View Full Version : If you could buy a drink for someone from UM...
justins5256 12-14-2007, 08:48 PM who would it be?
My picks:
Glen Consagra - he would have to come clean about what really happened on the spoilbank though.
Jule Caylor - just because.
Robert Stack - anything on the menu and then some.
Jackie Edmonds - would have to keep an eye on the drinks though.
Your thoughts?
Ireneparalegal 12-14-2007, 11:48 PM That woman who poisoned her husband's milkshakes and later claimed it was because he was abusive to her.
I would make her a "milkshake" and put her through what she put her husband through. ;)
wiseguy182 12-15-2007, 01:10 AM Bob Bean. Definitely Bob Bean.
But you absolutely knew I was going to say that.
Also, Lisa Penz. I'm sure she would have a whole bag of stories to share.
DarkDante 12-15-2007, 03:20 AM Oh easy - for me it would have to be the one, the only...
G. Daniel Walker
nobody else comes close in my mind
mozartpc27 12-15-2007, 06:57 PM If they were both still around, the Wackers. Really, what the hell was going on?
ididn'tdoit 12-15-2007, 07:40 PM Don Smith :lol:
unsolved88 12-15-2007, 08:18 PM Don Smith :lol:
Be careful, or he might whip you and anyone else in the bar! :lol:
SiberianKiss 12-16-2007, 08:18 AM the bank robbers who tunneled their way into vaults.
they're in my avatar :)
Corky Kneivel 12-16-2007, 12:14 PM I'd buy a drink for the "Angel" that hit up that retired couple down in Florida for iced tea and sammiches. That way, every Christmas I'll receive checks for like a bazillion smackers! All i gotta do is find the guy, and that shouldn't be too hard...just got to find a well dressed man walking from Houston to Boca Raton and back.
eunos_rsh 12-16-2007, 02:50 PM Not strictly *from* UM, but definitely connected - i would buy a drink for CrystalDawn for doing all these superb DVD compilations!! :lol:
Corky Kneivel 12-16-2007, 07:01 PM I'd buy a ton of drinks for Donald W. Marcari, the attorney for David Cox, just so i could keep screaming at him, "YOU can't handle the TRUTH!!!"
justins5256 12-17-2007, 11:03 AM so let me get this straight, they rob a bank and you want to reward them with drinks? :rolleyes:
Yikes! Well, a lot of the people suggested in this thread have done some pretty heinous stuff and the idea of buying them drinks was meant as a joke, not that **I** actually would buy drinks for some of these people or that I'm saying anyone should. Well, maybe I would buy one for Stack if he was still around.
hovaslash 12-17-2007, 11:25 AM If you could get the Yeti, Chupacabra, the gold foil sweating woman, and Rainboy at one place at one time, drinks are on me! :cool:
If you could get the Yeti, Chupacabra, the gold foil sweating woman, and Rainboy at one place at one time, drinks are on me! :cool:
What a great thread!!!!
I would have to choose Robert of course. Maybe I could get him good and liquored up and get lucky!! ;)
I love Bob Bean too, I'd love to saddle up next to him with a cold one. I bet he'd be a hoot drunk!!!
That's all for now, there are way too many to pick just one!
ididn'tdoit 12-17-2007, 03:02 PM I would have to choose Robert of course. Maybe I could get him good and liquored up and get lucky!! ;)
Hahaha, geez you crack me up, Kamy! :lol:
I love Bob Bean too, I'd love to saddle up next to him with a cold one. I bet he'd be a hoot drunk!!!
Or even better, how about Bean, Snead and Wheeler all together, that'd be something! :crazy:
UMfan77 12-18-2007, 12:01 PM Chad Noe
Paul Pollis
Terry McClure
Wayne Hecker
We'd all have a roundtable discussion on how they SWEAR that they're innocent of murder. And then after they get hammered, I'll see how often their stories change. :D
soilentgreen 12-18-2007, 04:12 PM We'd all have a roundtable discussion on how they SWEAR that they're innocent of murder. And then after they get hammered, I'll see how often their stories change. :D
Watch out--they might claim they make false confessions during their "drunken stupors". .:lol:
unsolvedfan4life 12-18-2007, 04:16 PM Cool thread, definatlly Robert Stack since he is a cool dude and probably would have some wild stories from his "hey day" as a ladies man.
