View Full Version : Heath Ledger AKA The Joker To Be in 3rd Batman Film
Brian Damage 01-23-2008, 10:33 AM The Joker, and therefore Ledger, was supposed to come back for the third ‘Batman’ film?– Yes, the character is in stencil for the third film. Ledger signed a two picture deal with Warner Bros.David Goyer (writer) wrote into the third film that The Joker somehow aids Batman in his search for that film's villain, Two-Face - whether that's from a jail cell, or the looney bin Fortunately for the filmmakers, it would only be a cameo by The Joker (either behind bars, or some kind of flashback) so they can work around that - I presume they'll either cut the character from the eventual script or simply re-cast (and have that person in the shadows).
Cactus Jack 01-23-2008, 10:40 AM Two words:
Jake Gyllenhaal, if they want to go with Brokeback stars
Others they could use ( and couldve used for The Dark Knight too):
Johnny Depp
Steve Carell
Crispin Glover
Adrein Brody
Paul Bettany
Mark Hammil
Jim Carrey
Robin Williams
Jack Wilson :lol:
If they ever have the Penguin, he should be played by Jason Alexander :lol:
Two words:
Jake Gyllenhaal, if they want to go with Brokeback stars
Others they could use ( and couldve used for The Dark Knight too):
Johnny Depp
Steve Carell
Crispin Glover
Adrein Brody
Paul Bettany
Mark Hammil
Jim Carrey
Robin Williams
Jack Wilson :lol:
If they ever have the Penguin, he should be played by Jason Alexander :lol:
Adrien Brody would be a good choice. I read somewhere that he was an early choice the play the part before Ledger was cast.
If the Joker is essential to the plot, then they will obviously have to recast the part.
waichingliu81 01-23-2008, 01:06 PM Ledger post-mortem results inconclusive
ITN - 1 hour 1 minute ago
Post-mortem results on Hollywood star Heath Ledger have proved inconclusive, US authorities have said.
A spokesman for the medical examiner's office said further tests are needed and could take around ten days.
The Oscar-nominated actor was found dead on Tuesday in his apartment in New York.
The police are treating his death as possibly drug-related and sleeping pills were found close to his body.
There are also unconfirmed reports that the Brokeback Mountain actor was suffering from pneumonia at the time of his death.
Ledger was discovered at 3.26pm local time by his housekeeper when she tried to wake him for his appointment to have a massage.
He was found face down at the foot of his bed and prescription pills were lying nearby.
In Australia, Ledger's father Kim spoke of his family's grief and said the actor's death was accidental.
"We, Heath's family can confirm the very tragic, untimely and accidental passing of our dearly loved son, brother and doting father of Matilda," Mr Ledger said in Perth.
"He was a down to earth, generous, kind-hearted, life-loving, unselfish individual who was extremely inspirational to many."
Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said the country had lost one of its top actors.
He said: "Heath Ledger's diverse and challenging roles will be remembered as some of the great performances by an Australian actor."
Fellow Australian star Nicole Kidman said it was a "terrible tragedy" and sent her condolences to Ledger's family while Mel Gibson, who played his vengeful father in The Patriot, said: "I had such great hope for him."
The star was reported last year to have broken up with his longtime companion, actress Michelle Williams, who played his wife in Brokeback Mountain and was the real-life mother of the actor's young daughter, Matilda.
Ms Williams is travelling back from Sweden to New York and her father said: "Tennyson got it right in the poem when he described someone as having died at a young age but burning the candles at both ends, and oh what a beautiful flame he made."
Ledger is currently starring in I'm Not There, one of several actors playing a role representing Bob Dylan, and had just finished playing The Joker in the next Batman film, The Dark Knight.
Ledger's other film credits included A Knight's Tale, Monster's Ball and Ten Things I Hate About You.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itn/20080123/ten-ledger-post-mortem-results-inconclus-ea4616c_1.html
Faith_27 01-23-2008, 01:09 PM I think Heath Ledger already finished the Dark Night...
coffield3 01-23-2008, 01:56 PM Yeah he finished filming The Dark Knight.
"The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus." Was his latest movie that he was filming in London.
Heres a picture. (supposed to be the last picture taken of him)
Mikado 01-23-2008, 04:11 PM Well, they will simply need to cast someone else in the Joker role.
