Please read:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2008/01/mini-dvd-review-jag-season-5-jan-29.html

...then discuss.

I agree with everything you've said Solomon, good article.

Yes, indeed, a great rant! As for Alice, could it be we are watching the Daytime CBS copies? I know we're looking at old syndicated cuts with the old WB (Warner Communications) logo still being used. But I agree, Ion has TOO many breaks during Alice.

As for the Drew editing, I can say there is more time devoted to Drew for the reason you stated Solomon. Back in the 70's, those shows had more airtime to devote. Drew came out in the 90's and of course, commercials take over. There is not much editing from what I can tell with Drew. I don't think it has anything to do with the Drew show being "special", only that the cuts to the commercials are done where they should be done. With Alice, it seems they have to cut away from dialogue to get the same amount of commercial time in.

Have you bothered to check to see if the amount of commercials that air with ALICE are the same as with Drew? I mean, do we get the same amount of show time with both shows?

I think that everything he said was right. I really would like to see Facts Strokes Spoons Break and few others on Nick@Nite but the thing is once we get our wish there they pull em look at Growing Pains, Facts of Life, Who's The Boss?, and Diff'rent Strokes except for Growing Pains all shows got exactlt 1 year before pulled why is this. Me personally I wanna start an 80s network I think it would be cool because it was one of the most productive decades and also one of the most ignored

As for the Drew editing, I can say there is more time devoted to Drew for the reason you stated Solomon. Back in the 70's, those shows had more airtime to devote. Drew came out in the 90's and of course, commercials take over. There is not much editing from what I can tell with Drew. I don't think it has anything to do with the Drew show being "special", only that the cuts to the commercials are done where they should be done. With Alice, it seems they have to cut away from dialogue to get the same amount of commercial time in.

Have you bothered to check to see if the amount of commercials that air with ALICE are the same as with Drew? I mean, do we get the same amount of show time with both shows?



No I will actually time both shows on Monday

I think that everything he said was right. I really would like to see Facts Strokes Spoons Break and few others on Nick@Nite but the thing is once we get our wish there they pull em look at Growing Pains, Facts of Life, Who's The Boss?, and Diff'rent Strokes except for Growing Pains all shows got exactlt 1 year before pulled why is this. Me personally I wanna start an 80s network I think it would be cool because it was one of the most productive decades and also one of the most ignored



That sounds like a great idea for a new cable channel launch

That sounds like a great idea for a new cable channel launch

Hell yeah! I'd tune in! :thumbsup: :cool:

Living in Chicago, we thankfully have ME-Tv which has aired most of the shows you mentioned.

As far as Alice, I've been recording all of the episodes, and then editing them down.

First, there are only three commerical breaks during the show.

Each episode comes in at about 20:00 -21:00, so we're missing at least 4-5 mintues from each show.

The problem I have with their editing is that they cut critical scenes, rather than cutting a minute here and there. They could easily edit out non important banter (which is how the syndicated prints are), rather than cutting scenes critical to the storyline.

Living in Chicago, we thankfully have ME-Tv which has aired most of the shows you mentioned.

As far as Alice, I've been recording all of the episodes, and then editing them down.

First, there are only three commerical breaks during the show.

Each episode comes in at about 20:00 -21:00, so we're missing at least 4-5 mintues from each show.

The problem I have with their editing is that they cut critical scenes, rather than cutting a minute here and there. They could easily edit out non important banter (which is how the syndicated prints are), rather than cutting scenes critical to the storyline.


I know I seen atleast 4 from start to finish at certain times. Never 2 like Drew Carey

Why does ION need 9-10 minutes for commercial? As I recall from when I watched The Wonder Years, the only advertisements they showed were for Bowflex and Mama's Family over and over. Damn, this network is pathetic!

One reason for fewer commercials during Drew Carey is perhaps there are more advertisers for Alice. Just a thought.

The problem I have with their editing is that they cut critical scenes, rather than cutting a minute here and there. They could easily edit out non important banter (which is how the syndicated prints are), rather than cutting scenes critical to the storyline.
I agree with you. I notice some of the episodes don't make sense because of this.

With Drew Carey on ION, the show isn't getting special treatment or anything. But, it is getting less commercials than other shows because its new. They did the same thing with Who's the Boss? when it first premiered. It was only getting 2 commercial breaks. I guess when they got an audience, they added another commercial break and more editing. Just give it time before we'll all be complaining about the Drew Carey Show being badly edited (although, I've never seen anything worse than Alice on ION-LOL).

With George Lopez, I really don't think you should be complaining. At least it's getting a marathon. At least it's still airing at all. Just give it time before we start seeing week long marathons.

With Drew Carey on ION, the show isn't getting special treatment or anything. But, it is getting less commercials than other shows because its new. They did the same thing with Who's the Boss? when it first premiered. It was only getting 2 commercial breaks. I guess when they got an audience, they added another commercial break and more editing. Just give it time before we'll all be complaining about the Drew Carey Show being badly edited (although, I've never seen anything worse than Alice on ION-LOL).

With George Lopez, I really don't think you should be complaining. At least it's getting a marathon. At least it's still airing at all. Just give it time before we start seeing week long marathons.


I want the fresh prince treatment-lol

Full House Is a 90 Show

Full House Is a 90 Show
It ran through 1995 but it originally began in 1987.

