Brian can't seem to grasp that because he's too busy tossing everyone he has a vendetta against into a group of lowlifes who plan coordinated "attacks" on his forums. :rolleyes:
MMMMMMMMMMM WHATCHA SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY

Never called anyone names. Just chatting. Are all of you this sensitive?
No, just very defensive of friends.

Sorry Ashlee, I'm not referring to you, as much as you obviously want it to be true, it's not.
I'm not even sure what you mean by this?

Never called anyone names. Just chatting. Are all of you this sensitive?
No, none of us are "sensitive"

No, just very defensive of friends.


Same here Ashlee.

No, just very defensive of friends.
Yup

Same here Ashlee.
Yet I see nobody attacking them personally in this thread besides just a couple of people.

Sensitive? We're being called out and accused things by A RESPECTED MODERATOR at these boards. I think that's worthy of concern considering we were never treated this way before the past year or so. It's like it all happened overnight.

Dang, everyone jumped right in on this discussion. LOL I really wasn't gonna say anything more, but there's one thing I want to say and make clear.. there have been things done and said by people I'm friends with that I don't approve of. But we're not all the same person. We've all made our mistakes, as individuals, and yes, we could rehash those events and have them thrown in our faces, but in reality, that's not the issue that should be at hand. This thread is not about that. The issue I have is that a group of people was attacked because of something ONE person said, but right now we are discussing mistakes made in the past, when the truth is, the people were dealt with appropriately. Suspensions were made and warnings were handed out, as they should have been. Recently TJ made a post about not running people off this board, yet here Brian is trying to do just that, attacking a group of people in a thread that I feel respect was otherwise shown in. And THAT'S what I view as wrong about this picture, because we can go over and over problems had in the past, but what difference does it make? It's water under the bridge now. People need to let their vendetta go to keep the peace here. I think this thread was going fine up until today. Like someone here said, you can keep pulling stuff like this, but pretty soon you'll have run what's left of this board off with your attitude and name-calling. And yes, calling a group ''Smurfwhiners'' is inappropriate. If you have an issue with a person, fine, report them, but don't try and diss an ENTIRE group and then justify it by past actions because you have a personal vendetta. Two wrongs don't make a right, do they? Not ALL of us approve of what was said or done by one or two people. You can't justify egging people on the way Brian did when everyone was trying to have a respectful, normal discussion. Again, if you wanted to report Jackie for saying SO sucks, then go ahead and do so.. but don't start crap back up with an entire group in this thread because of your own personal beef with us.

Dang, everyone jumped right in on this discussion. LOL I really wasn't gonna say anything more, but there's one thing I want to say and make clear.. there have been things done and said by people I'm friends with that I don't approve of. But we're not all the same person. We've all made our mistakes, as individuals, and yes, we could rehash those events and have them thrown in our faces, but in reality, that's not the issue that should be at hand. This thread is not about that. The issue I have is that a group of people was attacked because of something ONE person said, but right now we are discussing mistakes made in the past, when the truth is, the people were dealt with appropriately. Suspensions were made and warnings were handed out, as they should have been. Recently TJ made a post about not running people off this board, yet here Brian is trying to do just that, attacking a group of people in a thread that I feel respect was otherwise shown in. And THAT'S what I view as wrong about this picture, because we can go over and over problems had in the past, but what difference does it make? It's water under the bridge now. People need to let their vendetta go to keep the peace here. I think this thread was going fine up until today. Like someone here said, you can keep pulling stuff like this, but pretty soon you'll have run what's left of this board off with your attitude and name-calling. And yes, calling a group ''Smurfwhiners'' is inappropriate. If you have an issue with a person, fine, report them, but don't try and diss an ENTIRE group and then justify it by past actions because you have a personal vendetta. Two wrongs don't make a right, do they? Not ALL of us approve of what was said or done by one or two people. You can't justify egging people on the way Brian did when everyone was trying to have a respectful, normal discussion. Again, if you wanted to report Jackie for saying SO sucks, then go ahead and do so.. but don't start crap back up with an entire group in this thread because of your own personal beef with us.
:clap

Dang, everyone jumped right in on this discussion. LOL I really wasn't gonna say anything more, but there's one thing I want to say and make clear.. there have been things done and said by people I'm friends with that I don't approve of. But we're not all the same person. We've all made our mistakes, as individuals, and yes, we could rehash those events and have them thrown in our faces, but in reality, that's not the issue that should be at hand. This thread is not about that. The issue I have is that a group of people was attacked because of something ONE person said, but right now we are discussing mistakes made in the past, when the truth is, the people were dealt with appropriately. Suspensions were made and warnings were handed out, as they should have been. Recently TJ made a post about not running people off this board, yet here Brian is trying to do just that, attacking a group of people in a thread that I feel respect was otherwise shown in. And THAT'S what I view as wrong about this picture, because we can go over and over problems had in the past, but what difference does it make? It's water under the bridge now. People need to let their vendetta go to keep the peace here. I think this thread was going fine up until today. Like someone here said, you can keep pulling stuff like this, but pretty soon you'll have run what's left of this board off with your attitude and name-calling. And yes, calling a group ''Smurfwhiners'' is inappropriate. If you have an issue with a person, fine, report them, but don't try and diss an ENTIRE group and then justify it by past actions because you have a personal vendetta. Two wrongs don't make a right, do they? Not ALL of us approve of what was said or done by one or two people. You can't justify egging people on the way Brian did when everyone was trying to have a respectful, normal discussion. Again, if you wanted to report Jackie for saying SO sucks, then go ahead and do so.. but don't start crap back up with an entire group in this thread because of your own personal beef with us.:clap :clap :clap :clap :clap

Dang, everyone jumped right in on this discussion. LOL I really wasn't gonna say anything more, but there's one thing I want to say and make clear.. there have been things done and said by people I'm friends with that I don't approve of. But we're not all the same person. We've all made our mistakes, as individuals, and yes, we could rehash those events and have them thrown in our faces, but in reality, that's not the issue that should be at hand. This thread is not about that. The issue I have is that a group of people was attacked because of something ONE person said, but right now we are discussing mistakes made in the past, when the truth is, the people were dealt with appropriately. Suspensions were made and warnings were handed out, as they should have been. Recently TJ made a post about not running people off this board, yet here Brian is trying to do just that, attacking a group of people in a thread that I feel respect was otherwise shown in. And THAT'S what I view as wrong about this picture, because we can go over and over problems had in the past, but what difference does it make? It's water under the bridge now. People need to let their vendetta go to keep the peace here. I think this thread was going fine up until today. Like someone here said, you can keep pulling stuff like this, but pretty soon you'll have run what's left of this board off with your attitude and name-calling. And yes, calling a group ''Smurfwhiners'' is inappropriate. If you have an issue with a person, fine, report them, but don't try and diss an ENTIRE group and then justify it by past actions because you have a personal vendetta. Two wrongs don't make a right, do they? Not ALL of us approve of what was said or done by one or two people. You can't justify egging people on the way Brian did when everyone was trying to have a respectful, normal discussion. Again, if you wanted to report Jackie for saying SO sucks, then go ahead and do so.. but don't start crap back up with an entire group in this thread because of your own personal beef with us.

Couldn't agree more.

