Has Sony released any statement regarding why they've been taking so long to release the next FOL set? It's going to be almost a year since Season 3.

No idea but I'm wonderin the same thing

Good question - what is Sony waiting for??

Good question - what is Sony waiting for??

More people to buy Playstation 3's so MegaGiant Sony doesn't go bankrupt?

Common, Sony! We want our FOL seasons 4 thru 9! How hard can that be for a mega-giant like Sony?

Sorry I ranted!

yea, i'm starting to think i will never get to complete any series i have been anticipating for except for gilmore girls... i mean, i have waited and waited for fol on dvd, and then we got seasons 1-3... and i KNOW they did well in sales! They were very good for sony to release... but why must they focus all of their manpower into the stupid playstation 3, which nobody is wanting or buying becuase everyone wants the ps2 stuff, like guitar heros and ddr.... it's just a waste of their manpower.... ugh! I would love to finish my sets of boy meets world, growing pains, leave it to beaver, everwood, diff'rent strokes, and many others which have been yanked from the shelves right before reaching the really good seasons!! :( Not fair!

It happens like that with some shows, Sarah. The "DVD release curse"

Hello, I am new to the board. I just found it this past weekend but I have been a huge FOL fan since it started in 1979. The show only go better as the years went on. The addition of Jo was great.

I came to this board looking for information on when season 4 of the FOL DVD would be released and I can see by this thread there is no word. :(

Come on Sony, give is some good news for the fall season. We want a FOL series set or at least season 4 to be released.

I'm really suprised about all of this but I said last spring it'll be out by Christmas and now I'm starting to question that.

I'm really suprised about all of this but I said last spring it'll be out by Christmas and now I'm starting to question that.

I'm sure it will be. After all, Sony usually releases a season a year, and we haven't seen one yet this year.

Unfortunately, Sony has given up on many tv shows on dvd. They have released one or two seasons and then they call it quits. They have shown this treatment to many classic series of which we have only seen one season (two, if we’re lucky) on dvd. Paramount has actually gotten a bit better. Regardless of music replacement issues, they are still releasing something. The horrible truth is that Sony simply waits too long to release the next set in a series if they release it at all. It is incomprehensible that one of the most groundbreaking series in TV history (All in the Family) is still not complete on dvd.

As far as Facts goes, it was a really good seller for Sony. They say the release of follow-up sets depends on sales from the previous sets. Then, the sales are high and they release nothing. It is beyond me who works for this department but they clearly don’t have a grasp on marketing or dvd sales. The wait between sets allows the public to forget what has been released and lose interest. It seems to be what has happened. It hurts future sales as well. It really is a shame.

To my understanding seasons 1 & 2 of FOL sold very well b/c of the cast appearing on several talk shows the week of the release. Season 3 probably didn't sell as well b/c there was pretty much no advertising for it. Sony then looks at as 'oh well season 3 didn't sell as well as the first 2'. It is very frustrating and every time I email them I always get the generic 'there is no published release date at this time'. Sony usually does 1 set a year for some shows (All in the Family, Married with Children) while others get released a bit more frequently (even these have slowed down to about 7-9 months, eg: Bewitched, I Dream of Jeannie). And then there's Maude (no pun) which sold very well and there is no news of season 2.

I hope that Sony releases season four by the end of the year. Though it is starting to look like that isn't going to happen. :(

I never saw any advertising at all when the first three seasons came out. I just saw them in the store one day and got uber-excited.

I really hope we get all the seasons. I think we might have hope b/c George Clonney was in 2 seasons and he is such a huge, oscar winning star that Sony could make a lot of money w/thoes seasons.

Right now, our only hope is that Sony makes an announcement next month. After that, we might not see Season 4 until next year. Hopefully, they are trying to release these close to the holidays to try to cash in on gift-giving ideas.

Right now, our only hope is that Sony makes an announcement next month. After that, we might not see Season 4 until next year. Hopefully, they are trying to release these close to the holidays to try to cash in on gift-giving ideas.


I hope so

oh, I am with you all. Of all of my "all time favorite shows", Facts is the only one that seems to be stuck in a rut and I'm not too happy since it's not like the show airs in syndication where I live. I believe the best seasons are yet to come so I'm still waiting for the rest of the series.

I've heard some conflicting acounts on the future of the FOL on DVD. I know a guy over at onther site who knows someone at Sony and he told me that Sony Entertainment doesn't plan to release any further season of the series because there isn't enough demand for it. However, Pav here at SO has hinted at further releases and he tends to know his stuff. I'm lucky in that I live in Chicago where the shows is aired. I've also taped many episodes. However, I would like to still have the entire series on DVD.

I've heard some conflicting acounts on the future of the FOL on DVD. I know a guy over at onther site who knows someone at Sony and he told me that Sony Entertainment doesn't plan to release any further season of the series because there isn't enough demand for it. However, Pav here at SO has hinted at further releases and he tends to know his stuff. I'm lucky in that I live in Chicago where the shows is aired. I've also taped many episodes. However, I would like to still have the entire series on DVD.

