View Full Version : Who cares about Aretha, Tina, Ella, Etta, etc?: Here is our modern day LEGEND!


SBTB Geek
02-14-2008, 09:02 PM
http://www.drunkhollywood.com/images/christina-aguilera_003.jpg
http://www.sootoday.com/uploads/content/ChristinaAguilera.jpg


The one and only... CHRISTINA AGUILERA

SBTB Geek
02-14-2008, 09:10 PM
It's A Man's World--- Grammy's 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlpbKkMhrAA

A Song for You--- Grammy's 2006
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eiWpfSI3pk

Beautiful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-USUDzycRvM

Ain't No Other Man
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvkwkjvnBRk

Candyman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4kR8OQCrlQ

Dirrty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kaej4Wjkj1Q

Mikado
02-14-2008, 09:37 PM
its too bad her new "Classy" look was apparently temporary, last i saw, she looks like a tramp again

Dean Winchester
02-14-2008, 10:29 PM
actually, Christina's seemed to be classy for the past 2 or 3 years. At least nothing like how she was in the Dirrty days

However, how can you dislike Tina or even (despite the fact she has an unappealing ego) Aretha? Those two set the standard for all divas to come. I mean, if you like the divas of the 80's and 90's, that includes Aretha and Tina since both of them scored hits well into the Clinton administration. Tina held her own against Janet and Madonna on the charts in the 80's.

Zoneboy
02-14-2008, 10:37 PM
:brent :brent :brent :brent

Ireneparalegal
02-14-2008, 11:15 PM
Hey, Christina owes it to Tina, Aretha and especially Etta for the road they paved in the music business. :cheers: to the original ladies of Soul, Rock and Blues.

I love Christina, I hope she continues on the right path with her music and her personal life. ;)

phoebe7165
02-15-2008, 02:03 AM
I like Christina, too, but I wouldn't call her a legend. Not just yet. Now if she keeps going the way she is, I can definitely see her becoming a legend somewhere down the road.

eltonfan80
02-15-2008, 07:52 AM
I like Christina, too, but I wouldn't call her a legend. Not just yet. Now if she keeps going the way she is, I can definitely see her becoming a legend somewhere down the road.
i agree she is a great singer

Dean Winchester
02-15-2008, 04:57 PM
I think Christina needs a few more albums before becoming a legend.

Beyonce is the legend to emerge in the past 10 years IMO. She's had more staying power than Britney (and more ability to not succumb to pressure) and she's more prolific than Christina whose only released three "real" albums (not counting the Xmas and Spanish albums), plus she's just as good of a singer.

SBTB Geek
02-16-2008, 03:46 AM
^It's all about quality not quantity. Beyonce's albums are usually superficial crap... her work is forgettable (with the exception of "Crazy In Love.") Christina in the other hand releases classics, near masterpieces. Stripped and Back to Basics are two of the best albums from this decade.

SBTB Geek
02-16-2008, 03:48 AM
its too bad her new "Classy" look was apparently temporary, last i saw, she looks like a tramp again

Her most recent pictures...
http://i26.tinypic.com/2s6nivk.jpg
http://i27.tinypic.com/280qw4x.jpg

Not trampy... at all.

But to be honest with you, I actually her trampy look better. Back in 2001-2004, she appeared to be fierce, strong, empowering, different. She's a bit too mellow now, but then again, she is 26 now.

Janice
02-16-2008, 05:02 AM
Her most recent pictures...


Not trampy... at all.

But to be honest with you, I actually her trampy look better. Back in 2001-2004, she appeared to be fierce, strong, empowering, different. She's a bit too mellow now, but then again, she is 26 now.
Motherhood also mellows people out. Those pictures are beautiful. That baby, wow. And those dogs are adorable. Christina is perfect looking. Her guy's nice looking too. Unless I missed it, I don't recall any negative press about her. That indicates to me that she's got a good head on her shoulders. The fact that she's well-grounded and drama-free just about guarantees longevity in the business. No distractions to derail her career.

I'm going to listen to a few of those links you posted. I honestly don't know much about her. My brother is a big fan. He always got frustrated back in the day, when it was sort of a question of who was better, Britney or Christina. He said that she was a better performer than Britney, dancing and all that, as well as a better singer.

phoebe7165
02-16-2008, 12:28 PM
Motherhood also mellows people out. Those pictures are beautiful. That baby, wow. And those dogs are adorable. Christina is perfect looking. Her guy's nice looking too. Unless I missed it, I don't recall any negative press about her. That indicates to me that she's got a good head on her shoulders. The fact that she's well-grounded and drama-free just about guarantees longevity in the business. No distractions to derail her career.

I'm going to listen to a few of those links you posted. I honestly don't know much about her. My brother is a big fan. He always got frustrated back in the day, when it was sort of a question of who was better, Britney or Christina. He said that she was a better performer than Britney, dancing and all that, as well as a better singer.

