View Full Version : Back to You Officially Cancelled!


ryan423
05-10-2008, 01:19 AM
FRIDAY 8:30 PM: Fox's 2007-2008 primetime season sitcom Back To You starring Kelsey Grammer and Patricia Heaton as bickering TV co-anchors has been cancelled. I've just been told that the network's comedy pilot The Inn (20th Century Fox TV/ Reveille/Principato-Young Entertainment) is officially picked up to series now. Just before this decision, the pilot was given the go-ahead by Fox to meet writers. So they can hire now. Directed by Jason Bateman, the pilot "screened best," I was told earlier today. The network liked it from the start, even though its initial script was deemed "unreadable" by some people whose opinions I respect. Writer/Exec Prod: Abe Higgenbotham. Stars: Niecy Nash, Jerry O'Connell, Molly Stanton, Jesse Tyler Ferguson, Jolene Purdy, Brando Eaton.

Official Source (http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-back-to-you-cancelled-the-inn-picked-up/)

I can't say I wasn't expecting it:( Goodbye Back to you!

P.S. TILL DEATH WAS RENEWED! WTF IS WRONG WITH FOX?!

Mr. Television
05-10-2008, 01:27 AM
I wish this sitcom had been on CBS. Fox hasn't had a good sitcom lineup in years. Is their any hope of another network picking it up?

ryan423
05-10-2008, 01:40 AM
I wish this sitcom had been on CBS. Fox hasn't had a good sitcom lineup in years. Is their any hope of another network picking it up?

You never know...maybe this is false info...let's wait for word from Pav or someone in an upcoming blog. Once official word from Pavan about the FOX upfront comes in, then i'll believe it 100%! Right now I'm leaning at 75% believability, lol, sad but true.

Pavan
05-10-2008, 01:45 AM
It is canceled, they renewed 'Til Death. There was buzz earlier in the day that BTY was canceled, and now it is official. Fox will bring in The Inn (starring Jerry O'Connell) and 'Til Death will return. The new Bernie Mac show is still in the running, possibly for mid-season.

Of course this won't be official until Thursday, but the trades are now reporting this. We will have a pilot rumbling session on the blog tomorrow.

ryan423
05-10-2008, 01:54 AM
It is canceled, they renewed 'Til Death. There was buzz earlier in the day that BTY was canceled, and now it is official. Fox will bring in The Inn (starring Jerry O'Connell) and 'Til Death will return. The new Bernie Mac show is still in the running, possibly for mid-season.

Of course this won't be official until Thursday, but the trades are now reporting this. We will have a pilot rumbling session on the blog tomorrow.

Pavan, any idea why a lower rated show would be picked up over the higher rated show (BTY being higher in the ratings)? Was it becuase episode 13 was the lowest-rated episode yet? Also, will the four episodes supposedly still air in the fall?

I really hope they end it properly. It would be absolutely horrible to end it Wednesday without a proper finale.

Ireneparalegal
05-10-2008, 01:59 AM
:eek:

Pavan
05-10-2008, 02:00 AM
'Til Death is cheaper to make. Plus it is one season ahead of Back to You, which means closer to syndication. 'Til Death skews younger, too. Sure BTY gets a bit more in total viewers, but TD gets the same or sometimes better in 18-49.

Not sure, what Fox will do with the four unaired episodes. Maybe a burn-off or it won't be aired. We should know Thursday.

repeatshistory
05-10-2008, 04:59 AM
WTF IS WRONG WITH FOX?!


What's NOT wrong with Fox? Pathetic excuse for a network, you ask me.

80sTrivia
05-10-2008, 07:19 AM
That's a shame. I just tuned into the show for the first time a few weeks ago and thought it was pretty good...

catlover79
05-10-2008, 07:40 AM
What's NOT wrong with Fox? Pathetic excuse for a network, you ask me.
:yeahthat That really bites...let's hope another network gives BTY another chance. Boo hiss to FOX. :mad:

samanddiane4eva
05-10-2008, 11:41 AM
Wow. I really wasn't expecting this. I predict a Jericho type campaign.

AB
05-10-2008, 12:09 PM
This makes me want to stop watching Fox!

Mr. Television
05-10-2008, 12:14 PM
This makes me want to stop watching Fox!
I've done that before, when they canceled Titus and Dark Angel. I would not watch any new show on Fox. I finally caved in when 24 premiered. Fox and sitcoms just don't go together.

catlover79
05-10-2008, 12:19 PM
I've done that before, when they canceled Titus and Dark Angel. I would not watch any new show on Fox. I finally caved in when 24 premiered. Fox and sitcoms just don't go together.
You mean any FOX sitcom that's not animated!!!

waichingliu81
05-10-2008, 12:53 PM
it's unbelievable though that these days a sitcom as good as back to you is cancelled by the likes of fox- and yet they don't have the decency to take off american idol. they are just obsessed with either adult-based animated shows like family guy, american dad or crappy reality tv. fox sucks

waichingliu81
05-10-2008, 12:55 PM
What's NOT wrong with Fox? Pathetic excuse for a network, you ask me.

other than the likes of the simpsons, there isn't really a decent show worth watching from that station. what the hell is fox mogul rupert murdoch playing at?

