View Full Version : THE COST OF BLUE RAY DVD & BLUE RAY TV SERIES IS IT REALLY WORTH IT


applecherry
10-10-2007, 06:28 PM
I WAS SHOPPING YESTERDAY FOR A NEW DVD PLAYER & I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT BLUE-RAY. IT WAS NICE THE PICTURE QUALITY ETC.. I COULD NOT BELIEVE THE PRICE $650.00 FOR THE DVD PLAYER AND THE TV SET WAS $60 & UP. I HAVE OVER 3,000 MOVIE & OVER 100 TV SERIES ON HD. IF I HAD BLUE RAY I WOULD HAVE PAID MAYBE 2X AS MUCH ON MY TV SERIES SET COLLECTION ALONE IF I HAD BLUE- RAY.

DOES ANYONE HAVE BLUE-RAY AND HOW MUCH ON AVERAGE DO YOU SPEND ON THE TV SEASON SET COMPARED TO REGULAR HD SET

I HAVE A FRIEND WHOM SWITCH FROM HD TO BLUE -RAY.

IN 2006 ON HD DISKS ALONE HE ONLY SPENT $150.00 THAT YEAR (TV SERIES ONLY)

IN 2007 BLUE-RAY SETS ONLY HE SPENT WELL OVER $370.00 ON TV SEASON SETS ONLY
DOES ANYONE ELSE BUY BLUE-RAY.

HIS BLUE-RAY SEASON SET

LOST S-3 $66.95
NIP TUCK S-4 $52.95
PRISON BREAK S-3 $69.95
THE SOPRANOS S-6 PT.-1 $84.95
THE SOPRANOS S-6 PT.-2 $83.95

MY HD SEASON SET (SAME SET COMPARE PRICES)

LOST S-3 $38.99
NIPTUCK S-4 $37.99
PRISON BREAK S-3 $38.99
THE SOPRANOS S-6 PT. 1 $67.99
THE SOPRANOS S-6 PT. 2 $64.99

I THINK I WILL STICK WITH HD

Mikado
10-10-2007, 07:45 PM
im perfectly happy WITHOUT HD and all those other useless gimicks that cost so much.....TV was FINE as it was, if they force me to buy HD TV, ill just stop watching TV altogether!

comedyfreak
10-12-2007, 05:59 AM
I'm waiting to see who will win the war, they just came out with a 3rd hd format called HD VMD which is suppose to be much cheaper.

dakert
10-15-2007, 10:58 AM
What is wrong with the plain dvd tv picture? I am with Mikado on this issue.

robyrob
10-15-2007, 11:05 AM
there will be no winner in the BluRay vs HD war - only losers; the consumers that will be stuck with them.

Mikado
10-15-2007, 02:17 PM
there will be no winner in the BluRay vs HD war - only losers; the consumers that will be stuck with them.
Exactly, the electronics industry is well on its way to making the same mistake the music industry did; by forcing so many overpriced and incompatible choices on the consumer, they will lose most of their market.

applecherry
10-15-2007, 05:39 PM
What is wrong with the plain dvd tv picture? I am with Mikado on this issue.I AGREE I WAS FINE WITH PLAIN DVD TV PICTURE. UNTILL MY SISTER DECIDED TO GIVE ME AN HD. SO THE HD IS HOOKED UP IN MY LIVING ROOM WHERE I NEVER WATCH TV UNLESS I HAVE GUESTS OVER. AND MY PLAIN DVD IS IN MY ROOM WHERE I WATCH ALL MY MOVIES. SO THEY CAME OUT WITH A 3RD FORMAT HD VMD (WHAT IN THE HELL IS THAT) JUST ANOTHER LOSER ON THE MARKET I ASSUME.

Ant-Lox
10-16-2007, 12:22 PM
Well, I can see Blu ray and HD DVD being good for current shows, but for old shows, it's just a gimmick.