Yeah, it seemed to me that a few years ago, Britney was alot more popular than Christina, although Christina was really well known, too. Now these days, things between the 2 of them couldn't be more different. I can see Christina still going strong, but poor Britney will never get back what she had before.

Maybe the reason that in my opinion Britney was more popular is because of all the crazy things she started doing even a few years ago, and not because of the music. Christina just lives her life, and doesn't go marry somebody for 55 hrs., attack a car with an umbrella, or go shaves her head!!

Dean Winchester
02-16-2008, 04:08 PM
I think the main reason Britney and Christina were compared endlessly at the start was because they were both pretty blonde teenage girls who got their start in the Mickey Mouse Club and both made their big debuts at the same time. Besides that, they couldn't be more different. Britney is about being a celebrity, Christina is about being a singer and performer.

By the time Christina released "Stripped", all comparisons to Britney were over and done with, totally different artists IMO. Christina is much more talented, even tho Britney fans always use the "well, Britney sold more" excuse about why they think she's better than Xtina.

Brian Damage
02-16-2008, 05:02 PM
I think the main reason Britney and Christina were compared endlessly at the start was because they were both pretty blonde teenage girls who got their start in the Mickey Mouse Club and both made their big debuts at the same time.

Ireneparalegal
02-16-2008, 06:32 PM
Christina is awesome. She has sang with some legends and that in itself is an honor. Christina oozes class with her style and the way she carries herself. I am glad she got over that "dirrrrty" period and came "back to basics."

Dean Winchester
02-16-2008, 08:16 PM
you know the three hasbeens in that pic have to be so jealous, since Christina, Britney, Justin and Ryan Gosling all went on to huge careers as adults

phoebe7165
02-17-2008, 01:24 AM
you know the three hasbeens in that pic have to be so jealous, since Christina, Britney, Justin and Ryan Gosling all went on to huge careers as adults

Wow, I did not even realize that was Ryan Gosling. He kind of looked like MacCauley Culkin back then IMO.

SBTB Geek
02-19-2008, 02:27 AM
Christina is awesome. She has sang with some legends and that in itself is an honor. Christina oozes class with her style and the way she carries herself. I am glad she got over that "dirrrrty" period and came "back to basics."

Not to say that Back to Basics isn't a great album, but don't you think that her MUSIC was a lot more interesting during her "dirrty" (Stripped) phase? Her image was definitely a turn-off, but artistically she was different. She stood out from everyone else, but now she sort of took a step back... she's just a better, younger version of Mariah Carey with a Madonna twist.

HuntingtonM15
02-19-2008, 02:33 AM
She stood out from everyone else, but now she sort of took a step back... she's just a better, younger version of Mariah Carey with a Madonna twist.

I love Christina, but I personally disagree that she's better than Mariah. My issue with Christina is that she needs to have better control of her voice at times. There are times when she completely overdoes it with the power/high notes, and they are all over the place. It would be nice if that was toned down a bit.

Dean Winchester
02-19-2008, 02:33 AM
Not to say that Back to Basics isn't a great album, but don't you think that her MUSIC was a lot more interesting during her "dirrty" (Stripped) phase? Her image was definitely a turn-off, but artistically she was different. She stood out from everyone else, but now she sort of took a step back... she's just a better, younger version of Mariah Carey with a Madonna twist.
Stripped was a better album, but I do think it's admirable that she took such a risk and did Back To Basics. All of her contemporaries were working with Timbaland or doing the Kelly/Avril/P!nk pop/rock thing, and here Christina was doing an album that was half-tribute to r&b and soul music of the 40's and 50's, and half-tribute to big band type of singing. If anything, she's the most daring one of her group because she took such a risky move. She was trying all along to show "I'm not Britney, I'm not a white Beyonce" and BTB was the confirmation that showed she is unique and not a follower.

SBTB Geek
02-19-2008, 02:33 PM
I love Christina, but I personally disagree that she's better than Mariah. My issue with Christina is that she needs to have better control of her voice at times. There are times when she completely overdoes it with the power/high notes, and they are all over the place. It would be nice if that was toned down a bit.

But isn't Mariah the one who is infamous for doing that? Just take a look at her earlier performances. She doesn't do it anymore because if you notice, all her "high notes" are now lipped. (e.g., 2006 Grammys perf. of "Fly Like a Bird.") Her overuse of whistle notes is known for ruining some songs...like the best one in The Emancipation of Mimi--"Stay the Night" and "Through the Rain" from Charmbracelet.

She isn't better than Christina. Christina has managed to release three noteworthy and solid albums. Mariah?.... I'll give her Daydream, but that's about it.

HuntingtonM15
02-19-2008, 02:41 PM
But isn't Mariah the one who is infamous for doing that? Just take a look at her earlier performances. She doesn't do it anymore because if you notice, all her "high notes" are now lipped. (e.g., 2006 Grammys perf. of "Fly Like a Bird.") Her overuse of whistle notes is known for ruining some songs...like the best one in The Emancipation of Mimi--"Stay the Night" and "Through the Rain" from Charmbracelet.