JulieSomoski
05-10-2008, 02:00 PM
This is ****ing unbelievable. There is no way FOX can cancel this show, yet renew Til Death. There is honestly something wrong with the heads of FOX.

We have to do something. This show just CANNOT BE CANCELLED! I am so pissed off right now. This show was the best new sitcom this season. There's got to be something we can do.

Can't wait until Brian gets over here . . . there will definitely be a riot on these boards! :eek:

I actually think there's a strong possibility another network will go for this show. We just cannot let it go . . . maybe ABC will pick it up (it wouldn't be a shocker, considering they got Scrubs from NBC and possibly Old Chrstine from CBS).

tv star collector
05-10-2008, 02:09 PM
Frankly, I'm not too surprised. I figured the writing was on the wall when they
began making all those cast changes. I knew then the show must be in trouble anytime they make three cast changes within three weeks. They were banking too much on stars Kelsey Grammer and
Patricia Heaton, two stars of very popular past sitcoms. Does anyone here remember The Boys
Are Back, starring Hal (Barney Miller) Linden and Suzanne (The Bob Newhart Show)
Pleshette? (I have to admit, though, that Grammer and Heaton had better chemistry than Linden
and Pleshette.)

Mr. Television
05-10-2008, 02:19 PM
You mean any FOX sitcom that's not animated!!!
Yep. Fox and non-animated people just don't mix. :lol: Then again they cancelled Family Guy once too so even that's not set in stone.

Pavan
05-10-2008, 02:22 PM
roseanne88-97, very unlikely CBS or ABC can pick it up because of the high cost. If it were doing a bit better in the ratings, then it would justify the cost. However, if it were doing a bit better, then Fox would have picked it up anyway.

Grammer was on Jimmy Kimmel Live last night. It seems Grammer didn't know BTY was canceled yet.

JulieSomoski
05-10-2008, 02:32 PM
roseanne88-97, very unlikely CBS or ABC can pick it up because of the high cost. If it were doing a bit better in the ratings, then it would justify the cost. However, if it were doing a bit better, then Fox would have picked it up anyway.

Grammer was on Jimmy Kimmel Live last night. It seems Grammer didn't know BTY was canceled yet.

It seems FOX has been doing tons of advertising for this show lately. Makes me wonder why'd they do that if they were planning on cancelling the show all along.

There's still got to be something we can do to save this show. It doesn't deserve to cancelled (and especially not over Til Death)

Sonia
05-10-2008, 02:38 PM
It seems FOX has been doing tons of advertising for this show lately. Makes me wonder why'd they do that if they were planning on cancelling the show all along.

There's still got to be something we can do to save this show. It doesn't deserve to cancelled (and especially not over Til Death)

I'm so pissed over this news I can't even think straight. There's nothing left to do, at this point all I can say is Great show Wrong network. Til' death? Don't even get me started!

JulieSomoski
05-10-2008, 02:42 PM
I'm so pissed over this news I can't even think straight. There's nothing left to do, at this point all I can say is Great show Wrong network. Til' death? Don't even get me started!

I think the least we could do is email FOX saying we want BTY back. At least that would show support for the show. It worked with Jericho, it could work with Back to You. Just letting this show go doesn't seem right.

waichingliu81
05-10-2008, 02:51 PM
how could a network cancel a show, which has been doing so well recently, in its first season? that's not just outrageous but stupid :mad:. i suppose that they never gave back to you a chance to grow properly as a show

Pavan
05-10-2008, 02:55 PM
waiching, the show was under-performing, so it wasn't doing so well. However, it should have been back for 1/2 a season next season at least. Anyway, more upfront rumblings:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2008/05/upfront-rumblings-mini-dvd-review-jag.html

energy
05-10-2008, 03:01 PM
This has got to be a blow for all of the creative people in front of and behind the camera of the show.

I thougth they were doing fine until the cast changes. At that point I started to lose confidence in the show. The one special twist this show had was the child that Chuck and Kelly secretly shared. When many episodes into the show they decided to make a cast change for that role, that was telling.

Hopefully will see Heaton and Grammer back in some type of sitcom soon, together or otherwise.

JulieSomoski
05-10-2008, 03:09 PM
Plus, the strike definitely hurt the momentum of this show. The last episode before the strike was the best showing, besides the 2 episodes that aired after AI. You'd think, with all things considered, this show had the best shot at being renewed, especially over TD . . . I guess we were wrong.

Sonia
05-10-2008, 03:41 PM
I think the least we could do is email FOX saying we want BTY back. At least that would show support for the show. It worked with Jericho, it could work with Back to You. Just letting this show go doesn't seem right.

I'm so pissed at FOX right now that I wouldn't want my favorite show to be on that network. They don't deserve a good show and the talent behind it. I wish ABC or CBS had bought it from the start! What a shame!

TV_Fan
05-10-2008, 03:49 PM
This really pisses me off. I will not be watching any new pilots on Fox for fear of the show getting cancelled just when I get into it. I will email Fox but doubt it will do any good.