Danny Wheeler- Since he likes to bar hop.
Perman Gilbert - If he was still alive
Bob Bean- What the hell, he would probally be funny.
And who could forget the women who went around like Thelma and Louise, BTW a great recreatement LOL:lol:
LooksLikeCRicci 12-19-2007, 12:20 AM Paul Pollis. Hands down.
Oh, and I'd need Dislimb with me in case Pollis got frisky. A girl's gotta have her muscle! :)
TeresaB24 12-20-2007, 02:02 PM The Whackers. *sigh* I just hope noone is knocking on their graves then running away. :)
wiseguy182 06-29-2016, 01:08 AM BUMP after almost a decade.
Charles Scheel. I always enjoyed his segment. Seems like he'd be a real hoot.
MegtheEgg86 06-29-2016, 07:15 AM Jeff Oberholtzer. Poor dude deserves a few after the times he's had.
Bruce freakin' Hackert.
TheCars1986 06-29-2016, 08:45 AM Tim McClure's wife.
DALLASTEXAN!! 06-29-2016, 12:01 PM BUMP after almost a decade.
Haha
Chad noe maybe in a drunken stupor he would confess on tape.
All sarcasm aside here's my short list.
Bashir from L'enfant. He seems like he has some great stories to tell.
William rolle to see if he cuts loose after a drink.
For those that passed away. Matt Flores TK hardy and DB cooper.
Mysteryphile 07-10-2016, 08:20 AM Right away I thought of Jay Durham (the man who's motorcycle was hit by a semi and then he was left for dead). It's amazing that he survived it and the least I could do is buy him a drink!
Had to edit it this because I just read that he's died! Wow I'm so shocked and sad to read that!
macbeth06 04-20-2017, 12:01 AM Lenaord dickens and Resurrection Mary and Robert stack.
DALLASTEXAN!! 04-20-2017, 04:08 AM Can't remember his first name, but last name is/was Ballard. featured on the dan tondevold segment. he seemed like a good and interesting fellow. he came off sarcastic, but in a good way.
TheCars1986 04-20-2017, 09:35 AM Don Smith would've been fun too.
freakbook 04-20-2017, 09:42 AM Don Smith would've been fun too.
It would've been fun until he started whipping you in a fight.
freakbook 04-20-2017, 09:46 AM I'd choose Jeffrey Digman's father. After a couple of drinks I'd tell him that his hair piece is doing more bad then good, and isn't fooling anyone.
TheCars1986 04-20-2017, 09:48 AM It would've been fun until he started whipping you in a fight.
That's why it would be fun. I'm a sucker for pain.
freakbook 04-20-2017, 09:59 AM That's why it would be fun. I'm a sucker for pain.
:lol: :lol:
asmitty 04-20-2017, 11:01 AM Danny Wheeler - That guys is a talker, and I'm a guy who likes listening to talkers
Jeff Oberholtzer - He seemed like a super chill and laid-back dude.
Don Dixon - I developed a very specific mental image of this guy from his appearance on UM, and one very specific post on here that was probably written by him. I'd like to see if it was accurate. For the record, I don't believe that Don Dixon was involved in the murder of Eric Tamiyasu. I think the Eric Tamiyasu case is similar to the Sammy Wheeler case in that it's highly probable that none of the three suspects presented were involved. I think both Eric and Sammy were cases where UM played up these three oddball characters rather than focusing on the facts.
freakbook 04-20-2017, 11:10 AM I know that she's on this forum, but I'm going to say Dale Kerstetter's daughters.
Because I'm a scumbag. Sorry Penny. Hi penny.
dynoguy88 04-20-2017, 11:14 AM Paul Pollis. Hands down.
I keep going back to him. Get him really liquored up and then ask if he actually likes cleaning his house or is it just something he does after a murder.
Robert Stack is too obvious a choice of someone you'd want to buy a drink for because you'd actually ENJOY his company. And it would be the perfect opportunity to ask him to record the message for your voicemail.
DALLASTEXAN!! 04-20-2017, 03:21 PM Don Smith would've been fun too.
That is the winner for this thread. RIP to him.
DazzlerSparkler 04-22-2017, 12:28 AM How could you not tell me about this thread!
Sharon Kinne, her actress, and her affinity for MARGARITAAAAAS!!!!!!
