Yes, but it varies from state to state. Sometimes parental permission is required, sometimes a court order is needed.

http://www.usmarriagelaws.com/search/united_states/teen_marriage_laws/

America: Where gay marriage is (nearly) still a taboo but marrying a 16 year old is still just ok!

Some great ones mentioned: the preposterous Liz Carmichael segment. Don't know what was more ridiculous the concept of the dale car or no one knowing that she was really a he. Tim McClure, I just can't believe that man is not in jail. Id say he's a complete moron, yet somehow he has gotten away with murder. The Debbie wolf case. I don't know how they could conclude anything but murder.

Bashir Kouchacji's captors kidnapping and then torturing him over the course of five days, then loading him up and taking him to a hospital after he attempted suicide.

Bashir Kouchacji's captors kidnapping and then torturing him over the course of five days, then loading him up and taking him to a hospital after he attempted suicide.

:lol:

One of my biggest Whiskey Tango moments on UM was during the Eric Tamiyasu case. The sheriff apparently ordered a civilian, and one potentially involved in the case at that, to destroy critical evidence (the burning bed debacle).

The Michael Franke segment also had me shaking my head in disgust. That whole case is one big WTF moment in my opinion. It doesn't help matters that both of these cases cast LE of my home state in a less than favorable light.

Without checking back to see if I or anyone already mentioned these:

That cop tossing the gas can in the Bobby Fuller case and telling the person who asked it was nothing important.

David Dowaliby saying his mother went missing at the same time as Jacklyn and then turned up. Nothing more was said about it, made his mother look like a suspect, which I wonder if he meant to do and whether she got grief over it.

Georgia Tann. Okay, the woman grabs children off the street, at least one parent is told where her child is, and the parents don't just go storming in, grab the kids, and have everyone involved arrested? And the mother's biggest excuse was she didn't own a car or have money for a cab? And she didn't know anyone else who had a car or even a phone to call authorities, when any normal mother would be taking names and kicking ass? I may have said this before, but WHAT THE??? Two movies and a book were based on the case but I don't know if anything could ever fully explain how this occurred at all let alone went on for 26 years! When did the FBI start handling kidnap cases? Why did it take the state to bust this up when it took place over a five-state area and should have been a huge federal case? You couldn't make this stuff up...you'd never get away with it!

Jim Bumgarner and his phantom twin. In his case, he could make this stuff up and get away with it...and did.

Georgia Rudolph, who kept dreaming of her supposed reincarnated self, Jennie, visiting the grave of her grandmother as a little girl. When she found it, the grandmother had passed away years after Jennie died as a young adult! (Or, I should say, after the date given for the death of Jennie whose existence was never proven. A candidate for "Cases You Wish UM Hadn't Done.")

I can't find this case but I know I saw it on UM. Two mothers with young children in the early 1960s stall a car on train tracks with a train coming. Maybe it happened faster in real life than on the reenactment, but they spend forever trying to save the car and don't get the kids out first? (My dad and I were yelling at them to do this, but noooooo.) So one mother and at least one child are killed. The daughter of the dead mother and identical twin of the dead child was looking for her mother's sister...who they had somehow not kept in touch with...think she found her but the whole case just smelled.

David Dowaliby saying his mother went missing at the same time as Jacklyn and then turned up. Nothing more was said about it, made his mother look like a suspect, which I wonder if he meant to do and whether she got grief over it.
I believe it was verified that she out gambling/partying that evening. I forget the particulars, but she was definitely cleared by LE.



I can't find this case but I know I saw it on UM. Two mothers with young children in the early 1960s stall a car on train tracks with a train coming. Maybe it happened faster in real life than on the reenactment, but they spend forever trying to save the car and don't get the kids out first? (My dad and I were yelling at them to do this, but noooooo.) So one mother and at least one child are killed. The daughter of the dead mother and identical twin of the dead child was looking for her mother's sister...who they had somehow not kept in touch with...think she found her but the whole case just smelled.
This is one of the ones I haven't seen in years and STILL remember yelling for them to get out of the car. I couldn't believe that they stayed on the tracks trying for so long to get the car moving, especially with three kids in the back. However, there are a couple things to keep in mind
1) They probably had way less time in real life than they did in the reenactment, like you said
2) Panic can cause people to do the strangest, non-rational things.

I seem to remember that everyone in the car died except for one of the daughters (her name is Ladonna, forgot the last name) and that they did have a reunion.