What?! Please, say it isn't so! I have been waiting almost a year for season four to be released!!! My favorite episode is Graduation!

pray tell, what show has "demand" in Sony's eyes? They have been ridiculously lazy and slow lately and treated anything that isn't Seinfeld and King Of Queens like ****. Now that Seinfeld and KOQ are wrapping this fall on DVD, I think Sony should get off it's ass and start back on FOL, 227, DS, ODAAT, Maude and everything else. Of course Facts doesn't sell like Seinfeld does, Seinfeld is their #1 show and is on syndication every day.

pray tell, what show has "demand" in Sony's eyes? They have been ridiculously lazy and slow lately and treated anything that isn't Seinfeld and King Of Queens like ****. Now that Seinfeld and KOQ are wrapping this fall on DVD, I think Sony should get off it's ass and start back on FOL, 227, DS, ODAAT, Maude and everything else. Of course Facts doesn't sell like Seinfeld does, Seinfeld is their #1 show and is on syndication every day.

:confused: Are they kidding me?!! FOL DVD sales were HUGE!!! My god, is Sony run by the exectives of N@N?

:confused: Are they kidding me?!! FOL DVD sales were HUGE!!! My god, is Sony run by the exectives of N@N?

:rotflmao: I totally agree with you the sales were great and there totally stupied :bonk: if they think otherwise.

I can't believe they would stop releasing sets for FOL at this point. They are almost done with I Dream Of Jeannie and, as someone else mentioned, they are completing Seinfeld and King Of Queens. They need some classic show that is a good-seller to be their next steady release project. Out of all the classic tv shows Sony has tried to release lately, Facts has been the best-selling. Besides, if Sony keeps adapting to their recent frame of mind regarding releases, they won't be releasing any dvds anymore. We've had announcements from Paramount, Warner and Universal. Sony is the only one who has been completely silent lately.

I'm also waiting for season 4

I've heard some conflicting acounts on the future of the FOL on DVD. I know a guy over at onther site who knows someone at Sony and he told me that Sony Entertainment doesn't plan to release any further season of the series because there isn't enough demand for it. However, Pav here at SO has hinted at further releases and he tends to know his stuff. I'm lucky in that I live in Chicago where the shows is aired. I've also taped many episodes. However, I would like to still have the entire series on DVD.


Hopefully Pav knows his stuff this time, its just wrong to start releasing a series than drop it after 3 seasons

I agree with you. They have been doing that with alot of shows. They put out the first few seasons and then don't release anymore. I mean maybe why they don't sell as well is because they are the earlier seasons and people like the later ones better. I hope they release Season 4. It will suck if they don't.

To get my FOL fix I've been watching 1-3.I've run out of episodes to watch.They really need to release season 4.

Oh yeah I want the Graduation eps then i love Brave New World as well, but I better wait for my season five hopes till we get a season 4 release

Season 4 would probably be their biggest seller out of all the seasons. It doesn't make much sense that they're not releasing it. What are they thinking?:confused:

What are they thinking?:confused:


Very good question I think we're all wondering that.

I should point out that I never said that Sony was not releasing the fourth season. I just heard from someone at another site who knows someone at Sony who told him that (Sony) would not be releasing any further seasons. However, Pav here at Sitcoms Online has hinted at further FOL releases and he tends to know what he is talking about. Right now, I'm pretty much in the dark like the rest of you. I really would love to see the fourth season come out on DVD, but a part of me is beginning to doubt that it will. I'm trying to keep faith though.

I just heard from someone at another site who knows someone at Sony who told him that (Sony) would not be releasing any further seasons.

How random is that? What "other site" are you talking about? If someone starts spreading rumors, then they should also be credited as a source.

I'm running out of episodes to watch Thank goodness for Youtube.

I really don't understand what has happened. I thought the first DVD sets sold so well... that's why they came so close together.

It makes absolutely no sense to me.

it's just sony's way of crapping on us once again! It seems that whenever i start getting into a tv show and start collecting the seasons (this goes for the more classic tv shows not the modern shows) they decide to stop producing them. Which is why i am waiting on a few other sets like lavern and shirley or family ties, i'm going to wait until at least 3 or 4 have been released then start collecting, i think i am bad luck or something....

But i too thought that the first couple of seasons sold extremely well, what happened to those good sales? I mean, this is one of the few dvd's i've ever seen so marketed! They did tons of commericials for both sets AND the girls appearing on the today show to recognize its release. We always get shafted, i think Sony is just too lazy to do it and too concerned with other things (ps3 and new shows)

Let's hope Sony doesn't wait FOUR YEARS between releases like they did for Seasons 1 & 2 of Barney Miller.

I'm very surprised too! It was one of their better-selling dvd sets along with I Dream Of Jeannie and Bewitched. It has been over a month (if not longer) since they announced a classic tv-on-dvd release. They shouldn't just stop dead in their tracks. Choose a couple of series and keep them going until they are complete. They don't seem to understand that's the way to keep their consumers happy. The buyers want complete sets.

:yeahthat I agree 100%.

It has been over a month (if not longer) since they announced a classic tv-on-dvd release.

actually, they just announced Barney Miller season 2... which bodes very well for FOL and other shows. If that show can go 4 years between seasons, just about anything can return for another season

Yeah, I saw that was posted on tvshowsondvd.com. It's too bad they waste so much time in between sets. By now, we should be halfway through the Edna's Edibles years.

Yeah, I saw that was posted on tvshowsondvd.com. It's too bad they waste so much time in between sets. By now, we should be halfway through the Edna's Edibles years.
Sony should follow a release pattern more like Paramount does. So many Paramount shows finished in a relatively quick time because they vowed to do a release every 4-5 months. They finished The Brady Bunch in little over a year and that was a five season show. If Sony released their shows in the same pattern, we'd be up to season 6 now, maybe getting ready for season 7.

