View Full Version : False Information about Good Times that keeps being mentioned without a SOURCE
TVFactFan 07-20-2007, 11:30 AM one was old and not mentioned much anymore about Bill Cosby not liking Good Times. No source was ever provided and I never believed because it just came out of no where.
Most recent is-"Esther Rolle not liking the Carl character" When the hell did she say this? What year? on what show? in what Magazine or book? Why do some people keeping posting this false information like it's a FACT?? And if i is a fact then can someone please let us know when it was said and stop posting stuff from JokeiPedia.com
Ireneparalegal 07-20-2007, 02:38 PM I know I read only here on S.O. where posters mentioned the Bill Cosby rumor. But yeah, it would be nice to have sources for those sort of things.
mstewart 07-21-2007, 11:00 PM one was old and not mentioned much anymore about Bill Cosby not liking Good Times. No source was ever provided and I never believed because it just came out of no where.
Most recent is-"Esther Rolle not liking the Carl character" When the hell did she say this? What year? on what show? in what Magazine or book? Why do some people keeping posting this false information like it's a FACT?? And if i is a fact then can someone please let us know when it was said and stop posting stuff from JokeiPedia.com
Here's the link, hopefully it will help, to explain why Esther did not like the character of Carl. I believe it was not the actor but the character and his traits that Florida would not normally go for and it was too quick after James' passing to start a serious relationship.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Times#Backstage_tension
GARFIELDKOOL 07-21-2007, 11:09 PM Obviously, he didn't like the show. Bill was big during that era, and was one of few blacks back then were hot. If he liked the showed, I am sure he was have guest-starred on there.
Ireneparalegal 07-21-2007, 11:15 PM Here's the link, hopefully it will help, to explain why Esther did not like the character of Carl. I believe it was not the actor but the character and his traits that Florida would not normally go for and it was too quick after James' passing to start a serious relationship.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Times#Backstage_tension
Hi mstewart. Solomon won't accept info from Wikipedia. I don't rely on that source myself only because anyone can add/edit the information on that site. There has been too many instances of false information such as deaths of celebs, wrong articles, false articles, etc.
GARFIELDKOOL 07-21-2007, 11:19 PM Hi mstewart. Solomon won't accept info from Wikipedia. I don't rely on that source myself only because anyone can add/edit the information on that site. There has been too many instances of false information such as deaths of celebs, wrong articles, false articles, etc.
That is true Irene, but Solomon is not the the primary source on entertainment. Until he owns a source site, this will be the news. It is not what Solomon says, it is what wikipedia says.
I have found some stuff unreliable and reliable from that site. So reguardless of what Solomon says. It is still news.
Ireneparalegal 07-21-2007, 11:25 PM That is true Irene, but Solomon is not the the primary source on entertainment. Until he owns a source site, this will be the news. It is not what Solomon says, it is what wikipedia says.
I have found some stuff unreliable and reliable form that site. So reguardless of what Solomon says. It is still news.
I understand, I am just letting mstewart know what Solomon views as a source and what he doesn't. It doesn't matter to me what you or I find as a reliable source, I just didn't want mstewart to try showing him something he won't look at. It would be a waste. I have searched throughout the net for some other reliable sources but, I haven't yet come up with anything.
GARFIELDKOOL 07-21-2007, 11:33 PM I understand, I am just letting mstewart know what Solomon views as a source and what he doesn't. It doesn't matter to me what you or I find as a reliable source, I just didn't want mstewart to try showing him something he won't look at. It would be a waste. I have searched throughout the net for some other reliable sources but, I haven't yet come up with anything.
Solomon needs to realize he not the mainstream source. There are stuff others know that he never knew, so he needs to stop trying to intimidate other posters because he doesn't think they don't "know" as much as he does.
Ireneparalegal 07-21-2007, 11:39 PM Here's the link, hopefully it will help, to explain why Esther did not like the character of Carl. I believe it was not the actor but the character and his traits that Florida would not normally go for and it was too quick after James' passing to start a serious relationship.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Times#Backstage_tension
To me that makes perfect sense in that WE THE VIEWERS have posted on here how we don't like how they paired Florida so quickly after James' death and we didn't care for Carl's loudmouth ways, his being an atheist, etc. Those are NOT qualities that the character (Flo) would have wanted or appreciated in a husband. Florida had a deep faith in God and she wouldn't be with a man who didn't believe in God.
Remember how upset she was when Michael, for a while, stopped believing in God? It didn't matter to her what Carl thought or believed, because he was just Michael's boss at that point in the show.
The writers goofed up big time...AGAIN!!!!!!:rolleyes:
TVFactFan 07-22-2007, 12:07 AM Here's the link, hopefully it will help, to explain why Esther did not like the character of Carl. I believe it was not the actor but the character and his traits that Florida would not normally go for and it was too quick after James' passing to start a serious relationship.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Times#Backstage_tension
Websites are not sources
Either Book, Magazine, or Newspaper.
TVFactFan 07-22-2007, 08:06 PM That is true Irene, but Solomon is not the the primary source on entertainment. Until he owns a source site, this will be the news. It is not what Solomon says, it is what wikipedia says.
I have found some stuff unreliable and reliable from that site. So reguardless of what Solomon says. It is still news.
Source Site, Thanks for that wonderful idea Mike, now the site will be under construction.
Brieannas21 07-22-2007, 09:56 PM Websites are not sources
Either Book, Magazine, or Newspaper.
Until the website backs up your theory lol
I highly doubt that Bill Cosby had any beef with GTs. He worked with Jimmie, John and Ja'net on his movies.