Also I like to think that Nelson DeCloud might be a drinker? Of course we would have to go to the bar in our socks. But what would he drink?.....
Hot Jock 04-22-2017, 02:15 AM Paul Freshour, but sadly he is deceased. Talk about someone getting absolutely railroaded.
Out of all of the surviving UM alums, either Jeff Oberholtzer or Jay Bible. They are both super down to earth guys that seem very likable despite losing somebody close to them.
DALLASTEXAN!! 04-22-2017, 07:48 AM The two Southampton gents that put on the crop circle prank. Hands down the best update on amazon.
This is some thread. On a show filled with people that you would never want to drink with.
Joan Jeffries' daughter, because she looks good!
Charlie99909 04-22-2017, 10:18 PM Actually, the twin sister actresses in the reenactment of the where one is on a date and the the other is home, they're cute. The accent when she says: "sis has been in an accident!" gets me every time.
Jade_Curtiss 04-22-2017, 10:47 PM I'd buy Chad Noe and his entire family a drink...laced with arsenic.
DazzlerSparkler 04-23-2017, 12:47 AM Marie Hilley would be perfect. Cept she'd poison you
LooksLikeCRicci 04-23-2017, 05:47 PM Marie Hilley would be perfect. Cept she'd poison you
Only if she had something to gain from your demise. The chances are greater she'd pose as her "twin" sister Teri. :D
DALLASTEXAN!! 04-24-2017, 03:30 PM Only if she had something to gain from your demise. The chances are greater she'd pose as her "twin" sister Teri. :D
I love the scene where she's sitting at the bar and stack says "the Bobbi character was skillfully and deliberately created. She was attractive, she was available, she was going to be rich, and she might die in the near future. The possibilities seemed endless."
LooksLikeCRicci 04-24-2017, 04:32 PM I love the scene where she's sitting at the bar and stack says "the Bobbi character was skillfully and deliberately created. She was attractive, she was available, she was going to be rich, and she might die in the near future. The possibilities seemed endless."
YES! Totally agree. LOVED the Stack narration on that, too.
flytrapp 04-25-2017, 09:26 PM What a fantastic thread!!!
Gus Hoffman's mom, for sure. The lady would stop at nothing and probably put herself in potential danger snooping around for answers at biker bars. She deserves a few shots. Same with Amy Billig's mom!
freakbook 04-25-2017, 10:43 PM Katie, the gold sweating psychic. Get her drunk enough and see if she can drip some of that gold from those butt cheeks into my mouth, nomsayin'?
LakeForestPI 04-26-2017, 01:19 PM I would buy a drink for Fahmy Malay. He was the medical examiner in Arkansas who handled the case of the boys on the tracks or friends till the end. Henry and Ives. I'd love to ask him what if any personal dealing he had with Bill Clinton. I'd also invite FreakBook n Macbeth to the tavern I'm having this get together. But I don't think Freakbook n Macbeth can be in the same place at the same time.
freakbook 04-26-2017, 01:32 PM I would buy a drink for Fahmy Malay. He was the medical examiner in Arkansas who handled the case of the boys on the tracks or friends till the end. Henry and Ives. I'd love to ask him what if any personal dealing he had with Bill Clinton. I'd also invite FreakBook n Macbeth to the tavern I'm having this get together. But I don't think Freakbook n Macbeth can be in the same place at the same time.
Relax big guy. Macbeth is played out now. Shhhh.
LakeForestPI 04-26-2017, 02:44 PM Relax big guy. Macbeth is played out now. Shhhh.
I'm calmer than you are
freakbook 04-26-2017, 03:23 PM I'm calmer than you are
:smooch:
Mr827 04-27-2017, 01:53 PM I'd have to say Danny Wheeler for sure. I would hope I could meet him there just by co-in-si-dence...just by co-in-si-dence.
Tammy the brothel owner. She seems like a good conversationalist
Judyhymesisalive 04-30-2017, 01:59 PM I'd definitely buy a drink for Bob Bean! Paul Freshour but I think he died. Also John Purvis, I felt so bad for him and he looks like a nice man.
sdb4884 05-02-2017, 10:43 AM Donald Smith - He'd whip everyones butt in the bar too.
LakeForestPI 05-02-2017, 10:52 AM Donald Smith - He'd whip everyones butt in the bar too.
