Once Viewers saw that Keith who was about to go to the NFL had to live with the Evans after injuring his leg after the wedding. I know whoever was still watching at this point just said-"THE HELL WITH THIS SHOW AND IT"S LACK OF IMPROVEMENT FOR THE EVANS FAMILY"

I think the viewers already knew the Evans living in the projects was not going to change with the addition of Keith. There had to be some news either in TVGuide or some other publication talking abt the new season. I wasn't shocked when they remained in the projects.

I think the viewers already knew the Evans living in the projects was not going to change with the addition of Keith. There had to be some news either in TVGuide or some other publication talking abt the new season. I wasn't shocked when they remained in the projects.


But they started off that season in a worst situation than season 5 since it was 5 people in the house with only 1 Working. Unlike season 5 where it was 3 people in the household and 2 working

Believe me, the amount of people working had nothing to do with the ratings and how people reacted to the show. :lol: Remember, the family did financially better AFTER James died, but the ratings started to plummet and the ratings went down further when Esther Rolle left. Even with her return, the show was no longer a strong show. Who knows what other reasons the ratings went down. It could be a change in schedule, it could be other hit shows airing at the same time, etc. I do know the amount of people NOT working in the Evans house had absolutely nothing to do with ratings.

Believe me, the amount of people working had nothing to do with the ratings and how people reacted to the show. :lol: Remember, the family did financially better AFTER James died, but the ratings started to plummet and the ratings went down further when Esther Rolle left. Even with her return, the show was no longer a strong show. Who knows what other reasons the ratings went down. It could be a change in schedule, it could be other hit shows airing at the same time, etc. I do know the amount of people NOT working in the Evans house had absolutely nothing to do with ratings.


I'm sure it had a lot to do wih viewers tired of seeing a struggling black family that looked as if it was never going to change so that's when people probably bailed

But that is the point, they knew that before the new season started. I am sure TVGuide or some other publication told the viewers this information BEFOREHAND. I recall reading TVGuide and getting some information abt the new season and what would happen on the shows I liked. I am not saying they went into detail abt Keith's injury, but they would mention something. The last season was already bad and people got tired of not having Esther Rolle and the lame stories. By this point, nothing would save the show.

But that is the point, they knew that before the new season started. I am sure TVGuide or some other publication told the viewers this information BEFOREHAND. I recall reading TVGuide and getting some information abt the new season and what would happen on the shows I liked. I am not saying they went into detail abt Keith's injury, but they would mention something. The last season was already bad and people got tired of not having Esther Rolle and the lame stories. By this point, nothing would save the show.


I'm trying to imagine myself getting ready to watch Good Times in the fall of 78 after reading all summer about the return of esther rolle and to see after a beautiful wedding how things got bad for the evans again I would have just watched Rhoda at 8pm on Saturday Nights instead-lol

Who would break their leg like that anyway? If Keith had tripped over JJ and fallen down a flight of stairs, I would've bought the fact that he broke his leg. What a stupid plot device. :rolleyes:

Who would break their leg like that anyway? If Keith had tripped over JJ and fallen down a flight of stairs, I would've bought the fact that he broke his leg. What a stupid plot device. :rolleyes:
I know. :crazy:

The viewers did not expect to see the Evans move on ahead financially. They thought a new character might help the show, but they knew this wasn't the case with Penny and it sure as heck would not help with Keith. They wanted Esther and John together.

Besides, what other shows aired at the same time as GT in season 6? That had to play a major part as well in the ratings being low.

I know. :crazy:

The viewers did not expect to see the Evans move on ahead financially. They thought a new character might help the show, but they knew this wasn't the case with Penny and it sure as heck would not help with Keith. They wanted Esther and John together.

Besides, what other shows aired at the same time as GT in season 6? That had to play a major part as well in the ratings being low.