I think the only way I'd upgrade to HD DVD or Blu ray is if Paramount released the final season of Frasier in HD, other than that, I'm fine with regular DVD's.

spockvideo
10-30-2007, 05:29 AM
I WAS SHOPPING YESTERDAY FOR A NEW DVD PLAYER & I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT BLUE-RAY. IT WAS NICE THE PICTURE QUALITY ETC.. I COULD NOT BELIEVE THE PRICE $650.00 FOR THE DVD PLAYER AND THE TV SET WAS $60 & UP. I HAVE OVER 3,000 MOVIE & OVER 100 TV SERIES ON HD. IF I HAD BLUE RAY I WOULD HAVE PAID MAYBE 2X AS MUCH ON MY TV SERIES SET COLLECTION ALONE IF I HAD BLUE- RAY.

DOES ANYONE HAVE BLUE-RAY AND HOW MUCH ON AVERAGE DO YOU SPEND ON THE TV SEASON SET COMPARED TO REGULAR HD SET

I HAVE A FRIEND WHOM SWITCH FROM HD TO BLUE -RAY.

IN 2006 ON HD DISKS ALONE HE ONLY SPENT $150.00 THAT YEAR (TV SERIES ONLY)

IN 2007 BLUE-RAY SETS ONLY HE SPENT WELL OVER $370.00 ON TV SEASON SETS ONLY
DOES ANYONE ELSE BUY BLUE-RAY.

HIS BLUE-RAY SEASON SET

LOST S-3 $66.95
NIP TUCK S-4 $52.95
PRISON BREAK S-3 $69.95
THE SOPRANOS S-6 PT.-1 $84.95
THE SOPRANOS S-6 PT.-2 $83.95

MY HD SEASON SET (SAME SET COMPARE PRICES)

LOST S-3 $38.99
NIPTUCK S-4 $37.99
PRISON BREAK S-3 $38.99
THE SOPRANOS S-6 PT. 1 $67.99
THE SOPRANOS S-6 PT. 2 $64.99

I THINK I WILL STICK WITH HD

I wish they would just stick to the regular DVD format. I'm happy with it. Even VHS taping still has it's place.

applecherry
10-30-2007, 06:14 AM
there will be no winner in the BluRay vs HD war - only losers; the consumers that will be stuck with them.
IMAGINE THERE WERE A WINNER & BLUE-RAY WINS, AND THEY STOP MAKING REGULAR DVD'S. HOW MANY OF YOU ARE WILLING TO SWITCH OVER TO BLUE-RAY & START ALL OVER WITH YOUR TV & MOVIE COLLECTION. THERE'S NO WAY I COULD DO IT. I HAVE TO MANY REGULAR DVD'S AND THE PRICES OF THE BLUE-RAY PLAYER & DISKS IS JUST TOO MUCH.. I WOULD RATHER GO BACK TO VHS.

UNLESS THE MAKER WOULD MAKE BLUE-RAY PLAYER ABLE TO PLAY BOTH BLUE-RAY DISK AND REGULAR DVD'S I WOULD CONSIDER THE SWITCH.

robby76
10-30-2007, 10:53 AM
Why the obsession with high definition picture? Just like Star Wars, I prefer the original grainy versions without hi-tech special effects.

Corizzle
11-10-2007, 05:41 PM
To applecherry: http://grownupgeek.com/capslock.jpg

I am waiting to see who wins the HD wars or until a combo player for a reasonable price (sub-$200) comes out. But if I lived in the US I would have been on the deal Best Buy had the first week in November for sure. $169.99 for the HD-DVD XBOX 360 add-on + Heroes Season 1 + 7 HD-DVD movies. For now though you can't beat the price of regular DVD.

Mr. Television
11-10-2007, 07:33 PM
IMAGINE THERE WERE A WINNER & BLUE-RAY WINS, AND THEY STOP MAKING REGULAR DVD'S. HOW MANY OF YOU ARE WILLING TO SWITCH OVER TO BLUE-RAY & START ALL OVER WITH YOUR TV & MOVIE COLLECTION. THERE'S NO WAY I COULD DO IT. I HAVE TO MANY REGULAR DVD'S AND THE PRICES OF THE BLUE-RAY PLAYER & DISKS IS JUST TOO MUCH.. I WOULD RATHER GO BACK TO VHS.