Not if I was there
DALLASTEXAN!! 05-02-2017, 12:59 PM Not if I was there
thats not saying much. Anyone could whip him but who actually would? A murderer did...
thats not saying much. Anyone could whip him but who actually would? A murderer did...
I seem to remember him yelling "I'll whip anyone in here!" in the segment, which is what sdb was referring to. All you'd have to do is push him over he was so drunk.
But it's good to know we have internet tough guys around :lol:
DALLASTEXAN!! 05-02-2017, 02:40 PM I seem to remember him yelling "I'll whip anyone in here!" in the segment, which is what sdb was referring to. All you'd have to do is push him over he was so drunk.
But it's good to know we have internet tough guys around :lol:
Yeah one of the best UM lines ever. And yeah there are a few ultimate warriors on here now.
LakeForestPI 05-02-2017, 06:03 PM But it's good to know we have internet tough guys around :lol:
When I was in my early and mid 20's I was in way too many actual bar fights. I retired undefeated when my girlfriend at the time, who is now my wife, said she would break up with me if I was ever in a fight again. That combined with the fact I stopped drinking and have an FCC, Firearm Control Card, which allows me to carry like a police officer, I have no need to use my fists on loud mouths at bars anymore. But 10 years ago, Oh Baby!
compulsive dvd 05-02-2017, 09:46 PM I'd love to buy Oliver Munson a drink, so we could have a serious talk about that Datsun.
LakeForestPI 05-03-2017, 06:19 AM I'd love to buy Oliver Munson a drink, so we could have a serious talk about that Datsun.
What about Oliver's brother, Biff Munson? Word on the street is that he was an even bigger character than Oliver
freakbook 05-03-2017, 10:13 AM When I was in my early and mid 20's I was in way too many actual bar fights.
All of those blows to the head explain alot.
Was just thinking of two people who I should buy a drink for, just because they need one:
Lisa Penz - so much built up frustration from poor choices in the job applicant pool, and having her identity stolen by "Bonnie Wilder" (quotes because that was not her real name).
Charles Horvath's mom - just out of compassion someone needs to buy her a few drinks, she's been through a living hell.
LooksLikeCRicci 05-03-2017, 12:01 PM I'd love to buy Oliver Munson a drink, so we could have a serious talk about that Datsun.
Totally inappropriate, but that made me laugh. :D
You have to feel for Oliver's friends/family/students. He was presented as such a nice man. It's such a shame.
LakeForestPI 05-03-2017, 12:21 PM All of those blows to the head explain alot.
I did have my eye socket broken. That was an incredible amount of pain. The whole side of my face n eye were swollen for a few weeks. I'll never forget the look on my roommates face when I landed in that night.
siamesemeg 05-03-2017, 12:40 PM Totally inappropriate, but that made me laugh. :D
You have to feel for Oliver's friends/family/students. He was presented as such a nice man. It's such a shame.
I know. This is another one that still makes me sad. Maybe some of you feel the same, but it really boggles me that people can just disappear - especially under such alarming circumstances - and never be found. I can't imagine what it would feel like to lose a family member and not know what happened to them for over 30 years.
Sorry! That's a bummer for this funny thread.
I'd buy a drink for Angie Hammond's mom. I feel like she needs a hug, even after all this time. Also, I had Angie's bangs back then and I called my boyfriend from payphones often enough, so I feel a kinship with that poor girl.
freakbook 05-03-2017, 12:41 PM I did have my eye socket broken. That was an incredible amount of pain. The whole side of my face n eye were swollen for a few weeks. I'll never forget the look on my roommates face when I landed in that night.
Jesus dude. I used to get in quite a few fights, but nothing that bad. Glad you're good though
LakeForestPI 05-03-2017, 01:26 PM I was an absolute maniac in college when I was drinking. For a few years after as well. Thankfully I was never arrested for my shenanigans. I knew a lot of the Chicago cops in the neighborhood where I used to do my drinking n that saved me a few times. Eventually it got to where I had to get serious about my career and stop all the drinking before something serious happened.
88keys 05-03-2017, 01:38 PM Lois Duncan. She was one of my favorite authors growing up.
Steve W. 05-05-2017, 01:30 AM who would it be?
My picks:
Glen Consagra - he would have to come clean about what really happened on the spoilbank though.
Jule Caylor - just because.
Robert Stack - anything on the menu and then some.
