Here is a photo of Lucy and Desi's last moment as Lucy and Ricky in 1960. Lucy filed for divorce the next morning. :crying:

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Aaww, im choking up here :(

Aww, that is sad that they wouldn't be together again.

I never knew Lucy filed for divorce the next morning! I'll never look at that episode in the same way again. :( Did Desi know she was doing this? Or was it a surprise to him? I know they had problems but I'm just curious as to whether or not he knew it was final? (I'm in the process of reading their books but until then.. gotta ask lol).

That's so sad. They really were the perfect couple IMO with that never ending love for each other.

I never knew Lucy filed for divorce the next morning! I'll never look at that episode in the same way again. :( Did Desi know she was doing this? Or was it a surprise to him? I know they had problems but I'm just curious as to whether or not he knew it was final? (I'm in the process of reading their books but until then.. gotta ask lol).

That's so sad. They really were the perfect couple IMO with that never ending love for each other.
I would like to know as well. Did Desi know?

God, their relationship at times mirrored my own relationship with my ex-husband (late ex-husband). Though we divorced and had a few hard years filled with hate and rage towards each other, we eventually became friends again and when he passed, I was devastated. I know that is how it was for Lucy and Desi. They couldn't remain married, but deep down inside, they had a love that no one could touch. They shared children and they knew that even though they couldn't be a married couple, it didn't stop the love they had for each other. They said some great things abt each other and I think that is a great lesson for people who have divorced and have children.

I wished theyd of stayed together, i wonder why they divorced?

Here are some excerpts from Lucy's autobiography, Love, Lucy, (in her own words):

"The following spring (1959), I made my last effort towards a reconciliation with Desi."

"Big Desi was restless, uncommunicative and bored. When he wasn't drinking, he spent most of his time on the phone with the studio or checking the Del Mar racetrack, where his horses were running. I was completely disenchanted, bitter, and unforgiving...and the kids saw and heard way too much."

"Desi and I came back from our trip (to Europe) not speaking. He moved into the guesthouse and then went abroad again, alone this time, for several months."

"I was able to accept our situation for many years because it was our secret. Anonymity is a great thing when you're unhappy. But when Desi made it public domain, I knew I couldn't be publicly embarrassed any longer."

"And Desi's conduct toward me in front of other people became more and more humiliating."

It is horrible for us fans to hear this, but that's how it was. I believe they really loved each other but there were too many other things going on. Let's face it, Desi was a drinker, smoker, womanizer and gambler.

Lucy admits she wasn't perfect, but I think she really tried. In later years I saw their home movies and it was evident they loved each other and still enjoyed each other's company. Too bad people make irreversable mistakes.

So you make the call. Was Lucy's divorce announcement a surprise to Desi?

Well, whether she told him or not abt her filing for divorce, Desi should not have been surprised by it. I mean, he created the rift that caused Lucy to eventually throw in the towel and give up. I know from what I read, Lucy tried desperately to make things work, she really loved Desi. But Desi felt like he could treat Lucy like a doormat. That she would always be there and put up with whatever he dished out. So, in essence I am sure he was surprised that Lucy did finally give up and filed for divorce.

Here is a photo in the last episode "Lucy Meets the Moustache," where Edie Adams sings "That's All." It was so touching. Lucy cried all through this episode because she knew what it meant: the end of her marriage, and the last time she, Desi, Vivian and Bill would ever be together.

Notice Lucy's face and notice Desi's obliviousness.

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I feel so bad for Lucy and Desi. I mean, these are two people who should have remained together. It was fate. Desi had his faults and issues and paid dearly for that.

Thanx Stacy for that beautiful but sad pic.

I never knew Lucy filed for divorce the next morning! I'll never look at that episode in the same way again. :( Did Desi know she was doing this? Or was it a surprise to him?

Yes, Desi knew Lucy would be filing for divorce. In fact, they only had one attorney between them handling the whole divorce proceeding. They knew for months they were getting divorced, but because of obligations to CBS, decided they had to wait until those obligations were fulfilled before proceeding with the divorce. They had been separated for months. Desi decided to let Lucy go through with the divorce uncontested.

