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TVFactFan 06-17-2007, 07:30 PM the story behind Carlton's dance
Why the first Vivian left the show
Why the second was not shown as much
Why the House changed after season 1
Was There ever a thought of a spinoff
Why Tyra Banks character was so short-lived
Why Will didn't marry the Lisa character
Why the Jazz character always was thrown out with the same outfit on
Why the Opening Credits remained the Same for 6 years?
Why the Carlton character was never given a companion when the Will, Ashely, and Hilary characters had companions
I know most of these wouldn't be answered but I think it's defintely for a THS of this show
BTW: I'm not looking for anyone on this board to try and answer these questions, just something I want to know from a THS or old magazines or newspapers
Janice 06-17-2007, 07:41 PM I thought THS got into the more personal details of the actors themselves. I could be wrong though. I'd love to see a behind the scenes look at the show too.
TVFactFan 06-17-2007, 07:43 PM I thought THS got into the more personal details of the actors themselves. I could be wrong though. I'd love to see a behind the scenes look at the show too.
Yeah most times they do but I'm sure they would talk about the departure of the first Vivian and the addition of the second Vivian
waichingliu81 06-20-2007, 04:39 PM i know that the E! channel does show these true hollywood type of stories on TV and so solomon, it would be interesting to see one based on the fresh prince of bel air. as for those questions you just posed, we know the answers to them and yet i'll answer them
1) alfonso ribeiro was made to watch tom jones music videos
2) i assume that, and this is going by the rumours that the actress didn't get along with will and that she was pregnant at the time as well
3) because the second vivian wasn't up to scratch compared to the first one
4) maybe because the creators thought that the audience wouldn't notice
5) if there was a spin-off then i would've much preferred to have seen a will and carlton one or just one with carlton in it as the main character
6) the tyra banks character was annoying and was rude and nasty to will
7) i thought the same thing as well
8) i wonder too why he always wears the same types of clothes that he has on
9) maybe the makers were too lazy to do anything about it and decided to leave things as they were
10) maybe because to the writers he was too much of a geek, and that in the show, they preferred it when he can do without a girlfriend. when really that was not and is not true
TVFactFan 06-20-2007, 06:09 PM i know that the E! channel does show these true hollywood type of stories on TV and so solomon, it would be interesting to see one based on the fresh prince of bel air. as for those questions you just posed, we know the answers to them and yet i'll answer them
1) alfonso ribeiro was made to watch tom jones music videos
2) i assume that, and this is going by the rumours that the actress didn't get along with will and that she was pregnant at the time as well
3) because the second vivian wasn't up to scratch compared to the first one
4) maybe because the creators thought that the audience wouldn't notice
5) if there was a spin-off then i would've much preferred to have seen a will and carlton one or just one with carlton in it as the main character
6) the tyra banks character was annoying and was rude and nasty to will
7) i thought the same thing as well
8) i wonder too why he always wears the same types of clothes that he has on
9) maybe the makers were too lazy to do anything about it and decided to leave things as they were
10) maybe because to the writers he was too much of a geek, and that in the show, they preferred it when he can do without a girlfriend. when really that was not and is not true
I don't take this type of information seriously without listed sources. So if you can provide where you got the info from then I will take what you saying more seriously. And I believe I stated I didn't want anyone on this board to answer any of those quuestions unlless you can proveide a source to back up what you are saying
waichingliu81 06-20-2007, 06:31 PM I don't take this type of information seriously without listed sources. So if you can provide where you got the info from then I will take what you saying more seriously. And I believe I stated I didn't want anyone on this board to answer any of those quuestions unlless you can proveide a source to back up what you are saying
okay, here's one source in relation to one of those questions.
Whitten riled by recent firing from NBC-TVs 'Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.' - Janet Hubert-Whitten
Jet, August 9, 1993
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_n15_v84/ai_13227647
Janet Hubert-Whitten, recently fired from "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air," told Jet that she is a scapegoat and the victim of a vendetta waged by NBC and the show's officials.
