View Full Version : Solomon's Weekly Rant (11/3/2007) Discussion: No Jay in 2009?; Morning SportsCenter?


Pavan
11-03-2007, 01:23 PM
Please read:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2007/11/tv-alert-mini-dvd-review-perry-mason.html

...then discuss.

MLBonTBS
11-03-2007, 01:31 PM
I agree with Solomon about Conan, but NBC felt they had to do it to keep him from jumping to another network... now the might be regretting it.

As for SportsCenter, they only do the rundown on the morning shows because they are pre-taped and they know what will be on the show in advance. At night, I'm assuming it's run like a newscast and is sometimes changed at the last minute if something doesn't work out, or if there's breaking news.

Raisingdad2004
11-03-2007, 02:16 PM
I partially agree about Leno/Conan ... I do like Conan, I think he is quite smart and enjoy his clown act but there is something simple and comforting about Leno and his show, his whole style which may not have the smartest lines, the best skits, but its good comfort TV ... after a long day, its good comfort TV ... the warm old pal sort of thing.

Conan should stay where he is for the audience he gets, either he will attempt to turn himself into a Vanilla Host to do The Tonight Show which will make his current fans loathe him, or he will do his shtick on the Tonight Show which will get Jay's big audience to hate him ... there is a reason why all of Jays audience doesn't watch Conan and scream for him to take over the Tonight Show, he is not the guy for them or the show ...

TVFactFan
11-03-2007, 02:34 PM
I agree with Solomon about Conan, but NBC felt they had to do it to keep him from jumping to another network... now the might be regretting it.

As for SportsCenter, they only do the rundown on the morning shows because they are pre-taped and they know what will be on the show in advance. At night, I'm assuming it's run like a newscast and is sometimes changed at the last minute if something doesn't work out, or if there's breaking news.



Well they need to find a way to incorporate into the evening SportsCenter. I know the 6pm and 11pm is live but they can do sometghing to put it on there. That's why I find myself liking the morning Sportscenter a lot more

Brent88
11-03-2007, 02:59 PM
I think Leno is gonna wind up on ABC or FOX. They will offer him a late night show in a heartbeat. NBC is SO stupid. I seriously wonder if Zucker is trying to kill them. Look at their primetime right now, it's a disaster in almost every timeslot, and in the news division ABC World News tops Nightly News, and GMA is closing the gap on Today.

HE Pennypacker
11-03-2007, 03:08 PM
I completely disagree about the Jay/Conan rant. Jay Leno hasn't been funny since the OJ Simpson trial ended in 1995! He's the inoffensive, vanilla host that everybody feels safe talking to because he'll never give them a hard time. Letterman, on the other hand, doesn't mind making his guests squirm (see the recent Paris Hilton interview), and that's funny.

Jay's comedy bits are consistantly subpar. Things like Iron Jay, Headlines, and Beyondo are yawners. Conan, on the other hand, consistantly makes me laugh. Triumph The Insult Comic Dog, Pale Force, and If They Mated are just some a few of the bits I can think of that deserve a larger audience.

I've waited patiently for Leno to be shown the door, so I can enjoy The Tonight Show. Good for NBC for not wimping out. Show Big Chin the door, for the sake of comedy lovers everywhere.

TVFactFan
11-03-2007, 03:09 PM
I think Leno is gonna wind up on ABC or FOX. They will offer him a late night show in a heartbeat. NBC is SO stupid. I seriously wonder if Zucker is trying to kill them. Look at their primetime right now, it's a disaster in almost every timeslot, and in the news division ABC World News tops Nightly News, and GMA is closing the gap on Today.


I still think Today has a lock on the morning time period but once Jay is gone NBC will no longer be in the lead at night

TVFactFan
11-03-2007, 03:11 PM
I completely disagree about the Jay/Conan rant. Jay Leno hasn't been funny since the OJ Simpson trial ended in 1995! He's the inoffensive, vanilla host that everybody feels safe talking to because he'll never give them a hard time. Letterman, on the other hand, doesn't mind making his guests squirm (see the recent Paris Hilton interview), and that's funny.

Jay's comedy bits are consistantly subpar. Things like Iron Jay, Headlines, and Beyondo are yawners. Conan, on the other hand, consistantly makes me laugh. Triumph The Insult Comic Dog, Pale Force, and If They Mated are just some a few of the bits I can think of that deserve a larger audience.

I've waited patiently for Leno to be shown the door, so I can enjoy The Tonight Show. Good for NBC for not wimping out. Show Big Chin the door, for the sake of comedy lovers everywhere.


It's easy to make people laugh when you act like a monkey. My mom loves watching Conan because she think something is mentally wrong with him because of how CRAZY he acts when he comes on stage

Brent88
11-03-2007, 03:17 PM
I still think Today has a lock on the morning time period but once Jay is gone NBC will no longer be in the lead at night

Yeah, ABC has been "closing the gap" for about 3 years now and still hasn't overtaken them, but I definitely agree on the last part. I just don't understand it. Leno has consistently won the late night race for years.