Yes, Desi knew Lucy would be filing for divorce. In fact, they only had one attorney between them handling the whole divorce proceeding. They knew for months they were getting divorced, but because of obligations to CBS, decided they had to wait until those obligations were fulfilled before proceeding with the divorce. They had been separated for months. Desi decided to let Lucy go through with the divorce uncontested.

Yes, that is why the last episode is so touching. With her listening to that song, and the way Desi nustled her in the final scene, it is gut-wrenching for all who knew what was happening.

Thanks everyone for your answers.

All of it is just so sad. :( At least they are together again now.

Thanks everyone for your answers.

All of it is just so sad. :( At least they are together again now.
Oh most definitely. I can imagine Desi with open arms as Lucy entered eternity with him. :( :)


What happened to Gary Morton?

Oh most definitely. I can imagine Desi with open arms as Lucy entered eternity with him. :( :)

Same here :)

Oh most definitely. I can imagine Desi with open arms as Lucy entered eternity with him. :( :)


What happened to Gary Morton?
I always wondered whatever happened to Gary Morton myself. Is he even still alive??

I always wondered whatever happened to Gary Morton myself. Is he even still alive??

Gary remarried several years after Lucy died to a (much, much younger) golf pro in Palm Springs named Susie McAllister. He died of lung cancer in 1999, 10 years after Lucille Ball passed away.

Oh most definitely. I can imagine Desi with open arms as Lucy entered eternity with him. :( :)


What happened to Gary Morton?

According to Lee Tannen, right after Lucy died, Gary commented something like, "Now she can finally be with Desi." And a day or two after her death, he rearranged the furniture, stating "now things around here are going to be MY way." Some people (here I believe?) claimed he was having an affair with Susie McAllister behind Lucy's back. I do know he was dating her about two years after Lucy died, but it was several years before they married. He died almost exactly 10 years after Lucy.

Yes, that is why the last episode is so touching. With her listening to that song, and the way Desi nustled her in the final scene, it is gut-wrenching for all who knew what was happening.

Edie Adams said she was unaware how bad things were between Lucy and Desi until they did that show. She was told to sing a song and they let her pick one. So she picked "That's All" without realizing Lucy and Desi's marital situation and, I guess, was a bit embarrassed because it was a bit too personal. During that week, though, the tension between Lucy and Desi was obvious (they wouldn't speak to one another directly), so everyone on the set pretty much knew.

Edie Adams said she was unaware how bad things were between Lucy and Desi until they did that show. She was told to sing a song and they let her pick one. So she picked "That's All" without realizing Lucy and Desi's marital situation and, I guess, was a bit embarrassed because it was a bit too personal. During that week, though, the tension between Lucy and Desi was obvious (they wouldn't speak to one another directly), so everyone on the set pretty much knew.

Oh, did any of you attend the Lucy convention in Burbank when Edie Adams appeared at the banquet? I think it was in 2001. She sang "That's all," while they simultaneously played that clip from the Lucy-Desi Hour. It was very touching.

Edie Adams said she was unaware how bad things were between Lucy and Desi until they did that show. She was told to sing a song and they let her pick one. So she picked "That's All" without realizing Lucy and Desi's marital situation and, I guess, was a bit embarrassed because it was a bit too personal. During that week, though, the tension between Lucy and Desi was obvious (they wouldn't speak to one another directly), so everyone on the set pretty much knew.
This is very interesting. Thanx for the info. So much of Lucy I yet to know abt.

There's no doubt that Desi was the love of Lucy's life and vice versa, I saw both of them say EXACTLY that in seperate TV interviews; unfortunately, Desi couldnt control his demons, or they would have been together til death tore them assunder.

I find that statement by Gary Morton "Now she can finally be with Desi." to be the most telling of all, he KNEW he was never #1 in her heart

I find that statement by Gary Morton "Now she can finally be with Desi." to be the most telling of all, he KNEW he was never #1 in her heart

The whole thing is so sad. Obviously Lucy and Desi always loved each other. Poor Gary and Edith always played second fiddle.