USATVFAN 07-24-2007, 11:54 AM There is a Bill Cosby Book That Was Witten By A Different Author And The Book Said He Didn't Like Good times,Sanford And son,The Jeffersons And Many Other Black Shows
TVFactFan 07-24-2007, 06:07 PM Until the website backs up your theory lol
I highly doubt that Bill Cosby had any beef with GTs. He worked with Jimmie, John and Ja'net on his movies.
I never depend on websites to back up my argument, only newsapers/magazines or books like i did when arguing Good Times was not a spinoff
Ireneparalegal 07-24-2007, 08:38 PM Stop making up sH*T or I will report you to the administrator so u can be BANNED from this board
Solomon chill. :crazy:
Books can be wrong too, there are errors in books and magazines all the time. They can misquote someone or pretend to quote someone. Especially if the person is dead, how can you prove whether that person actually said what is quoted?
USATVFAN 07-24-2007, 08:38 PM Stop making up sH*T or I will report you to the administrator so u can be BANNED from this board
I am not making it up.
u are on my ignore list for the 4th or 5th time now.
TVFactFan 07-24-2007, 08:43 PM Solomon chill. :crazy:
Books can be wrong too, there are errors in books and magazines all the time. They can misquote someone or pretend to quote someone. Especially if the person is dead, how can you prove whether that person actually said what is quoted?
Irene it's against the rules to post false information and me and you both know there is no such book-lol Someone Was banned in the past for posting false information and I don't want to see someone talkiing about a BOOK with no title or the name of the author. If you can provide the Title or Author then it sounds MADE UP.
USATVFAN 07-24-2007, 08:54 PM Bill Cosby-By Soloman J.Herbert
The Cosby Show Racism Audieces,Myths Of The American Dream-By Sut Jhally And Justin Lewis
Ireneparalegal 07-24-2007, 08:56 PM I don't know abt that book. I don't know if such a book exists. But being mistaken and providing misleading/false information are two different things. I am sure if there is a book that does say such things abt Bill Cosby, it can be looked up or found out whether he said such things abt those shows.
Someone probably quoted him as saying he hated those shows, doesn't mean he actually said it. We just have to research. I have been checking the internet but have NOT come up with anything that says Bill hated Good Times or any other black show. That doesn't mean he has NOT said anything, just saying I haven't found anything...YET.
TVFactFan 07-24-2007, 09:00 PM Bill Cosby-By Soloman J.Herbert
The Cosby Show Racism Audieces,Myths Of The American Dream-By Sut Jhally And Justin Lewis
You should have posted that the first time
TVFactFan 07-24-2007, 09:03 PM I don't know abt that book. I don't know if such a book exists. But being mistaken and providing misleading/false information are two different things. I am sure if there is a book that does say such things abt Bill Cosby, it can be looked up or found out whether he said such things abt those shows.
Someone probably quoted him as saying he hated those shows, doesn't mean he actually said it. We just have to research. I have been checking the internet but have NOT come up with anything that says Bill hated Good Times or any other black show. That doesn't mean he has NOT said anything, just saying I haven't found anything...YET.
I personally have more interesting things to research besides whether Bill Cosby liked Good Times-lol Something like-"The ratings for season 5 of Good Times"
Ireneparalegal 07-24-2007, 09:03 PM Bill Cosby-By Soloman J.Herbert
The Cosby Show Racism Audieces,Myths Of The American Dream-By Sut Jhally And Justin Lewis
Very interesting. Thanx. Can you post some of what is said abt the shows?
Ireneparalegal 07-24-2007, 09:05 PM I personally have more interesting things to research besides whether Bill Cosby liked Good Times-lol Something like-"The ratings for season 5 of Good Times"
Then don't make a thread asking for a source. Someone provided you TWO SOURCES and you got what you asked for. I was researching because I was curious. No one asked you to research. But don't make a thread and ask for something and then get mad when someone does provide back up. :lol:
TVFactFan 07-24-2007, 09:09 PM Then don't make a thread asking for a source. Someone provided you TWO SOURCES and you got what you asked for. I was researching because I was curious. No one asked you to research. But don't make a thread and ask for something and then get mad when someone does provide back up. :lol:
I kind of lost interest in the Bill Cosby thing but was always open to hearing if someone found something on the topic like you, Brian, Brieannas, or ThomasE, defintely not George&weezyfan
Ireneparalegal 07-24-2007, 09:12 PM I kind of lost interest in the Bill Cosby thing but was always open to hearing if someone found something on the topic like you, Brian, Brieannas, or ThomasE, defintely not George&weezyfan
Which is what I was doing. I was researching. But don't say that abt Weezyfan, especially now that we know she had TWO SOURCES to back that thing up. :lol: Seems to me Weezyfan has been more than gracious and patient than anyone else here. ;)
Ireneparalegal 05-06-2008, 08:40 PM Until the website backs up your theory lol
I highly doubt that Bill Cosby had any beef with GTs. He worked with Jimmie, John and Ja'net on his movies.
I agree Brie. Unless there is a legit source, we can assume that Bill hating GT was just a bad rumor or an assumption. He may not have liked the way some things were done on the show, but still, there is no proof.
TVFactFan 05-06-2008, 09:07 PM I agree Brie. Unless there is a legit source, we can assume that Bill hating GT was just a bad rumor or an assumption. He may not have liked the way some things were done on the show, but still, there is no proof.
Ok I will add it to my HUNT LIST
Ireneparalegal 05-06-2008, 09:09 PM Ok I will add it to my HUNT LIST
As you should. :lol:
Do you know what magazine it may have been?
TVFactFan 05-06-2008, 09:10 PM As you should. :lol:
Do you know what magazine it may have been?
I don't know, maybe a article in Ebony Magazine from the spring of 74-lol
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