TVFactFan
11-03-2007, 03:19 PM
Yeah, ABC has been "closing the gap" for about 3 years now and still hasn't overtaken them, but I definitely agree on the last part. I just don't understand it. Leno has consistently won the late night race for years.


And I never been a fan of REPLACEMENTS when it comes to TV. I rather have a long running show end than see someone new

clarkkent
11-03-2007, 03:54 PM
NBC will realize what a big mistake they've made when Conan takes over and the ratings drop sharply. Conan is probably the UNFUNNIEST "comedian" on late night tv. At least Jay makes you laugh (which is why he dominates the ratings almost daily). I'll be sad when Jay leaves but even sadder when Conan takes over.

benjamoon
11-03-2007, 06:43 PM
I think Conan has a sense of humor that fits a small niche and he won't appeal to a broad audience in the Tonight Show slot...


... but it doesn't matter because Letterman should be the King of Late Night, he is far better than Jay OR Conan

Ireneparalegal
11-03-2007, 08:59 PM
I so love Jay Leno. He is unique, funny, witty and doesn't have to resort to doing what others do (Letterman) to be at the top. Letterman is who he is and he shouldn't be compared to anyone else. Jay is himself and shouldn't be compared to anyone else. I don't recall Jay being easy on Hugh Grant when he was caught with that prostitute. Hugh appeared on Jay's show and Jay straight out asked him, "WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?" :lol: That is what we all wanted to know.

TVFactFan
11-03-2007, 09:50 PM
I so love Jay Leno. He is unique, funny, witty and doesn't have to resort to doing what others do (Letterman) to be at the top. Letterman is who he is and he shouldn't be compared to anyone else. Jay is himself and shouldn't be compared to anyone else. I don't recall Jay being easy on Hugh Grant when he was caught with that prostitute. Hugh appeared on Jay's show and Jay straight out asked him, "WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?" :lol: That is what we all wanted to know.


One of the most memorable moments on the Tonight Show

JulieSomoski
11-03-2007, 09:56 PM
One of your best rants in awhile, Solomon! I hugely agree with the Leno/Conan dispute. Jay Leno needs to stay right where he is instead of getting replaced by some clown-acting jackass who thinks he's so great. Leno is the funniest thing in television . . . although, come 2009, I'm sure ABC will find a spot for him on their schedules.

It really makes me wonder what Zucker is doing with this network. Their primetime schedule is worse than watching C-SPAN at 4am. He's screwing up the network, and now he's even screwing up it's #1 latenight schedule. I can only hope The Tonight Show's ratings drop hugely once Conan takes over.

TVFactFan
11-03-2007, 10:05 PM
One of your best rants in awhile, Solomon! I hugely agree with the Leno/Conan dispute. Jay Leno needs to stay right where he is instead of getting replaced by some clown-acting jackass who thinks he's so great. Leno is the funniest thing in television . . . although, come 2009, I'm sure ABC will find a spot for him on their schedules.

It really makes me wonder what Zucker is doing with this network. Their primetime schedule is worse than watching C-SPAN at 4am. He's screwing up the network, and now he's even screwing up it's #1 latenight schedule. I can only hope The Tonight Show's ratings drop hugely once Conan takes over.



It's going to feel so strange not turning to NBC at 11:35pm two years from now

JulieSomoski
11-03-2007, 10:15 PM
It's going to feel so strange not turning to NBC at 11:35pm two years from now

I know. I've been watching Leno since the early 90's every since night. I can't stand Conan either, and there is no way I'm gonna adjust to this one. Conan acts like a 10 year old when he's up on stage. Leno is quality comedy. But, I'm sure ABC will probably be first to grab for Leno, just because they only get less than 2 million for Jimmy Kimmel every night. Either that, or FOX, of course.

TVFactFan
11-03-2007, 10:17 PM
I know. I've been watching Leno since the early 90's every since night. I can't stand Conan either, and there is no way I'm gonna adjust to this one. Conan acts like a 10 year old when he's up on stage. Leno is quality comedy. But, I'm sure ABC will probably be first to grab for Leno, just because they only get less than 2 million for Jimmy Kimmel every night. Either that, or FOX, of course.



I hope some network gets him, he is too talented not to be seen anymore at night.

JulieSomoski
11-03-2007, 10:20 PM
I hope some network gets him, he is too talented not to be seen anymore at night.

Leno is the funniest thing on television today! I don't know what I'd do if another network didn't pick him up.

I just hope this whole thing turns around and knocks NBC on their asses. How could they just push Leno off to the side for unfunnyman Conan O'Brian. He should stay at 1:35 where he belongs.

TVFactFan
11-03-2007, 10:22 PM
Leno is the funniest thing on television today! I don't know what I'd do if another network didn't pick him up.

I just hope this whole thing turns around and knocks NBC on their asses. How could they just push Leno off to the side for unfunnyman Conan O'Brian. He should stay at 1:35 where he belongs.


I wish Conan was on at 1:35am in my area because I wouldn't have to see him-lol He is on here at 12:35am

JulieSomoski
11-03-2007, 10:25 PM
I wish Conan was on at 1:35am in my area because I wouldn't have to see him-lol He is on here at 12:35am

LOL - he's on in my area at 12:35, too, I just forgot to type the 2 in my last post.