UNLESS THE MAKER WOULD MAKE BLUE-RAY PLAYER ABLE TO PLAY BOTH BLUE-RAY DISK AND REGULAR DVD'S I WOULD CONSIDER THE SWITCH.
That's the same thing that happened to me when DVDS replaced VHS. I still got hundreds of VHS movies. I'm not replacing them all and I'm not replacing the DVDS I've already bought. This is a neverending dycle.

applecherry
02-24-2008, 02:04 AM
I'm waiting to see who will win the war, they just came out with a 3rd hd format called HD VMD which is suppose to be much cheaper.

And The Winner Is...............BLUE RAY. Alot of the store like wal-mart & best buy has stopped selling HD.
The HD fans are stuck like chuck.

Dean Winchester
02-24-2008, 02:07 AM
I think truthfully, it all depends on how big your DVD screen is. If you have a big-screen television, blu is 100 times better, but on a regular TV set, standard DVD's are just fine. It all depends on how big your TV is.

ryan423
02-24-2008, 04:52 AM
If they discontinue DVD's with BLU-RAY players being as expensive as they are, IDK what i'll do! I mean, I won't replace my tv on dvd collection. For me, the quality of DVD is good enough. Maybe in a few years when blu-ray prices go down, i'll save up for one but of course by then, everything will be on an iPod, lmfao.

Dean Winchester
02-24-2008, 04:55 AM
If they discontinue DVD's with BLU-RAY players being as expensive as they are, IDK what i'll do! I mean, I won't replace my tv on dvd collection. For me, the quality of DVD is good enough. Maybe in a few years when blu-ray prices go down, i'll save up for one but of course by then, everything will be on an iPod, lmfao.
I doubt regular DVD is going anywhere for a number of years. I think mainly video aficionados are going to be the ones to make the upgrade. Most people just rebought these movies on DVD that they had on VHS, they don't want to buy them again. It's like the SACD/DVD-Audio thing a few years ago. Hardcore audiophiles upgraded, but the average joe didn't feel like buying their sixth (or more) copy of "Rumours" after owning it on 8-track, record, cassette, cd and remastered cd. Enough is enough to most consumers. Same with DVD/Blu

thepegsdave
03-03-2008, 03:17 PM
Sorry for bumping an older thread, but I don't think TV on Blu-ray will ever have the success that TV on DVD has had.

I just don't think that the niche market is even big enough. BD is a niche market to begin with, so if TV on Blu-ray is a niche market, the studios are hardly making any money off it. The Lost third season BD only sold like 4K on its first week of release. Prison Break and Damages sold very poorly on BD (just look at the sales rank for those two shows on amazon.com), and I doubt they'll ever release more seasons of those two shows on Blu-ray.

HD has WAY PQ than SD, but for a lot of people, DVD is "good enough".

eddie146
03-22-2008, 10:43 AM
you realize all those regular dvd's you bought the last 5 years, will be garbage in the next 4 to 8 years!!

eddie146
03-22-2008, 10:50 AM
I doubt regular DVD is going anywhere for a number of years. I think mainly video aficionados are going to be the ones to make the upgrade. Most people just rebought these movies on DVD that they had on VHS, they don't want to buy them again. It's like the SACD/DVD-Audio thing a few years ago. Hardcore audiophiles upgraded, but the average joe didn't feel like buying their sixth (or more) copy of "Rumours" after owning it on 8-track, record, cassette, cd and remastered cd. Enough is enough to most consumers. Same with DVD/Blu

you cannot be so wrong, do you realize youth will control the market for blue ray and hd. those video games systems are only compatiable to blue ray and hd. young kids today and those kids parents will only want the latest thing and eventually only blue ray dvd players will be sold and only blue ray discs. this will eventually phase out the regular dvds.

eddie146
03-22-2008, 10:56 AM
Sorry for bumping an older thread, but I don't think TV on Blu-ray will ever have the success that TV on DVD has had.