Sensitive? We're being called out and accused things by A RESPECTED MODERATOR at these boards. I think that's worthy of concern considering we were never treated this way before the past year or so. It's like it all happened overnight.
I agree. We may all have our differences in opinions of what was the best era of this board, which was the topic of discussion in here originally, but most importantly we should respect eachother. Name calling is never appropriate, nor is copping an attitude with someone just because YOU don't like them. You're just asking for trouble, especially right after there was a post made asking that we don't run members off. I'll admit I've made my mistakes, even recently, but I've been trying hard to make sure when I do post around here I treat people kindly and don't come in with some attitude.

Sensitive? We're being called out and accused things by A RESPECTED MODERATOR at these boards. I think that's worthy of concern considering we were never treated this way before the past year or so. It's like it all happened overnight.


LOL Can you be any more dramatic. The old moderator thrown in my face again. So tiresome. I don't moderate Chit Chat, and can't do a thing to anyone, not that I'd want to anyway. I'm still a member who can post. I took issue with Ravey constantly saying that SO sucks, and a conversation ensued. If you weren't involved in anything I mentioned, what's the problem. The things I mentioned are no big deal I'm told, but you sound like you're ready to call the cops over this thread. Too much. Toughen up. I always liked you, and have no problem with you. Hey, you guys are getting you've missed drama tonight. :lol:

LOL Can you be any more dramatic. The old moderator thrown in my face again. So tiresome. I don't moderate Chit Chat, and can't do a thing to anyone, not that I'd want to anyway. I'm still a member who can post. I took issue with Ravey constantly saying that SO sucks, and a conversation ensued. If you weren't involved in anything I mentioned, what's the problem. The things I mentioned are no big deal I'm told, but you sound like you're ready to call the cops over this thread. Too much. Toughen up. I always liked you, and have no problem with you. Hey, you guys are getting you've missed drama tonight. :lol:
Quite frankly, if you wanted to say something snarky back to Jackie after what she said, I'd be fine with that. When you make a statement like that, you're asking for it. You didn't say ''RaveyWhiney'', you said something that you knew was directed towards an entire group of people. What about that do you not understand?

LOL Can you be any more dramatic. The old moderator thrown in my face again. So tiresome. I don't moderate Chit Chat, and can't do a thing to anyone, not that I'd want to anyway. I'm still a member who can post. I took issue with Ravey constantly saying that SO sucks, and a conversation ensued. If you weren't involved in anything I mentioned, what's the problem. The things I mentioned are no big deal I'm told, but you sound like you're ready to call the cops over this thread. Too much. Toughen up. I always liked you, and have no problem with you. Hey, you guys are getting you've missed drama tonight. :lol:
According to you earlier your issue wasn't with Ravey, who I'm not exactly friends with anymore by the way, but with the "Smurfwhiners".

''RaveyWhiney''
Ditto the rest of that post, but that part LOL

LOL Can you be any more dramatic. The old moderator thrown in my face again. So tiresome. I don't moderate Chit Chat, and can't do a thing to anyone, not that I'd want to anyway. I'm still a member who can post. I took issue with Ravey constantly saying that SO sucks, and a conversation ensued. If you weren't involved in anything I mentioned, what's the problem. The things I mentioned are no big deal I'm told, but you sound like you're ready to call the cops over this thread. Too much. Toughen up. I always liked you, and have no problem with you. Hey, you guys are getting you've missed drama tonight. :lol:
lol hell yeah we are

but the problem we keep saying over and over again, Brian, is that you attacked a group of people over one or two people's actions. That's not fair. And you say you're not being disrespectful, yet you can't seem to respect any sort of nostalgia people have about the boards. That's all that's going on here. No one's passing out over it, we're just defending our point.

Dang, everyone jumped right in on this discussion. LOL I really wasn't gonna say anything more, but there's one thing I want to say and make clear.. there have been things done and said by people I'm friends with that I don't approve of. But we're not all the same person. We've all made our mistakes, as individuals, and yes, we could rehash those events and have them thrown in our faces, but in reality, that's not the issue that should be at hand. This thread is not about that. The issue I have is that a group of people was attacked because of something ONE person said, but right now we are discussing mistakes made in the past, when the truth is, the people were dealt with appropriately. Suspensions were made and warnings were handed out, as they should have been. Recently TJ made a post about not running people off this board, yet here Brian is trying to do just that, attacking a group of people in a thread that I feel respect was otherwise shown in. And THAT'S what I view as wrong about this picture, because we can go over and over problems had in the past, but what difference does it make? It's water under the bridge now. People need to let their vendetta go to keep the peace here. I think this thread was going fine up until today. Like someone here said, you can keep pulling stuff like this, but pretty soon you'll have run what's left of this board off with your attitude and name-calling. And yes, calling a group ''Smurfwhiners'' is inappropriate. If you have an issue with a person, fine, report them, but don't try and diss an ENTIRE group and then justify it by past actions because you have a personal vendetta. Two wrongs don't make a right, do they? Not ALL of us approve of what was said or done by one or two people. You can't justify egging people on the way Brian did when everyone was trying to have a respectful, normal discussion. Again, if you wanted to report Jackie for saying SO sucks, then go ahead and do so.. but don't start crap back up with an entire group in this thread because of your own personal beef with us.

Too long for me, but it's you guys who encourage the group image. Like I said, if I mentioned an issue that didn't concern you, THEN I DIDN'T MEAN YOU. Try to understand that. Everyone's taking my every word as if it's meant for them. It's not. Again, toughen up, and use paragraphs. I might have considered reading it had you used them. LOL

lol hell yeah we are

but the problem we keep saying over and over again, Brian, is that you attacked a group of people over one or two people's actions. That's not fair. And you say you're not being disrespecful, yet you can't seem to respect any sort of nostalgia people have about the boards. That's all that's going on here. No one's passing out over it, we're just defending our point.
:nod:

LOL Can you be any more dramatic. The old moderator thrown in my face again. So tiresome. I don't moderate Chit Chat, and can't do a thing to anyone, not that I'd want to anyway. I'm still a member who can post. I took issue with Ravey constantly saying that SO sucks, and a conversation ensued. If you weren't involved in anything I mentioned, what's the problem. The things I mentioned are no big deal I'm told, but you sound like you're ready to call the cops over this thread. Too much. Toughen up. I always liked you, and have no problem with you. Hey, you guys are getting you've missed drama tonight. :lol:
Sorry, but by calling out my group of friends, you're calling out ME. You involved all of us, we didn't.

And I wasn't mentioning that you're a moderator because you were doing anything wrong, I'm just saying that your word is respected and that's why it becomes a big deal. If you honestly believe all of that stuff and have such facts and proof, you must have some people in high places here that you're getting the information from unless you really did just fabricate it from complete assumptions.

I have no problem with you personally. I have a problem with your unnecessary grudge against me and my friends.

So know I know "WHAT HAS HAPPENED". Too bad. :)

Okay, before this thread floods with tears, I will amend one word. I'm officially changing Smurfwhiners to Raveywhiner. I'll even change it on my post.

