For me the High was adding George Lopez to the lineup

the Low was the multiple airings of Fresh Prince

The low part (airing Fresh Prince to death) will continue until the next millenium. :crazy: That will be your low on next year's thread and so on and so on and so on. :lol:

God, 8 airings of Fresh Prince from 2 a.m. til whatever is absolutely disgusting and pathetic!!! That doesn't include the 2 airings that occur at 11 p.m.

The low part (airing Fresh Prince to death) will continue until the next millenium. :crazy: That will be your low on next year's thread and so on and so on and so on. :lol:

God, 8 airings of Fresh Prince from 2 a.m. til whatever is absolutely disgusting and pathetic!!! That doesn't include the 2 airings that occur at 11 p.m.

You couldn't be more right. It's absolutely disgusting, and there's nothing more to it than that. How the hell can 1 show be so damn popular, airing after airing after airing?

So, that's my low point (if you haven't already guessed). I don't even have a real high point for this network this year (although, the closest thing to it would probably be adding Growing Pains to the lineup, although it only stayed there for about 2 weeks)

The low part (airing Fresh Prince to death) will continue until the next millenium. :crazy: That will be your low on next year's thread and so on and so on and so on. :lol:

God, 8 airings of Fresh Prince from 2 a.m. til whatever is absolutely disgusting and pathetic!!! That doesn't include the 2 airings that occur at 11 p.m.


what was N@N High point?-lol

You couldn't be more right. It's absolutely disgusting, and there's nothing more to it than that. How the hell can 1 show be so damn popular, airing after airing after airing?

So, that's my low point (if you haven't already guessed). I don't even have a real high point for this network this year (although, the closest thing to it would probably be adding Growing Pains to the lineup, although it only stayed there for about 2 weeks)

I thought Home improvement would be your highpoint?

I thought Home improvement would be your highpoint?

I like Home Improvement, but I haven't watched much since it premiered on Nick at Nite. Plus WTB was always on at 9pm, and now Drew Carey is. I own the show on DVD, so there's really no need to watch.

The High- adding Growing Pains
The Low- removing Growing Pains

what was N@N High point?-lol
Well, I have to say adding GL but N@N should be airing older shows, not new shows. But since they did, I am glad it was GL. Our local channel also airs GL but they air it kinda late.

Well, I have to say adding GL but N@N should be airing older shows, not new shows. But since they did, I am glad it was GL. Our local channel also airs GL but they air it kinda late.


N@N has no interest in shows from the 80's

They did when they had Roseanne and Cosby Show.

They did when they had Roseanne and Cosby Show.


Roseanne is a 90's show

Roseanne began in 1987.

Roseanne began in 1987.


Nope, 2 months before 1989, so the show only aired 14 months of the 1980's decade which would make it a 90's show

Oops. I meant 1989. I remember I was mad because I was working evenings at that time and I was missing watching Roseanne. I eventually had to record it on my VCR.

well, I think Roseanne is generally regarded as a 90's show since that was when the show was it's strongest. Kinda like how Diff'rent Strokes is generally agreed as an 80's show though it started in 1978, because it's strongest period was the early 80's, not late 70's. To me, 1991-1994 was truly Roseanne's greatest period.

My high point of the year was the return of Kenan and Kel to television
The low point was like everyone else FP on N@N

High- Adding GL A& HI
Low- Same as everyone elses!

well, I think Roseanne is generally regarded as a 90's show since that was when the show was it's strongest. Kinda like how Diff'rent Strokes is generally agreed as an 80's show though it started in 1978, because it's strongest period was the early 80's, not late 70's. To me, 1991-1994 was truly Roseanne's greatest period.

Sorry to get off subject again, but Roseanne is definitely a 90's show. I don't even remember watching it in the 80's (I think I started watching it on ABC around 1991). Even so, I actually believe the 80's is when Roseanne was strongest. It was bringing in the most viewers up until 1990, when Roseanne sang the national anthem. Then the show lost viewers that it never gained back.