Ms. Hubert-Whitten said the network tried to reduce the number of episodes she'd appear in from 25 to 13 and cut her salary in half.
"They (NBC officials) kept calling me asking me to say the parting was mutual, but I'm not like that," she said. "I fight back. They intended to slap me on the wrist if I would behave like a good little ****** woman."
She admitted that she was moody on the set last season because of a difficult pregnancy. "I was extremely moody and gained 65 pounds. I was moody to the point of not talking to people. Every pregnant woman is moody. But, I was loyal and worked up to the day I delivered my son."
There was a lot of tension on the set of "Fresh Prince" last year "between factions but I was not in it. As a cast, we fought like all families do but we made up and got along." She did not elaborate on the factions. Jet was told that she had contacted Will Smith, star of the hit sitcom but was told he had nothing to do with her dismissal.
She said she has been made the scapegoat for a variety of problems that she had nothing to do with. She was not certain whether or not the network was upset at her for being pregnant in the first place.
NBFC issued a statement that read: "We were unable to reach agreement in renegotiating Janet Hubert-Whitten's contract for the next season with "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air." She will not be returning to the show." There were no further comments on charges she made.
i'll try and find out the others for you
TVFactFan 06-20-2007, 06:36 PM okay, here's one source in relation to one of those questions.
Whitten riled by recent firing from NBC-TVs 'Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.' - Janet Hubert-Whitten
Jet, August 9, 1993
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_n15_v84/ai_13227647
Janet Hubert-Whitten, recently fired from "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air," told Jet that she is a scapegoat and the victim of a vendetta waged by NBC and the show's officials.
Ms. Hubert-Whitten said the network tried to reduce the number of episodes she'd appear in from 25 to 13 and cut her salary in half.
"They (NBC officials) kept calling me asking me to say the parting was mutual, but I'm not like that," she said. "I fight back. They intended to slap me on the wrist if I would behave like a good little ****** woman."
She admitted that she was moody on the set last season because of a difficult pregnancy. "I was extremely moody and gained 65 pounds. I was moody to the point of not talking to people. Every pregnant woman is moody. But, I was loyal and worked up to the day I delivered my son."
There was a lot of tension on the set of "Fresh Prince" last year "between factions but I was not in it. As a cast, we fought like all families do but we made up and got along." She did not elaborate on the factions. Jet was told that she had contacted Will Smith, star of the hit sitcom but was told he had nothing to do with her dismissal.
She said she has been made the scapegoat for a variety of problems that she had nothing to do with. She was not certain whether or not the network was upset at her for being pregnant in the first place.
NBFC issued a statement that read: "We were unable to reach agreement in renegotiating Janet Hubert-Whitten's contract for the next season with "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air." She will not be returning to the show." There were no further comments on charges she made.
i'll try and find out the others for you
There you go, now that's what I want. That's what I like to see, a source to back up Information.
GSU2004 06-21-2007, 01:59 PM the story behind Carlton's dance
Why the first Vivian left the show
Why the second was not shown as much
Why the House changed after season 1
Was There ever a thought of a spinoff
Why Tyra Banks character was so short-lived
Why Will didn't marry the Lisa character
Why the Jazz character always was thrown out with the same outfit on
Why the Opening Credits remained the Same for 6 years?
Why the Carlton character was never given a companion when the Will, Ashely, and Hilary characters had companions
I know most of these wouldn't be answered but I think it's defintely for a THS of this show
BTW: I'm not looking for anyone on this board to try and answer these questions, just something I want to know from a THS or old magazines or newspapers
I can deal with people discussing things as long as they are not passing it off as factual information but speculation. I don't trust too much entertainment news from many of these papers as reporters are more out to search for Hollywood gossip rather than ask the questions that need to be asked.
Other questions could be:
-Why was Ashley aged signficantly between the seasons? She went from being 9 to 12 (something like that)?
-Why was the cliffhanger from season four never resolved? As we started season five, they spoofed themselves and moved forward with a different storyline.