Jackie Edmonds - would have to keep an eye on the drinks though.
Your thoughts?
Mine:
Kurt Sova
Jack Davis, Jr.
freakbook 05-05-2017, 06:52 AM Mine:
Kurt Sova
I don't think he would need anymore drinks.
LooksLikeCRicci 05-05-2017, 01:02 PM Mine:
Kurt Sova
Jack Davis, Jr.
Jack Davis, Jr. is one of those segments I wish got more damned attention. I probably have a soft spot for him because he resembles one of my brothers. But I find the circumstances of his death freaking fascinating. He clearly did not die in the stairwell, but was placed there. He was last seen freshly shaven, but found with stubble on his face. What the heck happened over the course of those two days?
Maybe he could tell us.
flytrapp 05-05-2017, 01:10 PM Even though she wasn't in the actual segment, I'd buy Tim McClure's now ex-wife lots of drinks to see if she would spill the details. Apparently Tim's daughter posted on UM site stating she was told by her mom that her father (Tim) had no family. Another McClure family member posted there as well saying the whole family believes he is guilty.
Steve W. 05-05-2017, 02:23 PM I don't think he would need anymore drinks.
I know. I couldn't help myself. I apologize to any friends or family of his (or Jack's) that might read it.
MissFit29 05-07-2017, 11:19 AM My pick is Bill Jacobson from the Dorothy Allison segment. Daughter goes missing and the cops didn't do a damn thing. That man SEARCHED and actually found the area where her body was dumped. He deserves a few.
dynoguy88 05-07-2017, 02:39 PM My pick is Bill Jacobson from the Dorothy Allison segment. Daughter goes missing and the cops didn't do a damn thing. That man SEARCHED and actually found the area where her body was dumped. He deserves a few.
A victim of the times. This happened in 1976. I had this conversation with Robin in the podcast thread. You were royally screwed if your child went missing prior to the late 80's because police would always write them off as runaways. Even if they were happy, had tons of friends, did well in school and had no logical reason to run away, it didn't matter.
Good choice, though. The Dorothy Allison segment was one of my first memories of UM as a kid.
charmedsignora 07-07-2017, 04:53 PM She doesn't seem like the type of person to drink, but I'd buy a drink for Zel Loseff. She lived to be 101 years old, and never learned the truth about her son.
One of the hosts. Or the lady co-host, Virginia.
flytrapp 07-07-2017, 10:28 PM Charmedsignora, I agree that Zel would be a good choice. From what the segment suggested, it sounded like Zel's daughter-in-law had enough drinks for everyone, though.
Necco 07-07-2017, 10:52 PM Angela Hammond's baby. They would be old enough by now and that would mean Angela and the baby didn't fall victim to a murderer.
DazzlerSparkler 07-08-2017, 01:30 AM Angela Hammond's baby. They would be old enough by now and that would mean Angela and the baby didn't fall victim to a murderer.
https://68.media.tumblr.com/cafd74179121e455c36ecd78471a2010/tumblr_o81oyzmgc31vqstrbo7_500.gif
Anyway I would have a drink with Steve Dahl. He could tell me how many LGBTQ clubs are around town. I've never been to one
Necco 07-08-2017, 11:43 AM https://68.media.tumblr.com/cafd74179121e455c36ecd78471a2010/tumblr_o81oyzmgc31vqstrbo7_500.gif
Anyway I would have a drink with Steve Dahl. He could tell me how many LGBTQ clubs are around town. I've never been to one
I was trying to be optimistic, not creepy. I assumed this thread meant to sit down and have a conversation with someone.
WishfulDreamer 07-08-2017, 12:46 PM I was trying to be optimistic, not creepy. I assumed this thread meant to sit down and have a conversation with someone.
I thought it was a lovely sentiment. The baby would be all grown up if he/she didn't come to harm. It would be really great if that was the case.
freakbook 07-08-2017, 10:22 PM https://68.media.tumblr.com/cafd74179121e455c36ecd78471a2010/tumblr_o81oyzmgc31vqstrbo7_500.gif
:lol: :lol:
ChandlerMurielB1 07-09-2017, 02:06 PM Danny Wheeler
dynoguy88 07-09-2017, 02:41 PM I thought it was a lovely sentiment. The baby would be all grown up if he/she didn't come to harm. It would be really great if that was the case.