JulieSomoski
05-10-2008, 04:00 PM
I'm so pissed at FOX right now that I wouldn't want my favorite show to be on that network. They don't deserve a good show and the talent behind it. I wish ABC or CBS had bought it from the start! What a shame!

Couldn't agree with you more right now. This was THE BEST sitcom they've probably ever had, which is saying a lot. The show's had a rocky season, no doubt, but with very few pilots, the 100 day strike, the midseason cast changes, I'm surprised they didn't renew it in some way. They outbid every other network for Back to You, and this is the way they treat it.

I highly suggest everyone email them immediately, saying they want the show to come back. It's the least we can do right now to have even a miniscule chance of saving this show. I'm gonna definitely tune in for the finale next Wednesday night, as should everyone else, to show this show can do well. I would die of laughter if it did very well.

Sonia
05-10-2008, 04:08 PM
[QUOTE=pavanbadal]roseanne88-97, very unlikely CBS or ABC can pick it up because of the high cost. If it were doing a bit better in the ratings, then it would justify the cost. However, if it were doing a bit better, then Fox would have picked it up anyway.

QUOTE]

You're right pavan, the show has high costs because quality comes a tad expensive...trash is cheap and trash is all Fox's got right now.They got what they bargained for!

Sonia
05-10-2008, 04:11 PM
Couldn't agree with you more right now. This was THE BEST sitcom they've probably ever had, which is saying a lot. The show's had a rocky season, no doubt, but with very few pilots, the 100 day strike, the midseason cast changes, I'm surprised they didn't renew it in some way. They outbid every other network for Back to You, and this is the way they treat it.

I highly suggest everyone email them immediately, saying they want the show to come back. It's the least we can do right now to have even a miniscule chance of saving this show. I'm gonna definitely tune in for the finale next Wednesday night, as should everyone else, to show this show can do well. I would die of laughter if it did very well.

Let's start a 'Bring Back to You Back" petition. I'd do it just out of loyalty to the cast and the crew because I really don't want to watch another FOX show anymore!!!

JulieSomoski
05-10-2008, 04:20 PM
Let's start a 'Bring Back to You Back" petition. I'd do it just out of loyalty to the cast and the crew because I really don't want to watch another FOX show anymore!!!

I'd sign any petition saving this show. I'm trying to think of something everyone could do to save this show. Emailing is the first step, but what else?

I wonder if Brian or Janice heard the news yet. Their is gonna be an all-out riot at this board as soon as they get over here.

waichingliu81
05-10-2008, 04:22 PM
waiching, the show was under-performing, so it wasn't doing so well. However, it should have been back for 1/2 a season next season at least. Anyway, more upfront rumblings:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2008/05/upfront-rumblings-mini-dvd-review-jag.html

but pavan, the show was still in its early days, it didn't even realise its potential yet. still, for a network that considers american idol as its main show, fox's treatment of back to you is shameful. i hope that in future, upcoming sitcom writers will have second thoughts about pitching and sending their sitcom scripts to fox

Sonia
05-10-2008, 04:24 PM
I'd sign any petition saving this show. I'm trying to think of something everyone could do to save this show. Emailing is the first step, but what else?

I wonder if Brian or Janice heard the news yet. Their is gonna be an all-out riot at this board as soon as they get over here.

I read the news in the morning but I was so pissed I just wanted to get out of the house and clear my head. Didn't feel like commenting on the forums until now. Maybe they're feeling the same...

JulieSomoski
05-10-2008, 04:32 PM
I read the news in the morning but I was so pissed I just wanted to get out of the house and clear my head. Didn't feel like commenting on the forums until now. Maybe they're feeling the same...

I know how you were feeling . . . I was the exact same way. I actually found out first when I saw the TV Guide article about it posted on the main page. Then I came to the boards, and found out it was actually true. I was just in complete shock. This was the show everyone thought would be the first to be renewed. I don't get how it can go from having a full 24 episode first season order (after only 5 or so airings in the fall) to be cancelled.

JulieSomoski
05-10-2008, 04:32 PM
but pavan, the show was still in its early days, it didn't even realise its potential yet. still, for a network that considers american idol as its main show, fox's treatment of back to you is shameful. i hope that in future, upcoming sitcom writers will have second thoughts about pitching and sending their sitcom scripts to fox

Another good point. It had so much momentum going in the fall. I'm sure if there wasn't a strike, we'd be seeing a second season.

Sonia
05-10-2008, 05:45 PM
You can comment your dissent on Nikki Finke's website "Deadline Hollywood" There have been a few comments so far all in support of the show. Many entertainment insiders watch that site....

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-back-to-you-cancelled-the-inn-picked-up/

or tvguide

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Fall-Tv-Preview/800039322

An of course BTY Official website on Fox

JulieSomoski
05-10-2008, 06:04 PM
I already sent an email to FOX and commented on their B2Y message board. I'll post on the other 2 right now . . . thanks for the links.

TVFactFan
05-10-2008, 06:06 PM
Damm I thought Fox would give the show atleast one more chance since this was a strike season.

