View Full Version : ION expansion is a joke!


TeeVeeCloset
04-04-2008, 08:08 PM
I tried to cut and paste a long well thought out essay I wrote about the ION schedule I wrote 2 years ago, which at the time didn't receive much feedback...I wrote about continuity....now you guys are finally realizing what I wrote is true.....Quantam Leap into Drew Carry.....again I have worked as a program scheduler in the televison industry for over 28 years and eagarly and supported ION from the beginning.....but as solomon says they did turn out to be the "INCREDIBLE ODD NETWORK", at the time I suggested the long lost "It's A Living" paired with "Alice" at the 6PM dinner hour where "The laughs could be served up comedy style", cheesy maybe, but fun.....a successful program schedule is about keeping the viewer and continuity...THEY FAILED OVER AND OVER AGAIN.....lastly as for the BIG recent anouncement of expanding after a 2 year wait.....they rountinely signed on at 5PM when they were PAX and ran Bonanza for years, so this is not anything new...expansion beginning at 1PM would ne news.....and the excuse about being contractually tied to informercials is also a joke, all contracts with infos last no more than a year and can usually be terminated with 30 days notice...they want the money, because believe it or not info's generate BIG BUCKS!

Dean Winchester
04-04-2008, 08:10 PM
the second they announced Alice was going, ION was dead to me

Ireneparalegal
04-04-2008, 08:34 PM
I will hang on with ION as long as Drew is there. When that leaves, so will I.

Hi Paul, nice to have your input on this matter that has angered so many. And when I write them an email, I get a stupid cheesy response back. Why did I bother?

TeeVeeCloset
04-04-2008, 10:31 PM
I will hang on with ION as long as Drew is there. When that leaves, so will I.

Hi Paul, nice to have your input on this matter that has angered so many. And when I write them an email, I get a stupid cheesy response back. Why did I bother?

Hi my lovely friend Irene, always nice to have and hear any input from you as well..............

LeeBlue
04-04-2008, 11:12 PM
When ION pulled Perfect Strangers (after only a couple of weeks), I was really ticked off -- there's very little to like and watch on ION.

friendsfan77
04-04-2008, 11:16 PM
I have no hope for ION anymore.

yankeesfan82
04-04-2008, 11:35 PM
When ION pulled Perfect Strangers (after only a couple of weeks), I was really ticked off -- there's very little to like and watch on ION.

I don't know if it was ever released to the public (i.e. the people who run this fine board), but I spoke to some one at WHPX Channel 26 our local ION station in the Hartford, CT area and was told ION yanked Perfect Strangers because of poor ratings.

friendsfan77
04-04-2008, 11:46 PM
I don't know if it was ever released to the public (i.e. the people who run this fine board), but I spoke to some one at WHPX Channel 26 our local ION station in the Hartford, CT area and was told ION yanked Perfect Strangers because of poor ratings.
That's such a crappy decision on their part. That was on for two weeks. Whatever happened to giving a show a chance?

yankeesfan82
04-05-2008, 12:33 AM
That's such a crappy decision on their part. That was on for two weeks. Whatever happened to giving a show a chance?

Well look at the mainstream networks ABC, NBC, CBS, and FOX. They cancel brand new shows after one or two airings.

Jude The Obscure
04-05-2008, 01:44 PM
And that is the problem of why networks keep losing audience share--they are too trigger happy. They expect instant hit status out of everything they put on. I remember the good ole days when networks gave new shows at least 13 episodes to prove themselves. Heck, even in the '50s, shows often ran a full season before the plug was pulled. (Of course, there have been exceptions to this such as NBC canceling a show called Doc Corkle after just like 2 or 3 airings). Yea, Yea, yea, I know and understand about economics and investments needing to pay off......but when a peon network like ION can't even give Perfect Strangers at least one cycle, there is something seriously wrong. And just how much promotion did PS get? Not much, esp compared to the mammoth campaigns for Drew Carey Show and Baywatch.

TVFactFan
04-05-2008, 02:12 PM
And that is the problem of why networks keep losing audience share--they are too trigger happy. They expect instant hit status out of everything they put on. I remember the good ole days when networks gave new shows at least 13 episodes to prove themselves. Heck, even in the '50s, shows often ran a full season before the plug was pulled. (Of course, there have been exceptions to this such as NBC canceling a show called Doc Corkle after just like 2 or 3 airings). Yea, Yea, yea, I know and understand about economics and investments needing to pay off......but when a peon network like ION can't even give Perfect Strangers at least one cycle, there is something seriously wrong. And just how much promotion did PS get? Not much, esp compared to the mammoth campaigns for Drew Carey Show and Baywatch.