Oh, wait, here's the wiki page: http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/The_Family_of_LaDonna_Alfano

There were FIVE kids in the car, according to this. :eek: Such a sad case. Ever since I saw this one as a kid I've said that I would jump out of the car right away if a train was coming and I stalled on the tracks!

I seem to remember that everyone in the car died except for one of the daughters (her name is Ladonna, forgot the last name) and that they did have a reunion.

Oh, wait, here's the wiki page: http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/The_Family_of_LaDonna_Alfano

There were FIVE kids in the car, according to this. :eek: Such a sad case. Ever since I saw this one as a kid I've said that I would jump out of the car right away if a train was coming and I stalled on the tracks!

Now that you mention, I did seem to connect the name Donna but I wouldn't have remembered LaDonna or enough to find the case, so thanks for that.

I hope you didn't stall on railroad tracks too often, but if so, not only get out of the car, but get FAR AWAY from it, as you don't know which way the car or parts of it may go when the train strikes it. To see video of a MIRACULOUSLY NON-FATAL incident, try Googling "train hit truck A man in Turkey survived with minor injuries".

I'm not a conservative, but I have to admit I laughed at those "I'd Rather Go Hunting with Dick Cheney Than Driving with Ted Kennedy" bumper stickers.

Remember that Saturday Night Live sketch in 1980? :lol:

I believe it was verified that she out gambling/partying that evening. I forget the particulars, but she was definitely cleared by LE.

This is one of the ones I haven't seen in years and STILL remember yelling for them to get out of the car. I couldn't believe that they stayed on the tracks trying for so long to get the car moving, especially with three kids in the back. However, there are a couple things to keep in mind
1) They probably had way less time in real life than they did in the reenactment, like you said
2) Panic can cause people to do the strangest, non-rational things.

I seem to remember that everyone in the car died except for one of the daughters (her name is Ladonna, forgot the last name) and that they did have a reunion.

Oh, wait, here's the wiki page: http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/The_Family_of_LaDonna_Alfano

There were FIVE kids in the car, according to this. :eek: Such a sad case. Ever since I saw this one as a kid I've said that I would jump out of the car right away if a train was coming and I stalled on the tracks!


In addition to the above possibilities, the driver may also have been concerned for the people on the train. I don't recall if it was a freight or people train, but even if it was freight, there's a chance they didn't know that. I can see a driver thinking they had to save their passengers AND the people on the train and to do that, they had to move the car.

Georgia Tann. Okay, the woman grabs children off the street, at least one parent is told where her child is, and the parents don't just go storming in, grab the kids, and have everyone involved arrested? And the mother's biggest excuse was she didn't own a car or have money for a cab? And she didn't know anyone else who had a car or even a phone to call authorities, when any normal mother would be taking names and kicking ass? I may have said this before, but WHAT THE??? Two movies and a book were based on the case but I don't know if anything could ever fully explain how this occurred at all let alone went on for 26 years! When did the FBI start handling kidnap cases? Why did it take the state to bust this up when it took place over a five-state area and should have been a huge federal case? You couldn't make this stuff up...you'd never get away with it!




Well, from what I've read on Georgia Tann's Wikipedia page, Georgia pretty much had the entire legal system of Tennessee in her pocket. Georgia was also smart, preying mostly on poor single mothers who lacked the finances needed to fight her.

Well, from what I've read on Georgia Tann's Wikipedia page, Georgia pretty much had the entire legal system of Tennessee in her pocket. Georgia was also smart, preying mostly on poor single mothers who lacked the finances needed to fight her.

Thanks for bringing that up because once I started thinking about it again I haven't got it out of my mind, seriously wanting to grill the woman from that episode!

Okay, I am a young single mother of a daughter two or three years old, who has not only been brazenly snatched while playing in a public park, (um, why am I not on the phone now, hysterical--even if I didn't see her taken, she is missing--don't I want to know what happened to her?) Then someone calls and tells me where she is, asking me to come down and sign off my parental rights! Fine, I have no car, can't afford a cab, none of my neighbors with cars are home, either my town doesn't have a bus line or I can't get to where it runs.

Why am I not on the phone hysterically demanding a police car come over and drive me to collect my kidnapped child? Obviously, if someone called and told me they have her, I have access to a phone. The fact that I don't even care to so much as show up at the court hearing almost makes me deserve to lose my daughter!

