View Full Version : Solomon's Weekly Rant (11/17/07) Discussion: No Fresh Prince DVD; TVL Thanksgiving
Pavan 11-17-2007, 03:20 PM Please read:
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2007/11/mini-dvd-review-captain-n-and-new-super.html
...then discuss.
clarkkent 11-17-2007, 04:06 PM The reason there have been no more releases of Fresh Prince is because it's from Warner Bros. They have a habit of not releases the shows you really want to collect and spend alot of time releasing junk, things I've never even heard of, much less would ever buy. I can't imagine that so many people would rather collect Full House over Fresh Prince. I chose not to buy Fresh Prince until all 6 season are available. I don't if that day will ever come though.
Ireneparalegal 11-17-2007, 04:14 PM Sol, your rants are getting shorter and shorter. :lol:
Ok, with all the reruns of FP on N@N, NOGGIN and any other station, those episodes can be recorded, WHO NEEDS DVD's?????? :crazy:
As for TvLand and it's decision to air a mix of shows rather than a marathon, something tells me if they had gone with a marathon of some show, people would be upset because it wouldn't be the show they'd want to watch. And besides, what show would they air as a marathon? TVland has had many marathons already so what is left? I wouldn't want to watch a marathon of some show that ISN'T AIRING, I would rather see TVland ADD TO THEIR SCHEDULE SHOWS THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN, but not a marathon.
gidgetgrape 11-17-2007, 05:05 PM It's hard for me to sympathize with Fresh Prince Fans, because that show is regularly on cable. I can't watch My Three Sons and other older shows anywhere.
TVFactFan 11-17-2007, 05:05 PM Sol, your rants are getting shorter and shorter. :lol:
Ok, with all the reruns of FP on N@N, NOGGIN and any other station, those episodes can be recorded, WHO NEEDS DVD's?????? :crazy:
As for TvLand and it's decision to air a mix of shows rather than a marathon, something tells me if they had gone with a marathon of some show, people would be upset because it wouldn't be the show they'd want to watch. And besides, what show would they air as a marathon? TVland has had many marathons already so what is left? I wouldn't want to watch a marathon of some show that ISN'T AIRING, I would rather see TVland ADD TO THEIR SCHEDULE SHOWS THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN, but not a marathon.
What do you mean by shorter?-lol And I need the DVD's because N@N eps are EDITED remember?-lol And As far as the Whatever-thon, I just feel if should be one type of show shown all day or another. Now if they chose sitcoms it probably wouldn't be what I want to see but atleast it would be a marathon of the same type of programming
Ireneparalegal 11-17-2007, 05:21 PM It's hard for me to sympathize with Fresh Prince Fans, because that show is regularly on cable. I can't watch My Three Sons and other older shows anywhere.
Well said. That is my point, I have a hard time feeling for the FP fans -who are they anyways? Besides Solomon -:lol:
TVFactFan 11-17-2007, 05:35 PM Well said. That is my point, I have a hard time feeling for the FP fans -who are they anyways? Besides Solomon -:lol:
FRESH PRINCE FANS WHERE ARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-lol
Ireneparalegal 11-17-2007, 05:47 PM FRESH PRINCE FANS WHERE ARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!-lol
Yeah, I really want to know who they are. :lol:
Neva mind, they are probably watching FP right now. :rofl:
JulieSomoski 11-17-2007, 06:33 PM Solomon, your rants are getting shorter-LOL. Last week I thought it was short, but this week it was even shorter!
IMO, the reason they're not releasing the DVD's is because people think they can watch any time they want to on NAN. All they have to do is turn on the TV and it'll be on-LOL. Plus, I heard season 4 sales were not good at all (according to Gord Lacey at TSoD.com, it sold just half the units Full House S4 did), but can you blame people for not buying them? I sold all 4 of my sets awhile ago, and don't miss them a bit.
With the TVland thing, they're marathons are really odd. They're airing tons of I Love Lucy (which I love, but already air it a lot), plus some Sanford and Son and Andy Griffith, at weird times, plus they got those movies airing in there - it makes no sense. Why not just air a night of Thanksgiving episodes from all different TV Shows? That's more Thanksgiving than airing episodes of shows that aren't Thanksgiving-related.
TVFactFan 11-17-2007, 06:37 PM Solomon, your rants are getting shorter-LOL. Last week I thought it was short, but this week it was even shorter!