Not true, black viewers wanted to see the family improve in all areas and that was always a problem that it never happend. That's the main issue black leaders had with the show


Chips aired at the same time as Good Times

Not true, black viewers wanted to see the family improve in all areas and that was always a problem that it never happend. That's the main issue black leaders had with the show


Chips aired at the same time as Good Times
No, what I meant was before the new season started, the viewers had a heads up abt the whole season of GT. They knew the family was still going to be seen in the ghetto and having tough times but this time around, they would have another character, Keith. That is what I meant abt the viewers not expecting the family to succeed. They knew it was another season in the ghetto.

CHiPs. That explains it right there. That was a hot show and people were tuning into that show.

Things went downhill after season five and I think that things continued to spiral from there.

Things went downhill after season five and I think that things continued to spiral from there.
Things were no longer the same. People missed the original GT and other hit shows on other networks were taking the viewers away.

No, what I meant was before the new season started, the viewers had a heads up abt the whole season of GT. They knew the family was still going to be seen in the ghetto and having tough times but this time around, they would have another character, Keith. That is what I meant abt the viewers not expecting the family to succeed. They knew it was another season in the ghetto.

CHiPs. That explains it right there. That was a hot show and people were tuning into that show.


My mom actually stopped watching after James died so when she sees Keith and Penny she knows she had stopperd watching it. She only watched the show when it was on Tuesday nights(1974-75)

Things were no longer the same. People missed the original GT and other hit shows on other networks were taking the viewers away.
Times had changed, for sure. I actually like both the James and post-James eras, but things were getting stale by the end.

Times had changed, for sure. I actually like both the James and post-James eras, but things were getting stale by the end.


Indeed it was, Bookman, Penny and Keith couldn't make up for James.

Here's how I see it. Good Times was a great show. When James left, it was barely watchable, to me. After Florida left, it was a complete joke, a disaster. Did the ratings reflect this downslide?

A fantastic show with a full family intact, destroyed over a funny character with a stupid catchphrase, DYNOMITE. It was such a shame and one of the worst destructions ever of a great show. Try to imagine if the character of JJ didn't take off as it did. Such a shame. The chemistry between James and Florida was wonderful. I love those first couple of seasons.

Florida on the show equaled depth to me. Having J.J. on the show alone was like having too much dessert. You get sick if you eat too much and you don't have a balanced meal.

Here's how I see it. Good Times was a great show. When James left, it was barely watchable, to me. After Florida left, it was a complete joke, a disaster. Did the ratings reflect this downslide?

A fantastic show with a full family intact, destroyed over a funny character with a stupid catchphrase, DYNOMITE. It was such a shame and one of the worst destructions ever of a great show. Try to imagine if the character of JJ didn't take off as it did. Such a shame. The chemistry between James and Florida was wonderful. I love those first couple of seasons.


Well said Janice, the first two seasons are by FAR the best.

Well said Janice, the first two seasons are by FAR the best.
Especially the Dinner Party episode. :rofl:

Especially the Dinner Party episode. :rofl:


:rofl:

:rofl:
"The Lord is my German Shepherd..." :brent

"The Lord is my German Shepherd..." :brent


:lol:

Gerdie: "If my meatloaf isn't served, I won't stay for dinner"

JJ: "Bye"

^ The sexual behavior in the ghetto episode is a classic, too. :rofl: Phillip Michael Thomas played Thelma's boyfriend in that one.

:lol:

Gerdie: "If my meatloaf isn't served, I won't stay for dinner"

JJ: "Bye"
Those two lines by J.J. are by far the funniest:

THE LORD IS MY GERMAN SHEPARD

and

BYE :brent

I liked the way that J.J. said it: Sexual behavior in thee Ghe-to. LOL.

The show should have focused more on James and J.J rather than just J.J.