According to Lucy: Although Arnaz remarried after his divorce from Ball in 1960, they remained friends. It was evident that they still loved each other very much, as they continued to speak by telephone every single night until his death. Despite the divorce, he continued to send Lucy flowers every year on their wedding anniversary, which was November 30 (June 19 was the date they were married in a church). After their divorce, Lucille got into an accident while making a film with Bob Hope. When Arnaz heard, he rode by horse from his ranch to the hospital. Family home movies later aired on television showed Ball and Arnaz playing together with their mutual grandson, Simon (or "Simón", if Arnaz's mock protests are to be believed), shortly before his death.

There's no doubt that Desi was the love of Lucy's life and vice versa, I saw both of them say EXACTLY that in seperate TV interviews; unfortunately, Desi couldnt control his demons, or they would have been together til death tore them assunder.

I find that statement by Gary Morton "Now she can finally be with Desi." to be the most telling of all, he KNEW he was never #1 in her heart
Very well said. I have said it before and I will say it again, Lucy loved Desi. She just didn't love what he put her through. She never said he was a bad man overall. Lucy had the love and respect to never do to Desi in public what so many divorcing couples did and continue to do, badmouth their soon-to-be ex-spouse. These two people had children. Lucy knew no matter what kind of husband he was to her, Desi would always remain the father of her children FOREVER.

I so applaud Lucy for having the class, the charm and the respect to remain so quiet abt what Desi did to her, the hate, the anger, the drama, etc. Instead, she held her head up high and reminded the world that Desi was a genius for inventing the 3 camera technique for filming in front of a live audience. She talked abt him highly. That is why as I was growing up I always wondered why they divorced. I remember asking my sister and when she told me abt Desi's drinking, womanizing, gambling, etc. it just tore my heart apart. I couldn't imagine that Lucy would talk so highly abt a man who had done those things to her. Of course, as an adult, I came to understand her reasons why.

Very well said. I have said it before and I will say it again, Lucy loved Desi. She just didn't love what he put her through. She never said he was a bad man overall. Lucy had the love and respect to never do to Desi in public what so many divorcing couples did and continue to do, badmouth their soon-to-be ex-spouse. These two people had children. Lucy knew no matter what kind of husband he was to her, Desi would always remain the father of her children FOREVER.

I so applaud Lucy for having the class, the charm and the respect to remain so quiet abt what Desi did to her, the hate, the anger, the drama, etc. Instead, she held her head up high and reminded the world that Desi was a genius for inventing the 3 camera technique for filming in front of a live audience. She talked abt him highly. That is why as I was growing up I always wondered why they divorced. I remember asking my sister and when she told me abt Desi's drinking, womanizing, gambling, etc. it just tore my heart apart. I couldn't imagine that Lucy would talk so highly abt a man who had done those things to her. Of course, as an adult, I came to understand her reasons why.

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According to Lucy: Although Arnaz remarried after his divorce from Ball in 1960, they remained friends. It was evident that they still loved each other very much, as they continued to speak by telephone every single night until his death. Despite the divorce, he continued to send Lucy flowers every year on their wedding anniversary, which was November 30 (June 19 was the date they were married in a church). After their divorce, Lucille got into an accident while making a film with Bob Hope. When Arnaz heard, he rode by horse from his ranch to the hospital. Family home movies later aired on television showed Ball and Arnaz playing together with their mutual grandson, Simon (or "Simón", if Arnaz's mock protests are to be believed), shortly before his death.

That's so sweet!!! I'm glad they remained so close!!! I too believe that they were the love of each other's lives. I find their story to be both sad, but also very interesting.

There's no doubt that Desi was the love of Lucy's life and vice versa, I saw both of them say EXACTLY that in seperate TV interviews; unfortunately, Desi couldnt control his demons, or they would have been together til death tore them assunder.