Too long for me, but it's you guys who encourage the group image. Like I said, if I mentioned an issue that didn't concern you, THEN I DIDN'T MEAN YOU. Try to understand that. Everyone's taking my every word as if it's meant for them. It's not. Again, toughen up, and use paragraphs. I might have considered reading it had you used them. LOL
Why don't you just get real here.. you have a beef with our group, and you're using this as an excuse to let your hostility out. That's wrong. No one treated you with any kind of disrespect or unkindness. Also, you're the one who's being so dang serious about ''spam attacks'' and crap. And you're an adult arguing with a bunch of teenagers who have for the most part done nothing but have innocent fun, who you obviously hold some kind of anger and bitterness towards. Do you see anything wrong with this picture? Because I do. It's actually embarassing thinking you're some man who may have kids sitting here wetting yourself over ''message board spam'' and probably had a fit of anger over a thread made about pancake boats. I've tried my level best to treat you with respect, but it's hard when you want to present yourself in the manner you have.

So know I know "WHAT HAS HAPPENED". Too bad. :)
You said it!

Okay, before this thread floods with tears, I will amend one word. I'm officially changing Smurfwhiners to Raveywhiner. I'll even change it on my post.
Hey, thanks for recognizing that at least. That's appreciated.

Why don't you just get real here.. you have a beef with our group, and you're using this as an excuse to let your hostility out. That's wrong. No one treated you with any kind of disrespect or unkindness. Also, you're the one who's being so dang serious about ''spam attacks'' and crap. And you're an adult arguing with a bunch of teenagers who have for the most part done nothing but have innocent fun, who you obviously hold some kind of anger and bitterness towards. Do you see anything wrong with this picture? Because I do. It's actually embarassing thinking you're some man who may have kids sitting here wetting yourself over ''message board spam'' and probably had a fit of anger over a thread made about pancake boats. I've tried my level best to treat you with respect, but it's hard when you want to present yourself in the manner you have.
:nod: Ditto

Okay, before this thread floods with tears, I will amend one word. I'm officially changing Smurfwhiners to Raveywhiner. I'll even change it on my post.
I commend you for at least being mature enough to acknowledge that change should be made. That doesn't change the other comments you've made, but I think your feelings have been made more than clear.

Hey, thanks for recognizing that at least. That's appreciated.
Ditto

Too long for me, but it's you guys who encourage the group image. Like I said, if I mentioned an issue that didn't concern you, THEN I DIDN'T MEAN YOU. Try to understand that. Everyone's taking my every word as if it's meant for them. It's not. Again, toughen up, and use paragraphs. I might have considered reading it had you used them. LOL
How many times are you going to post that SO sucks? Members here got away with murder, and what went on wouldn't be tolerated for a minute at other sites, otherwise that's where your gang would be. Try going to a site and posting that it sucks. Wait, please don't go. You bring soooo much to the site. LOL. You hate it so much here, see ya. The Smurfwhiners.

If you're going to be so cynical, you should at least know who you're even talking about. This coming from the guy who is so sure we planned "attacks" on his message board. I guess you know nothing about that, either, right? You were just upset about something that happened in the past and blamed us, because of our "image", correct?

Okay, before this thread floods with tears, I will amend one word. I'm officially changing Smurfwhiners to Raveywhiner. I'll even change it on my post.

Tears? No man. This is what we were all like:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/kaostrify1313/MikeTenay1.jpg?t=1209357234

If you're going to be so cynical, you should at least know who you're even talking about. This coming from the guy who is so sure we planned "attacks" on his message board. I guess you know nothing about that, either, right? You were just upset about something that happened in the past and blamed us, because of our "image", correct?
That exactly proves my point. Jackie was just an excuse for him to basically tell our group to get the hell out (running people off the boards, much?). If it was a simple slip of the words, I wouldn't take issue with it. No one in our group besides Jackie said the boards ''suck'' now. We may have said we preferred it in past years, but that's two very different things.

If you're going to be so cynical, you should at least know who you're even talking about. This coming from the guy who is so sure we planned "attacks" on his message board. I guess you know nothing about that, either, right? You were just upset about something that happened in the past and blamed us, because of our "image", correct?
:nod:

Tears? No man. This is what we were all like:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/kaostrify1313/MikeTenay1.jpg?t=1209357234
wtf? :lol:

Tears? No man. This is what we were all like:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/kaostrify1313/MikeTenay1.jpg?t=1209357234
LMAO what the.

Uhh I only said SO sucked ONCE, MAYBE TWICE.

Uhh I only said SO sucked ONCE, MAYBE TWICE.
Somehow I doubt it's really the fact you said SO sucked that is what fired him up. This was just an opening for him to start badmouthing our group. If that wasn't true, he'd have made his argument completely about you, not our group. And it wasn't a simple word slip-up, he stated over and over that it was our group as a whole.

Somehow I doubt it's really the fact you said SO sucked that is what fired him up. This was just an opening for him to start badmouthing our group. If that wasn't true, he'd have made his argument completely about you, not our group. And it wasn't a simple word slip-up, he stated over and over that it was our group as a whole.
Exactly. I hate how all of a sudden he's acting like this whole time he was talking about a guy here or a guy there now that we've been talking about it, but he approached the situation as if each and every one of us were responsible for EVERYTHING, and even went so far as to say he was glad "WE" didn't post here anymore and that our glory days were long gone.

I mean, come on. If you have a problem with us, you have a problem with us...But at least have the guts to stick with what you've already said instead of hitting the panic button and going for damage control.

Exactly. I hate how all of a sudden he's acting like this whole time he was talking about a guy here or a guy there now that we've been talking about it, but he approached the situation as if each and every one of us were responsible for EVERYTHING, and even went so far as to say he was glad "WE" didn't post here anymore and that our glory days were long gone.

I mean, come on. If you have a problem with us, you have a problem with us...But at least have the guts to stick with what you've already said instead of hitting the panic button and going for damage control.
I completely agree. The quotes are there for all to see, and it's clear as could be what he meant.

:nod:


Do you ever have your own opinion?

Never called anyone names. Just chatting. Are all of you this sensitive?
calling them "smurfwhiners" isn't calling them names?

calling them "smurfwhiners" isn't calling them names?
Guess not in his books.

Not even gonna go there when he referenced our group to washed-up one-hit wonders. :grady:

I have no problem with you guys, you just do your own thing and that's fine. It's things like this that I have a problem with:

WHY has Katie been rolling her eyes everytime I make a post in that thread?
And why is it whenever I make a thread or post it is IGNORED most of the time?


Certain people making threads saying "I just posted a new thread, please come post in it!" or "I just posted a new thread, how come no one has posted in it?" I mean, come on now, grow up! Desperate pleas for attention are just annoying, I'm sorry.

Do you ever have your own opinion?
Back off, the guy is just being a friend.

Back off, the guy is just being a friend.

It was just a question, no need to get all defensive.

It was just a question, no need to get all defensive.
Oh, ok. :)

Anyway, not sure what Jack has to do with anything in here, but be easy on the guy. He's been here as long as just about anybody. He's genuinely one of the nicest guys around here and I don't think it's right to call him out on things like that. He's been a friend of mine for 6 years, and was one of my first online friends.