Sony in general sucks with releasing shows, they started The Jeffersons and All In The Family in 2002 and we're only up to season 6 of each show (and keep in mind The Jeffersons was an 11 season show). However, I can manage if Sony will only release one FOL set a year (and trying to use "we released season 3 the same year as season 1/2" to get out of why nothing came in 2006), just as long as the releases keep coming because there are great episodes in every season, even the last season I wouldn't mind owning even tho I think the ninth season is generally weak.

I'm not so much concerned about when it will come out as much as if they'll come out. Do you think they'll release them eventually?

I think it will eventually. The demand is sure to be high for FOL.

I'm hoping this Barney Miller release (a show that everyone gave up hope for a long time ago), that Sony is now going to try and focus more on other shows in the vault that have been left behind now that Seinfeld and King Of Queens have both been completed. Hopefully in 2008, we'll see more FOL, Diff'rent Strokes, Maude, 227, One Day At A Time and others... we already know more Barney Miller is coming and I've heard Jeffersons season 7 is coming too (Wikipedia lists January 2).

well 2008 isnt that far away, just depends what time in 08

Please treat this as a rumour at this moment in time...but someone I chat with had been to a Sony convention in August in L.A. and they heard that the next season of FOL is in the works. Again, please treat this as a rumour at this time because nothing has been confirmed but I thought other fans like me would want even the slightest bit of news. Hopefully, this is a rumour that turns into fact. No pun intended. ;)

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! party: I'm excited!!! even though it is still rumor I'm still pumped.

Please treat this as a rumour at this moment in time...but someone I chat with had been to a Sony convention in August in L.A. and they heard that the next season of FOL is in the works. Again, please treat this as a rumour at this time because nothing has been confirmed but I thought other fans like me would want even the slightest bit of news. Hopefully, this is a rumour that turns into fact. No pun intended. ;)
well, I trust your word Robert, I cannot wait

Please treat this as a rumour at this moment in time...but someone I chat with had been to a Sony convention in August in L.A. and they heard that the next season of FOL is in the works. Again, please treat this as a rumour at this time because nothing has been confirmed but I thought other fans like me would want even the slightest bit of news. Hopefully, this is a rumour that turns into fact. No pun intended. ;)

This is great news. Sure, it may only be a rumor, but rumors often have a way of being true.

I hope the rumor is true too! I don't have on demand cable and FOL isn't on syndication anywhere in my area. I would love to see at least seasons 4 and 5 in 2008.

Oohhh, we can only hope! The completion of the Eastland years! :D

(setting-wise, I mean)

I mainly just want seasons 6-9, where the show was at its best point...I swear I've seen the Eastland episodes (though they are great, also,) fifty million times and N@N only showed select episodes so yeah...

that's funny becuase i find it completely the other way around. i think the eastland years through the edna's edibles years were when the show was at its highest... at least that's the times when real life people like you and me could relate to the girls better!! The later seasons were more for laughs and giggles, and i missed mrs. g!

I prefer Edna's Edibles and Over Our Heads best too. Eastland seasons were good as well, but you can't deny the show got a little too headfirst into the "very special episodes" for a point around then. Hell, the first disc of Season 3 is nothing but VSE's.

While I loved Mrs. G and missed her when she left, I also happen to love Cloris and liked what she brought to the table as Beverly Ann. No, she wasn't a replacement for Mrs. G, but she was a good character in her own right, she just had to fill shoes from a character who had been established since 1978. You can't compare them, totally different characters. Bev was more of a "much older sister" to the girls while Garrett was more of a mother.

I wish season 4 would hurry up and come out so we can get season 5, which IMO is probably the show at it's best

So there's no word on Season 4?

So there's no word on Season 4?


I think we are going to see it some time this year, Meghan. I just have the feeling. :)

I prefer Edna's Edibles and Over Our Heads best too. Eastland seasons were good as well, but you can't deny the show got a little too headfirst into the "very special episodes" for a point around then. Hell, the first disc of Season 3 is nothing but VSE's.

While I loved Mrs. G and missed her when she left, I also happen to love Cloris and liked what she brought to the table as Beverly Ann. No, she wasn't a replacement for Mrs. G, but she was a good character in her own right, she just had to fill shoes from a character who had been established since 1978. You can't compare them, totally different characters. Bev was more of a "much older sister" to the girls while Garrett was more of a mother.

I wish season 4 would hurry up and come out so we can get season 5, which IMO is probably the show at it's best


It is nice to see someone else who likes Beverly Ann. Season eight is one of the show's best and she is a big part of the reason.

It is nice to see someone else who likes Beverly Ann. Season eight is one of the show's best and she is a big part of the reason.
I think a lot of people think liking Beverly Ann is a slap in the face to Charlotte, and I don't buy it. They are totally different actresses, Charlotte chose to leave the show and she gave Cloris her blessing. They're good in their own ways, why must people be so harsh on Bev because of who she's not instead of who she is? Cloris is a wonderful actress, anyone who doesn't believe me because of Bev should check out MTM sometime

I think we are going to see it some time this year, Meghan. I just have the feeling. :)


I think I feel it too Mike *fingers crossed!* :)

i like the beverlyann episodes as well.i wish they would start releasing more seasons of this show.its been over a year since they released season 3 and they claimed the sales were great so what is the holdup?