IMO, the reason they're not releasing the DVD's is because people think they can watch any time they want to on NAN. All they have to do is turn on the TV and it'll be on-LOL. Plus, I heard season 4 sales were not good at all (according to Gord Lacey at TSoD.com, it sold just half the units Full House S4 did), but can you blame people for not buying them? I sold all 4 of my sets awhile ago, and don't miss them a bit.
With the TVland thing, they're marathons are really odd. They're airing tons of I Love Lucy (which I love, but already air it a lot), plus some Sanford and Son and Andy Griffith, at weird times, plus they got those movies airing in there - it makes no sense. Why not just air a night of Thanksgiving episodes from all different TV Shows? That's more Thanksgiving than airing episodes of shows that aren't Thanksgiving-related.
Exactly, I don't know about I love Lucy but Sanford and Son don't have any Thanksgiving eps-lol Why the hell would that show be seen on Thanksgiving?
Far as the rant, it's still two topics every week with a paragraph length for each topic, the way it has been since June-lol I'm not sure what you and Irene mean by shorter
freshprinceofLA 11-17-2007, 06:49 PM Yea I know WTF I got all 4 seasons so far still waiting for the 5th season of Fresh Prince. WB is seriously on crack
JulieSomoski 11-17-2007, 06:50 PM Exactly, I don't know about I love Lucy but Sanford and Son don't have any Thanksgiving eps-lol Why the hell would that show be seen on Thanksgiving?
Far as the rant, it's still two topics every week with a paragraph length for each topic, the way it has been since June-lol I'm not sure what you and Irene mean by shorter
I know it's still 2 topics, but I think you're just writing less for each topic. They're still good, but just less to read-LOL
THey should be airing what Nick at Nite usually does for their holiday specials (air a night of the holida-themed episodes.) it doesn't make any sense to air I Love Lucy, Sanford, and Andy Griffith in marathon-formats for no reason.
Buffyboy323 11-17-2007, 07:16 PM Neva mind, they are probably watching FP right now. :rofl:
Before I read your post, I was going to say the exact same thing! :D
Those fans are watching it from now until 6am tomorrow morning. And they probably will do the same thing tomorrow. Ugh.
Buffyboy323 11-17-2007, 07:30 PM IMO, the reason they're not releasing the DVD's is because people think they can watch any time they want to on NAN. All they have to do is turn on the TV and it'll be on-LOL. Plus, I heard season 4 sales were not good at all (according to Gord Lacey at TSoD.com, it sold just half the units Full House S4 did), but can you blame people for not buying them? I sold all 4 of my sets awhile ago, and don't miss them a bit.
I agree. I think people just shrug it off when they see the DVD sets in the store, because they just say "I can catch it on Nick at Nite tonight, and every other night. They air it for about 7 hours straight."
Ireneparalegal 11-17-2007, 07:42 PM Before I read your post, I was going to say the exact same thing! :D
Those fans are watching it from now until 6am tomorrow morning. And they probably will do the same thing tomorrow. Ugh.
crazy a$$ people. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Buffyboy323 11-17-2007, 09:30 PM crazy a$$ people. :lol: :lol: :lol:
I hear ya! ;)
Irene, notice how we have yet ANOTHER Fresh Prince discussion going on? LMAO!
Ireneparalegal 11-17-2007, 10:12 PM I hear ya! ;)
Irene, notice how we have yet ANOTHER Fresh Prince discussion going on? LMAO!
Yes!!! That went through my mind earlier. :lol: Great minds my friend...:D
JulieSomoski 11-17-2007, 11:00 PM I agree. I think people just shrug it off when they see the DVD sets in the store, because they just say "I can catch it on Nick at Nite tonight, and every other night. They air it for about 7 hours straight."
I saw the FP DVD's at Best Buy today, and all 4 seasons werel the same as the actual listed price-LOL. Aren't stores supposed to price the DVD's lower than the list price????
Plus, all the Full House season were $8 cheaper. It made no sense. No wonder no one's buying the DVD's.
Dean Winchester 11-19-2007, 01:30 AM there are countless other shows that I would complain about being abandoned before Fresh Prince. There are a lot of shows that only have one or two seasons out on DVD that are nowhere to be found in syndication these days that I think is a bigger deal that haven't been finished, because Fresh Prince is on Nick At Nite all night, every single night. Diff'rent Strokes comes to mind, it's been two years since season two without a season three release in sight, it hasn't aired regularly since 2002 on TNN and a lot of people do not have Comcast, but yet seasons 3-8 are still at large on DVD, even tho most people would agree that seasons 3-5/6 were the show at it's best.