Instead, I say, oh, well, easy come, easy go and wait till we are reunited by a TV show after 32 years! If I were the daughter, I'd be all, Mom, what gives? :cuss: I repeat, what the??? ohno:

The daughter's name was Cindy Lou Presto and I can find nothing else online regarding the aftermath of this case including a search in the book The Baby Thief at Amazon.com. Does anyone know who the mother was and what answers she had if any to her absolutely inexplicable behavior concerning this matter? If someone so much as took my cat--if it was just missing, bad enough, and I would leave no stone unturned--but if I knew someone else had it, and who that was--I would be taking names and kicking ass! :smash:

Georgia Tann's approach was more to offer to take a kid to get some kind of necessary medical treatment, then later claim to the mother that the kid in question died. So many times the mothers didn't even know that their kids were still alive. And like I said, Georgia did have the entire legal system in her pocket, so assuming they went to the police...yeah, the poor mother would be facing an uphill battle to convince the authorities to do anything.

From what I heard, the only woman who managed to get her child back from Georgia Tann. Basically she went to the building where Tann kept the kids before sending them out to other families, saw her baby through the window, reached in through the window, and took her child back.

Georgia Tann's approach was more to offer to take a kid to get some kind of necessary medical treatment, then later claim to the mother that the kid in question died. So many times the mothers didn't even know that their kids were still alive. And like I said, Georgia did have the entire legal system in her pocket, so assuming they went to the police...yeah, the poor mother would be facing an uphill battle to convince the authorities to do anything.

Yes, at least one such child has written a memoir. Wonder what she said respecting the bodies if the parents wanted them back for burial...probably claimed they'd been put in some paupers' grave to spare the parents having to pay for a funeral!

From what I heard, the only woman who managed to get her child back from Georgia Tann. Basically she went to the building where Tann kept the kids before sending them out to other families, saw her baby through the window, reached in through the window, and took her child back.

See, it doesn't surprise me that someone did this. What overwhelms me is that only one person is documented to have done this! What normal parent (single or otherwise) wouldn't be kicking down doors to get their kid back? :mumble:

I can't remember if I posted on this thread already and I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this moment yet, but...

I always crack up at the same part of the Judy Olive segment. There is a reenactment of Judy meeting up with Ulysses Roberson after they have been apart for some time and she has given birth to his son. She introduces the baby as "Alexander". Ulysses looks at the baby and says "Alexander?...No, I don't think so...we'll call him...Salaam!" The actor's delivery here is just so nonchalant and he continues on like it's no huge thing that he just renamed the kid who he was meeting for the first time.

Did anyone else think that was wild? I mean, WTF?!?! Is that how it actually went down?
I'm so glad you said that because I've always thought that was like OMG okayyyy then LOL, when he changed the kids name. That whole segment was a but bizarre to me. No offense to Judy Olive but the way she describes the encounter,
'Next he was giving me a massage then he was on top of me and then before i knew it we were engaged in sexual intercourse and i conceived my son that night':confused:

Can I please mention that in the Cheri Sizemore and Robin Stevens segment, they play this like....wind pipe type music for Yong-Sun, like in the part where they send her off to visit a friend.

Can I please mention that in the Cheri Sizemore and Robin Stevens segment, they play this like....wind pipe type music for Yong-Sun, like in the part where they send her off to visit a friend.
Haven't seen that one, only read about it. Is that the one where they steal her stuff while she's gone?

For me, it will always be when Marie Hilley faked her alias's death and then returned as her twin sister.

What. THE. Heck?!?

For me, it will always be when Marie Hilley faked her alias's death and then returned as her twin sister.

What. THE. Heck?!?
Yeah that one was definitely a WTH one!! :eek:

And of course karma bit Marie in her ass. Hard. When she got sick.

For me, it will always be when Marie Hilley faked her alias's death and then returned as her twin sister.

What. THE. Heck?!?

Yes! LOL the whole segment reminded me of a bad soap opera storyline.

Yes! LOL the whole segment reminded me of a bad soap opera storyline.
Did he really believe that was her twin? If it was anything like the segment then i would think you could tell the difference

Did he really believe that was her twin? If it was anything like the segment then i would think you could tell the difference
He did, I believe.

They made a great TV movie out of this case with Judith Light and I remember a scene where the coworkers confront her and harp at her that she isn't the twin at all and she just goes into denial.

This case is grisly and even worse than what UM showed, but that reenactment does crack me up. "Identical twins!"

This case is grisly and even worse than what UM showed, but that reenactment does crack me up. "Identical twins!"

It's better than identical cousins, I suppose..

Sigh. RIP, Patty Duke.

Some great examples have been given. For me it was the lady whose Marine brother died in Vietnam. She was convinced the government was covering up his being alive and well and saw a man around town she thought to be him. He is finally out in public at a place she can approach him and DOESN'T! She states she was told he was dangerous; if he was what does she hope to accomplish by finding him? Yet she is still campaigning to prove he is alive.