Sorry to get off subject again, but Roseanne is definitely a 90's show. I don't even remember watching it in the 80's (I think I started watching it on ABC around 1991). Even so, I actually believe the 80's is when Roseanne was strongest. It was bringing in the most viewers up until 1990, when Roseanne sang the national anthem. Then the show lost viewers that it never gained back.
Roseanne was most popular in the 80's because it was "safe" and tame. It was seen as a middle-class alternative to The Cosby Show. The 90's was when Roseanne actually started daring to go places with her show that it didn't see at the beginning and the show actually had a voice. The first two seasons of Roseanne are very weak compared to seasons 3-6. The fact that the show continued getting such good ratings up until around 1994 despite all of the personal controversy and outrageous antics Roseanne was doing (before the National Anthem controversy, she was America's sweetheart, then she became the second most controversial woman in America after Madonna) is testament to how strong the show was for several seasons there. I bet if Roseanne had stayed the "white middle class Cosby Show" that it was pre-1990, it likely would've ended in 93 or 94 if Roseanne had still managed to get into so much controversy and piss people off the way she did.

well, I think Roseanne is generally regarded as a 90's show since that was when the show was it's strongest. Kinda like how Diff'rent Strokes is generally agreed as an 80's show though it started in 1978, because it's strongest period was the early 80's, not late 70's. To me, 1991-1994 was truly Roseanne's greatest period.


I can watch the 19-94 eps a lot more than the 95-98 era

Roseanne was most popular in the 80's because it was "safe" and tame. It was seen as a middle-class alternative to The Cosby Show. The 90's was when Roseanne actually started daring to go places with her show that it didn't see at the beginning and the show actually had a voice. The first two seasons of Roseanne are very weak compared to seasons 3-6. The fact that the show continued getting such good ratings up until around 1994 despite all of the personal controversy and outrageous antics Roseanne was doing (before the National Anthem controversy, she was America's sweetheart, then she became the second most controversial woman in America after Madonna) is testament to how strong the show was for several seasons there. I bet if Roseanne had stayed the "white middle class Cosby Show" that it was pre-1990, it likely would've ended in 93 or 94 if Roseanne had still managed to get into so much controversy and piss people off the way she did.

But I and many others like the first 2 seasons a lot, probably more than the other seasons, just because it was funnier when the show was "safe". Once she sang the National Anthem, the show lost about 2 million viewers that it never gained back, and just started freefalling by season 7. Sure, the show became more controversial, but it also became something people either wanted to watch, or didn't want to watch. In the first 2 seasons, people could care less. I think Roseanne becoming the bitch she was when she was married to that dumbass Tom Arnold did nothing but hurt the show.

This is something we should really be discussing on the Roseanne board-LOL

But I and many others like the first 2 seasons a lot, probably more than the other seasons, just because it was funnier when the show was "safe". Once she sang the National Anthem, the show lost about 2 million viewers that it never gained back, and just started freefalling by season 7. Sure, the show became more controversial, but it also became something people either wanted to watch, or didn't want to watch. In the first 2 seasons, people could care less. I think Roseanne becoming the bitch she was when she was married to that dumbass Tom Arnold did nothing but hurt the show.

This is something we should really be discussing on the Roseanne board-LOL
true. I think Roseanne suffered the Madonna complex. When Madonna started really getting controversial in the late 80's was also when her music started getting great and taking her to another level, and critics and many fans feel that way, but "Like A Prayer" only sold half what "Like A Virgin" did because the controversy alienated a lot of listeners, but to this day, Prayer is regarded as one of Madonna's strongest albums and Virgin is usually regarded as average. I think Roseanne got too controversial for middle America by doing episodes about pot, masturbation, homosexuality, domestic violence, etc..., but I think that was when the show really came into it's own. I enjoyed the first two seasons, but there is nothing in the early seasons IMO that rivals the Fisher beats Jackie 2-parter, or Homeward Bound or A Stash From The Past or Don't Ask Don't Tell. I think Roseanne scared away a lot of people by going places unseen before, but those along for the ride enjoyed every minute of it. Sometimes you have to sacrifice the masses if you're really wanting to speak your mind, and that's what Roseanne did.

Nope, 2 months before 1989, so the show only aired 14 months of the 1980's decade which would make it a 90's show
Roseanne Began In 1988

Yes, "Roseanne" lost viewers after she sung the National Anthem.