She isn't better than Christina. Christina has managed to release three noteworthy and solid albums. Mariah?.... I'll give her Daydream, but that's about it.

Again I have to respectfully disagree. I feel Mariah has much more control of her voice, and isn't doing it all over the place like Christina does. Also, her high notes are not all lipped. She did an entire tour in 2006 with nothing lipped, and it was quite amazing. To me, she is definitely better than Christina, and in my opinion, Daydream, Music Box, and Butterfly are all better than anything Christina has ever released. I'd also say that Mariah has the stronger debut album out of the two.

SBTB Geek
02-19-2008, 02:52 PM
Mariah's debut if definitely stronger than Christina's. But then again, we all know what (or who) Mariah was doing. ;)

Music Box? I guess "Hero" has enough power to gloss over the rest of the crap. Just imagine the album without that song, it would have been completely forgettable. The same goes for Butterfly... without "Whenever You Call" or "My All"... the album is not worth listening to. That goes back to my earlier argument---at least Christina's last two albums are good and consistent from track 1 to the end.

SBTB Geek
02-19-2008, 03:03 PM
Look at this performance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB2oN64UeGM

She couldn't even try to hit the main note of "We Belong Together." Plus the backing track is doing most of the work. Play close attention to 5:13 and then again to 5:31. One is lipped, the other isn't.

Now compare that to Christina's performance from that same night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzRl8HRiRq4

No tricks, no gimmicks. But better.

HuntingtonM15
02-19-2008, 05:27 PM
Mariah's debut if definitely stronger than Christina's. But then again, we all know what (or who) Mariah was doing. ;)

Music Box? I guess "Hero" has enough power to gloss over the rest of the crap. Just imagine the album without that song, it would have been completely forgettable. The same goes for Butterfly... without "Whenever You Call" or "My All"... the album is not worth listening to. That goes back to my earlier argument---at least Christina's last two albums are good and consistent from track 1 to the end.

Well, yeah, though I don't think that's the main reason of why the debut album was so great. Tommy didn't write the songs, especially the four that became #1s. Since these are our opinions, I don't really think there's any "argument" to to be won. You feel that Music Box and Butterfly are full of filler, and I pretty much feel the same way about Stripped. And that's fine.

HuntingtonM15
02-19-2008, 05:30 PM
Look at this performance...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PB2oN64UeGM

She couldn't even try to hit the main note of "We Belong Together." Plus the backing track is doing most of the work. Play close attention to 5:13 and then again to 5:31. One is lipped, the other isn't.

Now compare that to Christina's performance from that same night:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzRl8HRiRq4

No tricks, no gimmicks. But better.

While I'll admit that's not a great Mariah performance (I still think that song is just "ok"), I'm not completely in love with Christina's, either. That's another performance of hers where she goes a bit out of control with the vocals, and it's just not necessary. I think if she would have toned down the "vocal gymnastics," it would have been much better. My opinion only of course.

Dean Winchester
02-19-2008, 07:54 PM
The same goes for Butterfly... without "Whenever You Call" or "My All"... the album is not worth listening to.

I'm surprised to read that, since most Mariah fans I know seem to consider Butterfly the best thing she ever released

SBTB Geek
02-19-2008, 09:09 PM
I'm surprised to read that, since most Mariah fans I know seem to consider Butterfly the best thing she ever released

I've noticed that as well, and I'm trying to figure out why.

I'm guessing people like that album because it's such a mix between old Mariah(Adult Contemporary, Lite R&B, pop) and new Mariah (heavily hip-hop influenced, R&B soul, Mary J. Blige mainstream wannabe.) It is a good album (there's no denying that) but it's nowhere near as good as Daydream.

Ireneparalegal
02-19-2008, 09:15 PM
Not to say that Back to Basics isn't a great album, but don't you think that her MUSIC was a lot more interesting during her "dirrty" (Stripped) phase? Her image was definitely a turn-off, but artistically she was different. She stood out from everyone else, but now she sort of took a step back... she's just a better, younger version of Mariah Carey with a Madonna twist.
She definitely was different and it may have been an attempt at doing what previous female acts have done. I have no clue if it was her doing or someone else's doing in Christina doing that move, but it was a move that was not necessary for her to do. Albeit, it was different and some tunes were catchy, but overall she didn't need to do it. I give her props for knowing what works and what the audience likes to hear. She can sing a ballad or sing a duet with someone like Tony Bennett and garner more appeal and ease more sex appeal than anything she did with STRIPPED.

SBTB Geek
02-22-2008, 04:05 AM
^I see your point.

Anyhow, she was on Ellen last Wednesday. Here's the clip: http://youtube.com/watch?v=5VDZ0cKRlFA