Her new song "Feedback", the leadoff single to her forthcoming album just leaked on the internet two days before it's supposed to be sent to radio. After Dupri's abortive attempt at trying to turn Janet into a Mariah knockoff with the 20 Y.O. album (thankfully, JD kept his distance from the studio this time), it's nice to hear Janet return to form. Without a doubt her best leadoff single since "All For You".

I gave up on her after Rhythm Nation album.

I gave up on her after Rhythm Nation album.
Rhythm Nation was definately her best work. You should try out The Velvet Rope tho if you find it cheap, it's the album most people generally regard as her last good album. All For You and Damita Jo were so-so, some great songs, and some crap, but 20 Y.O. was her worst album ever, and yes I count the pre-Control album because I like some stuff from Dream Street and the self-titled debut

I think Control is her best album. She had some classics on that one such as Control, Nasty, What Have You Done For Me Lately, The Pleasure Principle, Funny How Time Flies. I'm gonna have to check out her other albums. I wish she would do more uptempo party songs because it seems after Rhythm Nation album, she's done more slow songs than uptempo songs. LOL@ugly african people in Got Till It's Gone video with QTip from The Velvet Rope album.

Her acting isn't that bad either in the movies. Her character in Poetic Justice movie with 2Pac, Regina King, Joe Torry was good. LOL@scene when her and 2Pac were cursing each other out. She was also good in Tyler Perry's latest movie Why Did I Get Married.

yea i love janet she is so awsome

I think Control is her best album. She had some classics on that one such as Control, Nasty, What Have You Done For Me Lately, The Pleasure Principle, Funny How Time Flies. I'm gonna have to check out her other albums. I wish she would do more uptempo party songs because it seems after Rhythm Nation album, she's done more slow songs than uptempo songs. LOL@ugly african people in Got Till It's Gone video with QTip from The Velvet Rope album.
I agree totally, Janet is best when she does more upbeat party-type songs. She has had a good mixture of slow songs and uptempo tracks on most of her Rhythm Nation albums, the big exception was last year's 20 Y.O. (or "20 Copies Sold" as many people have dubbed it since), where Jermaine Dupri tried like hell to turn Janet into Mariah Carey, and it was a weak effort all around. I don't think she has the voice to overdo slow songs, tho the ocassional ballad every now and then is nice. "Feedback" is a return to the party-upbeat Janet of the Control/Rhythm Nation days.

I love the title of the thread, Dean. :rofl:

Remember her slow song 70's Love Groove? She gets real freaky on that song. She moans a lot on that song LOL. She moans a lot on several of her love songs. Remember her Anytime Anyplace video? There was some sexual scenes in that video. I think Janet is a freak in the bed LOL. I wish i was her man instead of Jermaine.

Thats great news she has a sweet voice, i have always liked janet since her early movie career, she was great in poetic justice :)

The song is terribly weak. But not as bad as "Call on Me," etc.

The song is terribly weak. But not as bad as "Call on Me," etc.
well, it's not perfect, it definately doesn't compare at all to her 80's and 90's material, but I do think it's almost a miracle to get a song this good from Janet after the past few years. Radio is already latching onto this song, I think this song will definately put her back in the top 10 for the first time since 2001. I think people have been waiting for Janet to make a comeback, but her last album was incredibly weak and "Call On Me" was not the kickass type of track that was needed to shout that Janet is back.

as much as I love Janet, this promo pic is hilarious

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8666/janetfeedback09zh9.jpg
Robo-tramp Janet? Oh well, at least it's not another cover where she's topless and finding another clever way to cover up

LOL@her new album cover hahahahahahahahahahaha. That's a wack album cover. I like to see her half naked on her album covers because she has a nice body.

as much as I love Janet, this promo pic is hilarious

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8666/janetfeedback09zh9.jpg
Robo-tramp Janet? Oh well, at least it's not another cover where she's topless and finding another clever way to cover up
Are we sure that's not Cher or Tori Spelling?? :eek: :lol:

Looks a female reject Moonwalker robot to me..all that is missing is the silver color and the wings. Janet is the official "black" robot with the dark red eyes and the fu** me whips....do you think Janet would turn into a Bertone Stratos or a Mercedes Benz? Just wondering...is she going to be a bad looking space ship that is somehow perverted....I smell a music video movie.....:crazy:

What?? :eek: sooo Janet's a robot now? Them Jackson's never know when to stop with this surgery crap! :lol:

Michael was the first robot.........now it's Janet's turn.