You know, I'm not really attached to these boards and while I'm friends with some of the members here, I don't really know of the golden things these guys speak of cause I was gone for the golden year that I always hear mentioned. However what I find funny is that you reply saying that Janice stopped the gangups and 20 page threads ripping people to shreds. What are you doing right now? You're ripping people to shreds. You're ripping on people who are respected members of the board. Are you? I've seen you around so I'd say you're pretty respected. If no one else thinks that anyone did was funny then so what? It's all water under the bridge now and this thread has only mentioned memories, can't people reminisce about the old days? Guess not because if we do then it's considered complaining about how bad the board is now. Yet you continue to bring up the past and rip people to shreds. If this thread annoys you this badly, then why even respond? You're only furthering the fire.

If one person said something about SO being crappy now then like Ashlee said, it's one person. Not everyone feels like that. You can't point out that everyone said that when most were bringing up memories. There is nothing wrong with that, there is however something wrong with you ripping into people especially when you said that the people who were here for drama and fights left. Why even try to start fights? This isn't a discussion and this post I quoted is evident, this is a flame on people.

This is what TJ posted:

"Anyone who is found having any participation in running members off my site will be banned. This is my site, and members are guests here."

You are not treating people like guests. People replied in kindness to you at first and you egged them on. You are not treating anyone like a guest. This is not a discussion by you but more like a put down to anyone of us. Nothing personal, I don't even know you but that's the way I see it.
lolz, i know this isn't the first time he's done this.
i'm not in this 'group' being referred to, but i like them all and this isn't fair to them.

lolz, i know this isn't the first time he's done this.
i'm not in this 'group' being referred to, but i like them all and this isn't fair to them.
I'm glad someone who isn't a frequent poster in our group is saying that. :lol: It's just nice to hear someone who isn't at all bias admitting that it really isn't fair treatment for him to get away with acting like this towards people. Anyhow, you're one of my favorite members here because when I think of SO.. I think of all your epic posts and threads. So I appreciate you saying that.

I'm glad someone who isn't a frequent poster in our group is saying that. :lol: It's just nice to hear someone who isn't at all bias admitting that it really isn't fair treatment for him to get away with acting like this towards people. Anyhow, you're one of my favorite members here because when I think of SO.. I think of all your epic posts and threads. So I appreciate you saying that.
:D no problem.

I'm glad someone who isn't a frequent poster in our group is saying that. :lol: It's just nice to hear someone who isn't at all bias admitting that it really isn't fair treatment for him to get away with acting like this towards people. Anyhow, you're one of my favorite members here because when I think of SO.. I think of all your epic posts and threads. So I appreciate you saying that.

The problem is ... and believe me, until tonight I had no idea there were "groups" at SO ... is that it can be hard to tell the difference between mutual self-defence and what someone might call a "gang-up". :)

The problem is ... and believe me, until tonight I had no idea there were "groups" at SO ... is that it can be hard to tell the difference between mutual self-defence and what someone might call a "gang-up". :)
Not sure I get what you mean. Do you think people are ganging up on Brian? If so, well, no one's attacking him. I don't even think any of the people posting in this thread that are denouncing what he has said have any kind of personal issues with him, either. We're simply saying we don't believe it's right that he would call our group of posters names because of what one person said. But it's become clear in his later statements he has a personal issue with our group, and he admitted to such. We get it, he's annoyed by us because of stuff that happened in the past. Soo, yeah. :lol: Naturally, people will be uncomfortable with that. I'm still trying to be as respectful to everyone as possible, but I'm not going to act like I think that he handled this with the proper conduct, especially amidst TJ feeling the need to make a thread asking people to stop running members off the board. That's all.

Not sure I get what you mean. Do you think people are ganging up on Brian? If so, well, no one's attacking him. I don't even think any of the people posting in this thread that are denouncing what he has said have any kind of personal issues with him, either. We're simply saying we don't believe it's right that he would call our group of posters names because of what one person said. But it's become clear in his later statements he has a personal issue with our group, and he admitted to such. We get it, he's annoyed by us because of stuff that happened in the past. Soo, yeah. :lol: Naturally, people will be uncomfortable with that. I'm still trying to be as respectful to everyone as possible, but I'm not going to act like I think that he handled this with the proper conduct, especially amidst TJ feeling the need to make a thread asking people to stop running members off the board. That's all.

I really wouldn't know anything about past or present issues, one way or the other. :) I think, though, if I were posting, without backup, against several people who spoke as one against me, I'd be very hard-pressed to keep entirely cool. Especially if warned to back off. :talk:

And if there were, so to speak, two "groups" battling it out, things would really get ugly. :)

I really wouldn't know anything about past or present issues, one way or the other. :) I think, though, if I were posting, without backup, against several people who
spoke as one against me, I'd be very hard-pressed to keep entirely cool. :talk: Especially if warned to back off.
Well, I can understand that. :lol: But I wouldn't make an attack on a group of people and not expect them to stick up for themselves, either.

Well, I can understand that. :lol: But I wouldn't make an attack on a group of people and not expect them to stick up for themselves, either.

Could it be -- I'm not sure, I do wonder -- that several people who feel insulted as one are more persuasive, jointly, if they let one of them speak for all? :)

Could it be -- I'm not sure, I do wonder -- that several people who feel insulted as one are more persuasive, jointly, if they let one of them speak for all? :)
Why don't we just go to the root of the problem here and say we should all respect eachother and not call names in the first place? :confused:

Why don't we just go to the root of the problem here and say we should all respect eachother and not call names in the first place? :confused:

Of course. That would solve all problems at the root. In fact there would be no problems. But it would not help if a problem did pop up somehow. :)

Of course. That would solve all problems at the root. In fact there would be no problems. But it would not help if a problem did pop up somehow. :)
Well, I don't think there's any problem with people speaking out against the comments made. I didn't see anyone blatantly disrespecting Brian or calling him names. If someone did, then I would find it inappropriate. Two wrongs don't make a right. However I see no issue with members of the group offended stating they take issue with the things said.

Brian posted his feelings on an a few issues. He's not a professional writer, and things don't always come out right. He amended his original post. I know Brian, and he doesn't bow to anyone. If he edited his post, it's because he felt it was the right thing to do. I think at least one, maybe two members made whiner remarks in this thread, but I didn't see an angry mob then.

What's with all this attack business? Brian made it perfectly clear that he was only referring to members who did the things he posted about. He posted that several times, and it kept falling on deaf ears. If you didn't do it, he didn't mean you. He made that clear, so he wasn't attacking the entire group.

Last week, a few members were calling present members, "elite", and getting offended that new members are popular. I explained to Jack, but it was really for everyone, that with new members, you guys have to reintroduce yourselves, so to speak. The new members don't know you.

With the subtle slamming of new members, hearing SO sucks, and yes, issues that Brian feels are important to him, he expressed himself. Everyone complains that there's not enough drama or fun on the board, yet some members go into meltdown mode because Brian expressed his thoughts. People gave it back to him, as they should have. It didn't get ugly, yet reading the outrage, you'd think he came on and said terrible things about your mothers. Try to gain a little perspective here. Members have been venting like crazy since this thread was posted.

If people didn't keep quoting Brian, I don't think he wouldn't have come back. How many people are not going to respond to multiple posts directed at them? His issue was with Ravey, who by the way, should stop saying that SO sucks. I belong to another online community, and if anyone ever posted that, one warning, then you're gone. I've seen members bounced just for being sarcastic, at the other site. So, everyone keeps quoting Brian, and he lets out a little more of how he's feeling on unresolved issues. Someone says they respect everyone and never do anything wrong, so Brian gives an example. Again, only with the members who did these things, not everyone.