Some great examples have been given. For me it was the lady whose Marine brother died in Vietnam. She was convinced the government was covering up his being alive and well and saw a man around town she thought to be him. He is finally out in public at a place she can approach him and DOESN'T! She states she was told he was dangerous; if he was what does she hope to accomplish by finding him? Yet she is still campaigning to prove he is alive.

Good point. ;)

The update to the Steve Hadley case in which Hadley's new wife is referred to continually referred to by her full name for some unknown reason: "...with his new wife, Roxie Aldon...", "Roxie Aldon filed to annul their marriage..." As if finding out you're married to a fugitive isn't bad enough.

It kind of reminded me of Anton Kline and his interview about "Crystal Renee Spencer", which is also kind of a UM "what the..." moment.

Some great examples have been given. For me it was the lady whose Marine brother died in Vietnam. She was convinced the government was covering up his being alive and well and saw a man around town she thought to be him. He is finally out in public at a place she can approach him and DOESN'T! She states she was told he was dangerous; if he was what does she hope to accomplish by finding him? Yet she is still campaigning to prove he is alive.

I only recently saw this segment for the first time about a year and a half ago and feel it is probably one of the most wack-a-doo stories ever presented on the show.

He did, I believe.

This case is grisly and even worse than what UM showed, but that reenactment does crack me up. "Identical twins!"

The real Marie had lost 30 pounds, cut her hair and dyed it blonde. So she didn't technically look as similar as the actress in the segment. But....yeah. His friends and neighbors still saw right through her from the start.

In the Randall Utterback segment, Denise Williams mentions being followed by a black car containing Utterback, and we immediately cut to said scene with the actor playing Utterback driving a light colored car. Jeez, was the budget so low they couldn't rent a black car?

In the Randall Utterback segment, Denise Williams mentions being followed by a black car containing Utterback, and we immediately cut to said scene with the actor playing Utterback driving a light colored car. Jeez, was the budget so low they couldn't rent a black car?

LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:

In the Randall Utterback segment, Denise Williams mentions being followed by a black car containing Utterback, and we immediately cut to said scene with the actor playing Utterback driving a light colored car. Jeez, was the budget so low they couldn't rent a black car?
I can't wait to watch that again to look for that.

One case that always confused me was the one about Georgia "Geri" Boyd Tacey, the young mother who had once run with a motorcycle gang and married a military man (I can't remember if he was Army or Air Force), then started getting harassed. Then she died of a brain hemorrhage or something, and her husband (Derold) started asking around about her to try to find her relatives, and every single person he talked to clammed up and told him to forget about her and leave town. Even a local news channel he contacted ran her story once before pulling it off the air and telling him to forget it.

Whaaaaaat?

So many things about this case didn't make any sense to me. Why was Geri being stalked, presumably by members of the gang? What kind of people were these that they were able to intimidate an entire news station? What was so important about Geri that nobody wanted Derold to find out any details about her life?

The case was ultimately "solved" in the sense that Derold learned Geri's real name (Edith Geraldine Johns-Moore), and Geri's daughters were able to reconnect with their birth father, but there was never any resolution as to WTH the situation was with the biker gang. Very bizarre.

A piece of dialog from the Jeremy Bright segment that always had me thinking, WTF????

It's the moment where they're swimming in the lake and the group of guys comes up then one of the swimmers asks "is that a gun?" and the guy responds "what this? it's a toy!"

In the Randall Utterback segment, Denise Williams mentions being followed by a black car containing Utterback, and we immediately cut to said scene with the actor playing Utterback driving a light colored car. Jeez, was the budget so low they couldn't rent a black car?

Ask the actor who played Judge Fairbanks. They had to spray paint a bald cap to put on top of his head.

For me it was the lady whose Marine brother died in Vietnam. She was convinced the government was covering up his being alive and well and saw a man around town she thought to be him. He is finally out in public at a place she can approach him and DOESN'T! She states she was told he was dangerous; if he was what does she hope to accomplish by finding him? Yet she is still campaigning to prove he is alive.

As I recall, it was her teenage daughter who recognized the guy in the park immediately and SHE was the one who pointed him out. When the mom didn't want to approach him, the daughter begged her to. And the mother said if he was dangerous, she didn't want to put her children in danger so she decided to leave.

My reaction was, 'Uhhh, couldn't you just tell your kids to wait in the car and THEN approach the guy?'