But seasons 3, 4, 5 and 6 ALL stayed in the Top 5 Most Watched Shows. So the controversy she caused on and off set during those seasons didn't do that much harm to the ratings. I mean, hell, seasons 4 and 5 were both the #2 shows in the nation!

The only reason the show really started to decline in the 7th season was because Tom Arnold and Roseanne were going through an ugly divorce, and his creative help wasn't there. Plus, Roseanne, herself, wasn't at her best -- going through an ugly divorce takes up a lot of time and attention.

"Roseanne" just never recovered after the 7th season, even though I feel season 8 is a stronger season. However, the show only fell out of the Top 20 in the final season.

Overall, "Roseanne" stayed strong for the majority of its run. In-fact, it stayed just as strong for the same amount of total seasons "I Love Lucy" had. Sometimes I feel "Roseanne" isn't given as much credit because of its later seasons, even though "Roseanne" has just as many great seasons as other shows, it just went on too long.

Yes, "Roseanne" lost viewers after she sung the National Anthem.

But seasons 3, 4, 5 and 6 ALL stayed in the Top 5 Most Watched Shows. So the controversy she caused on and off set during those seasons didn't do that much harm to the ratings. I mean, hell, seasons 4 and 5 were both the #2 shows in the nation!

The only reason the show really started to decline in the 7th season was because Tom Arnold and Roseanne were going through an ugly divorce, and his creative help wasn't there. Plus, Roseanne, herself, wasn't at her best -- going through an ugly divorce takes up a lot of time and attention.

"Roseanne" just never recovered after the 7th season, even though I feel season 8 is a stronger season. However, the show only fell out of the Top 20 in the final season.

Overall, "Roseanne" stayed strong for the majority of its run. In-fact, it stayed just as strong for the same amount of total seasons "I Love Lucy" had. Sometimes I feel "Roseanne" isn't given as much credit because of its later seasons, even though "Roseanne" has just as many great seasons as other shows, it just went on too long.

very true. You must remember that while ratings did fall in season 3, they did go back up a bit for seasons 4 and 5, never to the heights in the first two seasons, but it definately restored that it was a flagship smash for ABC. I agree totally that season 7 killed the show to all but the diehardest of fans and that season 8 was far more "classic" Roseanne.

very true. You must remember that while ratings did fall in season 3, they did go back up a bit for seasons 4 and 5, never to the heights in the first two seasons, but it definately restored that it was a flagship smash for ABC. I agree totally that season 7 killed the show to all but the diehardest of fans and that season 8 was far more "classic" Roseanne.


The thing I didn' like about Roseanne as a Family sitcom was it seemed like her SISTER was seen more than her KIDS

The thing I didn' like about Roseanne as a Family sitcom was it seemed like her SISTER was seen more than her KIDS
well, Jackie worked with Roseanne in season 1 and always dropped in the house, so I thought it made sense. Plus, Becky and Darlene both eventually went out of the house, but Jackie was always a constant. Jackie was one of the best characters on the show IMO, along with Darlene and Roseanne. I think it's a factor in why Roseanne wasn't a show that really suffered when the "cute kids" grew up, because the kids weren't really that cute in the beginning and the show never revolved around them until they got older. Whereas Cosby Show lost a lot of it's appeal when the kids grew up because so much of the appeal was how spunky Vanessa was and how adorable Rudy was and how funny Theo was, etc..., and then they got older.

Jackie won 3 Emmy Awards. She was one of the best characters on "Roseanne".

well, Jackie worked with Roseanne in season 1 and always dropped in the house, so I thought it made sense. Plus, Becky and Darlene both eventually went out of the house, but Jackie was always a constant. Jackie was one of the best characters on the show IMO, along with Darlene and Roseanne. I think it's a factor in why Roseanne wasn't a show that really suffered when the "cute kids" grew up, because the kids weren't really that cute in the beginning and the show never revolved around them until they got older. Whereas Cosby Show lost a lot of it's appeal when the kids grew up because so much of the appeal was how spunky Vanessa was and how adorable Rudy was and how funny Theo was, etc..., and then they got older.