-Why was Janet Hubert-Whitten's pregnancy written into the show? There were already three kids and Will? Many black shows tend to make themselves busy by adding more characters to give everyone a job. Adding another child is always a jump the shark moment
-Was the series really cancelled at the end of season four or on the verge of it? Was Will really ready to move on in 1996 or did the network finally say enough is enough?
-The casts real thoughts about "Out all Night" and "In the House" as some members were featured on episodes of those shows.
waichingliu81 06-21-2007, 03:05 PM I can deal with people discussing things as long as they are not passing it off as factual information but speculation. I don't trust too much entertainment news from many of these papers as reporters are more out to search for Hollywood gossip rather than ask the questions that need to be asked.
Other questions could be:
-Why was Ashley aged signficantly between the seasons? She went from being 9 to 12 (something like that)?
-Why was the cliffhanger from season four never resolved? As we started season five, they spoofed themselves and moved forward with a different storyline.
-Why was Janet Hubert-Whitten's pregnancy written into the show? There were already three kids and Will? Many black shows tend to make themselves busy by adding more characters to give everyone a job. Adding another child is always a jump the shark moment
-Was the series really cancelled at the end of season four or on the verge of it? Was Will really ready to move on in 1996 or did the network finally say enough is enough?
-The casts real thoughts about "Out all Night" and "In the House" as some members were featured on episodes of those shows.
wasn't season six officially the last season of the fresh prince? it was, wasn't it?
TVFactFan 06-21-2007, 06:18 PM wasn't season six officially the last season of the fresh prince? it was, wasn't it?
Yes by that time the Fresh Prince was way out of the top 20 and everyone knew it was the last season
SitcomFan_101 06-22-2007, 06:38 AM Why the Jazz character always was thrown out with the same outfit on
I know you are not looking for answers of your questions but i think they did that because they were too lazy too make another video of Jazz getting thrown out and with the same tshirt they can just have the same highlight replayed over and over i don't think it was that big of a deal really.
waichingliu81 06-22-2007, 06:53 AM I know you are not looking for answers of your questions but i think they did that because they were too lazy too make another video of Jazz getting thrown out and with the same tshirt they can just have the same highlight replayed over and over i don't think it was that big of a deal really.
it was funny the first few times it had happened, but as the show wore on it got tedious and was no longer funny. though it was funny to see jazz throw uncle phil outside the house but the way it happened was so fake anyway because i couldn't imagine jazz literatelly throwing uncle phil out. though the same can be said when phil threw jazz out.
TVFactFan 06-22-2007, 01:03 PM I know you are not looking for answers of your questions but i think they did that because they were too lazy too make another video of Jazz getting thrown out and with the same tshirt they can just have the same highlight replayed over and over i don't think it was that big of a deal really.
Not only did you ignore my request about not answering any of the questions, but you answered the question with a source backing up what you were saying. And I asked that anyone on this board not try and GUESS what the answer is because I don't want to know from anyone on thias board without a source.
waichingliu81 06-22-2007, 02:24 PM [QUOTE=TheAnalyzer]the story behind Carlton's dance
got this off the web
Alfonso Ribeiro
Glitter, Glamour, Computers!
Transcript of the NBC All-Star Chat from January 15, 1996
Part Four
http://members.tripod.com/jjtupac/carlton.htm
Host NBCshowhost:
JoshP: Alfonso--where did they come up with "The Carlton Dance"??
Alfonso Ribeiro: Actually, I stole it from Eddie Murphy and Courteney Cox...
Alfonso: Remember when she was in the Bruce Springsteen video? So, Courteney, thank you very much!
Scoobiedoo30 06-22-2007, 05:29 PM I agree with you
SitcomFan_101 07-10-2007, 06:24 AM Not only did you ignore my request about not answering any of the questions, but you answered the question with a source backing up what you were saying. And I asked that anyone on this board not try and GUESS what the answer is because I don't want to know from anyone on thias board without a source.