Yes, he's angry that a couple of members made very inappropriate remarks about us. I never got an apology for that, and I didn't hold my breath waiting for one. When Brian brought that up, he was referring to the members who did that. He has some residual anger over that. Everyone read themselves into his every word. I'm reading that you guys are disrespected. When did you all become so sensitive, really. I'm not dissing anyone here, but come on now. I keep hearing about the pancake boat thread bothering people, when not a single person complained about it.

I read this thread from when Brian first posted, and I saw a little mud slinging on both sides, but nothing major. I don't have a problem with your group, aside from two members, who brought it to me. I'm always here for you guys, should you have a board issue. I take every PM and reported post seriously. At the risk of sounding like Rodney King, can't we all just get along? Like everyone, I have better things to do in life than fight on a message board. I'm trying to smooth things over here. It may look like I'm putting up for Brian, but I know him, and I know his feelings on issues. He's a decent guy. If you didn't do what he mentioned, he didn't mean you.

Nobody is disputing that he isn't a nice guy, I would just rather not have my group of friends called names by a respected Moderator here, who's opinion is obviously thought highly of. You can sit here and say all day long that he didn't mean to direct it at all of us as a group, but that's not how he presented his feelings to us. He started the discussion pointing fingers at each and every one of us and even said he would be glad if we all left. That is a fact.

Whether or not he meant that, well, I'll have to take his word for it.

At this point I just feel like our "fun" from the past is being used as an avenue to accuse me and others of things we never did, and that we're being judged as a group for things our friends were responsible for. Things that we all agree were wrong and never encouraged.

I get what you're saying. Just like I know Jackie, and know that she isn't a bad person, you know Brian and believe he's a good guy as well. You two are good friends, so naturally I'd expect you to side with him about this. I still think he should do what's right by this board just because he's a member, though. I think he owes us an apology for the things he said, but of course, after all this I don't expect it. :lol: But yeah, I know he has a personal issue with our group, for whatever reason, and has dropped little hints in the past. This was sorta the boiling point for it all. If he can put his issue behind him, then that'd be great. Since none of us have ever really taken issue with him, I think that's all that needs to be done. But again, I don't think that'll happen. Ah well. It's all water under the bridge now, and nothing will really change. Again, I take no issue with anyone over this. It's just crap on a message board. No one likes to be disrespected, but hey.. that's life. What can you do?

He started the discussion pointing fingers at each and every one of us and even said he would be glad if we all left. That is a fact.
Meh, I think that's what really is a shame. The fact that amidst TJ saying members shouldn't be run off, no one in charge seems to care that that statement was made. But again, life isn't always fair. I'm not gonna be bitter over this towards people, just doesn't pay off.

However, I do respect you, Janice, and I do believe everyone should just do their best to get along with other members and not hold grudges. I'm not going to, because that's precisely what I saw as wrong with this picture, and I'm no hypocrite.

Meh, I think that's what really is a shame. The fact that amidst TJ saying members shouldn't be run off, no one in charge seems to care that that statement was made. But again, life isn't always fair. I'm not gonna be bitter over this towards people, just doesn't pay off.

However, I do respect you, Janice, and I do believe everyone should just do their best to get along with other members and not hold grudges. I'm not going to, because that's precisely what I saw as wrong with this picture, and I'm no hypocrite.
Yeah, exactly. Don't expect any grudges from me out of this.

We posted stuff like that for fun, nothing more. In reality, none of us wanted any of the trouble Brian seems to think we did. If we're not wanted here, we're not wanted here.

No, I'm not saying I'm leaving SO, but it sure makes me think before I post. Who knows what I'm going to be accused of doing just because I apparently have a "reputation" here now.

Yeah, exactly. Don't expect any grudges from me out of this.

We posted stuff like that for fun, nothing more. In reality, none of us wanted any of the trouble Brian seems to think we did. If we're not wanted here, we're not wanted here.

No, I'm not saying I'm leaving SO, but it sure makes me think before I post. Who knows what I'm going to be accused of doing just because I apparently have a "reputation" here now.
:lol: I don't really view that as anything new, though. It seems like this group has always had a ~reputation~ and wasn't well-liked by the people of AUTHORITY because we're ''hooligans'' always goofing off on here. I guess you could say this was the downside, because instead of being viewed as the nice person we're viewed as the bad guy, if you will. We're like the younginz who the older people shake their fingers at. :grady:

I want my own Sitcom which can also be discussed at.. SITCOMS ONLINE.

It's not that I'm siding with him. I'm simply saying that he has a right to express his feelings, whether he's a moderator or not. What should he apologize for, the whiner remark? He fixed that. He does think some of you guys are whining. So, is he not entitled to express that? If wer'e going to start demanding apolgies, I'll start working on my list tomorrow, and it should be ready by Christmas, lol.

There have been past issues with Brian and a few members. I was looking over my archives, and came across an e:mail where I was complaining to TJ that "They've got slams against me and Brian in their sigs." This is dated last July, and there's no sense in naming names.

There have been past issues, and there's no crime in airing your grieveances, as long as it's done within the rules. I know one thing, I've never done a thing to you guys, and for some reason, last year, some members of your group started giving me a hard time. It was after a member of your group was suspended. Let's not act like angels here. I know you're a nice group of kids, I really do, and I don't hold any grudges. Four days after the suspension, the Weekend Chat was spammed. I deleted the remarks, but I can still see them, and I took a look at that a little while ago, and it involved several members. Not the biggest deal in the world, but how often do you see longtime members spamming their own online community? If I posted the remarks, I think a few people would be embarrassed.

What happened tonight was it snowballed because members kept quoting Brian, and he was responding. Other than the whiner remark, what other name calling was going on? Where are the reported posts? I knew this thread was going on tonight, and I'd peek in every once in a while. I know when to step in or not. If I stepped in on the first page where it was getting heated, and issued a stern warning to stop the discussion, my bet is that most of you wouldn't like it. That's why people don't report posts. I figured, let them have their drama, because let's face it, drama is fun. I just think some members overreacted and can't handle a discussion. Did he say he'd be glad if everyone left? I think it was more along the lines of, if it's so bad here, why don't you leave, or something like that.

I understand. You two are friends. We're the villains. I can accept that and move on. Won't be the first time someone has had a less-than-steller opinion of me, that's for sure. :grady: I admit it, I'm a ~Smurfwhiner~. Like I said, I'm holding no grudges over this. What's done is done. Only thing a person can do is simply move on.

Yeah, exactly. Don't expect any grudges from me out of this.

We posted stuff like that for fun, nothing more. In reality, none of us wanted any of the trouble Brian seems to think we did. If we're not wanted here, we're not wanted here.

No, I'm not saying I'm leaving SO, but it sure makes me think before I post. Who knows what I'm going to be accused of doing just because I apparently have a "reputation" here now.
What do you mean, you don't have a reputation? Of course you do, and a very good one at that, to the longtime members, but not to the new members. That's common sense. To be part of an online community, you have to engage in discussions. That goes for everyone, including me. I noticed over the last week that you guys were posting more on Chit Chat, and I was glad about that.