JulieSomoski
05-10-2008, 06:12 PM
Damm I thought Fox would give the show atleast one more chance since this was a strike season.

Solomon, we all did. It's a shame FOX is run by a bunch of morons.

TVFactFan
05-10-2008, 06:15 PM
Solomon, we all did. It's a shame FOX is run by a bunch of morons.


I think Sunday Night would have been Good for BTY. It also sucks that it couldn't get atleast one more chance in the fall season when it's dark earlier nd people are in more versus March and APRIL when its dar later and the weather is nicer

Mr. Television
05-10-2008, 06:21 PM
I think Sunday Night would have been Good for BTY. It also sucks that it couldn't get atleast one more chance in the fall season when it's dark earlier nd people are in more versus March and APRIL when its dar later and the weather is nicer
You're right. A lot of the 8-9 p.m. shows have seen their ratings go down since the clocks got turned.

I still say Fox sucks when it comes to sitcoms. They forced these changes onto the producers and cancelled them anyway. Sickening. Yea Til Death was renewed because its cheap and is closer to syndication...just 2 more years to go, with awful ratings I'm sure. BTY belongs on CBS. I so wish they would create another sitcom hour and pick it up...air it at Wednesdays at 8 opposite Til Death.

TVFactFan
05-10-2008, 06:31 PM
You're right. A lot of the 8-9 p.m. shows have seen their ratings go down since the clocks got turned.

I still say Fox sucks when it comes to sitcoms. They forced these changes onto the producers and cancelled them anyway. Sickening. Yea Til Death was renewed because its cheap and is closer to syndication...just 2 more years to go, with awful ratings I'm sure. BTY belongs on CBS. I so wish they would create another sitcom hour and pick it up...air it at Wednesdays at 8 opposite Til Death.


It's also surprising it was cancelled because of all the things Heaton and Grammar have accomplished in the past and you would think that alone would automicially earn them ONE MORE SEASON

Sonia
05-10-2008, 07:05 PM
Bring it 'Back'

I posted this a few days ago but here's a scan to the actual article courtesy of backtoyouonline

http://www.backtoyouonline.com/bringback.jpg

Sonia
05-10-2008, 07:15 PM
I already sent an email to FOX and commented on their B2Y message board. I'll post on the other 2 right now . . . thanks for the links.

I'm a bit sceptical on this ... but what the hell..what address did you write Fox to... I don't feel like researching it on their website..See I DEEPLY HATE FOX now :mad: ..

JulieSomoski
05-10-2008, 07:55 PM
I'm a bit sceptical on this ... but what the hell..what address did you write Fox to... I don't feel like researching it on their website..See I DEEPLY HATE FOX now :mad: ..

Their email address is askfox@fox.com. I just sent an email telling them that it was a major disappointment that BTY was cancelled. Nothing major. I'm just hoping more people will take a minute or 2 and send them an email.

It was another good point made about the 8-9pm shows seeing ratings decrease. And it's very true . . . the fact that Daylight Savings time was earlier this year probably hurt most of the 8pm hour shows. All major shows have seen ratings decreases . . . DWTS, Big Bang Theory, AI, Deal or No Deal, Ugly Betty, and more.

ClassicTVGal
05-10-2008, 07:58 PM
That's really shocking! :eek:

Yeah, maybe Fox should just give up, lol. Drop the station all-together!

JulieSomoski
05-10-2008, 08:16 PM
That's really shocking! :eek:

Yeah, maybe Fox should just give up, lol. Drop the station all-together!

Great idea-LOL. I think at this point, the CW is looking pretty good :lol:

Does anyone know if there is an online petition about this? If not, I shall create one . . .

Brian Damage
05-10-2008, 08:25 PM
All I have to say is WOW...****ING WOW!

I am deeply upset about this news. I heard via an email from Janice early this morning. I was at work, so I couldn't pop in on the boards and comment.

I'll do whatever is necessary to campaign for its survival. While, the show may be cancelled ,(And believe me that does upset me) I am more upset that a select few are probably dancing the :jig: right now that it was canned.

I knew FOX was going to cry poverty after the WGA strike. I knew it, knew it, knew it!

JulieSomoski
05-10-2008, 08:41 PM
All I have to say is WOW...****ING WOW!

I am deeply upset about this news. I heard via an email from Janice early this morning. I was at work, so I couldn't pop in on the boards and comment.

I'll do whatever is necessary to campaign for its survival. While, the show may be cancelled ,(And believe me that does upset me) I am more upset that a select few are probably dancing the :jig: right now that it was canned.

I knew FOX was going to cry poverty after the WGA strike. I knew it, knew it, knew it!

Brian, this news is as upsetting as it gets right now. It's a shame that a show this great is getting treated this badly. Have you emailed FOX yet? NOt sure what good it'll do for us, but right now, it's the only shot we have.

I'm a little leery about making an online petition. If anyone else would like to make one, PLEASE DO!

I think it's also important that the final episode this Wednesday does well. If more people than usual watch it, and ratings are way up, that could help some as well. Anything at all that will help, it will help.