Well That's Why I loved watching shows like Fresh Prince, Family Matters, George Lopez, and the Coby Show was because 85% of the storylines lines involved the entire family. On roseanne it was Roseaane and Jackie or Roseanne and Dan or Roseanne at WORK and her kids had a small role.

I've heard it said before, and I kind of agree, that Roseanne and Jackie were a bit of a modern day Lucy and Ethel. I think Jackie was one of the strongest characters on the show and always loved episodes where it was mostly her and Roseanne

I've heard it said before, and I kind of agree, that Roseanne and Jackie were a bit of a modern day Lucy and Ethel. I think Jackie was one of the strongest characters on the show and always loved episodes where it was mostly her and Roseanne


Well maybe I would have liked the show better if it wasn't a family sitcom. I mean since she titled the show-"Roseanne" they shouldn't have included the kids. More Appropiate Title for the show since kids was on there was "THE CONNORS" or "THE CONNOR FAMILY"

Roseanne and Jackie were a bit of a modern day Lucy and Ethel.
I AGREE! Roseanne and Jackie were a modern day Lucy and Ethel.

"Roseanne" focused a lot on her kids, but the show gave equal time to Dan and Roseanne, and Rosanne and Jackie.

I mean, the show is titled "Roseanne" -- not "The Conner Show".

It is about her and her relationships. And one of her biggest relationships was with Jackie.

Well maybe I would have liked the show better if it wasn't a family sitcom. I mean since she titled the show-"Roseanne" they shouldn't have included the kids. More Appropiate Title for the show since kids was on there was "THE CONNORS" or "THE CONNOR FAMILY"
I think it was great that it was a sitcom that was adult-centric instead of being about the kids. Roseanne actually benefitted by the kids getting older, since it meant more room for Roseanne to do non-parent things (as is the case when kids get older, the parents get more time for them besides work). Plus, Becky and DJ just weren't that good of characters to begin with, and Darlene didn't really come to her own until around season 4 when she shed the jock-girl image and became more sarcastic and complex. I am glad they didn't make the Connor kids like the Huxtable kids. By doing the opposite of Cosby, Roseanne was able to stay fresh longer instead of having to deal with the fact that Keisha Knight-Pulliam was suddenly a 10 year old, etc.. Granted, Jackie, Roseanne (in those cases, Laurie and Roseanne were pregnant in real life) and Darlene all got pregnant in latter seasons, but never once did they make a new baby an Olivia/Cousin Oliver type to give the show renewed "cuteness".

Nick at Nite 2007
high point adding George Lopez and keeping it in good times
low point hardly airing Murphy Brown, only keeping Growing Pains a few weeks

It shocks me that no one has mentioned Home Improvement as a "high" moment. Weren't there many people here on the boards who were glad to see HI?

Well maybe I would have liked the show better if it wasn't a family sitcom. I mean since she titled the show-"Roseanne" they shouldn't have included the kids. More Appropiate Title for the show since kids was on there was "THE CONNORS" or "THE CONNOR FAMILY"
Well, you may have liked the original title for Roseanne: LIFE AND STUFF. I am so glad they went with ROSEANNE instead. I mean, the show is abt.....ROSEANNE. The title doesn't scream out FAMILY SHOW. It is a show abt a woman named ROSEANNE. :lol:

Well, you may have liked the original title for Roseanne: LIFE AND STUFF. I am so glad they went with ROSEANNE instead. I mean, the show is abt.....ROSEANNE. The title doesn't scream out FAMILY SHOW. It is a show abt a woman named ROSEANNE. :lol:
I agree, I think that's why it worked as well as it did. It was about Roseanne's relationships with her husband, kids and sister (and later mother when Bev came to Lanford to live). Instead of following the kids to school everyday, it was always about what Roseanne was doing first and foremost. So many shows revolve around the kids, and they work well but I think Roseanne's aspect worked just as well. I think for that very reason, a lot of people didn't truly appreciate Roseanne until they're older. I admit that I didn't really start loving the show until after I hit puberty. At the beginning, I wasn't that crazy for the show because it wasn't the type of family show I was used to, but as I got older, I appreciated the show more for being the opposite.