Dude i didn't ignore any of your post that's why i said "i know you said you don't want anybody to answer your questions..." i just thought that was an obvious answer that a 5 year old can figure out and 1 of the producers said it on the dvd, they were just too lazy to keep making new tapes of him with different tshirts it's no big deal, it's just a tv show and you are nitpicking things.
Janice 07-10-2007, 10:36 PM Solomon you manage some of your threads tougher than some of the nuns I had in school, lol.
TVFactFan 07-10-2007, 11:51 PM Dude i didn't ignore any of your post that's why i said "i know you said you don't want anybody to answer your questions..." i just thought that was an obvious answer that a 5 year old can figure out and 1 of the producers said it on the dvd, they were just too lazy to keep making new tapes of him with different tshirts it's no big deal, it's just a tv show and you are nitpicking things.
If someone answered one of the questions without a source then it has no credibility, the end
TVFactFan 07-10-2007, 11:53 PM Solomon you manage some of your threads tougher than some of the nuns I had in school, lol.
I sure do-lol If it's something I really want to know I managed them real TOUGH_lol
SitcomFan_101 07-17-2007, 02:29 AM I just gave you my source :rofl:
WONT YOU PAY ATTENTION? WHAT ARE YOU DEATH?
4UDILL4C 12-16-2007, 06:18 AM With the Jazz being thrown out in the same outfits, I saw this when I was searching for the names of the paintings on the set:
With the house itself, the taping of it and the different shots had to e done right at the beginning because of the owners not wanting their house to be taped on more than it needed to be (that is not the inside obviously, but the outside). So the production did several takes of the outside of it at night and during the day. They did several takes of Jazz getting thrown out in only 2-3 outfits. That's why when he is going to get thrown out, you can tell based on his outfits. The brown and yellow shirt is one. They have to have him wear those specific outfits so it matches up when they edit in the shot of him getting tossed.
I wouldn't make this up.. It might be on IMDb... either way, it caught my eye and interesting indeed.
TVFactFan 12-16-2007, 02:11 PM With the Jazz being thrown out in the same outfits, I saw this when I was searching for the names of the paintings on the set:
With the house itself, the taping of it and the different shots had to e done right at the beginning because of the owners not wanting their house to be taped on more than it needed to be (that is not the inside obviously, but the outside). So the production did several takes of the outside of it at night and during the day. They did several takes of Jazz getting thrown out in only 2-3 outfits. That's why when he is going to get thrown out, you can tell based on his outfits. The brown and yellow shirt is one. They have to have him wear those specific outfits so it matches up when they edit in the shot of him getting tossed.
I wouldn't make this up.. It might be on IMDb... either way, it caught my eye and interesting indeed.
Thanks very Interesting Info
Ireneparalegal 12-29-2007, 05:58 PM okay, here's one source in relation to one of those questions.
Whitten riled by recent firing from NBC-TVs 'Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.' - Janet Hubert-Whitten
Jet, August 9, 1993
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_n15_v84/ai_13227647
Janet Hubert-Whitten, recently fired from "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air," told Jet that she is a scapegoat and the victim of a vendetta waged by NBC and the show's officials.
Ms. Hubert-Whitten said the network tried to reduce the number of episodes she'd appear in from 25 to 13 and cut her salary in half.
"They (NBC officials) kept calling me asking me to say the parting was mutual, but I'm not like that," she said. "I fight back. They intended to slap me on the wrist if I would behave like a good little ****** woman."
She admitted that she was moody on the set last season because of a difficult pregnancy. "I was extremely moody and gained 65 pounds. I was moody to the point of not talking to people. Every pregnant woman is moody. But, I was loyal and worked up to the day I delivered my son."
There was a lot of tension on the set of "Fresh Prince" last year "between factions but I was not in it. As a cast, we fought like all families do but we made up and got along." She did not elaborate on the factions. Jet was told that she had contacted Will Smith, star of the hit sitcom but was told he had nothing to do with her dismissal.
She said she has been made the scapegoat for a variety of problems that she had nothing to do with. She was not certain whether or not the network was upset at her for being pregnant in the first place.
