View Full Version : Reason I heard more than once why Angie was cancelled


those70sshows
12-28-2007, 05:27 AM
I heard quite a few times that Angie was doing very well in the ratings. ABC was trying to find the perfect time slot for the sagging ratings of laverne & shirley. Angie ended up moving from different nights and airtimes and the ratings went down due to viewers not knowing when it was on. So it was up to cancelling laverne & shirley or Angie and Gary Marshall had alot of power at abc and so they decided to keep penny marshall's show and cancel angie

Mr. Television
12-28-2007, 11:31 AM
I don't think that was it because Garry Marshall was also the producer of Angie. They made too many changes during season 2 and they just lost their audience. I loved season 1.

TVFactFan
12-28-2007, 11:56 AM
I don't think that was it because Garry Marshall was also the producer of Angie. They made too many changes during season 2 and they just lost their audience. I loved season 1.


I have 4 episodes and never saw season 1. I would like to see that season

TVFactFan
12-28-2007, 11:57 AM
I heard quite a few times that Angie was doing very well in the ratings. ABC was trying to find the perfect time slot for the sagging ratings of laverne & shirley. Angie ended up moving from different nights and airtimes and the ratings went down due to viewers not knowing when it was on. So it was up to cancelling laverne & shirley or Angie and Gary Marshall had alot of power at abc and so they decided to keep penny marshall's show and cancel angie

Welcome to the board and I really hope you stick around since you are into 70's shows like me. And you are from PA like me

treky
01-03-2008, 03:21 AM
And me, too!:)

Scoobiedoo30
02-08-2008, 02:51 PM
Maybe Angie was getting Low Ratings at the time

Jude The Obscure
02-10-2008, 01:01 AM
It was getting low ratings because ABC treated the show like dirt.

TVFactFan
02-10-2008, 04:34 PM
It was getting low ratings because ABC treated the show like dirt.


Yeah ABC played musical timeslots with Angie in season 2

Tuesdays at 8:30pm, then Mondays at 8:30pm, then Saturdays at 8pm and then back to it's original slot at 8:30pm on Thursdays which was TOO LATE by that time.

Jude The Obscure
02-13-2008, 11:11 PM
Wasn't fall 1980 when the actors strike was still going on? Explains why Angie was still being reran through October.

TVFactFan
02-14-2008, 02:22 AM
Wasn't fall 1980 when the actors strike was still going on? Explains why Angie was still being reran through October.



Yup the new seeason didn't start until november of 1980

ajm1972
08-26-2008, 04:28 PM
There's a great book on all those classic Paramount shows I'm reading now and it mentions why Angie was canceled.

Aj

TVFactFan
08-26-2008, 05:56 PM
There's a great book on all those classic Paramount shows I'm reading now and it mentions why Angie was canceled.

Aj



You keep books a secret too like you do rare tv shows? I would have thought you would have just mentioned the name of the book

Scoobiedoo30
08-26-2008, 06:00 PM
keep what book a secter

ajm1972
08-27-2008, 12:11 AM
No secret, I was just too lazy to look up the title:

Happier Days: Paramount Television's Classic Sitcoms 1974-1984

http://www.amazon.com/Happier-Days-Paramount-Televisions-1974-1984/dp/0823089339/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219810247&sr=8-2

Schmoopie
08-27-2008, 02:19 AM
No secret, I was just too lazy to look up the title:

Happier Days: Paramount Television's Classic Sitcoms 1974-1984

http://www.amazon.com/Happier-Days-Paramount-Televisions-1974-1984/dp/0823089339/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219810247&sr=8-2
Thanks for sharing this info about the book! It sounds interesting!

Andrea

TVFactFan
08-27-2008, 08:07 PM
Thanks for sharing this info about the book! It sounds interesting!

Andrea



I tried ordering it yesterday but amazon was all out of stock

comedyfreak
10-08-2008, 05:44 AM
I heard quite a few times that Angie was doing very well in the ratings. ABC was trying to find the perfect time slot for the sagging ratings of laverne & shirley. Angie ended up moving from different nights and airtimes and the ratings went down due to viewers not knowing when it was on. So it was up to cancelling laverne & shirley or Angie and Gary Marshall had alot of power at abc and so they decided to keep penny marshall's show and cancel angie
This is true. I went to the Hollywood Collector's show over the weekend and met Donna Pescow. According to Donna, ABC and so many hit shows at the time they didn't know what to do with Angie. The show bounced around and was cancelled.

TVFactFan
10-08-2008, 07:10 PM
This is true. I went to the Hollywood Collector's show over the weekend and met Donna Pescow. According to Donna, ABC and so many hit shows at the time they didn't know what to do with Angie. The show bounced around and was cancelled.


I'm just amazed that a show that finished in the Top 5 in the first season was not given more than a year to bounce back by ABC-lol

comedyfreak
10-08-2008, 11:48 PM
Yeah it's a shame. I bet if it had been now they'd jump at the chance to find it a place on the schedule. They seemed snobbish at the time.