TVFactFan 11-19-2007, 02:18 AM there are countless other shows that I would complain about being abandoned before Fresh Prince. There are a lot of shows that only have one or two seasons out on DVD that are nowhere to be found in syndication these days that I think is a bigger deal that haven't been finished, because Fresh Prince is on Nick At Nite all night, every single night. Diff'rent Strokes comes to mind, it's been two years since season two without a season three release in sight, it hasn't aired regularly since 2002 on TNN and a lot of people do not have Comcast, but yet seasons 3-8 are still at large on DVD, even tho most people would agree that seasons 3-5/6 were the show at it's best.
Fresh Prince fans don't want to hear anything about the show being on N@N because those eps are EDITED. Doesn't satisy our needs
Dean Winchester 11-19-2007, 02:35 AM no show is more suffocated in syndication than Fresh Prince right now, edited eps on N@N are better than nothing at all, since at least it has the advantage of being aired 300 times a night, a lot of shows haven't been shown in years that have fans eagerly awaiting another season set of it
JulieSomoski 11-19-2007, 04:49 PM no show is more suffocated in syndication than Fresh Prince right now, edited eps on N@N are better than nothing at all, since at least it has the advantage of being aired 300 times a night, a lot of shows haven't been shown in years that have fans eagerly awaiting another season set of it
That's a great way to put it. Not only is it huge on 3 cable stations, it is also coming popular again in local syndication stations. Plus, it already has 4 seasons out on DVD. There are numerous other shows that aren't in syndication, aren't in cable, and only have 1 or no seasons on DVD. Murphy Brown, Growing Pains, and A Different World come to mind. NAN has rights to all these shows, yet chooses to look down upon them.
Dean Winchester 11-19-2007, 04:55 PM That's a great way to put it. Not only is it huge on 3 cable stations, it is also coming popular again in local syndication stations. Plus, it already has 4 seasons out on DVD. There are numerous other shows that aren't in syndication, aren't in cable, and only have 1 or no seasons on DVD. Murphy Brown, Growing Pains, and A Different World come to mind. NAN has rights to all these shows, yet chooses to look down upon them.
I agree. I'm sorry for the three fans who still haven't gotten enough of the show that there's still two seasons left. But my heart is hardly gonna go out to them when there are 100's of other shows stuck in DVD limbo that don't have the benefit of airing countless times a night. Yea, 21-22 mins is edited, but it's 21-22 more minutes a half hour per night than we get of Diff'rent Strokes, Gimme A Break, Murphy Brown, Hazel, The Flying Nun, One Day At A Time, Maude, Welcome Back Kotter, Facts Of Life, Mad About You and other shows that have one, two or three seasons out but for the most part are stuck in DVD limbo and no finish in sight.
JulieSomoski 11-19-2007, 05:10 PM I agree. I'm sorry for the three fans who still haven't gotten enough of the show that there's still two seasons left. But my heart is hardly gonna go out to them when there are 100's of other shows stuck in DVD limbo that don't have the benefit of airing countless times a night. Yea, 21-22 mins is edited, but it's 21-22 more minutes a half hour per night than we get of Diff'rent Strokes, Gimme A Break, Murphy Brown, Hazel, The Flying Nun, One Day At A Time, Maude, Welcome Back Kotter, Facts Of Life, Mad About You and other shows that have one, two or three seasons out but for the most part are stuck in DVD limbo and no finish in sight.
Yeah. Fresh Prince is one of the most overrated shows repeated on television today, and no one knows why. There are so many shows that have only a couple seasons out on DVD and are not on television that did unbelievably better than Fresh Prince, but today they're treated like nothing. Murphy Brown ran 10 highly rated seasons on CBS, in the top 10 for 5 seasons, yet Fresh Prince was never in the top 10, only ran 6 seasons, and does way better. It makes NO sense!
TVFactFan 11-19-2007, 07:06 PM no show is more suffocated in syndication than Fresh Prince right now, edited eps on N@N are better than nothing at all, since at least it has the advantage of being aired 300 times a night, a lot of shows haven't been shown in years that have fans eagerly awaiting another season set of it
We FP fans want the complete series like Full House, a show that also SUFFOCATED in syndication, N@N and ABC Family
Buffyboy323 11-19-2007, 07:15 PM I saw the FP DVD's at Best Buy today, and all 4 seasons werel the same as the actual listed price-LOL. Aren't stores supposed to price the DVD's lower than the list price????