I find that statement by Gary Morton "Now she can finally be with Desi." to be the most telling of all, he KNEW he was never #1 in her heart
My feelings exactly!!

Thanks, folks, for the info on Gary Morton. I'd wondered what'd happened to him after Lucy passed on.

These comments are from the Fidelman book ("The Lucy Book") regarding the final episode, "Lucy Meets the Moustache":

BERT GRANET
(PRODUCER)
By this point, Lucy and Desi were barely speaking to one another. The entire enterprise had begun to disintegrate. Morale hardly existed.

EDIE ADAMS
(ACTOR/SINGER)
I had no idea there was going to be a problem with this show. Ernie and I were newly moved to California, and we hadn't heard any of the gossip. We were only concerned with what we were going to do and wear. My first call [at the studio] was before lunch, and I showed up with my usual long page boy hairstyle. Lucille looked at me, and then huddled with Irma Kusely in a corner. Irma came over to me and said, 'I'm sorry, but we're going to have to redo your hair. Miss Ball doesn't like your hair." No one had ever complained about my hair before, but I decided to acquiesce. Ernie then asked Lucy to lunch and left me there to get my head soaked. I was furious. Desi came over and apologized. "She's just in one of those moods," he said. So Irma redid my hair, and she put it in a chignon just like Lucy's. I looked terrible. When they came back from lunch, Lucy took one look at me, huddled with Irma again, and again Irma tells me she has to redo my hair. Again I got soaked and rolled, and my hair came out exactly the way it was when I walked in. All this for one shot at four in the afternoon.

IRMA KUSELY
(HAIRSTYLIST)
Everything Edie said is true. Lucille was so unhappy and distraught. It was not because Lucille was a bitch, but because she was stressed out.

EDIE ADAMS
(ACTOR/SINGER)
Desi directed the show. He was charming and brilliant. After five minutes with him you knew that he knew what was funny and what was not. He was a marvelous director because he knew how to set things up for the comedy. He was a hands-on floor director, as opposed to someone who just sat up in the booth and talked over a microphone. Lucy was another story. I just couldn't seem to please her. If I concentrated on learning my blocking, she'd say, "Stop! That's no way to read that line!" So, I'd do it full out as I were on Broadway, and she'd say, "Stop! You're not in your light!" Of course, the lights weren't on yet, but she knew where the lights were going to be. So it went, back and .forth. And not just with me, but with all of the cast and crew.
Once it became obvious that this was an unusual situation because of the pending divorce, I just decided to go along with it and just get through it. Both Ernie and I stayed out of it and just did our jobs. Bill and Vivian were the same way. They were almost on autopilot. Ernie and I weren't sitcom people, we were sketch comedians. The only thing I really enjoyed doing was my song, "That's All." Things were very strained with Desi and Lucy. He could be three feet away from her, but he'd ask someone else to repeat his directions to her. Then she would respond the same way, asking some intermediary to repeat her curses at Desi. The language flew fast and furiously. This went on with every shot for the entire show. Everybody was walking around on glass. The show was written so that Lucy and Desi had as few moments together on camera as possible. The Arnazes were both so obviously unhappy, and the comedy seemed forced because of it. Lucy would just start crying, or would be holding back tears. She was so troubled. Everyone knew we had to get the show in the can because we knew it was over and none of us were coming back to that set.

KEITH THIBODEAUX
(ACTOR/MUSICIAN)
We really shot into the night to finish this one. The next day, my Dad told me that I was out of a job because they were going to get a divorce. It was a shock to me. As far as I knew, we were coming back for more shows. I had known there were problems, because the tension between Lucy and Desi on the set was very noticeable. The rehearsal process was business as usual, but between them it was different.

What happened to Gary Morton?
I think he is still alive.

No mention here of Edie picking that song to sing. I must have remembered that from either one of her TV interviews, or one of the other Lucy bios.