Of course you guys are wanted here. I'd hate it you guys left. I remember you in the old Politics board. I loved your posts and your thinking. There's no problem here. Brian he responded to some posts tonight. That's it, no more, no less. He likes you guys. I know he does. Maybe this is a good thing. Everyone clears the air. :)

I think that the point has been missed. I can't speak for everyone, but I think it goes for most of us...

I don't want an apology from Brian. I'm just a little confused and upset at how almost completely overnight I can suddenly get a reputation for being involed in "organized attacks" that I never took part in, encouraged, or even knew happened. This includes the signature stuff you speak of, which before now, I never even knew of.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, it surprises me. It surprises me how almost overnight it can go from all of our harmless fun being, well, harmless fun, to our harmless fun becoming "organized attacks".

I don't know, there's just something a little disheartening about coming to a board you've dedicated 7 years of your life to enjoying and having fun at, and all of a sudden looking like public enemy #1. I respect Brian a lot as a moderator here, and to hear that I'm basically nothing but a member of a troublemaking gang that he would rather left for good, well...It's a little bit of a shock. Especially since we never even were treated this way back when we were making crazy threads every day.

What do you mean, you don't have a reputation? Of course you do, and a very good one at that, to the longtime members, but not to the new members. That's common sense. To be part of an online community, you have to engage in discussions. That goes for everyone, including me. I noticed over the last week that you guys were posting more on Chit Chat, and I was glad about that.

Of course you guys are wanted here. I'd hate it you guys left. I remember you in the old Politics board. I loved your posts and your thinking. There's no problem here. Brian was he responded to some posts tonight. That's it, no more, no less. He likes you guys. I know he does. Maybe this is a good thing. Everyone clears the air. :)
Well, I sure hope that that is true. I just want everyone to get along and have a good time posting here. No grudges over past crap. I've made dumb decisions and done immature things, but I don't wanna always have my past thrown in my face. I've tried hard to make sure when I do post here I respect people and am kind to everyone, even if I don't necessarily know or like them as individuals. It just sucks to know people think lowly of you and your friends when you never had an issue with that person.

What do you mean, you don't have a reputation? Of course you do, and a very good one at that, to the longtime members, but not to the new members. That's common sense. To be part of an online community, you have to engage in discussions. That goes for everyone, including me. I noticed over the last week that you guys were posting more on Chit Chat, and I was glad about that.

Of course you guys are wanted here. I'd hate it you guys left. I remember you in the old Politics board. I loved your posts and your thinking. There's no problem here. Brian he responded to some posts tonight. That's it, no more, no less. He likes you guys. I know he does. Maybe this is a good thing. Everyone clears the air. :)
Well, I'm certainly glad to hear that. I've been trying to post more, you know, trying get back into the groove. Maybe I looked a little too far into what Brian was trying to say, but from what I gathered it almost seemed like it was common thought among the staff here that we were involved in actually planning and executing ATTACKS on the forums, which is far from anything I was ever involved with. I can't speak for everyone, that's for sure, but to hear that is just kind of shocking for me.

I appreciate the kindness, and I apologize if it seemed like I was using the fact Brian is a moderator against him, that actually is never what I meant. I just meant that I respect him and his views because he is a senior member here and if he thinks that about me and my friends, what must the general view be? I really hope it never was what it sounded like. I really wouldn't want a few bad apples to ruin the bunch, but I guess from now on that's something I need to try and keep in line from inside my own circle of friends.

I understand. You two are friends. We're the villains. I can accept that and move on. Won't be the first time someone has had a less-than-steller opinion of me, that's for sure. :grady: I admit it, I'm a ~Smurfwhiner~. Like I said, I'm holding no grudges over this. What's done is done. Only thing a person can do is simply move on.
Stop that. You guys are not the villains. This was a dustup, and it's over. I have nothing against you, whatsover. I think you have a great sense of humor and bring a lot to the boards. Try to put this in perspective. It was just a heated discussion. That's all it was.

You're not aware of everything Ashlee. There was a planned coordinated spam attack on Chit Chat. That's no little deal. Someone posting that Janice and I were having "dirty unprotected sex". Yeah, just a group of youngin's having fun. Just because you weren't around for things or don't know about doesn't make them irrelevant. The older members don't disrespect the younger members. It's been the other way around at times.
As far as me saying that comment goes.I shouldn't have posted it no matter what.Doesn't make me feel sorry though.For one I wasn't even talking to you in whatever thread that was and you had to make a stupid comment to me.But of course, I realize I can't talk back to somebody like you without both of us being banned.Instead, you edit your post, or one of your moderator friends, so i'm the only one who looks bad, and I got banned, and you don't.Even if I proved it you probably would have gotten away with it anyway.

SO is failing like XPW.

Stop that. You guys are not the villains. This was a dustup, and it's over. I have nothing against you, whatsover. I think you have a great sense of humor and bring a lot to the boards. Try to put this in perspective. It was just a heated discussion. That's all it was.
Well, I appreciate you saying that. I like you alot as a person and a moderator. If I'm being honest, I'm not really a sensitive person. I can be defensive, yes, and in the heat of the moment I get into arguments when I am otherwise not a confrontational person. The only thing that bothered me is that I was basically told that I should get the hell off the boards. I mean, what else can you get from that when a person refers to a group you're a part of? If he didn't mean that, then okay, he didn't mean that. He mispoke, simple as that. I can forgive and forget. But I don't recall him ever specifying. It just sucks, and it sucks that it isn't denounced. It hurts when you spent so many years as a member of this board, making friends and having fun.. you're basically not valued as a member because that kind of attitude is viewed as okay. I guess that's the single thing that hurt my feelings. Yeah, I don't like to admit that because I'm really NOT a sensitive person and I don't like to show it, but we'd all like to think we're valued when you have like, say.. 90,000 posts. :o But anyhow, I know all you're trying to do is be a peace maker during this whole situation, and I appreciate and respect that alot. So thank you. :)

I think that the point has been missed. I can't speak for everyone, but I think it goes for most of us...

I don't want an apology from Brian. I'm just a little confused and upset at how almost completely overnight I can suddenly get a reputation for being involed in "organized attacks" that I never took part in, encouraged, or even knew happened. This includes the signature stuff you speak of, which before now, I never even knew of.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, it surprises me. It surprises me how almost overnight it can go from all of our harmless fun being, well, harmless fun, to our harmless fun becoming "organized attacks".

I don't know, there's just something a little disheartening about coming to a board you've dedicated 7 years of your life to enjoying and having fun at, and all of a sudden looking like public enemy #1. I respect Brian a lot as a moderator here, and to hear that I'm basically nothing but a member of a troublemaking gang that he would rather left for good, well...It's a little bit of a shock. Especially since we never even were treated this way back when we were making crazy, fun threads every day.
If you know nothing about this stuff, then he didn't mean you, or I didn't mean you. I also take into consideration that you guys are young. I don't mean that in a condescending manner, just stating a fact. When I was young, I did silly things without thinking. I get all that.

I think you're reading too much into the organized attack line. I can only guess, but he was referring to that episode when the Weekend Chat was taken over. There had to be a little planning involved, for three or four people to suddenly show up in one thread, looking for trouble, in obvious retaliation for their friend's suspension. Again, I hold no grudges. It wasn't that big of a deal, and there's the youth factor.