Dean Winchester 01-23-2008, 04:19 PM well, considering the dark route Warner is aiming for, if they make another movie with the Joker, I doubt they'd use someone like Carell or Carrey (especially since he was in Batman Forever anyways). From what I heard, Heath's Joker was incredibly dark and evil compared to the Nicholson or Cesar Romero Jokers. As a method actor, Heath actually was having a hard time thinking about how vicious his character was in the movie.
waichingliu81 01-23-2008, 04:26 PM Well, they will simply need to cast someone else in the Joker role.
the batman film was completed a few months ago and so there isn't going to be a need to find a replacement actor
the batman film was completed a few months ago and so there isn't going to be a need to find a replacement actor
I think Mikado was referring to the first post referring to the possible need for the Joker to return in the next Batman movie.
waichingliu81 01-23-2008, 04:34 PM well, considering the dark route Warner is aiming for, if they make another movie with the Joker, I doubt they'd use someone like Carell or Carrey (especially since he was in Batman Forever anyways). From what I heard, Heath's Joker was incredibly dark and evil compared to the Nicholson or Cesar Romero Jokers. As a method actor, Heath actually was having a hard time thinking about how vicious his character was in the movie.
i wonder what would've happened in terms of the casting- had heath died whilst during the making of the batman film at the time. would've they have used a replacement?
Mikado 01-23-2008, 04:36 PM I think Mikado was referring to the first post referring to the possible need for the Joker to return in the next Batman movie.
yup! :cow: Im at the library and only had an hour, im making my posts quick as possible, and not going into details! :lol:
My puter died! :(
waichingliu81 01-23-2008, 04:36 PM I think Mikado was referring to the first post referring to the possible need for the Joker to return in the next Batman movie.
oh okay. thanks for pointing that out TJL :)
Cactus Jack 01-23-2008, 04:39 PM oh okay. thanks for pointing that out TJL :)
*sees your av*
THATS The Joker :D
waichingliu81 01-23-2008, 05:00 PM *sees your av*
THATS The Joker :D
;) yeah, i was thinking exactly the same thing a few months back. michael urie aka marc from abc's ugly betty (the guy in my avator) would've made an interesting joker. i can picture him with the make-up, the clothes. mind you, he would make a good and younger version of the riddler :)
Dr. Thong 01-23-2008, 06:15 PM My guess is that the Joker will be written out of the third Batman movie. I imagine it would be tough for Christopher Nolan and the cast to try and work around another actor as the Joker.
I'm glad to know that they're doing Two Face as the villain for the third film. The version of him in Batman Forever was a buffoonish cartoon, hardly at all like the dark, psychological character from the comics. With Aaron Eckhart playing Harvey Dent, this should be a good one.
Pity about Heath Ledger. Such a promising career lay ahead of him and now it's gone. I feel bad for his daughter, who'll grow up not knowing her father. That's really sad.
waichingliu81 01-23-2008, 06:17 PM My guess is that the Joker will be written out of the third Batman movie. I imagine it would be tough for Christopher Nolan and the cast to try and work around another actor as the Joker.
I'm glad to know that they're doing Two Face as the villain for the third film. The version of him in Batman Forever was a buffoonish cartoon, hardly at all like the dark, psychological character from the comics. With Aaron Eckhart playing Harvey Dent, this should be a good one.
Pity about Heath Ledger. Such a promising career lay ahead of him and now it's gone. I feel bad for his daughter, who'll grow up not knowing her father. That's really sad.
if the riddler is in this as well, i do hope its nothing like batman forever. that was such a ****ty movie
Dean Winchester 01-23-2008, 07:00 PM I blame Joel Schumacher for why Batman Forever and Batman And Robin sucked, if Tim Burton stayed with the original film franchise, I don't think it ever would've turned into such awful parody.
coffield3 01-23-2008, 09:32 PM yup! :cow: Im at the library and only had an hour, im making my posts quick as possible, and not going into details! :lol:
My puter died! :(
Hurry up back mikey, get your computer fixed ASAP! ;)
Dr. Thong 01-24-2008, 05:44 PM if the riddler is in this as well, i do hope its nothing like batman forever. that was such a ****ty movie
As long as Christopher Nolan is directing, you have no worries, my friend.
IMO, Batman Begins was the best Batman movie ever. I liked the Tim Burton movies, but this movie really explored his origins and gave you more of a sense of how he got to where he needed to be.