Plus, all the Full House season were $8 cheaper. It made no sense. No wonder no one's buying the DVD's.
I went to Best Buy last night (finally got my Family Ties 1st season!), and ran over to The Fresh Prince DVD's! LOL....They had all four seasons for $30 each. That's rediculous. They had other Warner Bros. shows like Full House and Friends for $23 or $25. That's a shame. Maybe raising The Fresh Prince DVD prices is how they're going to make their money, since nobody is buying them for $20.
Buffyboy323 11-19-2007, 07:26 PM We FP fans want the complete series like Full House, a show that also SUFFOCATED in syndication, N@N and ABC Family
:lol:
Full House was suffocated on those channels, but not at all like The Fresh Prince is suffocated on every channel it's on. The DVD sales for Full House must have been really good, because not only did they release all 8 years in a short time, but they also released a Complete Series DVD, even before seeing how well the 8th season sales would be.
I think the chances of having a Fresh Prince Complete Set is out of the question, for now at least.
TVFactFan 11-19-2007, 07:29 PM :lol:
Full House was suffocated on those channels, but not at all like The Fresh Prince is suffocated on every channel it's on. The DVD sales for Full House must have been really good, because not only did they release all 8 years in a short time, but they also released a Complete Series DVD, even before seeing how well the 8th season sales would be.
I think the chances of having a Fresh Prince Complete Set is out of the question, for now at least.
I used to have all the NBC eps of FP from season 5 and 6 but now I no longer have them. Of course if I did the seasons 5 and 6 would be on DVD.
Buffyboy323 11-19-2007, 07:35 PM I used to have all the NBC eps of FP from season 5 and 6 but now I no longer have them. Of course if I did the seasons 5 and 6 would be on DVD.
That's usually how it works. LOL
And Solomon, don't be jealous of the success of Full House on DVD. ;)
TVFactFan 11-19-2007, 07:47 PM That's usually how it works. LOL
And Solomon, don't be jealous of the success of Full House on DVD. ;)
Yeah I'm Jealous because if that cheesy show is out on DVD so can Step by Step
Buffyboy323 11-19-2007, 08:00 PM Yeah I'm Jealous because if that cheesy show is out on DVD so can Step by Step
"We FP fans want the complete series like Ful House."
That sounds a little jealous. I can just picture you jumping up and down as your saying it. LOL
Full House and Step By Step are "cheesy." And Family Matters was written and produced by the same people, so that's "cheesy" as well. And so what if they are? Your Fresh Prince is very cheesy! And so is your Cosby Show.
Janice 11-19-2007, 09:44 PM I'm not a Fresh Prince fan, due to its overexposure. I still can understand why fans still want the show on DVDs uncut. I think fans of any show want their shows that way. It's perfectly understandable.
Dean Winchester 11-19-2007, 10:21 PM I'm not a Fresh Prince fan, due to its overexposure. I still can understand why fans still want the show on DVDs uncut. I think fans of any show want their shows that way. It's perfectly understandable.
that is true, but it's just a little surprising with all the show out there that have been seemingly abandoned on DVD that Fresh Prince would be the show to be most frustrated with no further sets considering it's one of those shows where you can just turn to N@N at any time at night and see an episode, as opposed to the shows that we haven't seen in 5-10 years in reruns. I'd love Designing Women to come out on DVD for instance, but it is currently on TV Land every night, so even though I would love a Season 1 DVD of it but considering I can watch it every night on TV Land, it's not as high on my want list as something like The Facts Of Life or Family Ties which don't air anymore and the DVD's are my only way to watch the episodes now.
Mr. Television 11-19-2007, 10:25 PM The fact is that when you start buying DVDS, no matter if the show is on tv regularly or not, you want all seasons to be released. If I spent money on any set and that set was stopped for some reason, I would feel jipped because I never would have bought any of the seasons if I knew that. That's one reason I'm slow to get TV DVDS usually until a few seasons of a show are released.
Janice 11-19-2007, 10:26 PM that is true, but it's just a little surprising with all the show out there that have been seemingly abandoned on DVD that Fresh Prince would be the show to be most frustrated with no further sets considering it's one of those shows where you can just turn to N@N at any time at night and see an episode, as opposed to the shows that we haven't seen in 5-10 years in reruns. I'd love Designing Women to come out on DVD for instance, but it is currently on TV Land every night, so even though I would love a Season 1 DVD of it but considering I can watch it every night on TV Land, it's not as high on my want list as something like The Facts Of Life or Family Ties which don't air anymore and the DVD's are my only way to watch the episodes now.