Brian, you think there's any chance this show won't be cancelled? I mean, is there any way at all we have a shot at this?

Family Ties Forever!
05-10-2008, 09:04 PM
Such a shame that this show has been canceled. It was a good show. People are going to miss it.

catlover79
05-10-2008, 09:08 PM
Frankly, I'm not too surprised. I figured the writing was on the wall when they
began making all those cast changes. I knew then the show must be in trouble anytime they make three cast changes within three weeks. They were banking too much on stars Kelsey Grammer and
Patricia Heaton, two stars of very popular past sitcoms. Does anyone here remember The Boys
Are Back, starring Hal (Barney Miller) Linden and Suzanne (The Bob Newhart Show)
Pleshette? (I have to admit, though, that Grammer and Heaton had better chemistry than Linden
and Pleshette.)
I remember when The Boys Are Back was on, and saw ads for it, but never watched it. George Newbern (Kimberly Williams' husband in the Father of the Bride movies) was one of the "boys".

Brian Damage
05-10-2008, 09:27 PM
Brian, this news is as upsetting as it gets right now.


There is always a chance, despite what some people think they "know."

Ireneparalegal
05-10-2008, 09:33 PM
Can an online petition be made?

Janice
05-10-2008, 09:41 PM
No hiding on my end, just been under the weather. The news is very distressing. I truly enjoyed the show. I think it belongs on CBS. It just has that feel to it. FOX is simply not a sitcom network. Who knows what will happen. This is likely curtains for the show, but I've seen all sorts of things happen with shows. I don't know what Kelsey and Patty's salaries were. If they were way out there, I guess I understand the cancelation. Perhaps they should have started mid-range salary, with a clause that if the show really took off, so would their paychecks. I'm not blaming them, and I think that FOX should have given the show at least some shows into next season. It wasn't given a fair shot, while they renewed that POS Til Death.

JulieSomoski
05-10-2008, 10:32 PM
You think there's a chance in hell CBS would even consider going back to this show? I mean, they already have 2 new sitcoms coming in (almost for sure), with 5 returning (considering Old Chrstine will return). That's quite a lot. If they brought in BTY, it would make an even 8 sitcoms, where they could make 2 separate nights for all of them. Highly unlikely, but a suggestion.

I just think FOX acted to quickly to Wednesday's ratings. Sure, they weren't good, but I don't think that accounts for cancelling a show just like that. I hope the series (?) finale scores huge.

Continue to email, or get other people to email. I'll try to make an online petition right now . . .

ryan423
05-10-2008, 10:46 PM
If this Wednesday's episode does terrible, I wouldn't expect to see those four we thought we'd see in the fall! I just hope if they go straight to dvd, we still get a proper ending. I won't even be as disappointed if we got a proper finale. I think thats why I got over studio 60 because we got a proper ending.

WE AT LEAST DESERVE A DVD RELEASE!

JulieSomoski
05-10-2008, 10:51 PM
If this Wednesday's episode does terrible, I wouldn't expect to see those four we thought we'd see in the fall! I just hope if they go straight to dvd, we still get a proper ending. I won't even be as disappointed if we got a proper finale. I think thats why I got over studio 60 because we got a proper ending.

WE AT LEAST DESERVE A DVD RELEASE!

I'm hoping the final episode will do better than normal, just because of all the buzz that's been going around on its cancellation, and the fact that it's the series finale.

I think the final episode (what FOX is calling the finale) is actually best suited to be the show's finale. I just hope it isn't like a cliffhanger . . . if it was, FOX better have gone back and tied up the loose ends.

I'm wondering myself what will happen to those 4 unaired episodes. My guess is either FOX will burn them off someway in the summer, or they'll go straight to DVD.

Brian Damage
05-10-2008, 11:01 PM
I'm hoping the final episode will do better than normal, just because of all the buzz that's been going around on its cancellation, and the fact that it's the series finale.

I think the final episode (what FOX is calling the finale) is actually best suited to be the show's finale. I just hope it isn't like a cliffhanger . . . if it was, FOX better have gone back and tied up the loose ends.

I'm wondering myself what will happen to those 4 unaired episodes. My guess is either FOX will burn them off someway in the summer, or they'll go straight to DVD.


The upfronts will be interesting to say the least. Steve Levitan said they would air the "final four" in the fall.

JulieSomoski
05-10-2008, 11:14 PM
The upfronts will be interesting to say the least. Steve Levitan said they would air the "final four" in the fall.

I doubt they'll air the final 4 at all. It would kind of be mean if they did, though. They'd air them, and then say "that's it." I thought for sure airing them in the fall would mean more new episodes would go along with them. I guess not.

I'm trying to create an online petition, but the thing's giving me trouble . . .

Brian Damage
05-10-2008, 11:16 PM
I doubt they'll air the final 4 at all. It would kind of be mean if they did, though. They'd air them, and then say "that's it." I thought for sure airing them in the fall would mean more new episodes would go along with them. I guess not.

I'm trying to create an online petition, but the thing's giving me trouble . . .


I have no idea how to create those things. Let me search around and see if there is one already created.

samanddiane4eva
05-10-2008, 11:17 PM
We might have a ray of hope. Nikki Finke is saying that it's being shopped to other networks.