These comments are from the Fidelman book ("The Lucy Book") regarding the final episode, "Lucy Meets the Moustache":

BERT GRANET
(PRODUCER)
By this point, Lucy and Desi were barely speaking to one another. The entire enterprise had begun to disintegrate. Morale hardly existed.

EDIE ADAMS
(ACTOR/SINGER)
I had no idea there was going to be a problem with this show. Ernie and I were newly moved to California, and we hadn't heard any of the gossip. We were only concerned with what we were going to do and wear. My first call [at the studio] was before lunch, and I showed up with my usual long page boy hairstyle. Lucille looked at me, and then huddled with Irma Kusely in a corner. Irma came over to me and said, 'I'm sorry, but we're going to have to redo your hair. Miss Ball doesn't like your hair." No one had ever complained about my hair before, but I decided to acquiesce. Ernie then asked Lucy to lunch and left me there to get my head soaked. I was furious. Desi came over and apologized. "She's just in one of those moods," he said. So Irma redid my hair, and she put it in a chignon just like Lucy's. I looked terrible. When they came back from lunch, Lucy took one look at me, huddled with Irma again, and again Irma tells me she has to redo my hair. Again I got soaked and rolled, and my hair came out exactly the way it was when I walked in. All this for one shot at four in the afternoon.

IRMA KUSELY
(HAIRSTYLIST)
Everything Edie said is true. Lucille was so unhappy and distraught. It was not because Lucille was a bitch, but because she was stressed out.

EDIE ADAMS
(ACTOR/SINGER)
Desi directed the show. He was charming and brilliant. After five minutes with him you knew that he knew what was funny and what was not. He was a marvelous director because he knew how to set things up for the comedy. He was a hands-on floor director, as opposed to someone who just sat up in the booth and talked over a microphone. Lucy was another story. I just couldn't seem to please her. If I concentrated on learning my blocking, she'd say, "Stop! That's no way to read that line!" So, I'd do it full out as I were on Broadway, and she'd say, "Stop! You're not in your light!" Of course, the lights weren't on yet, but she knew where the lights were going to be. So it went, back and .forth. And not just with me, but with all of the cast and crew.
Once it became obvious that this was an unusual situation because of the pending divorce, I just decided to go along with it and just get through it. Both Ernie and I stayed out of it and just did our jobs. Bill and Vivian were the same way. They were almost on autopilot. Ernie and I weren't sitcom people, we were sketch comedians. The only thing I really enjoyed doing was my song, "That's All." Things were very strained with Desi and Lucy. He could be three feet away from her, but he'd ask someone else to repeat his directions to her. Then she would respond the same way, asking some intermediary to repeat her curses at Desi. The language flew fast and furiously. This went on with every shot for the entire show. Everybody was walking around on glass. The show was written so that Lucy and Desi had as few moments together on camera as possible. The Arnazes were both so obviously unhappy, and the comedy seemed forced because of it. Lucy would just start crying, or would be holding back tears. She was so troubled. Everyone knew we had to get the show in the can because we knew it was over and none of us were coming back to that set.

KEITH THIBODEAUX
(ACTOR/MUSICIAN)
We really shot into the night to finish this one. The next day, my Dad told me that I was out of a job because they were going to get a divorce. It was a shock to me. As far as I knew, we were coming back for more shows. I had known there were problems, because the tension between Lucy and Desi on the set was very noticeable. The rehearsal process was business as usual, but between them it was different.

I so applaud Lucy for having the class, the charm and the respect to remain so quiet abt what Desi did to her, the hate, the anger, the drama, etc. Instead, she held her head up high and reminded the world that Desi was a genius for inventing the 3 camera technique for filming in front of a live audience. She talked abt him highly. That is why as I was growing up I always wondered why they divorced. I remember asking my sister and when she told me abt Desi's drinking, womanizing, gambling, etc. it just tore my heart apart. I couldn't imagine that Lucy would talk so highly abt a man who had done those things to her. Of course, as an adult, I came to understand her reasons why.