Don't forget, this is Solomon's rant. He's speaking for himself. He's a fan of Fresh Prince and wants to complete his collection with uncut DVDs. I can understand that. If someone else ranted that they wanted one of their favorite show's final few seasons released, uncut, I would understand that also.
Mr. Television 11-19-2007, 10:32 PM and Dallas has been on Soapnet for a few years but I still am waiting until every season is out on DVD. It just isn't the same just because it's on tv.
TVFactFan 11-19-2007, 11:35 PM that is true, but it's just a little surprising with all the show out there that have been seemingly abandoned on DVD that Fresh Prince would be the show to be most frustrated with no further sets considering it's one of those shows where you can just turn to N@N at any time at night and see an episode, as opposed to the shows that we haven't seen in 5-10 years in reruns. I'd love Designing Women to come out on DVD for instance, but it is currently on TV Land every night, so even though I would love a Season 1 DVD of it but considering I can watch it every night on TV Land, it's not as high on my want list as something like The Facts Of Life or Family Ties which don't air anymore and the DVD's are my only way to watch the episodes now.
The Difference between Facts of Life and Fresh Prince is that FP is close to completion, FOL on the otherhand still has 5 or 6 more seasons to go
JulieSomoski 11-20-2007, 04:58 PM We can blame the whole thing on Warner Bros. It makes me wonder how Full House gets all 8 seasons and a complete series set released in just 3 years, and Fresh Prince can't get it's last 2 seasons released. How much better can Full House really be selling?
Actually, this is a good thing, because now that Full House is done, they're gonna have to start up on something else. Why not give Family Matters and Step by Step a chance on DVD? We're getting Perfect Strangers in February, so I don't understand why FM and SBT can't get 1 season out. Family Matters was a 90's hit . . . it was in the top 20 for 3 seasons I believe, and was probably the biggest hit on TGIF. It makes no sense why we can't get a single release of it on DVD.
Then why not finish are continue shows like Murphy Brown, Drew Carey Show, Growing Pains, Living Single, The Steve Harvey Show, and many more that only have 1 season out. If they're not gonna make a whole lot of money on them, why not do it for the fans then? They're more greedy than Sony is, and that's quite an accomplishment.
Dean Winchester 11-20-2007, 05:19 PM I am baffled by Full House's popularity on DVD as well (I wouldn't take it for free), but I think the fact that it does so well with little kids helps a bit. I've seen people on SO with young children who say they've bought the sets because it's a show their kids like and yet they have no objections to them watching because the show is inoffensive.
TVFactFan 11-20-2007, 07:30 PM I am baffled by Full House's popularity on DVD as well (I wouldn't take it for free), but I think the fact that it does so well with little kids helps a bit. I've seen people on SO with young children who say they've bought the sets because it's a show their kids like and yet they have no objections to them watching because the show is inoffensive.
plenty of kids shows are the same way like silver spoons and different strokes and they didn't sell well
pardilia 11-30-2007, 01:37 PM plenty of kids shows are the same way like silver spoons and different strokes and they didn't sell well
Most people raising young kids today grew up with Full House. :)
I'd rather see companies wait to release tv show dvds until they have at least 2 or 3 seasons already in the bag. The wait between seasons while they go through getting rights to music, editing out things they no longer have rights to...that mess...its just ridiculous.
A couple of times I've ended up selling my season 1 set of a show because I'd rather have some money back then have an incomplete set for umpteen years. Bonanza is one of the strangest cases of tv shows on dvd I've seen...
(And I'm so over FP and FH because of seeing them on every single channel when I can't sleep at night!! Maybe in 5 or 10 years when they aren't on tv, I'll want to own them so I can watch them...but not anytime soon.)
I think Solomon should start ranting weekly again.
TVFactFan 03-10-2025, 11:16 PM I think Solomon should start ranting weekly again.
Season 5 and 6 of Fresh Prince was released in 2010 and 2011. I gave up in 2009:lol:
Season 5 and 6 of Fresh Prince was released in 2010 and 2011. I gave up in 2009:lol:
I didn’t mean about that specifically. I meant in general. Bring back the weekly rant thread about current topics.
TVFactFan 03-11-2025, 12:17 AM I didn’t mean about that specifically. I meant in general. Bring back the weekly rant thread about current topics.
I know I was just providing some historical DVD release facts:lol:
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