I am with you on the 80's sitcoms. I think this is what TV Land should've done for the 80's weekend instead of played out movies. Oh wait... people here might actually LIKE that, TV Land would never want to actually do something people like, lol

I am with you on the 80's sitcoms. I think this is what TV Land should've done for the 80's weekend instead of played out movies. Oh wait... people here might actually LIKE that, TV Land would never want to actually do something people like, lol


If TV land ever did a 80's tribute it would be the day of the Superbowl-lol

I didnt think sit-coms were very good in the 80s and none hold up very well for re-watching (except for Golden Girls, Designing Women and maybe Newhart)
Maybe that is why you dont see many 80s comedies shown today.

I didnt think sit-coms were very good in the 80s and none hold up very well for re-watching (except for Golden Girls, Designing Women and maybe Newhart)
Maybe that is why you dont see many 80s comedies shown today.
I disagree. There was once a time where it was easier to see other sitcoms from the '80's and other decades, but not many networks today seem to rely on variety in a schedule. Networks don't give some shows a chance. For instance, look at Perfect Strangers on ION, Benson didn't last long on TVLand and neither did Family Ties on Hallmark. The Hogan Family was pulled twice on ABC Family, and they never promoted it each time it aired on their schedule. There was once a period where pretty much all of those shows listed could be found somewhere in syndication and the shows lasted on the networks they aired on.

I disagree. There was once a time where it was easier to see other sitcoms from the '80's and other decades, but not many networks today seem to rely on variety in a schedule. Networks don't give some shows a chance. For instance, look at Perfect Strangers on ION, Benson didn't last long on TVLand and neither did Family Ties on Hallmark. The Hogan Family was pulled twice on ABC Family, and they never promoted it each time it aired on their schedule.
I agree. Plus, outside of Seinfeld, Friends, Roseanne, Ellen and a few others, who says 90's sitcoms are that much better than 80's? I'd much rather watch shows like Facts Of Life, Family Ties, 227, Gimme A Break, Diff'rent Strokes and the sort than a lot of the 90's sitcoms that are still constantly bombarding the networks.

I agree. Plus, outside of Seinfeld, Friends, Roseanne, Ellen and a few others, who says 90's sitcoms are that much better than 80's? I'd much rather watch shows like Facts Of Life, Family Ties, 227, Gimme A Break, Diff'rent Strokes and the sort than a lot of the 90's sitcoms that are still constantly bombarding the networks.


That's all I see on my local channels too, ALL 90 stcoms or 2000

I totally agree about 80's sitcoms being on tv more. Some of them are on Comcast on Demand though but I know not everybody has Comcast as there cable.

Dear friendsfan77
you dont see many 80s sit-coms on TV and with the list you provided--you make my case

Dear friendsfan77
you dont see many 80s sit-coms on TV and with the list you provided--you make my case
well, what is so much better about 90's sitcoms? Outside of Seinfeld, Roseanne, Friends, Ellen and a couple others, that decade wasn't as hot as you think it is. What's wrong with Benson or Family Ties? Especially Family Ties, that show was great!

Dean calm down--90s sit-coms arent much better. This is coming from a 50s-70s TV fan
Here is my take on the situation
The 50s-70s TV was good
The 80s tv was half as good
the 90s were 1/4th as good
2000s pretty much Blows

Thank heaven for DVDs

Dear friendsfan77
you dont see many 80s sit-coms on TV and with the list you provided--you make my case
But just because you don't want to see the shows doesn't mean other people don't. And as I mentioned, I wasn't just talking about '80's sitcoms either. When I say networks lack variety, not only do I mean that they air the same few series over and over, but that it'd also be nice to see shows from the early '80's as well as from other decades.

As for the Drew editing, I can say there is more time devoted to Drew for the reason you stated Solomon. Back in the 70's, those shows had more airtime to devote. Drew came out in the 90's and of course, commercials take over. There is not much editing from what I can tell with Drew. I don't think it has anything to do with the Drew show being "special", only that the cuts to the commercials are done where they should be done. With Alice, it seems they have to cut away from dialogue to get the same amount of commercial time in.

Have you bothered to check to see if the amount of commercials that air with ALICE are the same as with Drew? I mean, do we get the same amount of show time with both shows?



Here are the surprising numbers, I recorded both Alice and Drew Carey and the length for both shows without commercials was 20:54

LOL

I guess Alice seemed like it was shorter in length because of the sudden commercial breaks that you don't see during Drew Carey. So it's still a editing issue, Drew is edited a lot better eventhough both are the same length

Here are the surprising numbers, I recorded both Alice and Drew Carey and the length for both shows without commercials was 20:54

LOL

I guess Alice seemed like it was shorter in length because of the sudden commercial breaks that you don't see during Drew Carey. So it's still a editing issue, Drew is edited a lot better eventhough both are the same length

They were both 20:54?-LOL. That's surprising. I'm sure Alice just seems more badly edited because it has more to edit our. Drew Carey Show only ran around 1:30 longer, just because it's a much newer show.

They were both 20:54?-LOL. That's surprising. I'm sure Alice just seems more badly edited because it has more to edit our. Drew Carey Show only ran around 1:30 longer, just because it's a much newer show.


Yup, both come out at the same length surprisingly. I was expected Alice to finish at 15:46-lol