Michael was the first robot.........now it's Janet's turn.

:lol: Money is a strong thing i guess..forget the boob job..i'm going for the robot thing this year! :lol:

Janet Jackson hopes new album ends sales slide
By Clover Hope
Sat Jan 12

NEW YORK (Billboard) - After failing to crack the million mark with her last two albums, Janet Jackson is wary of using the "c" word to describe her upcoming release, "Discipline," which hits stores on February 26.

"I think a comeback is when you leave and then you ... come back," Jackson said with a laugh during a recent interview. "People are always quick to use that word 'comeback,' but I never went anywhere, really."

"Discipline" marks her 10th studio disc, and her debut release for Island Def Jam after more than a decade at Virgin Records. Her last album, 2006's "20 Y.O.," stalled at 648,000 units in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan, while 2004's "Damita Jo" moved 999,000.

After a round of underwhelming singles from those albums, the lead single "Feedback" has been gaining momentum at urban and pop radio formats, thanks to its robotic bassline and voice-modulated effect tailor-made for the clubs. It jumped 32 places to No. 52 on the latest Billboard Hot 100.

"This song is definitely one of those feel-good, make-you-get-up-out-your-seat, maybe dance-on-the-table-a-little-bit type songs," said Deon Cole, music director of urban WPEG Charlotte, N.C.

If "Feedback" keeps rising, it could become Jackson's first top-10 hit since 2001's "Someone to Call My Lover," which peaked at No. 3.

CLASSIC JANET

Heavier on dance tracks than seductive jams (Jackson's other forte), "Discipline" is classic Janet. The title track is one of her typical frisky bedroom cuts, featuring lyrics like, "I need some discipline tonight/I've been very bad" and "Daddy, make me cry."

Yet, there is an air of newness to the album that is partly the result of Jackson creatively straying from her longtime go-to production team of Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis.

"I was hoping we could do something together, but sometimes you have to explore and kind of kick yourself out of the nest," Jackson said of her decision to escape her production comfort zone. "It was something that I needed to do for myself, but I think (Jam and Lewis) felt it coming, too, 'cause I kept working with a different producer here or there."

In addition to production by Jackson's longtime boyfriend Jermaine Dupri, Island's head of urban music, "Discipline" also features tracks by newcomers the-Dream and Tricky Stewart ("Umbrella," "Bed"), Lil Jon, Stargate and songwriters Ne-Yo and Johnta Austin. Rodney Jerkins produced and wrote "Feedback" with Dernst Emile. The beats and lyrics that these contributors initially presented to Jackson were, serendipitously, true to her choreography-based roots.

"I never had to tell them, 'No, this is what it should be,"' said Jackson. "I felt like they really did their homework and whatever they felt a Janet song was -- rock, pop or urban -- they hit it right on the nose."

With "Discipline," the aim was to innovate without totally reinventing the wheel. "There are some things that maybe I'll try for right now and some things I'll wait later on to try. It's (about) sticking to who I am. Even lyrically, something that I've experienced or someone that I know has experienced, it has to relate to my life and myself."

STARTING FROM SCRATCH

Starting her musical career at age 16, Jackson released her first five albums through A&M, including her self-titled 1982 debut and her 1986 breakthrough "Control," on which she first started collaborating with Jam and Lewis. But it wasn't until 1989's "Rhythm Nation 1814" that multiplatinum sales started becoming a norm. For 1993's "janet.," which has sold more than 7 million copies, Jackson relocated to Virgin and revealed a sexier image, with more sensual music to boot. The reinvention yielded her most successful single, "That's the Way Love Goes," which topped the Hot 100 for eight straight weeks. Subsequent albums "The Velvet Rope" and "All for You" each sold more than 3 million units.