NBFC issued a statement that read: "We were unable to reach agreement in renegotiating Janet Hubert-Whitten's contract for the next season with "The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air." She will not be returning to the show." There were no further comments on charges she made.
i'll try and find out the others for you
If she was fired, did she ever file a grievance or try to sue? I mean, usually when an actress' pregnancy plays a part in her losing her acting role, that is grounds for a lawsuit, much like Hunter Tylo who sued the late Aaron Spelling and won.
JulieSomoski 12-29-2007, 06:18 PM If she was fired, did she ever file a grievance or try to sue? I mean, usually when an actress' pregnancy plays a part in her losing her acting role, that is grounds for a lawsuit, much like Hunter Tylo who sued the late Aaron Spelling and won.
Yes, she sued Will Smith mainly, along with others involved in her dismissal, but the case was later dismissed . . . I don't know why. I think if she was being fired because of her hormones on a rampage, she should have gotten a hefty profit from her lawsuit. Plus, once she was fired, the show's ratings went down, and so did the quality.
mstewart 01-02-2008, 05:30 PM Yes, she sued Will Smith mainly, along with others involved in her dismissal, but the case was later dismissed . . . I don't know why. I think if she was being fired because of her hormones on a rampage, she should have gotten a hefty profit from her lawsuit. Plus, once she was fired, the show's ratings went down, and so did the quality.
Sounded like Will Smith was an immature brat when he was doing the show. Janet brought a lot of class to the role of Vivian and she was a flashy dresser as well. I did see a difference in her performances the season she was pregnant and her role was diminishing that season. I never knew what was the purpose of bringing Daphne Maxwell Reid into the show. She was hardly in it and the chemistry between her and James Avery was not there. The chemistry between Avery and Janet was there.
JulieSomoski 01-02-2008, 05:48 PM Sounded like Will Smith was an immature brat when he was doing the show. Janet brought a lot of class to the role of Vivian and she was a flashy dresser as well. I did see a difference in her performances the season she was pregnant and her role was diminishing that season. I never knew what was the purpose of bringing Daphne Maxwell Reid into the show. She was hardly in it and the chemistry between her and James Avery was not there. The chemistry between Avery and Janet was there.
I couldn't put it better myself. Will was young back then, and he and Janet were obviously angry at each other. Although it was Janet's choice to quit the show, when she came back during summer hiatus to sign a contract willing to appear in only half the season's episodes, Will Smith would not permit, which is when the lawsuit came up.
But yeah, Janet and James definitely had the best chemistry on the show. There was no doubt both were great actors. Daphne, on the other hand, wasn't a great actress, barely spoke in the episodes she was in, and seemed to have no chemistry with any of the cast members on the show.
waichingliu81 01-02-2008, 06:03 PM I couldn't put it better myself. Will was young back then, and he and Janet were obviously angry at each other. Although it was Janet's choice to quit the show, when she came back during summer hiatus to sign a contract willing to appear in only half the season's episodes, Will Smith would not permit, which is when the lawsuit came up.
But yeah, Janet and James definitely had the best chemistry on the show. There was no doubt both were great actors. Daphne, on the other hand, wasn't a great actress, barely spoke in the episodes she was in, and seemed to have no chemistry with any of the cast members on the show.
she was so unconvincing in that role- and no offence, but when did vivian's accent change into a southern one- i.e it sounded like she was from texas. though according to imdb, daphne is from new york herself
Ireneparalegal 01-02-2008, 07:35 PM How much "pull" did Will actually have on this show? I mean, he was not a teen but he wasn't a veteran in television either to have such pull as to say whether someone should return fully or not. Could this be just rumors?
waichingliu81 01-03-2008, 09:10 AM How much "pull" did Will actually have on this show? I mean, he was not a teen but he wasn't a veteran in television either to have such pull as to say whether someone should return fully or not. Could this be just rumors?
well this was will smith's show after all, and so her probably had as much say in terms of casting certain actors and choosing the celebs to make special guest appearences
Furienna 01-07-2008, 03:23 PM Why the Carlton character was never given a companion when the Will, Ashely, and Hilary characters had companions
Carlton actually had several girlfriends during the six year run. He even managed to "steal" a girl from Will. He was never engaged, like Will and Hilary was, but then neither was Ashley. Well, of course, Ashley was still very young, when the show ended, but still...