I'm looking forward to seeing how Heath Ledger will interpret The Joker. Looks promising to me. Pity he won't be around to take the kudos if his performance goes over well.
waichingliu81 01-24-2008, 06:19 PM As long as Christopher Nolan is directing, you have no worries, my friend.
IMO, Batman Begins was the best Batman movie ever. I liked the Tim Burton movies, but this movie really explored his origins and gave you more of a sense of how he got to where he needed to be.
I'm looking forward to seeing how Heath Ledger will interpret The Joker. Looks promising to me. Pity he won't be around to take the kudos if his performance goes over well.
batman begins was in truth the prequel to those 80s and 90s batman films and yes this film takes us on a journey as we discover how he becomes the caped crusader. batman and robin and batman forever were an embarassment- they took what was supposed to be a dark formula and turned them into campy, childish films
I'm looking forward to seeing how Heath Ledger will interpret The Joker. Looks promising to me. Pity he won't be around to take the kudos if his performance goes over well.
I was saying the same thing to my roommate the other day.
I would have loved to have heard him explain his interpretation of the Joker and how he developed his performance - which I just read gave him insomnia.
Brian Damage 01-27-2008, 12:22 PM ComicMix currently has up an exclusive audio interview with Ledger, conducted last month, in which the actor explains why, exactly, he decided to take on the part. According to the actor, he had no interest in re-creating what Nicholson had so expertly displayed earlier, and that if Burton was directing this film he probably wouldn't have done it. But when Christopher Nolan asked Ledger to play Joker, he watched Batman Begins, saw a different angle he could take and jumped right in.
http://www.comicmix.com/news/2008/01/26/comicmixs-interview-with-heath-ledger/
dropcough 07-30-2008, 04:26 AM but who is going to replace heath
i know its not johnny depp thats for that other film
but please, someone will replace him yeah people say there are shoes to fill
but i beleive its harder to create a character then to copy one
and thats why heaths performance was so well
someone please pick up some rumors on who will replace him because when hes hanging from that cable and the camera spins on his face
i think to myself
greatest character ever
hope no one screws him up
Dr. Thong 07-31-2008, 06:01 PM I don't think Ledger will be replaced. Batman has many villains in his rogues gallery and I suspect the Joker will remain at Arkham Asylum for the rest of this Batman movie series.
Then again, I suppose Jack Nicholson's still available...:rolleyes:
Max Whittaker 08-01-2008, 03:35 PM I don't think Ledger will be replaced. Batman has many villains in his rogues gallery and I suspect the Joker will remain at Arkham Asylum for the rest of this Batman movie series.
"This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. You truly are incorruptible aren't you? You won't kill me out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness, and I won't kill you, because you're just too much fun. I think you and I are destined to do this forever."
I suspect we have not seen the last of the Joker. Based on what we know of the Joker, and on what we witnessed in the film, no prison can hold him. A part of me hopes we haven't seen the last of him, provided there is an actor that can pull it off.
waichingliu81 08-03-2008, 10:41 AM personally, i think it would be an insult to heath's legacy, if there was another actor playing the joker. this was heath's role- he was perfect for this, although as cactus jack argued michael urie could've played the joker instead. they need to move on but i see him more as the riddler type. if they are going to make another batman movie then, it should feature new versions of the penguin, mr freeze, scarecrow, poison ivy, catwoman and the riddler. bit i'd definitely would say michael would be ideal for the riddler
I saw Dark Knight today. Excellent film, very well done. Another high point in the Batman film catalog.
Heath Ledger nailed the Joker. Without a doubt, he was perfect for the role.
Where do they go from there? Who knows. Another acotr might be able to play the part eventually, but...
The Joker doesn't have to be in the next movie.
The way they left things Batman has other things to worry about now. He's now an enemy of Gotham City, so the next film could deal with that.
But Chris Nolan and company has a lot of work ahead of them. The Dark Knight will be a hard film to top.
;)
Dr. Thong 08-03-2008, 05:56 PM New rumour has it that Angelina Jolie will play Catwoman in Batman III. I could see that one. Yep.
But I will say again, I'd like to see them tackle a Bat-Villain that hasn't been done in the movies. When they announced Ra's Al Ghul for Batman Begins, I couldn't believe it. Those Neal Adams Ra's stories from the seventies were among the best Batman comics ever.
But there are bound to be lots of rumours in the wake of The Dark Knight's massive success!
Stay Tuned!
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