While Jackson's record sales have declined in recent years, the most drastic dip occurred in the aftermath of her infamous "wardrobe malfunction" during the 2004 Super Bowl halftime show. This is, of course, another hurdle -- perhaps the hurdle -- from which Jackson has been struggling to recover.

Though the incident is a bygone, it is still the elephant in every room she enters. Its aftershocks were felt not only in the Federal Communication Commission's crackdown on media smut, but also in her album sales.

Despite bowing at No. 2 on the Billboard 200, "Damita Jo" was largely overshadowed by the Super Bowl fiasco. According to Jackson, the project was poorly handled.

"Not to badmouth Virgin, 'cause it was my family for a very long time, but they kind of just lost touch," she said. "To only have support of the urban department and for (those two albums) to sell what they did, there's a lot to say for that. (At Island) they all come together, and one department knows what the other department is doing. You need that to really move forward. It's teamwork, and that's what Virgin lost."

Back when Dupri was president of urban music at Virgin, he'd expressed similar sentiments of nonsupport, which was part of the reason he left once the dust of "20 Y.O." had settled. According to him, the label felt it was the music that was the barrier.

"It was described to me that the music wasn't appropriate and that's what was making these outlets or certain places that usually would support her not willing to play the record," Dupri said. "I know better than that. In the music business, you at least get a shot."

But sources close to "20 Y.O." note that since Dupri was president of Virgin's urban department at the time of the album's release, he controlled virtually every aspect of the marketing and promotion of the project. (Virgin did not respond to a request for comment.)

Regardless, in February 2007, when Dupri was appointed to head Island's urban music department, Jackson soon followed. But while Dupri and Reid worked together on "Discipline," Dupri, who executive-produced "Damita Jo" and "20 Y.O.," willingly loosened the reins this time around, although he ended up producing all the vocals for the album.

"It's a crazy role for me, because I want the right things for her as my girl. I also want the right things for her as a label, but I also am the label president," said Dupri, who two years ago masterminded the comeback of another Virgin refugee, Mariah Carey.

As with "20 Y.O.," where fans got to design their own album covers, Jackson is offering another DIY promotional camp`ign for "Discipline." In January, her official Web site (http://www.janetjackson.com) launched a contest for fans to create their own homemade videos for "Feedback" and post them on her YouTube channel, Destination Discipline.

In mid- to late summer, Jackson hopes to tour in support of "Discipline." She avoids endorsement deals, instead using acting to supplement her musical pursuits. She starred in Tyler Perry's recent box office chart-topper "Why Did I Get Married?"

"I like more the creative aspect of things as opposed to coming home with a headache every night with stress up to here," Jackson says. "It feels great, because I still love what I do, and I'm not about to stop. It's nice to be able to do it but even nicer that the people still yearn for you after 20-plus years -- that they still want to know what's to come."

Reuters/Billboard

Remember her slow song 70's Love Groove? She gets real freaky on that song. She moans a lot on that song LOL. She moans a lot on several of her love songs. Remember her Anytime Anyplace video? There was some sexual scenes in that video. I think Janet is a freak in the bed LOL. I wish i was her man instead of Jermaine.
I heard she likes her feet massaged. ;)

I heard she likes her feet massaged. ;)
I also heard that she get coffee enemas whenever she feels sluggish. :eek: puke: That was on a Jay Leno monologue from about 10 years ago (I found some old tapes).

Janet, Janet. You are just fortunate enough to have a career now in this day and age.....:rolleyes:

"Feedback" has begun to stall. It has dropped on the iTunes 100 to #63... it peaked at #23.

I think Janet's facing what all 40-something pop stars have to face, radio ageism. America is notorious for this. Madonna's Hung Up was a #1 hit in literally every country in the world except America because radio didn't want to play a 47 year old Madonna because they're afraid she won't work alongside then-23 year old Kelly Clarkson on radio. Tons of the 80's and early-mid 90's stars have faced this ageism, Madonna, MJ, Prince, Whitney, U2 (at least they still get played on rock stations), Celine, etc. There's only a few years left before Mariah winds up blacklisted for age as well.

It's funny how US radio is so fixed on age while in the UK, 65 year olds like Paul McCartney and Cliff Richard still score hit singles with the right songs.