I really hope they release some information on season four soon. I can't wait to see Take My Finals, Please. It's probably my favorite episode :)

what I hate is that season 3 is one of the worst seasons of the show IMO (I am more of an Edna's Edibles and OOH fan, but even for the Eastland seasons, I vastly prefer seasons 2 and 4), would be a shame if that's the last season made commercially available.

I still share Mike's good feeling about 2008 and FOL. its the year I graduate high school so I'm feelin lucky

It is nice to see someone else who likes Beverly Ann. Season eight is one of the show's best and she is a big part of the reason.


oh I love Beverly Ann! (And i loved Mrs G!) What's great is that BA is mentioned as early as Diff'rent Strokes! She was not just a last minute creation, some sibling out of nowhere (a lot of shows fail in that regard to continuity). Cloris had a style and sass of her own. if anyone deserved a spinoff--it was her! I always thought it would have been great if she and Andy had their own show called "Beverly Ann and Andy" (yes, the connection is intentional to Raggedy Ann and Andy ). :lol:

^ I always hated that Beverly Ann and Andy weren't even mentioned in the reunion movie, yet George was mentioned (yea, I know Clooney is a big star now, but I think Andy was more important on the show than him) and Raymond (who was only in three episodes) was there.

I'm sure Cloris and MacKenzie would have gladly made cameos if they had been asked. Do you think they were hoping that a second reunion movie was going to be made in order to include more Facts alumni?

i REALLY hope they release season 4 on dvd. that would be peeeerfect!
and hopefully they can speed along the other seasons. lol. one can only hope, ey?

well, this is Sony we're talking about, your grandkids' grandkids will be in college by the time season 9 rolls around :rofl:

well, this is Sony we're talking about, your grandkids' grandkids will be in college by the time season 9 rolls around :rofl:

:lol:! I really hope its out soon though. I know their on YouTube but still its not the same. :(

Okay, I just took a look at Sony's release schedule... it feels like they are re-releasing a lot of movies, not new stuff that hasn't been out before. Do people actually buy these releases??? I didn't see anything on there that seemed even remotely familiar to me, except maybe Stuart Little and hasn't that been out already. :confused:

Sony sucks badly in their tv department. I know unofficial releases are illegal, but companies like them and Warner are forcing the fans to buy unofficial sets

So no word on FOL???

:lol:! I really hope its out soon though. I know their on YouTube but still its not the same. :(

ditto! youtube & vhs are just not cutting it for me anymore. i think i have a good majority of the whole show on vhs from back in the day when they did a tvland two day marathon non-stop. lol. but it's so much easier (and better quality!) when it's on dvd.

The rumor was that it was scheduled for a April/May release but that hasn't panned out since word is that there are no releases for TV-on-DVD from Sony on those months. I agree with Dean. It really is forcing people to buy bootlegs which are readily available. But I wish I could have the dvd-quality and accessibility of an official release.

ditto! youtube & vhs are just not cutting it for me anymore. i think i have a good majority of the whole show on vhs from back in the day when they did a tvland two day marathon non-stop. lol. but it's so much easier (and better quality!) when it's on dvd.

I know I have old VHS from N@N and Hallmark and I;ve watched it so much that the tracking is shot, it almost makes me sick to watch

Sony is pleased with Fact of Life DVD sales so no reason to see Season 4 will be released soon maybe in the next few months or so

Hopefully we will get an announcement sometime soon. I've heard Bewitched season 6 is set for May, although I've gotten nothing from TVshowsonDVD.com stating that.

I was hoping we would be waiting for Season 5 or 6 at this point. Jeez, couldn't they, at the very least, let us know one way or another. There really is no point in holding onto the release info. If anything, it's only hurting sales by keeping it so hush-hush. Let people know so they know it's out there...or at least, on its way. :confused:

I'm in with pretty much everyone here in screaming for a season 4 release...here I was, about to go and get seasons 1-3, and now they might not get around to the rest of the show in my lifetime? Puh-leeze.

If they don't wanna mess with these shows, they should sell rights to FOL and some of their other classic tv series to other companies that at least TRY to release stuff at a good clip.

I grew up watching this show (I made my debut in the world the day after George Clooney made his 'Facts' debut) and, even in high school watching re-runs, I thought that I'd always have it around. Now, it's not syndicated in my area and I'm dealing with watching it on YouTube and wishing that I owned the whole series. Anyone thought of starting a huge petition/fax/phone call/letter and e-mail campaign to get Sony to buckle down or sell out?

Lela

I'm in with pretty much everyone here in screaming for a season 4 release...here I was, about to go and get seasons 1-3, and now they might not get around to the rest of the show in my lifetime? Puh-leeze.

It's pretty much a guarantee that this is one of their most-successful classic shows. Everyone wants it. They're losing out on a successful run on dvd.

I wish we had a release date already!

what I hate is that season 3 is one of the worst seasons of the show IMO (I am more of an Edna's Edibles and OOH fan, but even for the Eastland seasons, I vastly prefer seasons 2 and 4), would be a shame if that's the last season made commercially available.
I agree about season 3 being one of the worst FOL seasons. There are some good ones (Growing Pains, Runaway and New York, New York, which kind of go together), but overall the season is weak. It would be horrible if this is where FOL stops in terms of DVD releases. I am more of an Edna's Edibles fan myself, but season 4 is my favorite "Eastland Years" season with a lot of great episodes so if they don't release this or further seasons, it's going to suck :( .

im choosing to stay optimistic about this. I know they will release the rest of the seasons at some point. The question is when?