Lucille Ball had an extremely high work ethic, was a risk taker, comedy pioneer, astute businesswoman, studio head, and believed in the integrity of marriage. So many reasons why I'm a big fan of Miss Ball--a classy lady if there ever was one!:thumbsup:

Thanks for that info.

Here are some excerpts from Lucy's autobiography, Love, Lucy, (in her own words):

"The following spring (1959), I made my last effort towards a reconciliation with Desi."

"Big Desi was restless, uncommunicative and bored. When he wasn't drinking, he spent most of his time on the phone with the studio or checking the Del Mar racetrack, where his horses were running. I was completely disenchanted, bitter, and unforgiving...and the kids saw and heard way too much."

"Desi and I came back from our trip (to Europe) not speaking. He moved into the guesthouse and then went abroad again, alone this time, for several months."

"I was able to accept our situation for many years because it was our secret. Anonymity is a great thing when you're unhappy. But when Desi made it public domain, I knew I couldn't be publicly embarrassed any longer."

"And Desi's conduct toward me in front of other people became more and more humiliating."

It is horrible for us fans to hear this, but that's how it was. I believe they really loved each other but there were too many other things going on. Let's face it, Desi was a drinker, smoker, womanizer and gambler.

Lucy admits she wasn't perfect, but I think she really tried. In later years I saw their home movies and it was evident they loved each other and still enjoyed each other's company. Too bad people make irreversable mistakes.

So you make the call. Was Lucy's divorce announcement a surprise to Desi?

Years ago I got a copy of desi's book "A Book". Its been a few years since I read it and I will try to remember what it said. In the book Desi does mention about Lucy going to drinking fountain at Desliu to take a drink of water. Desi followed her there and told her "I want a divorce". Lucy didnt say anything.

That night Lucy went off at Desi for suggesting a divorce, saying she would get back at him and such, calling him every dirty name under the sun. Desi then gives Lucy a piece of paper with a man's phone number. A man Lucy was seeing behind Desi's back. This shocks Lucy and Desi tells her never to threat him again.

Again its been awhile since I read "A Book" and I may have left something out
but like most other divorce cases, there is always two sides of it.

Was Lucy's divorce announcement a surprise to Desi?

Not only was it not a surprise, but it was a mutual decision. In fact, if you read Desi's book, it appears he may have been the first to suggest getting a divorce. He flat out told her he wanted out of the marriage. But they tried to be a civil as possible under the circumstances, and hired a single lawyer to represent them both (a highly unusual thing to do). But Desi agreed to let Lucy be the one to file for divorce.

Years ago I got a copy of desi's book "A Book". Its been a few years since I read it and I will try to remember what it said. In the book Desi does mention about Lucy going to drinking fountain at Desliu to take a drink of water. Desi followed her there and told her "I want a divorce". Lucy didnt say anything.

That night Lucy went off at Desi for suggesting a divorce, saying she would get back at him and such, calling him every dirty name under the sun. Desi then gives Lucy a piece of paper with a man's phone number. A man Lucy was seeing behind Desi's back. This shocks Lucy and Desi tells her never to threat him again.

Again its been awhile since I read "A Book" and I may have left something out
but like most other divorce cases, there is always two sides of it.

Thanks for that. That is exactly what I was just referring to, but I couldn't remember the specifics.

I find that statement by Gary Morton "Now she can finally be with Desi." to be the most telling of all, he KNEW he was never #1 in her heart

Equally telling is how Gary (supposedly) jokingly referred to Desi as his "ex husband-in-law," suggesting that Desi was still tied to Lucy.

Desi then gives Lucy a piece of paper with a man's phone number. A man Lucy was seeing behind Desi's back. This shocks Lucy and Desi tells her never to threat him again.

Wow, I knew Desi had other women but I never knew Lucy was cheating as well.
So weird how two people can love each other so much.. and yet still go around with other lovers.