Mr. Television
10-08-2008, 11:53 PM
Maybe Garry Marshall was given a choice of which show to save and since L&S had been a major hit and his sister starred in it, he chose that one. He probably made the wrong choice because L&S's best years were behind them and Angie was still growing.

70s show watcher
10-10-2008, 04:54 AM
Thanks for sharing this info about the book! It sounds interesting!

Andreai have that book i highly recommend it

Don Howard
10-14-2008, 04:34 PM
i have that book i highly recommend it
Thanks to the posted link, I've just ordered it and am looking forward to its arrival. Appreciate the info.

TVFactFan
10-25-2008, 10:48 AM
I'm going to see if I can find the book on Ebay, because it will be CHEAPER and delivered a lot FASTER

Don Howard
10-29-2008, 12:13 PM
While it's an interesting book, be aware there are quite a few errors contained within. For one, it was Harold Gould who played Howard in the Love, American Style episode, not Tom Bosley. Also, the title of that episode was Love And The Happy Days and not Love In The Happy Days. In addition, the last episode of Happy Days did not run on November 11, 1983 as claimed. It ran original shows through 1984. Also, the second season started in 1974, not 1975. Plus, Al Molinaro did not come to Arnold's in the second season; it was the fourth. Further, The Cop And The Kid began in December 1975; not September 1975. Just a taste of the many errors within the tome. The behind-the-scenes tales remain good, but if one is going to put dates on these things, they should be accurate. And it's not that hard to check.

TVFactFan
10-29-2008, 07:02 PM
While it's an interesting book, be aware there are quite a few errors contained within. For one, it was Harold Gould who played Howard in the Love, American Style episode, not Tom Bosley. Also, the title of that episode was Love And The Happy Days and not Love In The Happy Days. In addition, the last episode of Happy Days did not run on November 11, 1983 as claimed. It ran original shows through 1984. Also, the second season started in 1974, not 1975. Plus, Al Molinaro did not come to Arnold's in the second season; it was the fourth. Further, The Cop And The Kid began in December 1975; not September 1975. Just a taste of the many errors within the tome. The behind-the-scenes tales remain good, but if one is going to put dates on these things, they should be accurate. And it's not that hard to check.



Well I'm not buying the book then, that is way too many errors for me to take anything seriously that was printed in that book. And you was right Cop and the Kid started the same onth as the Sanford and Son spinoff-"grady". Thanks but no thanks

Jude The Obscure
12-23-2008, 02:22 AM
I didn't know why the producers/writers felt the need for Angie to dump the coffee shop and buy a hair salon. :lol:

And sad that ABC felt the need to dump a hit show.

catlover79
12-23-2008, 02:30 AM
I didn't know why the producers/writers felt the need for Angie to dump the coffee shop and buy a hair salon. :lol:

And sad that ABC felt the need to dump a hit show.
So true - what a shame, and a waste of a good cast. :(

catlover79
12-23-2008, 02:31 AM
No secret, I was just too lazy to look up the title:

Happier Days: Paramount Television's Classic Sitcoms 1974-1984

http://www.amazon.com/Happier-Days-Paramount-Televisions-1974-1984/dp/0823089339/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219810247&sr=8-2
I've flipped through this book a couple of times but never got to read it the whole way through. The local library has it so I may check it out next time I'm there.

Jude The Obscure
12-23-2008, 02:32 AM
And oddly this same ABC brought back Angie YEARS later for daytime summer reruns!!

Too bad Donna and Robert Hays don't get together and do a new "Angie and Brad" sitcom.....shoot Doris Roberts could be back as Angie's mom! :D

catlover79
12-23-2008, 02:37 AM
And oddly this same ABC brought back Angie YEARS later for daytime summer reruns!!

Too bad Donna and Robert Hays don't get together and do a new "Angie and Brad" sitcom.....shoot Doris Roberts could be back as Angie's mom! :D
Yes, Doris went on to not one but TWO successful shows - Remington Steele and of course, ELR. What a comedic gem that woman is. :D

Jude The Obscure
12-23-2008, 02:46 AM
Ever notice how Tammy Lauren's character disappeared without mention when season 2 came on? :lol:

TVFactFan
12-23-2008, 08:03 PM
Ever notice how Tammy Lauren's character disappeared without mention when season 2 came on? :lol:


It was only a hit in season 1

catlover79
12-23-2008, 08:05 PM
Ever notice how Tammy Lauren's character disappeared without mention when season 2 came on? :lol:
I guess she's in the Island of Misfit TV Characters along with Chuck Cunningham, Judy Winslow, Carl Dixon, etc. :lol:

Jude The Obscure
12-23-2008, 08:21 PM
Gee, Solomon.....what makes you say that? it was only a hit in season 1?
:lol:

Relax, I'm just yanking the ole Sol chain :D

(But that has no bearing on why Tammy's character disappeared)

TVFactFan
09-18-2010, 10:16 AM
I believe beung sandwiched between Happy Days and Three's Company was a result of season 1 success.

Kasey
10-26-2010, 02:26 PM
It aired Tuesday nights in Season 2 and was cancelled.

Season 1 "Angie" followed "Mork and Mindy" on Thursdays at 8:30 and that is where it got its high ratings.