I'm going to reprise my great mature moment from a previous post:

I HATE SONY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:crybaby: :wallbang

I'll go back to being mature now, LOL

I know how you feel. I've been wanting Season 4 for a long time now. I'm way past that now. Not only do I want Season 4 but 5 & 6 at the same time. They really ruined a sure thing for themselves by not continuing this show on dvd. I understand cutting back on the releases but cutting out one of the better selling shows is just plain ignorance on their part. I've had my say. :tiphat:

We should already have season 7 at this point and be awating season 8. That's how bad Sony has been.....if they were following a regular release schedule!

[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]I know how you feel. I've been wanting Season 4 for a long time now. I'm way past that now. Not only do I want Season 4 but 5 & 6 at the same time.
I do too. I think that if FOL should ever make its way onto the DVD market again, the least Sony should do is release those three seasons together to make up for lost time and for making the fans wait so long. I will be happy with anything FOL on DVD at this point, but part of me will be a little disappointed if all we get is season 4 and then we have to wait all over again for the rest of the series to be released.

here is my take on this whole thing....and better get a sanwich, or something, because i do tend to be very long-winded.

okay....first of all, when i found out this show was coming to DVD i was really excited. pretty soon i started hitting every video shop and anyplace that sold DVD's! finally, i got my hands on the season 1 & 2 DVD set. i was a happy man. then as soon as season 3 came out i was a happy man again. around that time sony was saying how they had seasons 4, 5, 6 and 7 in the works as well as seasons 8 and 9 AND the three movies. they said they were planning a full on DVD boxed set! so, i waited....and waited.....and waited......then waited some more. then sony came out with the full boxed set of "seinfeld"!!! one of the sh_ttiest sitcoms ever to be put on TV and it was already being shown on TV in reruns...this steaming pile of CRAP gets the full DVD treatment!!!....meanwhile, i was still waiting for the rest of "facts of life" to come out. then i keep hearing about newer seasons of "desperate housewives", "grey's anatomy", "lost", "the simpsons" and "the family guy"...but no "facts of life"!! a year passes...still no "facts of life"! so, i finally try and contact them and ask them what the hold-up is...no response. then a friend of mine who knows someone at sony tells me that they were working on putting out the rest of "facts of life" and were planning on having it all out by late-2007!! so, again, i waited and waited....meanwhile, i discovered that youtube had full episodes of "facts of life" AND the three "FOL" movies!!!! i was so thrilled i saved them onto my youtube playlist and watched them anytime i wanted to! by then i was beginning to lose hope with the DVD's! then one day i go to watch an episode (i felt like watching the one where the girls visit an old drive-in) and...to my horror, i discovered that all of the episodes had been taken off!!! so, i contacted the youtube users i had suscribed to and asked them what the deal was. turns out sony and viacom had the episodes removed because of copyright infringements!! ARGH!!!!! what made me mad is, to this day, youtube has full episodes of "frasier" and "seinfeld"....how about removing those stupid pieces of crap, huh?!?!?! what made it even worse was that i had just installed the realplayer and was now able to download online videos so i could watch them at my leisure and would no longer have to worry about videos being removed. so, once again, i lobbied for the DVDs to be released....and, once again, i got left on the line! i finally contacted sony again asking them about the rest of the seasons of "facts of life" and they got back to me saying, "we don't have that title at the moment, but please take the time to browse these items..." and they were a bunch of stupid STUPID video games!!! then i heard from TV-on-DVD that sony was planning on releasing all of its stalled shows...so, naturally, i took this to mean that the rest of "facts" was being released! then i heard from someone who works at sony that ultimately, sony has decided to pull the plug on "facts of life", even after they had promised PROMISED that they were putting out a full set, including the three movies! but the reason was because unlike sales of the newer CRAPPY shows, sales of "facts" were not that great and there hasn't been alot of demand for them! ARGH!!!! on the upside, youtube started putting episodes back up....then i found out about joost.com, where there are full uncut episodes of "facts" from all the seasons. but so far they only have, i believe, 100-something episodes. i'm hoping they continue to release more episodes. the quality is perfect. unfortunately, i am unable to contact them because they're only using their email for technical support. i tried writing some comments to them, but none of them are being posted.

so, yeah, it does seem as though shows such as "seinfeld", "king of queens", "friends", "frasier", "will & grace", "2 and a half men" and all these stupid sex-crazed superficial saturated programs are being shoved down our throats all the time, while quality shows like "facts of life", "diff'rent strokes", "one day at a time", "family ties", "growing pains" and "the hogan family" are being horribly neglected. i mean.....haven't we seen enough of jennifer aniston's long, ugly face, or heard enough of kelsey grammer's baretone voice, or seen enough of that ugly, winey, mornic, obnoxious, pathetic SACK-OF-SH_T cast of "seinfeld" on TV in reruns as it is?!?!?!?!

Guys, I guess after all we are going to have to accept the fact that Sony will never be releasing any more classic shows, including Facts. :( Surely we can request Sony to sell the rights to another company so they can and will release it. Personally, I think that's got to be our next step. I'm bummed. I'm going back to bed. :(

Here's hoping someone like MPI, Shout! or Arts Alliance obtain the rights to Facts, Diff'rent Strokes, etc. If MPI had it, all of FOL would have already been released!!

Here's hoping someone like MPI, Shout! or Arts Alliance obtain the rights to Facts, Diff'rent Strokes, etc. If MPI had it, all of FOL would have already been released!!
You are so right!