I just don't think that the niche market is even big enough. BD is a niche market to begin with, so if TV on Blu-ray is a niche market, the studios are hardly making any money off it. The Lost third season BD only sold like 4K on its first week of release. Prison Break and Damages sold very poorly on BD (just look at the sales rank for those two shows on amazon.com), and I doubt they'll ever release more seasons of those two shows on Blu-ray.

HD has WAY PQ than SD, but for a lot of people, DVD is "good enough".

wrong too my friend, I remember Paramount holding out on producing dvds years ago for financial reasons.

LISTEN once the Sony's,sharps,samsungs,etc. stop making standard players this will only force a new dvd revolution. and the paramounts,disneys etc, are going to love a new generation spending money on a renewed blue ray catalog.....technology can suck too


ALSO BLU-RAY PRICES WILL GO DOWN, WHEN THEY BECOME MORE MAINSTREAM. THAT IS ALWAYS THE CASE.

silvana
03-22-2008, 11:08 AM
boy I hate to agree with eddie146, but have you noticed how big the blue-ray and hd dvd section has grown in best buy, it has gone from a half aisle to almost 2 aisles in a year. and all this kids in blockbuster are always asking for the blue ray discs.


family guy, simpsons,seinfeld are coming out on blue-ray and the are already sold out for back order.

Mr. Television
03-22-2008, 11:56 AM
boy I hate to agree with eddie146, but have you noticed how big the blue-ray and hd dvd section has grown in best buy, it has gone from a half aisle to almost 2 aisles in a year. and all this kids in blockbuster are always asking for the blue ray discs.


family guy, simpsons,seinfeld are coming out on blue-ray and the are already sold out for back order.
yep you're right and I'm not surprised. Regular DVDs aren't even going to have the life span that vhs have had. I still use my VHS tapes so I'm really out of touch. lol

dlemond
03-22-2008, 11:59 AM
Don't most Blu Ray players play regular DVDs?

If they do, regular dvds will still be worth holding onto, even if eventually they stop making them.

KonfusionFTC
03-22-2008, 01:29 PM
hold on to the regular dvds cause who knows if they will even make every dvd you have on blu-ray. I mean there is still some movies that are still only on VHS only and not even Regular DVD. So i doubt it would even make it to blu-ray

applecherry
03-23-2008, 04:14 PM
[QUOTE=KonfusionFTC]hold on to the regular dvds cause who knows if they will even make every dvd you have on blu-ray. I mean there is still some movies that are still only on VHS only and not even Regular DVD. So i doubt it would even make it to blu-ray[/QUOTE

I think in time they will make regular dvd & blue-ray players compatible to play both versions on blue- ray maybe. i don't know, i've never seen a blue-ray disk.

is the blue ray & regular dvd disks the same size or is it like a vhs tape & beta tape (one long & one short).

mraw
03-25-2008, 10:47 PM
[QUOTE=KonfusionFTC]hold on to the regular dvds cause who knows if they will even make every dvd you have on blu-ray. I mean there is still some movies that are still only on VHS only and not even Regular DVD. So i doubt it would even make it to blu-ray[/QUOTE

I think in time they will make regular dvd & blue-ray players compatible to play both versions on blue- ray maybe. i don't know, i've never seen a blue-ray disk.

is the blue ray & regular dvd disks the same size or is it like a vhs tape & beta tape (one long & one short).

Blu-ray discs and DVDs are the same size and are identical in appearance. I bought a Blu-ray player in January and I love it! The animated movies are practically flawless (the Simpsons Movie, the Pixar movies, The Ant Bully, etc.) My biggest issue with it is that it supposedly upconverts standard DVD, but it looks pretty bad on an HDTV with Blu-ray player. Some of the more recent shows hold up (Psych is a show on standard DVD that looks good), but in particular, Home Improvement is almost unwatchable. There were reports of compression issues for seasons 6 and 7, and they ring true when watching on a Blu-ray player.

