englund in his film portrayal of Phantom of the Opera!