But that segment was complex and had other WTF moments as well.

I just watched the heartbreaking case of the dog kennel fire. When the police are interviewing the owner after the fire, they ask her if she's noticed anything strange or had trouble with anyone and she says "no, no, nothing" in spite of the fact that someone had just opened fire with a gun and shot two of her dogs a couple of month previous!

I know that this was probably just a lazy reenactment on the part of UM and not reflective of what she actually said, but it was still a "what the ..." moment for me.

I have a 'what the..." moment every time a killer or rapist's case is discussed and then Robert Stack informs us that they were released on bail and were never seen again. And it happened way too often.

Also, I just watched the Delta Queen riverboat story yesterday. To my dismay, it was a ghost segment, but then it got worse: it was a ghost that apparently did some matchmaking for a couple who later got married. Then, when I thought I couldn't take any more of the segment, they had to inform us that they conceived their daughter in one of the riverboat's cabins. I just didn't see any point to this segment (even moreso than other ghost stories) and I was WTFing all over the place.

And lastly, Blair Adams' case is one big "What the..?" No matter how many times I watch the segment or read up on the case, it's just utterly bizarre. I keep going back to it like I'll one day be able to make sense of it.

The story about the Delta Queen makes me want to make all kinds of juvenile remarks like, “Did she also put on some Barry White and stick a needle through every one of your condoms.”

Though seriously, talking about how your daughter was conceived in one of those cabins? It’s okay to joke about it with yourselves but on national TV?! Plus every kid finds it disgusting to think of their parents having sex. Even though they know that logically had to do it at least once to produce them, it’s still not something they want to think about, not even if your parents are as impossibly beautiful as Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. So I’m imagining their poor daughter cringing at this segment.

One case that always confused me was the one about Georgia "Geri" Boyd Tacey, the young mother who had once run with a motorcycle gang and married a military man (I can't remember if he was Army or Air Force), then started getting harassed. Then she died of a brain hemorrhage or something, and her husband (Derold) started asking around about her to try to find her relatives, and every single person he talked to clammed up and told him to forget about her and leave town. Even a local news channel he contacted ran her story once before pulling it off the air and telling him to forget it.

Whaaaaaat?

So many things about this case didn't make any sense to me. Why was Geri being stalked, presumably by members of the gang? What kind of people were these that they were able to intimidate an entire news station? What was so important about Geri that nobody wanted Derold to find out any details about her life?

The case was ultimately "solved" in the sense that Derold learned Geri's real name (Edith Geraldine Johns-Moore), and Geri's daughters were able to reconnect with their birth father, but there was never any resolution as to WTH the situation was with the biker gang. Very bizarre.

I just watched this one yesterday. WTF is right. By the time the young woman passed, she was 22 years old and had SIX children. WTF right there. (Two with first hubby/boyfriend, two with Army hubby and after death it was discovered she had two more. Yikes.)

No explanation to the biker gang connection. Kudos to her Army hubby for keeping the kids together and raising them. I was curious as to why birth father of two girls was out of the picture. Did she run from him? Did she cut him off? Did he ever get a good haircut that was not a mullet?

As someone who did not have her first baby until age 32 I am still shocked that she had six kids by age 22. No judging, just......wow. That is one fertile chick!

I was watching the infamous Kevin Poulsen aka Dark Dante segment yesterday. It always kind of cracked me up how Stack rattles off all these crazy offenses Poulsen was thought to have committed such as hacking in to government computers, stealing highly classified military secrets, uncovering FBI information about the overthrow of Ferdinand Marcos, the former President of the Philippines AND...Poulsen also tape recorded the phone conversation of his friend Sean Randall. Like the icing on the cake was that he recorded his friend's phone conversations.

Speaking of which, and no offense intended, but was Sean Randall a man or a woman? I couldn't tell from the interview and the name could be unisex.

Speaking of which, and no offense intended, but was Sean Randall a man or a woman? I couldn't tell from the interview and the name could be unisex.


If I recall correctly he was non binary gender fluid.

Speaking of which, and no offense intended, but was Sean Randall a man or a woman? I couldn't tell from the interview and the name could be unisex.

She is a female

Forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but I just thought of this, after the meme I just posted on Facebook re: "Look at it Omar."

What kind of a dumbass finds a VHS tape on the side of the road (the items found in the vicinity not withstanding) and decides "Hey, let's gather the whole family around to watch this, including the kids!" Did anyone else see an issue with that? I mean, hell, what did he think it was going to be? A bootleg copy of "Superdad?" Think for a minute of the countless things a random tape could be, from family friendly product, to hardcore porn, to a friggin' snuff film. Why would anyone sit the whole family down to view a random tape they found on the side of the f***ing road?

Forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but I just thought of this, after the meme I just posted on Facebook re: "Look at it Omar."

What kind of a dumbass finds a VHS tape on the side of the road (the items found in the vicinity not withstanding) and decides "Hey, let's gather the whole family around to watch this, including the kids!" Did anyone else see an issue with that? I mean, hell, what did he think it was going to be? A bootleg copy of "Superdad?" Think for a minute of the countless things a random tape could be, from family friendly product, to hardcore porn, to a friggin' snuff film. Why would anyone sit the whole family down to view a random tape they found on the side of the f***ing road?

I'll echo you on this one. One time I found a cassette tape left outside at a gas station pump when I was still in High School. I took it home and listened to the tape. It was a woman screaming in pain and begging for water, for a good thirty minutes or so, "claiming to be in Hell". I grew up in East Texas, lots and lots of evangelical churches, so these tapes were spread around the area to scare people of hell.

Forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but I just thought of this, after the meme I just posted on Facebook re: "Look at it Omar."

What kind of a dumbass finds a VHS tape on the side of the road (the items found in the vicinity not withstanding) and decides "Hey, let's gather the whole family around to watch this, including the kids!" Did anyone else see an issue with that? I mean, hell, what did he think it was going to be? A bootleg copy of "Superdad?" Think for a minute of the countless things a random tape could be, from family friendly product, to hardcore porn, to a friggin' snuff film. Why would anyone sit the whole family down to view a random tape they found on the side of the f***ing road?
I once found a VHS tape in my mailbox with a note that said "We think you'll enjoy this!" I threw it away, afraid it would be porn or torture, or something else disgusting in nature. I definitely would not have gathered my family up and said, "Let's watch!"

My husband found an old VHS tape in our attic about a year ago. He went downstairs to watch it on the VCR-- I refused to go with him out of fear that it was going to be a snuff film, porn, or torture porn.

Apparently, it was an old NFL game with an episode of L.A. Law at the end. :)

My husband found an old VHS tape in our attic about a year ago. He went downstairs to watch it on the VCR-- I refused to go with him out of fear that it was going to be a snuff film, porn, or torture porn.

Apparently, it was an old NFL game with an episode of L.A. Law at the end. :)
:lol: This is hilarious. I imagine him teasing you for being afraid of the NFL and L.A. Law.

My husband found an old VHS tape in our attic about a year ago. He went downstairs to watch it on the VCR-- I refused to go with him out of fear that it was going to be a snuff film, porn, or torture porn.

Apparently, it was an old NFL game with an episode of L.A. Law at the end. :)

So it was torture porn and regular porn, then. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I trust you had the express written consent of the National Football League...

One time my buddy and I found an audio cassette tape by the side of the road while walking home from the school bus stop. It had gangsta rap on it, specifically Canibus and the song How We Roll. I actually kinda liked it and downloaded the song. It's also on YouTube.

One time my buddy and I found an audio cassette tape by the side of the road while walking home from the school bus stop. It had gangsta rap on it, specifically Canibus and the song How We Roll. I actually kinda liked it and downloaded the song. It's also on YouTube.

I found a perfectly serviceable (albeit dirty) copy of "Without a Paddle" on DVD in a snowbank, once. Cleaned it and gave it to a friend of mine, since I already had a copy. :lol:

My choice for a WTF moment would be the time UM received a call to their telecenter from a man who claimed that he recognized Georgia Rudolph's reincarnation story because he was also reincarnated - and he was her boyfriend in her past life! Then UM decided to give him some airtime too!

WTF UM?!?!

During the Adam Hecht segment, Adam brings Tony over for dinner at his mother's house, and they're eating burgers and fries. I thought this was kind of funny, because you wouldn't expect someone as high-class as Adam's mother to be eating fast food.

someone as high-class as Adam's mother

She had one of the fakest accents I've ever heard

I'll echo you on this one. One time I found a cassette tape left outside at a gas station pump when I was still in High School. I took it home and listened to the tape. It was a woman screaming in pain and begging for water, for a good thirty minutes or so, "claiming to be in Hell". I grew up in East Texas, lots and lots of evangelical churches, so these tapes were spread around the area to scare people of hell.

WTF?

Would have scarred me for life.