TVFactFan
10-26-2010, 07:59 PM
It aired Tuesday nights in Season 2 and was cancelled.

Season 1 "Angie" followed "Mork and Mindy" on Thursdays at 8:30 and that is where it got its high ratings.


I believe it aired after happy days in season 1

Kasey
10-27-2010, 02:05 PM
It aired Thurs at 8:30 from Feb-Aug 1979

Tues at 8:30 from Sept 1979 to Jan 1980

Mon 8:30 from Jan-Feb 1980

Sat 8:00 in April 1980

Thurs 8:30 July-Oct 1980

Schmo
07-15-2019, 04:58 PM
I believe beung sandwiched between Happy Days and Three's Company was a result of season 1 success.

“Angie” was moved between “Happy Days” and “Three’s Company” at the start of its second season. Even though “HD” and “TC” both were hits, “Angie”’s ratings dropped. Perhaps changes to its plot played a role.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angie_(TV_series)#Cancellation

TVFactFan
07-15-2019, 08:25 PM
“Angie” was moved between “Happy Days” and “Three’s Company” at the start of its second season. Even though “HD” and “TC” both were hits, “Angie”’s ratings dropped. Perhaps changes to its plot played a role.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angie_(TV_series)#Cancellation


Damm just saw that Angie aired after Mork and Mindy, Happy Days and Laverne and Shirley and still has dog sh*T ratings:lol::lol:

someguy23475
06-23-2020, 05:34 AM
It’s been a long time since I’ve seen the show, but if memory serves changing the plot constantly doomed the show. They shouldn’t have married Angie and Brad so soon, for one. Didn’t her line of work and even the house change several times in just a season and a half?

Kasey
06-23-2020, 08:54 AM
Yes, the workplace setting moved from a coffee shop to a beauty salon, and the house went from a mansion to smaller but still upscale home. The butler was featured in S2 and would have made more sense in the mansion episodes, but he was a good character, sharp-tongued like Niles on "The Nanny".

TVFactFan
06-23-2020, 08:57 AM
It’s been a long time since I’ve seen the show, but if memory serves changing the plot constantly doomed the show. They shouldn’t have married Angie and Brad so soon, for one. Didn’t her line of work and even the house change several times in just a season and a half?

the show didnt need any changing after finishing top 5 during its first season.

btw: i had no idea this show was complete on dvd

RetroTVNitekatt
07-11-2020, 01:56 AM
the show didnt need any changing after finishing top 5 during its first season.....

...and neither did "Mork and Mindy" being a top 3 show in its first season...

Is it any wonder ABC started to slip after the 1978-1979 season?

(and I won't mention the mess and mishandling of the later seasons of "Charlie's Angels" around the same time period,too!)

TVFactFan
07-11-2020, 02:00 AM
...and neither did "Mork and Mindy" being a top 3 show in its first season...

Is it any wonder ABC started to slip after the 1978-1979 season?

(and I won't mention the mess and mishandling of the later seasons of "Charlie's Angels" around the same time period,too!)

And I still havent found ratings for the 79-80 season so I have no clue what the ratings were for season 2

TV Guy
10-11-2020, 07:33 PM
Angie had the misfortune of moving behind Happy Days the season HD tumbled out of the top 10, to number 17. That certainly didn’t help. ABC really bungled things that year - splitting up the popular HD/Laverne & Shirley block (they were more popular together than apart), and needlessly revamping breakout hit Mork and Mindy and moving it to Sundays. They needlessly revamped Angie too - how incredibly stupid. Mork and Mindy and Laverne & Shirley eventually moved back to their original slots before the season was over, but the damage was done - neither ever ranked in the top 10 again. L&S was the number one show on TV before ABC moved it around. smh

TVFactFan
10-11-2020, 08:17 PM
Angie had the misfortune of moving behind Happy Days the season HD tumbled out of the top 10, to number 17. That certainly didn’t help. ABC really bungled things that year - splitting up the popular HD/Laverne & Shirley block (they were more popular together than apart), and needlessly revamping breakout hit Mork and Mindy and moving it to Sundays. They needlessly revamped Angie too - how incredibly stupid. Mork and Mindy and Laverne & Shirley eventually moved back to their original slots before the season was over, but the damage was done - neither ever ranked in the top 10 again. L&S was the number one show on TV before ABC moved it around. smh

yeah Angie followed Mork and Mindy during its hit season which explained the high ratings

icecream
10-11-2020, 08:28 PM
I really liked Debralee Scott and Doris Roberts as supporting players. But the married couple who were the leads were just average. Also, the gorgeous house of the doctor when Angie started out was replaced with a lesser house that was a lot less appealing.

TVFactFan
10-11-2020, 09:28 PM
wonder if this show got a DVD release because of Doris Roberts

Cbalducc
10-12-2020, 11:04 AM
Has Donna Pescow ever talked about “Angie”? I want to know if she thought ABC’s fumbling of the series hurt her career.

TVFactFan
10-27-2020, 01:13 AM
Has Donna Pescow ever talked about “Angie”? I want to know if she thought ABC’s fumbling of the series hurt her career.

She has had a long acting career and still active.