IMO, I think Warner Bros. should obtain the rights to FOL, DS, etc. The reason I say this is because of how good they were at releasing Full House DVD's; within just a few years the whole series was finished and it was an eight-season show (btw, it's also the only show I have all the episodes of). I think if Warner Bros. were to obtain the rights of these shows, in a few years (maybe even less) all of the seasons of DS and FOL would be out :) .

Sony would never allow another major studio to license out its product. Our only hope is for a small company like MPI or Shout! to get the series. Especially, MPI--who has a great history of releasing the entire series of relatively forgotten product such as The Doris Day Show and Family Affair, not to mention the old soap opera Dark Shadows, which has 1000s of episodes!!

What does MPI stand for? I never heard of it before.

MPI Home Video, one of the oldest existing companies dealing in home video.

iam still looking also

With Cloris Leachman appearing on Dancing With The Stars, it's a shame more headway hasn't been made for the show on dvd. If we were into the Beverly Ann years, there could be some great promotion for the show.

Sadly, as we all know, any show that isn't "Seinfeld", "Sex and the City", "Friends", "Frasier", "2 and a Half Men", "The Hills", "NCIS", "Gossip Girl",
"7th Heaven", "King of Queens" and "The Family Guy".....eh, I won't even go there!! There's no use!!

its sad. i'm at the point where i dont know what to do about this situation. and i agree it would be a GREAT promotion for Dancing W/the Stars. Sony is just plain pathetic.

I just can't understand how Warner put out "Full House" in its entirety and Sony can't see fit to release "The Facts Of Life". I mean, there is such potential here for this show on dvd. Once it's out, they could do a complete series set in a special yearbook packaging or something. They could even do that on a smaller scale for Season 4 since Jo and Blair graduate at the end of the season. I just really think they are losing a major opportunity here.

I totally agree!

Once it's out, they could do a complete series set in a special yearbook packaging or something.
That would be really cool to see but with the way Sony works we'll probably all be dead and buried before they come out with such a thing :mad: .
I'm not even mad anymore about Sony not releasing anymore FOL. Now I'm just sad. How could they not continue to release a show like this? :(

I dont have a clue. i wish there was an actual phone number or email that would put us through to an actual person rather than a direct reply. i can't understand sony.

there all a bunch of neanderthals (as blair would say)...simple as that! :D

That would be really cool to see but with the way Sony works we'll probably all be dead and buried before they come out with such a thing :mad: .
I'm not even mad anymore about Sony not releasing anymore FOL. Now I'm just sad. How could they not continue to release a show like this? :(

Bad enough BET isn't renewing "Diff'rent Strokes", Lifetime was this close to actually considering putting "Facts of Life" on their schedule for Fall....but due to a lack of interest (and thanks to stupid Sony) they're nixing that idea and deciding to keep on "Frasier" and "Will & Grace"!! I am sad too, because Sony treats these stupid pile-of-crap shows like "Seinfeld", "2 and a Half Men" and "Family Guy" like gold platinum while treating quality classic shows like "Facts of Life" and "Diff'rent Strokes" like garbage!! It should be the other way around.

Lifetime was this close to actually considering putting "Facts of Life" on their schedule for Fall....but due to a lack of interest (and thanks to stupid Sony) they're nixing that idea and deciding to keep on "Frasier" and "Will & Grace"!!
Really? Jeez, can you say overkill? Those shows have been repeated to death. Something new would be nice. I had a conversation with friends at dinner the other night about tv and everyone said how they never turn their tv on anymore because it's always the same shows. When I mentioned Facts, I got several "Oh, I haven't seen that in years. Why isn't that on?"

Does anyone even know when Sony last announced a classic tv-on-dvd release? Because I took a look at their website a few weeks ago and went to the tv on DVD section and their new releases list consists of classic show box-sets that came out months ago, like season 2 of Barney Miller. They even still have DS: The Complete Second Season and seasons 1-3 of FOL on there and those came out nearly 2-3 years ago. Sony seriously needs to get its act together.

Know what really gets my goat?!
The fact that stupid "Gossip Girl" and "The Hills", two new shows that are on TV at the present moment that anyone can easily record and two shows where teenage girls and young women are highly sexualized and basically turned into catty, airhead Barbie dolls, are being released on DVD, while a show like "Facts", where girls are depicted as strong and independent and as REAL PEOPLE can't catch a break!
While I agree that "Seinfeld"(actually, to me, "CRAPfeld") and "Frasier"("CRAPsier"), "2 and a Half Men" ("2 and a Half CRAP") and "Friends"("CRAPs") get too much exposure as it is, it seems now Sony is focusing squarely on "Gossip Girl", "The Hils" AND "One Tree Hill"!
As for Lifetime....they used to be a great station and in all honesty the only really great show they have on there is "Golden Girls".
Then they bring on total 100% CRAP like "Frasier" and "Will & Grace"...what the heck these pathetic shows are doing on a women's network is beyond me!
I even talk to my friends about the lack of love for "Facts of Life", even some of my guy friends, and they all agree with me about "Facts of Life" and how it needs to be seen again.
I guess, as someone pointed out around here, the only way an all-female casted program can get any sorta respect is if the females are all stick-thin, sex-crazed, airheaded, man-hungry, impossibly attractive, extremely spoiled and catty beyond belief!
If I had a daguther/daughters, mark my words, I would much rather have them watch any episode of "The Facts of Life" rather than any episode of "Gossip Girl", or "The Hills"!