I'll echo you on this one. One time I found a cassette tape left outside at a gas station pump when I was still in High School. I took it home and listened to the tape. It was a woman screaming in pain and begging for water, for a good thirty minutes or so, "claiming to be in Hell". I grew up in East Texas, lots and lots of evangelical churches, so these tapes were spread around the area to scare people of hell.

You didn't invite your entire family into the living room to listen to it with you, did you? :lol:

I was watching the Lake Wales Haunting segment last night and had one of these.

Stack casually mentioned that Alan Mann's 16 year-old bride moved into the house. WTF?? 16?!? :mad:

I was watching the Lake Wales Haunting segment last night and had one of these.

Stack casually mentioned that Alan Mann's 16 year-old bride moved into the house. WTF?? 16?!? :mad:

My mother was 16 when she got married in the late 70s. It could be that, as in my mother's case, she was fleeing an abusive home situation with her family.

After watching many episodes on Amazon, my wtf moments go to the many cases where RS mentions the crime they did (ex murder) and they’re on the run but when they’re caught, they serve such a light sentence.

The part in the Kurt McFall segment where they bizzarly just cut to the cult guy and his victims-i mean members chanting this odd mantra.

My choice for a WTF moment would be the time UM received a call to their telecenter from a man who claimed that he recognized Georgia Rudolph's reincarnation story because he was also reincarnated - and he was her boyfriend in her past life! Then UM decided to give him some airtime too!

WTF UM?!?!
I just saw this for the very first time. Surprisingly, he actually came across as genuine and believable to me. Still, I wondered how on Earth they could air this without any evidence or proof to back it up.

I just saw this for the very first time. Surprisingly, he actually came across as genuine and believable to me. Still, I wondered how on Earth they could air this without any evidence or proof to back it up.

From what I understand, he actually made a very good pistachio pudding for the producers of UM, and hand delivered it with his testimony regarding his past life. They were all blown away by the story, and by the delicious dessert that he'd made for them. So all in all, I guess you could say...

The proof was in the pudding.

I actually watched the segment about the Green River Killer for the first ever on Amazon Prime, where they presented an extensive case for why a suspect named Bill Stevens might be the killer. Wow, I can't think of a better example of a UM segment where everyone involved was proven to be completely out to lunch about their theory.

It also surprised me to see Roderick Thorp interviewed in the segment since he wrote the novel, "Nothing Last Forever", which was eventually made into "Die Hard".

I actually watched the segment about the Green River Killer for the first ever on Amazon Prime, where they presented an extensive case for why a suspect named Bill Stevens might be the killer. Wow, I can't think of a better example of a UM segment where everyone involved was proven to be completely out to lunch about their theory.

I think it, importantly, shows just how easy it is to fabricate a very plausible case against someone. Something that is important to remember when reading about/viewing some stories where someone was convicted of something but swears they're innocent.

From what I understand, he actually made a very good pistachio pudding for the producers of UM, and hand delivered it with his testimony regarding his past life. They were all blown away by the story, and by the delicious dessert that he'd made for them. So all in all, I guess you could say...

The proof was in the pudding.

Oooooooowwwwwwwlllllll

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I think it, importantly, shows just how easy it is to fabricate a very plausible case against someone. Something that is important to remember when reading about/viewing some stories where someone was convicted of something but swears they're innocent.

I remember many years ago finding a website where all you had to do was type in a person's name and it would automatically generate a mini-essay about why that person was a horrible human being. It actually sounded very believable and genuine even though it literally was a generic template.

In the Ed Baker segment, when they bring up the possibility that Baker faked his death, Stack says something like, "despite conclusive evidence to the contrary, some believe Ed Baker is still alive."

If there's conclusive evidence that he's dead, why mention it, and why would people believe otherwise?

Speaking of Ed Baker, I always found it amusing that when Robert Stack listed all the things he splurged his money on, he mentioned two face-lifts, a new Jaguar... and disco lessons! Somehow I doubt those disco lessons ate up a large chunk of his fortune.

Somehow I doubt those disco lessons ate up a large chunk of his fortune.

Well, there's the lessons, the leisure suits, the gold chains, and let's not forget the mountains of blow that have to go with making disco enjoyable.*



*The obvious exception to this being the symphonic masterpiece "Play That Funky Music," by the composer Wild Cherry.

When the FBI agents went to Neil Gott's home, they found a dead dog chained to a tree. Then a neighbor wanders over and tells them "I have been watching their dog for them."

When the FBI agents went to Neil Gott's home, they found a dead dog chained to a tree. Then a neighbor wanders over and tells them "I have been watching their dog for them."

I mentioned that in the "unintentionally funny" thread a few days ago! Seriously, what the hell? Watching it decompose?!