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Wow, I knew Desi had other women but I never knew Lucy was cheating as well.
So weird how two people can love each other so much.. and yet still go around with other lovers.
Very simple really, your husband keeps seeking OTHERS, and then, no longer has sex with you, you feel unwanted and seek to prove that you still have it after all. There's lots of quotes to substantiate all this. Lucy one time, for LOOK magazine yet, admitted she also liked to play games, Desi loved reading that because for her to admit cheating in that time period, and her with her General Foods IMAGE as she called it, took guts. But say what you will about Lucy, she was always blunt and very frank and above board about things.

No mention here of Edie picking that song to sing. I must have remembered that from either one of her TV interviews, or one of the other Lucy bios.
On that thread where I mentioned that PBS Lucy documentary, that is where Edie speaks to the camera and talks in detail abt her choosing that song "That's All" for the final episode. Although I had read abt that here on the ILL board, it wasn't until I seen that PBS documentary that I had actually heard Edie talk abt that moment for the first time. Edie speaks volumes abt how it felt being on that set that day, the overall feeling of everyone, Lucy and Desi included and the famous moment where she sang that song, not knowing what the rest of the world would soon to find out in two days abt the Arnaz's finally calling it quits.

I was trying to remember where I heard the song That's All before and finally remembered:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7102255626313019836&q=Ace+young+%22That%27s+All%22&total=6&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
Edie Adams sang it much better though.
I never saw The Lucy Desi comedy hour that I can remember. I know it was on Nick at Nite but I didn't watch. I hear they weren't as funny?

Lucille Ball had an extremely high work ethic, was a risk taker, comedy pioneer, astute businesswoman, studio head, and believed in the integrity of marriage. So many reasons why I'm a big fan of Miss Ball--a classy lady if there ever was one!:thumbsup:
I gathered that after seeing an episode of Password from 1966. Dean Martin was go be a guest on The Lucy Show, Allen Ludden asked her when are they working on the show. Lucy said they work four days a week which is rehearsing and they tape on Thursdays. She and Gary Morton mentioned that Dean shows up when he wants no sooner than the day before they film the episode. Lucy made it clear that when he shows up he's going to be working like everyone else. She's and Gary are good players on Password, I enjoyed watching the episodes very much.

I gathered that after seeing an episode of Password from 1966. Dean Martin was go be a guest on The Lucy Show, Allen Ludden asked her when are they working on the show. Lucy said they work four days a week which is rehearsing and they tape on Thursdays. She and Gary Morton mentioned that Dean shows up when he wants no sooner than the day before they film the episode. Lucy made it clear that when he shows up he's going to be working like everyone else. She's and Gary are good players on Password, I enjoyed watching the episodes very much.
Dean was in Hawaii or some other place and only showed up at the last minute, well, last minute for Lucy. The thing she loved was that even without her heavy rehearsal schedule, he was prepared, knew his lines and she later called it the best show she ever did. She just wasn't used to doing things that way, like Gleason or Dean, who hated rehearsing, she was shocked to see how well the show turned out, i agree that it's one of the best shows she ever did. Of course, when she loved the performer, it always ended up being a better show.

After their divorce, Lucille got into an accident while making a film with Bob Hope. When Arnaz heard, he rode by horse from his ranch to the hospital.

Where did you hear that? I seriously doubt it. I mean, I know that he rushed to the hospital and then took care of her at home for a few days. But I don't know about the horse part. It makes me smile thinking about it, though. Desi galloping up on his black stallion, silver hair flying in the wind... :D

Yes, the film was Facts of Life, and seeing as it was filmed at Desilu for United Artists, i doubt Desi had to gallop very far, he was on the lot at the time. I loved his retort to Hope though, i worked with her for years and years and never felt the urge to hit her, why couldn't you control yourself he asked Bob, LOL!

Yes, the film was Facts of Life, and seeing as it was filmed at Desilu for United Artists, i doubt Desi had to gallop very far, he was on the lot at the time. I loved his retort to Hope though, i worked with her for years and years and never felt the urge to hit her, why couldn't you control yourself he asked Bob, LOL!

Yeah, but weren't they out on a boat when she got knocked out?