Michael Jackson had a nice amount of airplay with "You Rock My World," and especially "Butterflies."

NYC and LA radio embraced "Hung Up."

I've heard "Cinnamon Girl," "Fury," and "Black Sweat" on several black-targeted stations and some Adult Contemporary ones as well.


These songs weren't hits on Top 40 radio in part because those artists weren't necessarily trying to reach the 18-34 demo.

Michael Jackson had a nice amount of airplay with "You Rock My World," and especially "Butterflies."

NYC and LA radio embraced "Hung Up."

I've heard "Cinnamon Girl," "Fury," and "Black Sweat" on several black-targeted stations and some Adult Contemporary ones as well.


These songs weren't hits on Top 40 radio in part because those artists weren't necessarily trying to reach the 18-34 demo.
well, sadly there really aren't many stations out there who wish to embrace the current music these artists put out. There was even an article about Madonna's last album with programmers saying she's "too old" to play. Top 40 is the biggest radio market in America and they won't play anyone in their 40's (ok, I know Santana has a song on the chart right now, but I think we can all agree it's because of the Nickelback guy) because they're afraid playing a 43 year old will alienate a 15 year old who wants to listen to Rihanna. It's all bull. Yet you'll hear a new song by Paul McCartney or Eric Clapton alongside Rihanna in the UK, I don't understand why it works there but they're afraid of it here.

MJ's last hits were 6-7 years ago, same time it's been since Madonna and Janet's last real hit songs in the US. Radio has changed a lot since 2001-2002, you'll never see someone have a Cher "Believe" type of hit today, radio cares too much about precious demographics now. Now we're in an era where Britney and Justin are considered "vets", so there's no real outlet to hear Prince or Duran Duran outside of 80's stations.

That's terrible. :mad: Who cares about the age of the artist if it's good music???

That's terrible. :mad: Who cares about the age of the artist if it's good music???
that's what I think. Springsteen's last album has sold as much in half the time and without any airplay that Rihanna's album has done, and The Eagles have sold 3 million with just selling at Wal-Mart and with zero airplay. But yet radio is afraid to play them because of precious demographics? WTF!!! Apparently there is still a market for current music (since we know Born To Run and Hotel California will never die on classic rock, but those are 30 year old songs) from Springsteen and The Eagles yet they're afraid of playing them?

That's terrible. :mad: Who cares about the age of the artist if it's good music???
So true! Especially when half of the "young singers" of today have zero talent.

So true! Especially when half of the "young singers" of today have zero talent.
Couldn't have said it better myself, my friend. :clap

So true! Especially when half of the "young singers" of today have zero talent.

But that could also be said about some of the "legends" or veterans... half of them have no talent. Sometimes it's all about hype.

But that could also be said about some of the "legends" or veterans... half of them have no talent. Sometimes it's all about hype.
Well, I have to disagree with that. The amount of talented legends far outweighed the ones without... with today's "singers" it's the total opposite. (IMO)

FYI :There are rumors that she is planning a surprise performance at the Grammys.

I just listened to Discipline for the first time.

I do think it's a much better and cohesive effort than 20 Y.O. was, but that's about it. The album is mostly mediocre. There's nothing godawful on the album, but at the same time, there really isn't anything that stands out. It's basically like she went into a studio, knowing what caused 20 to be a massive failure, and records an album of pop songs, dance songs, lite-hip hop numbers and some AC-ish ballads just as an effort to salvage her career, which has been in severe decline since Nipplegate.

I will give the album more chances, I just feel like her heart isn't at all in the album and that it's more or less an attempt to reverse the downward spiral her sales have been in. There's a lot of catchy songs on here, but most of it is forgettable five minutes later. Every album up till now (even 20 Y.O. had a few standout songs in the midst of all the wretchedness) had "this song is great" moments on there, Discipline is just so-so.

after third listen, I would say that the album may be her best work since "Velvet Rope", tho I don't think the album has one bonafide standout track ala "Trust A Try" or "All Nite (Don't Stop)" from more recent albums. As a whole, the album never gets boring nor does it drag. The ballads and midtempos are her finest in years IMO, and they're not overdone. Plus, it may be her least sexual album since "Rhythm Nation", only the title track is overtly sexual, and it's nice to have that for a change, since Janet went from sexy to pornographic in the past decade.