I'm thinking the ratings for PS had to be really low to be pulled after two weeks. So I can undestand if something is not working then it has to go. But I would expect them to atleast try another slot before cancelling

friendsfan77
04-05-2008, 04:05 PM
And that is the problem of why networks keep losing audience share--they are too trigger happy. They expect instant hit status out of everything they put on. I remember the good ole days when networks gave new shows at least 13 episodes to prove themselves. Heck, even in the '50s, shows often ran a full season before the plug was pulled. (Of course, there have been exceptions to this such as NBC canceling a show called Doc Corkle after just like 2 or 3 airings). Yea, Yea, yea, I know and understand about economics and investments needing to pay off......but when a peon network like ION can't even give Perfect Strangers at least one cycle, there is something seriously wrong. And just how much promotion did PS get? Not much, esp compared to the mammoth campaigns for Drew Carey Show and Baywatch.
Amen to that!

Heather987
04-06-2008, 02:04 AM
Well Mama's Family must be doing great since it seems that has been on there for a long time and with the same time slot for a long period. When is Alice being yanked, waited so long for someone to put that show back on.

No stations seem to leave a show on long enough for an audience to find out about it. Two weeks is sometimes not enough time for a viewer to realize a show is being aired. It was months before I even knew that shoes were being shown, since I usually don't tune into channels that provide infomercials the majority of the time.

clj2
04-06-2008, 08:59 AM
ION expansion is a joke? I say the whole network is a joke, LOL!

TVFactFan
04-06-2008, 09:58 AM
Well Mama's Family must be doing great since it seems that has been on there for a long time and with the same time slot for a long period. When is Alice being yanked, waited so long for someone to put that show back on.

No stations seem to leave a show on long enough for an audience to find out about it. Two weeks is sometimes not enough time for a viewer to realize a show is being aired. It was months before I even knew that shoes were being shown, since I usually don't tune into channels that provide infomercials the majority of the time.



Well i think Mama's Family will continue to stick at that 8pm slot as long as it's continuing to pull in strong ratings. And 2 weeks is quick to get rid of a show but maybe it was ION that did a poor job in promoting Perfect strangers

Jude The Obscure
04-06-2008, 10:40 AM
Mama get's like what 1.1-1.2 rating, or whatever......still how can your standards be so high when your top rated show is barely attracting less than a million?

TVFactFan
04-06-2008, 10:43 AM
Mama get's like what 1.1-1.2 rating, or whatever......still how can your standards be so high when your top rated show is barely attracting less than a million?


But that was still higher than the amount of people watching the NHL on NBC-lol

Jude The Obscure
04-06-2008, 10:51 AM
oh we are comparing NBC to ION now? My we have sunk to new lows!
:rofl:

TVFactFan
04-06-2008, 11:14 AM
oh we are comparing NBC to ION now? My we have sunk to new lows!
:rofl:


Actually ESPN compared the two last year when one of the ESPN anchors said-"The NHL game on NBC yesterday had less viewers than something called ION"


LOL0he didn't even know what ION was

TKMetal
04-08-2008, 02:47 AM
Television programmers are all about instant gratification. Considering ION only gave Perfect Strangers a half-hour slot, while all the other shows have gotten an hour proves they didn't have much faith in it to began with.

JulieSomoski
04-08-2008, 04:10 PM
I don't understand why Mama does so well ALL THE TIME. It's been on the network since the "i" days, and still continues to do over a million for every single airing. What people are honestly watching it that much all the time? It's pretty sad when Mama's Family is doing better than pretty much everything on the CW.

Ireneparalegal
04-08-2008, 04:22 PM
I don't understand why Mama does so well ALL THE TIME. It's been on the network since the "i" days, and still continues to do over a million for every single airing. What people are honestly watching it that much all the time? It's pretty sad when Mama's Family is doing better than pretty much everything on the CW.
I am still waiting for that answer. :lol: Why does it do so well? Ok, I was a MF watcher when it first aired. I lost interest in it during syndication. Who are the people that watch MF? And wouldn't those people who watched MF be interested in watching shows that came from the MF era as well? I will be honest, I am no fan of Perfect Strangers, but it seems many people are and want to see it.

JulieSomoski
04-08-2008, 04:32 PM
I am still waiting for that answer. :lol: Why does it do so well? Ok, I was a MF watcher when it first aired. I lost interest in it during syndication. Who are the people that watch MF? And wouldn't those people who watched MF be interested in watching shows that came from the MF era as well? I will be honest, I am no fan of Perfect Strangers, but it seems many people are and want to see it.

I would watch Mama occassionally when it first came on, but eventually lost interest after I realized the show was in it's fifth cycle. I just don't understand why the show is so popular.

I also don't understand why ION would rather ditch Mama's Family at 8pm on Thursdays if it does so well. Airing Family Feud instead of Mama on Thursdays before the movie doesn't make much sense to me. Then again, nothing ION does makes much sense to me.