Know what really gets my goat?!
The fact that stupid "Gossip Girl" and "The Hills", two new shows that are on TV at the present moment that anyone can easily record and two shows where teenage girls and young women are highly sexualized and basically turned into catty, airhead Barbie dolls, are being released on DVD, while a show like "Facts", where girls are depicted as strong and independent and as REAL PEOPLE can't catch a break!
While I agree that "Seinfeld"(actually, to me, "CRAPfeld") and "Frasier"("CRAPsier"), "2 and a Half Men" ("2 and a Half CRAP") and "Friends"("CRAPs") get too much exposure as it is, it seems now Sony is focusing squarely on "Gossip Girl", "The Hils" AND "One Tree Hill"!
As for Lifetime....they used to be a great station and in all honesty the only really great show they have on there is "Golden Girls".
Then they bring on total 100% CRAP like "Frasier" and "Will & Grace"...what the heck these pathetic shows are doing on a women's network is beyond me!
I even talk to my friends about the lack of love for "Facts of Life", even some of my guy friends, and they all agree with me about "Facts of Life" and how it needs to be seen again.
I guess, as someone pointed out around here, the only way an all-female casted program can get any sorta respect is if the females are all stick-thin, sex-crazed, airheaded, man-hungry, impossibly attractive, extremely spoiled and catty beyond belief!
If I had a daguther/daughters, mark my words, I would much rather have them watch any episode of "The Facts of Life" rather than any episode of "Gossip Girl", or "The Hills"!
"one tree hill" is put out by warner bros not sony! i know cause ive got all the seasons!

i agree about everything else you said though!

:D Sorry about that!

Bad enough BET isn't renewing "Diff'rent Strokes", Lifetime was this close to actually considering putting "Facts of Life" on their schedule for Fall....but due to a lack of interest (and thanks to stupid Sony) they're nixing that idea and deciding to keep on "Frasier" and "Will & Grace"!!
I'm sad too about BET not renewing DS but at least while it was on that channel, they treated it well. Although the editing and the odd commercial breaks sucked, they put in on 2 hours a day (and sometimes Saturday night), had numerous DS marathons, got at least two full-cycle runs, let us see the full ending credits instead of the ad to some show and to top it all off, today they're giving it a farewell marathon. I mean really, what station does that when they're about to take off a show? So while this sucks, at least DS got a great run, something I haven't seen in awhile.
So when was Lifetime considering putting FOL on their network? I never heard of that before. And what do you mean by lack of interest? Was there a poll going around on the internet asking people if putting FOL on for the fall was okay (cause if there were and I'd known sooner I would've voted 100 times) or did the powers-that-be at Lifetime nix the idea? Because I highly doubt that FOL is a "lack of interest". If anything, the shows you mentioned are.
Oh and btw Maddison, Gossip Girl is also put out by Warner Bros. I know because that's the label on my DVD.

Bad enough BET isn't renewing "Diff'rent Strokes", Lifetime was this close to actually considering putting "Facts of Life" on their schedule for Fall....but due to a lack of interest (and thanks to stupid Sony) they're nixing that idea and deciding to keep on "Frasier" and "Will & Grace"!!

Just curious... I'd like to know your source on this.

^ Same.

:D Sorry about that!
its no problem, i just thought id let you know!

^ Same.
diddo! :)

I heard from my sister that she saw on the Lifetime website that they were going to add "FOL" to their fall schedule, but the idea was nixed, I think she said either by Sony, or Lifetime. I had a hard time understanding the exact details, but she said something like the ratings for Lifetime have been great, so they aren't taking any chances with the current schedule.

Know what really gets my goat?!
The fact that stupid "Gossip Girl" and "The Hills", two new shows that are on TV at the present moment that anyone can easily record and two shows where teenage girls and young women are highly sexualized and basically turned into catty, airhead Barbie dolls, are being released on DVD, while a show like "Facts", where girls are depicted as strong and independent and as REAL PEOPLE can't catch a break!
While I agree that "Seinfeld"(actually, to me, "CRAPfeld") and "Frasier"("CRAPsier"), "2 and a Half Men" ("2 and a Half CRAP") and "Friends"("CRAPs") get too much exposure as it is, it seems now Sony is focusing squarely on "Gossip Girl", "The Hils" AND "One Tree Hill"!
As for Lifetime....they used to be a great station and in all honesty the only really great show they have on there is "Golden Girls".
Then they bring on total 100% CRAP like "Frasier" and "Will & Grace"...what the heck these pathetic shows are doing on a women's network is beyond me!
I even talk to my friends about the lack of love for "Facts of Life", even some of my guy friends, and they all agree with me about "Facts of Life" and how it needs to be seen again.
I guess, as someone pointed out around here, the only way an all-female casted program can get any sorta respect is if the females are all stick-thin, sex-crazed, airheaded, man-hungry, impossibly attractive, extremely spoiled and catty beyond belief!
If I had a daguther/daughters, mark my words, I would much rather have them watch any episode of "The Facts of Life" rather than any episode of "Gossip Girl", or "The Hills"!

This is the weirdest post I've read in years.