The show should have focused more on James and J.J rather than just J.J.
:yeahthat The way James and Junior played off each other was a scream. :rofl:

I liked the camera focusing on James' tight pants. ;)

I liked the camera focusing on James' tight pants. ;)


:rolleyes: Here we go again. That dirty dirty!:lol:

:rolleyes: Here we go again. That dirty dirty!:lol:
:grineyes: :lol:

I liked the camera focusing on James' tight pants. ;)
I knew you were going to say that at some point. :lol:

I knew you were going to say that at some point. :lol:
You know me too well. ;)

You know me too well. ;)
:rofl:

My mom actually stopped watching after James died so when she sees Keith and Penny she knows she had stopperd watching it. She only watched the show when it was on Tuesday nights(1974-75)


My mom said the same thing, that she stopped watching once John left the show. John was the true star of GT

John got the last laugh. He still has a career and has worked hard.

Mr. Norman Lear needs to go ahead and admit that he made a mistake. He did.

Mr. Norman Lear needs to go ahead and admit that he made a mistake. He did.


I was surprised they got back together in 94

I was surprised they got back together in 94
At least those two made amends - I don't think Mr. Lear ever reconciled with Carroll O'Connor. :(

Me too Solomon. I was surprised. After I learned about all the bad blood between them. Mr. Lear owed John if you ask me.

We had a blast on the Tan Pants thread two years ago. :lol:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=170404&highlight=tan+pants

We had a blast on the Tan Pants thread two years ago. :lol:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=170404&highlight=tan+pants
THAT is one of thee most memorable S.O. moments ever!!!!!! I never forget it. :lol: :rofl: :brent

We had a blast on the Tan Pants thread two years ago. :lol:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=170404&highlight=tan+pants


Oh the memories, I miss those days. Back then the GT board was ROCKIN' :lol:

Oh the memories, I miss those days. Back then the GT board was ROCKIN' :lol:
It was rockin' most definitely!!!:cool: Everyone was posting on that board back then. GT was hot on TVland and we would find so many things to chat abt. :lol:

It was rockin' most definitely!!!:cool: Everyone was posting on that board back then. GT was hot on TVland and we would find so many things to chat abt. :lol:
John Amos was a very handsome man, who has held up very well for his age. He's probably around 70 by now, right?

It was rockin' most definitely!!!:cool: Everyone was posting on that board back then. GT was hot on TVland and we would find so many things to chat abt. :lol:


It's hard to believe that, that thread was started 2 years ago. Where has the time gone?

John Amos was a very handsome man, who has held up very well for his age. He's probably around 70 by now, right?
Yep. And he is definitely looking good despite the fact. ;) :D

Yep. And he is definitely looking good despite the fact. ;) :D
We should all be so blessed to age so gracefully.

It's hard to believe that, that thread was started 2 years ago. Where has the time gone?
I haven't a clue. Damn, time does pass by when you are having fun. And fun we had on that board. :lol:

THAT is one of thee most memorable S.O. moments ever!!!!!! I never forget it. :lol: :rofl: :brent
I just sent you an e-mail, Irene. :)

Oh the memories, I miss those days. Back then the GT board was ROCKIN' :lol:
It sure was, and James didn't even need his tan pants to be sexy!

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/attachment.php?attachmentid=108577&stc=1&d=1145763506

^^^^^^^:grineyes: I missed that post last night. I logged off after I made my post. :lol: NICE PIC!!!!!

Okay, we don't need to be into Florida and James' business. LOL. They be getting wild. LOL. What movie iss this pic from?

Okay, we don't need to be into Florida and James' business. LOL. They be getting wild. LOL. What movie iss this pic from?
:rofl:

Movie??? It is the episode where Michael gets bussed to the white school. J.J. discovers Michael is not in bed and he assumes he ran away. He goes to the parents' room to tell them and Florida flips. :lol:

The plots became so lame and unrealistic. Here are some of them:
When Penny was abused by her birth mother. When Wilona brought Penny in the doctor he should had immediately reported this to CPS. Today that would had been immediately reported.

When Carl's doctor told Bookman about his illness. That was so unrealistic and maddening to watch. I cannot watch that episode with any objectivity because it happened to me when I was violated in that manner by a former employer.