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-fox-picks-up-toon/

JulieSomoski
05-10-2008, 11:25 PM
That's what I was saying with my CBS theory before. If they pick it up, they would the absolute network for sitcoms. I'm fairly sure NBC wouldn't want it - where would they put it? ABC may be interested. It could go well with According to Jim. You just never know at this point, although I am getting even higher hopes that this show isn't over yet.

Brian, if you could find a petition or even create one, I'd appreciate it. I'm over at petitiononline.com waiting for an email confirmation, and I'm not getting one.

Family Ties Forever!
05-10-2008, 11:38 PM
I don't know how to make one, but I would be glad to sign a BTY petition. It would be great if BTY was brought back. I've never seen the show Til Death.

Brian Damage
05-10-2008, 11:39 PM
We might have a ray of hope. Nikki Finke is saying that it's being shopped to other networks.

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/primetime-pilot-panic-fox-picks-up-toon/


At this point, I'll take a mid season replacement on My Network TV! :lol:

JulieSomoski
05-10-2008, 11:41 PM
At this point, I'll take a mid season replacement on My Network TV! :lol:

I'd be more than happy with that-LOL.

I've really got to get to bed-LOL. I'll leave my email up, check back later. I really want to get this petition up before it's too late. We've really got to advertise the hell out of that thing before Thursday.

Brian Damage
05-10-2008, 11:45 PM
Brian, if you could find a petition or even create one, I'd appreciate it. I'm over at petitiononline.com waiting for an email confirmation, and I'm not getting one.

http://www.petitionspot.com/signature/back2useason2

Family Ties Forever!
05-10-2008, 11:55 PM
I signed the petition.

Brian Damage
05-11-2008, 12:01 AM
I signed the petition.


W00t! Thank YOU!!!

Janice
05-11-2008, 12:09 AM
I signed it!

ryan423
05-11-2008, 12:10 AM
W00t! Thank YOU!!!
I've signed it as well. I actually rather have another network pick it up. If it were on the CW, it would be the biggest show they've ever had. They also dont have 1 new sitcom pilot for next year. Not that I like the CW but I think if it were picked up by them, it would be on for quite some time since they could never pull in those ratings. I'd love NBC, ABC or CBS to pick it up as well. If having it on FOX is what we can get if we even get a miracle, fine.

Brian Damage
05-11-2008, 12:11 AM
I signed it!


Janice, you are the BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brian Damage
05-11-2008, 12:14 AM
I've signed it as well. I actually rather have another network pick it up. If it were on the CW, it would be the biggest show they've ever had. They also dont have 1 new sitcom pilot for next year. Not that I like the CW but I think if it were picked up by them, it would be on for quite some time since they could never pull in those ratings. I'd love NBC, ABC or CBS to pick it up as well. If having it on FOX is what we can get if we even get a miracle, fine.


First of all, THANK YOU! Secondly, I have every intention on sending this to every network. :woohoo:

Please tell your friends and your family to sign the petition, even if they aren't fans...(yet) :lol:

Pavan
05-11-2008, 12:14 AM
If Fox airs the four unaired ones, they should do it right away...but it seems unlikely as Fox has a reality filled summer planned. I bet if the four do air, they'll burn them for like 2 weeks on a Sunday from 7-8pm.

And yes it is being shopped around, but it seems very unlikely it'll meet the price of other networks. CBS couldn't afford it back then. They also have a few strong ones in development already. ABC was the other network battling with Fox for this show, but now ABC is going to get Scrubs and possibly Old Christine, if CBS cans it. Not to mention they are high on the Alicia Silverstone/Megan Mullally sitcom. This will never happen, but The CW is giving MRC the Sunday block to program, and they will program 2 sitcoms and 2 dramas from 7-11pm on Sundays. That would be interesting if BTY would go there, but highly unlikely due to the price. They'll need to cut costs big time. Just a suggestion if fans want to take it to MRC.

ryan423
05-11-2008, 12:45 AM
If Fox airs the four unaired ones, they should do it right away...but it seems unlikely as Fox has a reality filled summer planned. I bet if the four do air, they'll burn them for like 2 weeks on a Sunday from 7-8pm.

And yes it is being shopped around, but it seems very unlikely it'll meet the price of other networks. CBS couldn't afford it back then. They also have a few strong ones in development already. ABC was the other network battling with Fox for this show, but now ABC is going to get Scrubs and possibly Old Christine, if CBS cans it. Not to mention they are high on the Alicia Silverstone/Megan Mullally sitcom. This will never happen, but The CW is giving MRC the Sunday block to program, and they will program 2 sitcoms and 2 dramas from 7-11pm on Sundays. That would be interesting if BTY would go there, but highly unlikely due to the price. They'll need to cut costs big time. Just a suggestion if fans want to take it to MRC.