Know what really gets my goat?!
The fact that stupid "Gossip Girl" and "The Hills", two new shows that are on TV at the present moment that anyone can easily record and two shows where teenage girls and young women are highly sexualized and basically turned into catty, airhead Barbie dolls, are being released on DVD, while a show like "Facts", where girls are depicted as strong and independent and as REAL PEOPLE can't catch a break!
While I agree that "Seinfeld"(actually, to me, "CRAPfeld") and "Frasier"("CRAPsier"), "2 and a Half Men" ("2 and a Half CRAP") and "Friends"("CRAPs") get too much exposure as it is, it seems now Sony is focusing squarely on "Gossip Girl", "The Hils" AND "One Tree Hill"!
As for Lifetime....they used to be a great station and in all honesty the only really great show they have on there is "Golden Girls".
Then they bring on total 100% CRAP like "Frasier" and "Will & Grace"...what the heck these pathetic shows are doing on a women's network is beyond me!
I even talk to my friends about the lack of love for "Facts of Life", even some of my guy friends, and they all agree with me about "Facts of Life" and how it needs to be seen again.
I guess, as someone pointed out around here, the only way an all-female casted program can get any sorta respect is if the females are all stick-thin, sex-crazed, airheaded, man-hungry, impossibly attractive, extremely spoiled and catty beyond belief!
If I had a daguther/daughters, mark my words, I would much rather have them watch any episode of "The Facts of Life" rather than any episode of "Gossip Girl", or "The Hills"!

that's pretty hardcore...but true, all true

I heard from my sister that she saw on the Lifetime website that they were going to add "FOL" to their fall schedule, but the idea was nixed, I think she said either by Sony, or Lifetime. I had a hard time understanding the exact details, but she said something like the ratings for Lifetime have been great, so they aren't taking any chances with the current schedule.

Was this recent? A few years back this was discussed, but it never came to be.

Frasier is a great show. the cast is hilarious and i love Will and Grace as well. I would LOVELOVELOVE it if they would put Facts on Lifetime though and take off stupid shows like Reba and Still Standing.

Frasier is a great show. the cast is hilarious and i love Will and Grace as well. I would LOVELOVELOVE it if they would put Facts on Lifetime though and take off stupid shows like Reba and Still Standing.
thats funny cause we usually agree about stuff...i hate "frasier" and "will and grace"...but i love "reba" and "still standing"! i agree with the FOL part though! :lol: ;)

That is funny. I guess i shouldnt judge those shows though because i never really watched them. maybe i should start. one things for sure though, we agree on all things Facts and thats whats most important.:)

That is funny. I guess i shouldnt judge those shows though because i never really watched them. maybe i should start. one things for sure though, we agree on all things Facts and thats whats most important.:)
hey, you can judge them all you want...youre entitled to your own opinion...i just thought it was funny! :D and you should like "still standing" cause jamie gerts (boots st. claire) is one of the main characters! ;)

NO WAY! I totally didnt know that! i will SO be watching! SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP IM SO EXCITED!

yeah, shes the mom on the show...which is the reason i watched it the first time, but its actually pretty funny!

i never would have known that! im gonna watch. that'll prolly b one of my new faves. im so excited

i never would have known that! im gonna watch. that'll prolly b one of my new faves. im so excited
welp, im glad i broadened your horizons! ;) :lol:

lol u definitely did:lol:

:D

Know what really gets my goat?!
The fact that stupid "Gossip Girl" and "The Hills", two new shows that are on TV at the present moment that anyone can easily record and two shows where teenage girls and young women are highly sexualized and basically turned into catty, airhead Barbie dolls, are being released on DVD, while a show like "Facts", where girls are depicted as strong and independent and as REAL PEOPLE can't catch a break!
While I agree that "Seinfeld"(actually, to me, "CRAPfeld") and "Frasier"("CRAPsier"), "2 and a Half Men" ("2 and a Half CRAP") and "Friends"("CRAPs") get too much exposure as it is, it seems now Sony is focusing squarely on "Gossip Girl", "The Hils" AND "One Tree Hill"!
As for Lifetime....they used to be a great station and in all honesty the only really great show they have on there is "Golden Girls".
Then they bring on total 100% CRAP like "Frasier" and "Will & Grace"...what the heck these pathetic shows are doing on a women's network is beyond me!
I even talk to my friends about the lack of love for "Facts of Life", even some of my guy friends, and they all agree with me about "Facts of Life" and how it needs to be seen again.
I guess, as someone pointed out around here, the only way an all-female casted program can get any sorta respect is if the females are all stick-thin, sex-crazed, airheaded, man-hungry, impossibly attractive, extremely spoiled and catty beyond belief!
If I had a daguther/daughters, mark my words, I would much rather have them watch any episode of "The Facts of Life" rather than any episode of "Gossip Girl", or "The Hills"!
I agree with you. I have seen some episodes of Fraiser and it is funny, but the only show I really like on Lifetime too is The Golden Girls. I like Friends alot, but it does get alot of exposure and is played alot. I think they should bring FOL back to TV if they aren't going to put the rest of the seasons out for a while.

I agree with you. I have seen some episodes of Fraiser and it is funny, but the only show I really like on Lifetime too is The Golden Girls. I like Friends alot, but it does get alot of exposure and is played alot. I think they should bring FOL back to TV if they aren't going to put the rest of the seasons out for a while.

I totally agree

me 2 me 2!

I just cant believe thers no word on Season 4!!!

I know! im sick of it. Sony needs to quit screwing up their business and release it already.

I know! im sick of it. Sony needs to quit screwing up their business and release it already.
see...heres where we always agree! ;)

i know! i totally agree.lol

i know! i totally agree.lol
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