Yes, but a boat ON THE SET, did you not see the movie, it was a fake boat set, she was going into the boat and lost her balance and slipped and opened a gash in her head or something. And this was right after she and Hope bragged that the movie was going along so smoothly and without any problems, LOL! However, you may be right about one thing, this might have been the Culver City lot and Desi was probably at the Gower street main place, so he had to gallop quite a distance on the freeway, LOL!

I never saw The Lucy Desi comedy hour that I can remember. I know it was on Nick at Nite but I didn't watch. I hear they weren't as funny?
Right after the last episode of ILL airs on a local FOX affiliate, they start showing the Lucy-Desi comedy hour episodes. I watch them from time to time, but I could never get myself into those episodes as much as ILL. For some reason the comedy didn't seem to flow or seem as funny as ILL. I can't put my finger on it. I don't know if it had to do with the writing or the way the fab four acted. It almost seemed "forced" comedy like Lucy was having to overdo it. I can't put it into words.

Right after the last episode of ILL airs on a local FOX affiliate, they start showing the Lucy-Desi comedy hour episodes. I watch them from time to time, but I could never get myself into those episodes as much as ILL. For some reason the comedy didn't seem to flow or seem as funny as ILL. I can't put my finger on it. I don't know if it had to do with the writing or the way the fab four acted. It almost seemed "forced" comedy like Lucy was having to overdo it. I can't put it into words.

Yeah, I kinda agree with you there. I chalk it up L&D not being very happy in their marriage. They were really having a lot of problems during those last three years when they were doing LDCH. They both seem a little rougher around the edges, not the youthful people they were in the early 50s. Even Ricky seems louder and meaner when he yells at Lucy. More impatient.

On the very first LDCH, "Lucy Goes to Havana," Ricky asks Lucy if she wants a drink. Lucy responds, "No, I don't drink." The firmness with which she says that line -- the way her eyes bore into into him as she delivers it -- always makes me think that she is stepping out of character for a second to criticize Desi for his own drinking. However, later in that scene when Desi is singing "That Means I Love You" to Lucy, the real-life love that L&D shared shines through.

Try comparing some eps of LDCH to "The Long, Long Trailer." I was just watching that movie the other night. It was filmed in the summer of 1953, when they had just had a baby earlier in the year and were at the height of their ILL fame. Desi said in his book of that time, "Two people couldn't be happier or more in love than we were." Watch some of the sweeter scenes of that film, and you can tell how true that statement was. And it wasn't just because L&D were playing newlyweds. They had something there that cannot be faked. Now, contrast this with a few eps of LDCH. You'll notice a difference. Even though they still loved each other throughout the filming of LDCH, there was so much tension there, and in many ways it came across on screen.

However, you may be right about one thing, this might have been the Culver City lot and Desi was probably at the Gower street main place, so he had to gallop quite a distance on the freeway, LOL!

Yea, he had been knocking a few back when he got the call and was so wasted that he hopped on a horse instead of jumping in his car. :D

Yea, he had been knocking a few back when he got the call and was so wasted that he hopped on a horse instead of jumping in his car. :D LOL! As for the comment on The Lucy Desi Comedy Hour not being as funny, simple, the biggest flaw is NO AUDIENCE! But they were mostly outdoor things so they had to do it that way.

LOL! As for the comment on The Lucy Desi Comedy Hour not being as funny, simple, the biggest flaw is NO AUDIENCE! But they were mostly outdoor things so they had to do it that way.
But that's the thing, I don't need an audience to help me find things funny on a show.

It just seemed different to me and obviously to R4ever as well.

I never said you did, i meant that Lucy herself admitted that she was BETTER in front of an audience, and the writers had to work harder at making sure there were laughs if an audience was there to react. When you know they'll sweeten things with a laugh machine, you no longer have to work so hard at getting sure fire laughs. Yes, they were the world's greatest comedy writers but even they admitted they were very tired by then. Also, Lucy always said that she preferred the weekly grind to a series of specials because she said the audience assumed you had had a whole year to come up with something really special and yet, that was not the case.