Albert71292
03-31-2008, 06:34 PM
For older series shot on videotape (80's and earlier), and very old shows that were kinescoped (like the "Spike Jones" set I bought recently), I don't think high definition would help much... standard DVDs are about as good as quality would get.

thepegsdave
05-15-2008, 01:43 AM
[QUOTE=applecherry]

Blu-ray discs and DVDs are the same size and are identical in appearance. I bought a Blu-ray player in January and I love it! The animated movies are practically flawless (the Simpsons Movie, the Pixar movies, The Ant Bully, etc.) My biggest issue with it is that it supposedly upconverts standard DVD, but it looks pretty bad on an HDTV with Blu-ray player. Some of the more recent shows hold up (Psych is a show on standard DVD that looks good), but in particular, Home Improvement is almost unwatchable. There were reports of compression issues for seasons 6 and 7, and they ring true when watching on a Blu-ray player.
Blu-ray is indeed great. An HDTV does show flaws on DVDs that aren't as noticeable on a CRT SDTV. TOD sets that have 9 or 10 episodes crammed on them will most likely have compression issues and although it usually isn't unwatchable, it isn't exactly going to be that reference quality DVD and if you just watched a reference quality or near reference quality BD like No Country For Old Men or I Am Legend; It is going to look pretty awful.

Can I ask what kind of BD player you have? I have a PS3 as a BD player and I'm just wondering what kind you have. Most BD players will upconvert DVDs so they at least have watchable picture quality, so I'm just wondering what you're using to hook up you BD player to your HDTV (what type of cables).

mraw
05-17-2008, 01:29 AM
[QUOTE=mraw]
Blu-ray is indeed great. An HDTV does show flaws on DVDs that aren't as noticeable on a CRT SDTV. TOD sets that have 9 or 10 episodes crammed on them will most likely have compression issues and although it usually isn't unwatchable, it isn't exactly going to be that reference quality DVD and if you just watched a reference quality or near reference quality BD like No Country For Old Men or I Am Legend; It is going to look pretty awful.

Can I ask what kind of BD player you have? I have a PS3 as a BD player and I'm just wondering what kind you have. Most BD players will upconvert DVDs so they at least have watchable picture quality, so I'm just wondering what you're using to hook up you BD player to your HDTV (what type of cables).

I have the Sony BDP-S300 Blu-ray disc player, and it's hooked up with a Monster HDMI cable. As I've been watching SDVDs more frequently, I've noticed that the picture quality isn't bad, it's just that the "Home Improvement" sets are terrible.

Another factor to note: Blu-ray discs take forever to load. At night, I will turn it on, wait for it to accept the disc, then I go and brush my teeth, etc. and when I come back the disc still hasn't loaded fully. A lot of BDs even have progression bars like preloaders on a web site.

thepegsdave
05-19-2008, 04:29 PM
[QUOTE=thepegsdave]

I have the Sony BDP-S300 Blu-ray disc player, and it's hooked up with a Monster HDMI cable. As I've been watching SDVDs more frequently, I've noticed that the picture quality isn't bad, it's just that the "Home Improvement" sets are terrible.
Yeah, if the Home Improvement DVDs have compression issues it'll look pretty bad.

Another factor to note: Blu-ray discs take forever to load. At night, I will turn it on, wait for it to accept the disc, then I go and brush my teeth, etc. and when I come back the disc still hasn't loaded fully. A lot of BDs even have progression bars like preloaders on a web site.
A lot of the standalone BD players take forever to load and sometimes the disc doesn't load at all.

mraw
05-24-2008, 04:53 PM
[QUOTE=mraw]
Yeah, if the Home Improvement DVDs have compression issues it'll look pretty bad.


A lot of the standalone BD players take forever to load and sometimes the disc doesn't load at all.

Yes, that's happened to me before. I've rented discs from Netflix that would not load at all. I sent them back and asked for replacements, and they work fine the second time around.

I just rented "National Treasure: Book of Secrets" and I put the BD in. I went to take a SHOWER and when I came back it hadn't loaded completely yet. That's pretty ridiculous.

scareykatt
08-19-2008, 04:43 PM
That's the same thing that happened to me when DVDS replaced VHS. I still got hundreds of VHS movies. I'm not replacing them all and I'm not replacing the DVDS I've already bought. This is a neverending dycle.


quite true about the neverending cycle!


every few years, something new will come out and we need to REPLACE what we brought.


the companies are making a fortune.