Anyways, too bad he wasn't on later. Isn't Carson Daly on at 1:35? I've never seen his show before. I just usually go to bed after Leno.

Mr. Television
11-03-2007, 10:28 PM
LOL - he's on in my area at 12:35, too, I just forgot to type the 2 in my last post.

Anyways, too bad he wasn't on later. Isn't Carson Daly on at 1:35? I've never seen his show before. I just usually go to bed after Leno.
I prefer Craig Ferguson over Conan O'Brian. :lol:

JulieSomoski
11-03-2007, 10:42 PM
I prefer Craig Ferguson over Conan O'Brian. :lol:

I'll watch Craig Fergusion once in awhile. I loved him in The Drew Carey Show, so I'll catch him now and then on CBS.

Ireneparalegal
11-03-2007, 10:50 PM
I'll watch Craig Fergusion once in awhile. I loved him in The Drew Carey Show, so I'll catch him now and then on CBS.
Same here.

Manifan
11-03-2007, 11:51 PM
One of your best rants in awhile, Solomon! I hugely agree with the Leno/Conan dispute. Jay Leno needs to stay right where he is instead of getting replaced by some clown-acting jackass who thinks he's so great.
Totally agree with this. It's beyond me how O'Brien ever got a show of his own. He is not only unfunny, he's unpleasant to look at. Not good qualities for TV.

Mr. Television
11-03-2007, 11:53 PM
The only time I ever liked Conan is when he used to do his Bill Clinton skit. lol

TVFactFan
11-04-2007, 12:24 PM
I prefer Craig Ferguson over Conan O'Brian. :lol:


I haven't really checked him out yet.

JulieSomoski
11-04-2007, 02:31 PM
I haven't really checked him out yet.

He's okay . . . similar to Leno, just with this own style.

Does it bother anyone else how Conan is always playing with his hair? It seems like every time I turn him on, he's playing with his hair. How more egotistical can you get?

ethelmaepotter
11-05-2007, 01:12 PM
I think all late night TV is horrid. Leno just gets on my last nerve. He wasn't worthy to hold Johnny Carson's coat. That whiny voice and a head the size of a Winnebago....how he has been on this long is amazing.

Conan is a dork. He is like that annoying little freaky dweeb you wanted to slap in high school.

Letterman is annoying too. He is very arrogant and unfriendly, too.....

TVFactFan
11-05-2007, 01:15 PM
I think all late night TV is horrid. Leno just gets on my last nerve. He wasn't worthy to hold Johnny Carson's coat. That whiny voice and a head the size of a Winnebago....how he has been on this long is amazing.

Conan is a dork. He is like that annoying little freaky dweeb you wanted to slap in high school.

Letterman is annoying too. He is very arrogant and unfriendly, too.....


You sound like a person who doesn't like Late Night TV

JulieSomoski
11-05-2007, 05:39 PM
I think all late night TV is horrid. Leno just gets on my last nerve. He wasn't worthy to hold Johnny Carson's coat. That whiny voice and a head the size of a Winnebago....how he has been on this long is amazing.

Conan is a dork. He is like that annoying little freaky dweeb you wanted to slap in high school.

Letterman is annoying too. He is very arrogant and unfriendly, too.....

God, if you don't like any latenight TV personality, why even post at this thread?

mgsports
11-05-2007, 08:21 PM
The problem with Sportscenter in the Mornings is to many repeats of it and they could be having a Live one at 5am to 7am,then 7am to 9am First Take with Jay Reynolds and Josh Elliot as the Host of it,somebody at the News Desk,9am to 10am Sports Talk Show 10am to 11am Women's Sports View with Linda Cohn,Dana Jacobsen,Sage Steele and Chris McKendry as the Host,11am to 12pm Sport Bloopers,12pm to 1pm Sports Preview show to preview day in Sports,1pm to !:30pm Sports Jeopardy,1:30pm to 2pm Sports Millionare
2pm to 2:30pm Sports Night Rerun.
They can also show next season MLB Coast to Coast because the have NBA Coast to Coast.
The Strike could meaning like a NBA Game that is show on ESPN could be shown on ABC instead and so on.

TVFactFan
11-05-2007, 11:50 PM
The problem with Sportscenter in the Mornings is to many repeats of it and they could be having a Live one at 5am to 7am,then 7am to 9am First Take with Jay Reynolds and Josh Elliot as the Host of it,somebody at the News Desk,9am to 10am Sports Talk Show 10am to 11am Women's Sports View with Linda Cohn,Dana Jacobsen,Sage Steele and Chris McKendry as the Host,11am to 12pm Sport Bloopers,12pm to 1pm Sports Preview show to preview day in Sports,1pm to !:30pm Sports Jeopardy,1:30pm to 2pm Sports Millionare
2pm to 2:30pm Sports Night Rerun.
They can also show next season MLB Coast to Coast because the have NBA Coast to Coast.
The Strike could meaning like a NBA Game that is show on ESPN could be shown on ABC instead and so on.


The Repeats are understandable because it's a recap of what happened the night before. I just wish that rundown can find it's way on the LIVE Sportscenters