Pavan, if this is truely the end, do you think we'll see a dvd release? I know I keep comparing them but Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip, the short-lived Matthew Perry drama that aired on NBC during the 2006-2007 schedule was NBC's most expensive shows last year. After being cancelled, WB gave it a complete series dvd release since the show had such high costs. Do you think we could recieve a proper dvd release? Word was from someone here on the board that went to a taping that said they were filming extras for a possible dvd release but that was before the cancellation news came to be.

Skywalker
05-11-2008, 01:13 AM
Well, I can't say I'm surprised. Afterall, this is the same network that cancelled Arrested Development. It really pisses me off though. :mad: I think I'm pretty much done with FOX now. With the exception of baseball and football, I won't be watching anything on FOX next season. To hell with them! Funny thing is I was actually starting to enjoy Til Death a little bit, but now that BTY is cancelled, what's the point in watching it? Oh and that show The Inn or whatever it's called, probably won't even last as long as BTY did. :rolleyes:

It is good to hear that it's being shopped around to other networks. I hope and pray CBS will pick it up though it's probably a long shot. I believe it's the only network that would give this show a real chance. Put it on at 9:30 after 2 1/2 Men. There's no way BTY could do any worse than the other sitcoms that have aired in that time slot the past few years.

Sonia
05-11-2008, 08:18 AM
If Fox airs the four unaired ones, they should do it right away...but it seems unlikely as Fox has a reality filled summer planned. I bet if the four do air, they'll burn them for like 2 weeks on a Sunday from 7-8pm.

And yes it is being shopped around, but it seems very unlikely it'll meet the price of other networks. CBS couldn't afford it back then. They also have a few strong ones in development already. ABC was the other network battling with Fox for this show, but now ABC is going to get Scrubs and possibly Old Christine, if CBS cans it. Not to mention they are high on the Alicia Silverstone/Megan Mullally sitcom. This will never happen, but The CW is giving MRC the Sunday block to program, and they will program 2 sitcoms and 2 dramas from 7-11pm on Sundays. That would be interesting if BTY would go there, but highly unlikely due to the price. They'll need to cut costs big time. Just a suggestion if fans want to take it to MRC.

They might work out a deal with ABC and agree on lower production costs for the 1 season. CBS is already over crowded and NBC had some kind of altercation with Grammer concerning Frasier so I doubt there's a chance there.

TJL
05-11-2008, 09:23 AM
Well, I am also upset that BTY was canned, but I can't say I am surprised.

This is FOX we're talking about.

As roseanne88-97 pointed out a few pages ago, the writer's strike hurt the show's momentum. The strike did that for a lot of new shows on other networks as well.

But FOX should have had more patience and respect for BTY, considering the star power in front and behind the cameras - they deserved another season to win back viewers and get on track.

But as i said this is FOX: if a show isn't #1 instantly, it's gone.

tbswatcher
05-11-2008, 10:16 AM
I signed the petition. We should try what Jericho fans did. Sure they only got one more season out of it but, that would be better than nothing.

Sonia
05-11-2008, 10:31 AM
The fact that BTY is being shopped elsewhere means that the producers have given up hope that Fox might change their mind. My hopes were for ABC but I read that they may renew Miss-guided. Let's wait and see. I don't know whether they're considering cable at all, something like showtime, USA or TNT. Also, both Kelsey and Patty own production companies so they may join forces with Levitan's company and produce the show themselves. Of course that may mean a drop in salaries but if they have faith in the show they may be willing to take that risk and perhaps ABC or someother network may give them a chance.

I hate the fact that Fox waited until the last minute to let them know. That leaves them absolutely no time to negotiate. Upfronts are next week and most networks have already made their decisions....

Pavan
05-11-2008, 12:25 PM
Having it on NBC is like a no chance. The CW would have a better chance then them. NBC is in terrible shape and cutting costs left and right. CBS or ABC is the only way to go, but seems unlikely. The MRC block on The CW is another option.
An online petition probably wouldn't cut it for Fox to bring it back. Something more creative is needed. Jericho fans sent CBS nuts. MEN IN TREES fans made a campaign to save trees. October Road fans created a campaign for local libraries (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2008/04/married-with-children-coming-to-spike.html). Something like that. All of those caught the networks' attention.

JulieSomoski
05-11-2008, 12:50 PM
Having it on NBC is like a no chance. The CW would have a better chance then them. NBC is in terrible shape and cutting costs left and right. CBS or ABC is the only way to go, but seems unlikely. The MRC block on The CW is another option.
An online petition probably wouldn't cut it for Fox to bring it back. Something more creative is needed. Jericho fans sent CBS nuts. MEN IN TREES fans made a campaign to save trees. October Road fans created a campaign for local libraries (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2008/04/married-with-children-coming-to-spike.html). Something like that. All of those caught the networks' attention.

Do you have a more creative suggestion? We could create some kind of campaign revolving around something having to do with the newsroom. That would be really tough, though. I'm not too creative of a person-LOL

I'd love to see another network go for this show. CBS would be our best bet. ABC would be okay though, too. IF they would have a solid sitcom block and BTY was a part of it, this show would get far more exposure. I'd absolutely love to see the CW go for it, though. It would be a ratings breakthrough for the network.