Well, you may have liked the original title for Roseanne: LIFE AND STUFF. I am so glad they went with ROSEANNE instead. I mean, the show is abt.....ROSEANNE. The title doesn't scream out FAMILY SHOW. It is a show abt a woman named ROSEANNE. :lol:


Maybe if I had known that ahead of time I would have enjoyed it more. I was expecting a family show

Dean, I agree what you said about the whole Madonna thing. The show may have suffered with all the controversy surrounding Roseanne at the time, but when must diehard Roseanne fans look back at the show, they feel those midseasons were Roseanne at it's best.

But, once she sang the National Anthem, the ratings stayed the same (in the top 5). But that's not the only way you should look at it. The show lost 2 million in it's third season, and it kept losing more and more viewers every season, yet it stayed at #2 or #3. All that means is while the show was a hit in the Nielsons, the overall TV viewering population had decreased around the time Roseanne was in it's early seasons (1988 - the writer's strike). So, that's what I mean when I say the show lost viewers it never gained back.

Solomon, Roseanne is a family sitcom. But that's another good point, because it was WAY more a family sitcom in it's early seasons. I feel by the time Becky moved out (season 5) the show became all about Roseanne and less about Dan and the kids. In the early seasons, there was so much more to do, with the kids still young and funny, and all the originals characters and actors still in the show. By season 7, Roseanne was having another child, we got a new Becky, Darlene was like a totally different character, DJ was growing up, and we got to see a lot more Jackie, which is probably why she got wackier at the time.

The Low Point - Adding George Lopez (Don't like the show, but that's beside the point. It's too new for N@N. It just ended last season!)

The High Point - Ditching Roseanne (I don't hate the show. However, this is one of the shows that N@N overplayed. So it's nice for me to see an overplayed show go away. I own the DVDs, plus it airs on other channels. So it's not like this show is hard to find now.)

I would count Home Improvement as a High, but I don't watch it. I do think it's a great addition to the channel since they play 90s sitcoms now. But I have the DVDs for my viewing pleasure.

Including Fresh prince as my low of the year I also forgot to mention the removal of Perfect Strangers from ION. I don't think that it has ever been treated so badly in syndication.

High Point - George Lopez...without N@N, I wouldn't have ever discovered and loved it!

Low Point - Getting rid of Roseanne and Cosby, lowering the amount of airings of Full House and completely overplay the Fresh Prince, as much as I love it!


It was time for FH to go, that show belongs on Disney

high point: adding George Lopez and Home Improvement was overall a good move, it was nice to see something else BESIDES Fresh Prince.

low point: everything else.

High, maybe Home Improvement even though I don't watch it.
Low? Princeathons up the rear night after night after night after night after night after night............................and less and less and less and less Roseanne. I miss it...dvd's don't do it for me. It's gotta be live tv at night or nothing with Roseanne for me!

It was time for FH to go, that show belongs on Disney

It's only on once a night, and at 8:30, which is technically still Nickelodeon.

But, it makes me mad that they kept this show around, when they removed Roseanne, which premiered the same time as Full House back in 2003.

It was time for FH to go, that show belongs on Disney
What Is Your Problem With Full House?

It's only on once a night, and at 8:30, which is technically still Nickelodeon.

But, it makes me mad that they kept this show around, when they removed Roseanne, which premiered the same time as Full House back in 2003.



Yeah as long as it's on before 9pm that's cool-lol

Just a question.....is The Nanny still coming next year? I remember it was exclusive and they paid a pretty big price for it. Or is it going to TV Land?

Seems like we should be hearing something sometime in the near future.

Just a question.....is The Nanny still coming next year? I remember it was exclusive and they paid a pretty big price for it. Or is it going to TV Land?

Seems like we should be hearing something sometime in the near future.

According to TVLtheLink, Family Matters, The Nanny, and Friends have already been bought and payed for, so they are for sure coming at some point to Nick at Nite. I believe The Nanny was supposed to come in February 2009, but I could be wrong.

How well do you think The Nanny will do on NAN? I really doing think it'll be a huge success. Maybe minor . . . it'll probably stay around longer than a month.