Kind of surreal to think that the baby would be about 26 years old today.
LooksLikeCRicci 07-10-2017, 11:48 AM Kind of surreal to think that the baby would be about 26 years old today.
Yeah, my mind kind of exploded after I did the math.
It's crazy how we think time stands still on these until we take a closer look.
Dude111 03-07-2026, 08:23 AM I would buy Bobby a Pepsi or Coke :)
I dont know anyone else from the show after Bobby as I stopped watching it...... I think UMs best times was during Bobbys tenure....
DALLASTEXAN!! 03-07-2026, 01:51 PM I would buy Bobby a Pepsi or Coke :)
I dont know anyone else from the show after Bobby as I stopped watching it...... I think UMs best times was during Bobbys tenure....
Nice Bump :)
I forgot about this thread. can't believe how much time has gone by. I don't like the original ones that I picked. I think I was being cheeky which may have been the intent of the thread.
RS is obvious. but in reality I would pick Fritz Vicken as my #1. his story telling is from a time in history that really needs to be told so much more than it was. we need that now more than ever.
Dude111 03-07-2026, 05:53 PM Yea your right buddy :(
Clockwork 03-07-2026, 06:51 PM The girl from the "Laurie" rape episode. What a fun interview to watch, she was so cool. Honestly, just a hero. Christina Steinbergs is her name.
Norman Radner's mother was so sweet and tender. I wouldn't buy her a drink, I'd take her out to dinner just for all she's been through.
tvscript124 03-09-2026, 01:46 PM What a great thread!!!!
I would have to choose Robert of course. Maybe I could get him good and liquored up and get lucky!! ;)
I love Bob Bean too, I'd love to saddle up next to him with a cold one. I bet he'd be a hoot drunk!!!
That's all for now, there are way too many to pick just one!
Ben and Sierra on the "Unsolved Couple" podcast (if you haven't listened, check it out) were waxing poetic about RS recently on their show. Ben, who is married to Sierra, called RS "a stud." Hey, guys know!
Allierain 03-23-2026, 02:30 PM For sure I would buy Liz Carmichael a drink. Spending an hour with her would have been compelling. What’s sad is that she was clearly a highly intelligent person, she just put that brainpower to use in a scam. In turn I would also buy drinks for all five of her kids. Spending an hour with them would be similarly fascinating.
StackTime 03-23-2026, 07:37 PM For sure I would buy Liz Carmichael a drink. Spending an hour with her would have been compelling. What’s sad is that she was clearly a highly intelligent person, she just put that brainpower to use in a scam. In turn I would also buy drinks for all five of her kids. Spending an hour with them would be similarly fascinating.
Well, careful what you're signing up for my friend. The man formerly known as Jerry Dean Michael? I'd be at least watching my wallet. Better yet would stay home. Then buy a Honda.
DALLASTEXAN!! 03-23-2026, 08:02 PM this makes me think of a thread where maybe you don't want to accept a drink from certain people featured on UM. or spicy fried chicken.
I'd buy a drink for the detective in the dallas county sheriff department that helped solve the Roxanne Jeeves double murder. he didn't give up after many years.
Allierain 04-19-2026, 02:09 PM Well, careful what you're signing up for my friend. The man formerly known as Jerry Dean Michael? I'd be at least watching my wallet. Better yet would stay home. Then buy a Honda.
Lololol sound advice my friend. :D Maybe we could FaceTime?
Truly we were supposed to have flying cars 11 years ago, imagine a flying Dale. No engine, 2x4s holding up the rear wheel, door hinges, and bendy glass.
MayorofMedford 04-19-2026, 07:38 PM Dennis Pagenkopp, the cop from the Burrowing Burglars segment. Seemed like a decent guy who could tell a tale or two.
Dude111 04-19-2026, 07:55 PM I would go back in time and buy one for Bobby :)
tvscript124 06-20-2026, 07:50 PM Georgia Rudolph. How she managed to spin such a convincing story about reincarnation. It has been debunked, but it's a great story and she had ASMR delivery before ASMR was even a thing.
DALLASTEXAN!! 06-21-2026, 01:22 PM I would like to sit down with some of the old timers from the marfa lights segment. I think most of them have passed away, but some of the younger people from the segment may still be around. Hopefully someone has gotten their oral history. That part of Texas is probably my favorite place to visit in the state.
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