I don't think the album will restore her to her previous heights but I do think it will reverse the tides that caused her last two albums to bomb. Not at all in the league with her glory days, but probably her most consistant and strongest album of the decade IMO.

It's difficult for me to completely and fairly compare Discipline to 20 Y.O. and Damita Jo, simply because those two were so terrible that I couldn't listen to them from beginning to end in one sitting. However, I was able to that with this album without becoming agitated, easily bored, or antsy to press "skip." That being said, it's safe to say that the album is much better than her two previous efforts.

However, the album isn't remarkable or anything worthy of much praise. And it's actually quite dull when compared to Britney's Blackout, Madonna's Confessions on a Dance Floor and Good Girl Gone Bad by Rihanna--which are the most solid pop records in recent memory.

as much as I love Janet, this promo pic is hilarious

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8666/janetfeedback09zh9.jpg
Robo-tramp Janet? Oh well, at least it's not another cover where she's topless and finding another clever way to cover up
WTF...is that a clock on her crotch?

Her biological clock is ticking and Janet demands action....action...action....says Robot Janet.
Or sexual gratification.

It's difficult for me to completely and fairly compare Discipline to 20 Y.O. and Damita Jo, simply because those two were so terrible that I couldn't listen to them from beginning to end in one sitting. However, I was able to that with this album without becoming agitated, easily bored, or antsy to press "skip." That being said, it's safe to say that the album is much better than her two previous efforts.

However, the album isn't remarkable or anything worthy of much praise. And it's actually quite dull when compared to Britney's Blackout, Madonna's Confessions on a Dance Floor and Good Girl Gone Bad by Rihanna--which are the most solid pop records in recent memory.
it's almost sad when you consider that Rihanna put out the best Janet album in over a decade. Beyonce's B. Day was a better Janet album than anything Janet's released since Velvet Rope also IMO.

it's almost sad when you consider that Rihanna put out the best Janet album in over a decade. Beyonce's B. Day was a better Janet album than anything Janet's released since Velvet Rope also IMO.

I wouldn't call B'Day a "Janet album." It's too safe and generic to be called that. While Janet's recent albums might suck, "safe" is one thing that they're not.

B'Day is a good Beyonce album... it delivered what is expected from her. Being Jay-Z's girlfriend, she could have easily had Rihanna's latest, it's obvious that she didn't have the courage to record that sort of material. She's not much of a risk taker.

I hope Rihanna keeps the momentum up. I thought A Girl Like Me was really mediocre with a few great singles, but Good Girl Gone Bad is filled with great tracks. I am shocked as hell that Don't Stop The Music is exploding in America right now. I knew the song would be a smash in Europe, and that it'd be a huge hit in the dance clubs, but I am surprised how Rihanna is having smash hits with dance songs (S.O.S. was also very dance IMO) when US radio usually avoids that type of music like it's a cancer. I'm definately not complaining though since they're great tracks.

faves so far

1. 2nite
2. Rock With U
3. Feedback
4. Luv
5. Rollercoaster
6. Discipline
7. So Much Betta
8. The 1
9. Can't B Good
10. Greatest X

all in all, a stellar collection of songs, no real filler IMO, but there isn't anything in the league with her best

I am shocked as hell that Don't Stop The Music is exploding in America right now.

So am I. The funny thing is that whenever it comes on the radio I assume that it's KIIS FM who is playing it (KIIS being the pop station in L.A.,) but 2/3 times it's on Power 106---a MAJOR hip-hop/urban station. It's a great song... it deserves it's success.

Noticing you fav's list... don't you think it would have been a wise decision to shorten the album to 12 tracks at the most?

Noticing you fav's list... don't you think it would have been a wise decision to shorten the album to 12 tracks at the most?
the album is fairly short (54 mins compared to janet. and TVR being over 70 mins), it's just all those damn interludes she does.

Did anyone see her on Larry King Live?