Sonia
05-11-2008, 12:56 PM
I read that Josh Gad is getting married today. I'd guess all the cast and writers would be at his wedding. Man, that's tough!!!!

JulieSomoski
05-11-2008, 01:00 PM
I read that Josh Gad is getting married today. I'd guess all the cast and writers would be at his wedding. Man, that's tough!!!!

God that must be tough for him. He just heard his show's cancelled, now he has to get married . . .

Sonia
05-11-2008, 01:34 PM
Having it on NBC is like a no chance. The CW would have a better chance then them. NBC is in terrible shape and cutting costs left and right. CBS or ABC is the only way to go, but seems unlikely. The MRC block on The CW is another option.
An online petition probably wouldn't cut it for Fox to bring it back. Something more creative is needed. Jericho fans sent CBS nuts. MEN IN TREES fans made a campaign to save trees. October Road fans created a campaign for local libraries (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2008/04/married-with-children-coming-to-spike.html). Something like that. All of those caught the networks' attention.

Let's send unsharpend pencils!!!
or, they used to have a "Anchorize Yourself" page. Everyone can paste their own pictures there, print it out and send it to FOX and 20th Century Fox.

icecream
05-12-2008, 11:12 AM
FOX sucks. Most of the shows I've liked on this network have been cancelled way too soon.
Back to You
Justice
Greed
Beyond Belief: Fact or Fiction?
Guiness World Records Primetime

waichingliu81
05-12-2008, 05:22 PM
it was only last year that here in the UK, channel four had bought the rights to back to you and for it to be shown on tv :eek: . hell, this news is just as shocking, seeing as it is about to debut later on this year

Dr. Thong
05-12-2008, 06:19 PM
Ratings or not, Til Death is a crappy show.

Back To You didn't even have the benefit of a full season, due to the writers strike. The show was finally beginning to gel...and now it's cancelled, thank FOX very much.:rolleyes:

Benno123
05-12-2008, 06:26 PM
The one current show on TV that I watch, except for The Office, and this is what happens. Go figure ...... too bad because I really enjoyed this series a lot.

Dr. Thong
05-12-2008, 06:31 PM
I have come to the decision that I am not going to watch any new show in its first season. If it gets renewed for a second season, I'll watch summer reruns, rent the DVDs or just figure it out as I go along when I start the second season.

JulieSomoski
05-12-2008, 06:33 PM
I definitely agree. Not one new sitcom sounds good, or even remotely watchable, next season. Even Big Bang Theory, which I used to be a huge fan of, is getting me bored. This show will definitely be a huge loss to television if it doesn't come back next season.

Dr. Thong
05-12-2008, 06:38 PM
I definitely agree. Not one new sitcom sounds good, or even remotely watchable, next season. Even Big Bang Theory, which I used to be a huge fan of, is getting me bored. This show will definitely be a huge loss to television if it doesn't come back next season.

Meanwhile, Til Death, which I gave a few episodes before finally and utterly deciding it was crap, is going on to its third season.:rolleyes:

I think Krusty The Klown is right about Fox when he disses them.

Mr. Television
05-12-2008, 06:45 PM
Its like when they cancelled Titus, one of the truly great sitcoms they had. They were telling them what to do with storylines before they axed that show too. Fox is run by idiots. The only shows I watch on it now are 24 and Bones and every year they threaten to send Bones to the Friday night death slot. :rolleyes:

Brent88
05-12-2008, 07:14 PM
Apparently, CBS is really interested(per several sources, one says the showrunner has delivered episodes to CBS bosses) but I'm still skeptical especially considering CBS has a lot of sitcoms already and a couple will be new in the fall. I do think it would fit better on CBS than it did on FOX but I think it should have picked up there from the start.

Sonia
05-12-2008, 07:47 PM
Apparently, CBS is really interested(per several sources, one says the showrunner has delivered episodes to CBS bosses) but I'm still skeptical especially considering CBS has a lot of sitcoms already and a couple will be new in the fall. I do think it would fit better on CBS than it did on FOX but I think it should have picked up there from the start.

We know it's a long shot but HOPE is the last to die. Now if you want to help you know what to do ... ifs and buts are just time wasting!

JulieSomoski
05-12-2008, 08:00 PM
Apparently, CBS is really interested(per several sources, one says the showrunner has delivered episodes to CBS bosses) but I'm still skeptical especially considering CBS has a lot of sitcoms already and a couple will be new in the fall. I do think it would fit better on CBS than it did on FOX but I think it should have picked up there from the start.

I don't understand why CBS backed down from this in the first place. They obviously know they can do wonders with this show if they do pick it up.

Sonia
05-12-2008, 08:10 PM
I don't understand why CBS backed down from this in the first place. They obviously know they can do wonders with this show if they do pick it up.

CBS didn't back down. As Levitan said FOX really persuaded them and fought really hard to get the show giving them the best deal (13 episode committment) and many promises they never kept!

Brian Damage
05-12-2008, 08:17 PM
We know it's a long shot but HOPE is the last to die. Now if you want to help you know what to do ... ifs and buts are just time wasting!


Here Here!

Do we have an email address for Nina Tassler (CBS President)?