It's all good. Brian got it off his chest. I think he got banged up a little too, lol. Tomorrow is another day. Just put it behind you, as I will, as Brian will, as everyone should. We've been members of this community for seven years now. There are bound to be personality clashes, issues that arise. We're human, so it's inevitable. Like I said, I know Brian, once he's said his piece, he's done. I honestly believe he would have been done tonight after his first post, had he not gotten swarmed with posts.

If you know nothing about this stuff, then he didn't mean you, or I didn't mean you. I also take into consideration that you guys are young. I don't mean that in a condescending manner, just stating a fact. When I was young, I did silly things without thinking. I get all that.

I think you're reading too much into the organized attack line. I can only guess, but he was referring to that episode when the Weekend Chat was taken over. There had to be a little planning involved, for three or four people to suddenly show up in one thread, looking for trouble, in obvious retaliation for their friend's suspension. Again, I hold no grudges. It wasn't that big of a deal, and there's the youth factor.

It's all good. Brian got it off his chest. I think he got banged up a little too, lol. Tomorrow is another day. Just put it behind you, as I will, as Brian will, as everyone should. We've been members of this community for seven years now. There are bound to be personality clashes, issues that arise. We're human, so it's inevitable. Like I said, I know Brian, once he's said his piece, he's done. I honestly believe he would have been done tonight after his first post, had he not gotten swarmed with posts.

Alright, it's cool. Thanks for taking time to come in and set the record straight and stuff. I understand where you're coming from, but I don't even remember anything surrounding that suspension. I was kind of taking a break from the internet and stuff around then. Guess that's a part of why I'm so confused, half of this stuff I never had any clue happened until I was told about it. I just assumed because our group was mentioned so much, everyone thought I was in on it. We're pretty tight, so if one of us is mentioned, it pretty much goes for everyone else. At the same time, there are always going to be people we know who post stuff we'd rather they didn't. So it works both ways.

You might find me INVADING a few threads now, but it won't be with any trouble intended. :lol:

Can't speak for everyone, again, but it's a clean slate now.

Well, I appreciate you saying that. I like you alot as a person and a moderator. If I'm being honest, I'm not really a sensitive person. I can be defensive, yes, and in the heat of the moment I get into arguments when I am otherwise not a confrontational person. The only thing that bothered me is that I was basically told that I should get the hell off the boards. I mean, what else can you get from that when a person refers to a group you're a part of? If he didn't mean that, then okay, he didn't mean that. He mispoke, simple as that. I can forgive and forget. But I don't recall him ever specifying. It just sucks, and it sucks that it isn't denounced. It hurts when you spent so many years as a member of this board, making friends and having fun.. you're basically not valued as a member because that kind of attitude is viewed as okay. I guess that's the single thing that hurt my feelings. Yeah, I don't like to admit that because I'm really NOT a sensitive person and I don't like to show it, but we'd all like to think we're valued when you have like, say.. 90,000 posts. :o But anyhow, I know all you're trying to do is be a peace maker during this whole situation, and I appreciate and respect that alot. So thank you. :)
Thank you. :) Here's what Brian said, below. I agree, not the best way to phrase something. By schtick, I think he was referring to the complaining of SO going downhill, elite members, etc. NOT trying to get the discussion going again here, please, it's late. :lol: Let me tell you this, if you made a thread that your dog was having surgery, that a loved one passed away, etc., Brian would make a very kind, warm post to you. If you sent him a PM that someone was giving you a hard time, he'd be there in a heatbeat. We'll chat tomorrow, and I'll explain to him that his remark came off as unkind. Like you said, in the heat of the moment, we say things, or get defensive. I've done it. Brian doesn't want anyone to leave. He's always trying to recruit new members. Give him a pass on that one, please. It sounds worse than he intended. How he should have phrased it was. "No offense, but if this place is so dull and you like other sites better, I don't understand why you're still here." It was bad wording. That's what happens when you find yourself in battle alone, fending off probably six or eight people. You type first, and think second, lol.

All I here is how this board has gone downhill, how it sucks, how other places are better...if that is all the case, why don't you leave? I have no problem personally with any of you, because I don't know you, but your schtick is tiresome.

Can't speak for everyone, again, but it's a clean slate now.
So happy and relieved to hear that. You guys are too valuable to lose. I sincerely mean that. :)

So happy and relieved to hear that. You guys are too valuable to lose. I sincerely mean that. :)
Thanks, that means a lot.

Hopefully this can be the start of something good for SO.

Thanks, that means a lot.

Hopefully this can be the start of something good for SO.
Yeah, get you guys out of Random because Chit Chat needs the action, and you're just the group to provide it, lol.

Yeah, get you guys out of Random because Chit Chat needs the action, and you're just the group to provide it, lol.
:lol:

Not to go too off topic, but what brings you around so late? Hopefully this didn't like, make you have to stay up late to explain things or whatever. :lol:

Thank you. :) Here's what Brian said, below. I agree, not the best way to phrase something. By schtick, I think he was referring to the complaining of SO going downhill, elite members, etc. NOT trying to get the discussion going again here, please, it's late. :lol: Let me tell you this, if you made a thread that your dog was having surgery, that a loved one passed away, etc., Brian would make a very kind, warm post to you. If you sent him a PM that someone was giving you a hard time, he'd be there in a heatbeat. We'll chat tomorrow, and I'll explain to him that his remark came off as unkind. Like you said, in the heat of the moment, we say things, or get defensive. I've done it. Brian doesn't want anyone to leave. He's always trying to recruit new members. Give him a pass on that one, please. It sounds worse than he intended. How he should have phrased it was. "No offense, but if this place is so dull and you like other sites better, I don't understand why you're still here." It was bad wording. That's what happens when you find yourself in battle alone, fending off probably six or eight people. You type first, and think second, lol.

All I here is how this board has gone downhill, how it sucks, how other places are better...if that is all the case, why don't you leave? I have no problem personally with any of you, because I don't know you, but your schtick is tiresome.
Well, I don't know Brian well myself, but I really hope all that is true. I've always got the sense he disliked me because of the group I posted with, and I don't want anyone to dislike me when I don't really know them, nor do they know me. I've made dumb decisions in the past but I don't think I've ever been a part of anything terribly disrespectful, nor did I want to hurt anyones feelings. None of those little things define me. I've never been that type of person, I just joke around and I see now some people view me as someone who they don't want hanging around the boards because I may have participated in some silly things. I'm going to put this all behind me and forget it happened. I'm not gonna hold a grudge or be resentful towards anyone over this, because it won't do any good. I'm moving on. I hope Brian will hopefully lose some of those ill feelings towards this group and realize we never meant to harm anyone. I know a few people made bad decisions, but we all do in life. You can't let it define a person, and I'm definitely not sticking up for some of the things said and done.. but yeah, you gotta forgive and forget or we'll all be bitter about this forever, myself included. Honestly, I hope things will be fine between everyone involved now. And if Brian really doesn't like me after all this, I hope he just ignores my posts from now on. :lol: I think we all got everything we needed off our chest, and we should just let it go and let the past stay in the past. :)

:lol:

Not to go too off topic, but what brings you around so late? Hopefully this didn't like, make you have to stay up late to explain things or whatever. :lol:
No, I've been a night owl for the past few months. It's this medication I'm taking, that I have to change. Fortunately I can sleep until noon, so I'm off. Goodnight, you too Lynn, if you're still here. Feels good, the calm after the storm. :wave:

No, I've been a night owl for the past few months. It's this medication I'm taking, that I have to change. Fortunately I can sleep until noon, so I'm off. Goodnight, you too Lynn, if you're still here. Feels good, the calm after the storm. :wave:
Oh, that sucks. Yeah, you better go to bed. :lol: If I don't get a full 8 hours I feel like crap. :wave:

No, I've been a night owl for the past few months. It's this medication I'm taking, that I have to change. Fortunately I can sleep until noon, so I'm off. Goodnight, you too Lynn, if you're still here. Feels good, the calm after the storm. :wave:
Goodnight, and thanks again for clearing stuff up. :wave:

I'm sorry if I offended anyone last night. It was not my intention. I come off kind of gruff at times, and I felt that I sort of had my back up against the wall, so the sarcasm defense kicked in. I have no problem with any of you guys. Like TF said, clean slate. Sounds good to me. :)

I'm sorry if I offended anyone last night. It was not my intention. I come off kind of gruff at times, and I felt that I sort of had my back up against the wall, so the sarcasm defense kicked in. I have no problem with any of you guys. Like TF said, clean slate. Sounds good to me. :)
All is forgiven. I apologize, as well, if I said stuff to offend anyone. It's time to move on and start a new here. :wave:

I'm sorry if I offended anyone last night. It was not my intention. I come off kind of gruff at times, and I felt that I sort of had my back up against the wall, so the sarcasm defense kicked in. I have no problem with any of you guys. Like TF said, clean slate. Sounds good to me. :)
Its all good man, clean slate.

i was around that age when i first registered here too. and as you can tell by my early post i wasn't too bright either. :(
It's OK. Everybody here was that age at one point. :) When I was 11, the year was 1996. The WWW was beginning to finally take off, so I didn't post at any message boards then. I did, however, make my share of stupid-ass goofups at that age. I'm just glad that you can look back at this now and laugh.

All is forgiven. I apologize, as well, if I said stuff to offend anyone. It's time to move on and start a new here. :wave:
Yeah ditto


And yes I do have opinions, but lets just say theyre not....PG13 LOL, and thats when the not so nice side of me comes out.


I dont usually make pleas for attention, but when its third place in a parody contest and with me that never happened until last month, and I knew no one was going to click on it from my sig, and I really wanted people to look at it, so I just made that thread :lol: . It wasnt a joke thread by any means, although the parody is hilarious.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone last night. It was not my intention. I come off kind of gruff at times, and I felt that I sort of had my back up against the wall, so the sarcasm defense kicked in. I have no problem with any of you guys. Like TF said, clean slate. Sounds good to me. :)
Thanks, we appreciate that. That's really all we wanted to hear, so yeah clean slate.

I'm holding you all personally responsible for the dark circles under my eyes today, lol. I'm glad everything is cleared up, and we're all friends, or at least on friendly terms. :)

Well, I sure hope that that is true. I just want everyone to get along and have a good time posting here. No grudges over past crap. I've made dumb decisions and done immature things, but I don't wanna always have my past thrown in my face. I've tried hard to make sure when I do post here I respect people and am kind to everyone, even if I don't necessarily know or like them as individuals. It just sucks to know people think lowly of you and your friends when you never had an issue with that person.
yeah same here, and im really sorry for the stuff i did on here last summer. i was just dumb and bored, lol. it definitely got carried away.

im glad to see everything has been cleared up. :D

Anyway, not sure what Jack has to do with anything in here, but be easy on the guy. He's been here as long as just about anybody. He's genuinely one of the nicest guys around here and I don't think it's right to call him out on things like that. He's been a friend of mine for 6 years, and was one of my first online friends.
Probably cause I made that thread about people checking out my parody, thanks :D

I'm sorry if I offended anyone last night. It was not my intention. I come off kind of gruff at times, and I felt that I sort of had my back up against the wall, so the sarcasm defense kicked in. I have no problem with any of you guys. Like TF said, clean slate. Sounds good to me. :)
No worries, we're cool. :wave:

I'm glad everyones getting along now. It is sad that so many members have left but we are all still here so its up to all of us to keep SO going strong. :)

I'm glad everyones getting along now. It is sad that so many members have left but we are all still here so its up to all of us to keep SO going strong. :)
You're no fun. I was ready for Round 2 :boxing: :argue:


Kidding of course. You're right Sonny. We need to stick together and not turn on one another. I love your new avatar. :)

The problem is ... and believe me, until tonight I had no idea there were "groups" at SO ... is that it can be hard to tell the difference between mutual self-defence and what someone might call a "gang-up". :)
This place can be very cliquey.

This place can be very cliquey.

And claquey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claque). :) But it's really quite fun. :)

And claquey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claque). :) But it's really quite fun. :)
Professional clappers. :lol: I want that job.

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I really just wish I could touch base with all of the people I have talked to/offended/been hated by, just to patch things up or offer a personal apology. I wish that was possible.



me too, i used to come here alot, but i kind of made a stupid mistake with one of the members here so i started comming back ocasionally. i miss my old friends and i wish i could get ahold of my old friend so i could apoligize to her for the things that happened.

me too, i used to come here alot, but i kind of made a stupid mistake with one of the members here so i started comming back ocasionally. i miss my old friends and i wish i could get ahold of my old friend so i could apoligize to her for the things that happened.
if you mean holly, the hell with her. she was a crazy hypocritical bitch, i'd recommend not wasting your time.

if you mean holly, the hell with her. she was a crazy hypocritical bitch, i'd recommend not wasting your time.

sarh. it's nice to see your still alive. :)

Dorothy still posts here? :confused: Damn, did NOT know that..

We used to be good friends before all that crap took place.. and incase you're wondering, I'm formerly *MacGyverGurl*/Lynn from way back in the day. :grady: I dunno if you'd even remember me after all these years.

Maybe I haven't been around long enough but I've never noticed any cliques of any sort. I mean of course every member has their certain friends or people that they talk to frequently but I've never noticed any cliques or gangs of any sort.

Maybe I haven't been around long enough but I've never noticed any cliques of any sort. I mean of course every member has their certain friends or people that they talk to frequently but I've never noticed any cliques or gangs of any sort.
its not really "cliques" in the negative sense, but there are different groups of friends here, like any other place really. it was much more prevalent in the "old days" but there's still groups of friends...its not a bad thing really, it doesnt cause trouble or anything and everyone still talks to everyone.

its not really "cliques" in the negative sense, but there are different groups of friends here, like any other place really. it was much more prevalent in the "old days" but there's still groups of friends...its not a bad thing really, it doesnt cause trouble or anything and everyone still talks to everyone.


I actually think that's kind of cool, as long as people aren't left out. Kind of makes it feel like a mini-society.

I actually think that's kind of cool, as long as people aren't left out. Kind of makes it feel like a mini-society.
People like me :mad:


jk LOL I feel better about that situation now

People like me :mad:


jk LOL I feel better about that situation now

Well I'm sure you know a lot more about this topic than me! Considering how long you've been up in this joint!