This one occurred to me the other night. One of Kenneth Frank’s victims met him at a bar when she was with her friend. Her friend up & left her with a stranger who eventually raped her. She didn’t even tell her “hey I’m leaving”

That Robert Stack Unsolved Mysteries scene from Baseketball, which I never knew was a thing until tonight.

That Robert Stack Unsolved Mysteries scene from Baseketball, which I never knew was a thing until tonight.

The severed and mutilated head was stamped and postmarked Denver. The owner has not yet stepped forward...

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I once found a collection of home-burned CDs dumped in the weeds near a parking lot. Most were really nice old R&B collections, Smoky, Aretha, etc. I still have them.

My choice for a WTF moment would be the time UM received a call to their telecenter from a man who claimed that he recognized Georgia Rudolph's reincarnation story because he was also reincarnated - and he was her boyfriend in her past life! Then UM decided to give him some airtime too!

WTF UM?!?!

That was pretty interesting because the guy had underwent hypnosis long before he heard of Georgia, and the info she had given matched numerous details of his recall. I'd be open to hearing more about how this worked out.

This one occurred to me the other night. One of Kenneth Frank’s victims met him at a bar when she was with her friend. Her friend up & left her with a stranger who eventually raped her. She didn’t even tell her “hey I’m leaving”

Definitely a WTF moment. I believe the victim had only gone to the bathroom. And when she got back, her friend had already left.

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Definitely a WTF moment. I believe the victim had only gone to the bathroom. And when she got back, her friend had already left.

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Yeah, that was a spectacularly s***ty friend. One of my exes got drugged at a bar a couple years ago while hanging out with similar types of friends. Lucky for her she was able to get in touch with her mother to get her home before anything happened.

The Dub Wackerhagen case.

For a long time I thought Dub was responsible for LaTricia's death and then took off and created a new life but the latest update indicated Dub was not the killer.

Definitely a WTF moment. I believe the victim had only gone to the bathroom. And when she got back, her friend had already left.

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You have to wonder how that guy convinced them to leave. None of my friends have ever ditched me when I'm in the toilet.

You have to wonder how that guy convinced them to leave. None of my friends have ever ditched me when I'm in the toilet.

You have a better class of friend.

You have a better class of friend.

Well my friends watched Black Hawk Down and Band of Brothers, so they know the code...No one gets left behind

Well my friends watched Black Hawk Down and Band of Brothers, so they know the code...No one gets left behind

F***in' A.

A WTF moment for me: in the Neil Jennings segment, his killer Bill Roberts asks a friend if he can park Neil’s truck on his property. The friend agrees, and later notices drops of blood on the truck’s bumper. Not sure if it really happened, but in the re-enactment, the friend reaches down and TOUCHES the blood! Not only WTF, but ew. Most people would never touch an unknown persons blood with their bare hands. I think this occurred in the late 80s, at the height of the AIDS crisis. You’d think people would be more careful. I get uneasy at the sight of blood and that was just odd.

The Randolph Dial segment regarding the prison "arts" program. Why on Earth would a convicted murderer be permitted to be alone with a civilian with no guard nearby? I understand it was a minimum security facility, but still, what the? I have a lot of respect for Randy Parker for sticking by his wife, and I'm not slamming him for this, but it seems odd that this would ever have been authorized in the first place.

The Randolph Dial segment regarding the prison "arts" program. Why on Earth would a convicted murderer be permitted to be alone with a civilian with no guard nearby? I understand it was a minimum security facility, but still, what the? I have a lot of respect for Randy Parker for sticking by his wife, and I'm not slamming him for this, but it seems odd that this would ever have been authorized in the first place.

yes I wonder about this every time I watch the segment. I could be wrong, but does he not also mention in the segment that Dial had a crush on her as well?

yes I wonder about this every time I watch the segment. I could be wrong, but does he not also mention in the segment that Dial had a crush on her as well?

Yes, I believe both Randy Parker and Robert Stack mention Dial developing a crush on her.

The Randolph Dial segment regarding the prison "arts" program. Why on Earth would a convicted murderer be permitted to be alone with a civilian with no guard nearby?

Similar madness to the Jon Yount prison situation leading to his escape.

I always found it crazy when Katherine Korzillius's mum found her daughter and said how not a hair was out of place, she looked neat, no creases on her clothes, her toes were pointed etc, as though in that state of panic anybody would notice such minor details or be staring long enough to take all that in. You'd surely only think 'Hurry, get her to hospital' and would grab her in seconds.