TVFactFan 01-07-2008, 07:07 PM Carlton actually had several girlfriends during the six year run. He even managed to "steal" a girl from Will. He was never engaged, like Will and Hilary was, but then neither was Ashley. Well, of course, Ashley was still very young, when the show ended, but still...
SEVERAL?? It was only ONE, the MailGirl, The girl he stole from Will wasn't his girlfriend bcause we never saw her again.
Ireneparalegal 01-07-2008, 08:41 PM There were several girlfriends?
TVFactFan 01-07-2008, 08:46 PM There were several girlfriends?
I must have been in the bathroom everytime those eps come on when carlton had his girlfriends-lol
Ireneparalegal 01-07-2008, 08:48 PM I must have been in the bathroom everytime those eps come on when carlton had his girlfriends-lol
Yeah, me too. :lol:
I don't consider girls he liked or wanted, as girlfriends. :lol:
TVFactFan 01-07-2008, 08:56 PM Yeah, me too. :lol:
I don't consider girls he liked or wanted, as girlfriends. :lol:
He only had the one girl as a girlfriend, "Michelle" the Mail Lady
Furienna 01-08-2008, 07:44 AM And I don't remember her. Okay, maybe, but it's a very vague memory. Was it in the 6th and last season, maybe?
Seriously, what I meant was that he had dates. If only characters seen in more than one episode count, then Will only had one girlfriend too, and that was Lisa, and Hilary only had one boyfriend, and that was Trevor.
JulieSomoski 01-08-2008, 06:07 PM well this was will smith's show after all, and so her probably had as much say in terms of casting certain actors and choosing the celebs to make special guest appearences
It was all in the E! True Hollywood Story, so it obviously isn't made up. But, tis was basically his show - the main reason Janet wanted out in the first place. And then, by season 6, didn't he become producer? I don't blame Janet at all for wanting to quit. Who'd wanna take orders from 20 year old kid?
JulieSomoski 01-08-2008, 06:09 PM she was so unconvincing in that role- and no offence, but when did vivian's accent change into a southern one- i.e it sounded like she was from texas. though according to imdb, daphne is from new york herself
I know-LOL. Daphne didn't have a southern accent at all, but for some reason, it always sounded like it when she spoke. I can honestly say they made a huge mistake when casting her.
Furienna 01-08-2008, 06:14 PM It was all in the E! True Hollywood Story, so it obviously isn't made up. But, tis was basically his show - the main reason Janet wanted out in the first place. And then, by season 6, didn't he become producer? I don't blame Janet at all for wanting to quit. Who'd wanna take orders from 20 year old kid?
Will Smith was twentytwo already when the show started, and he was twentyfive when Janet left. He was still young though.
TVFactFan 01-08-2008, 09:04 PM And I don't remember her. Okay, maybe, but it's a very vague memory. Was it in the 6th and last season, maybe?
Seriously, what I meant was that he had dates. If only characters seen in more than one episode count, then Will only had one girlfriend too, and that was Lisa, and Hilary only had one boyfriend, and that was Trevor.
It was in the last season, she came to deliver the mail and he received a rejection from a video dating service and he found out she tried the same dating service and that's how they met
Furienna 01-09-2008, 10:53 AM Ah, yes. For some reason, we don't get to see season 6 every cycle over here in Sweden. So I don't remember those episodes too well.
waichingliu81 01-09-2008, 01:34 PM well this was will smith's show after all, and so her probably had as much say in terms of casting certain actors and choosing the celebs to make special guest appearences
my apologies. it should be 'he probably had as much say in terms of casting certain actors....etc'. not her
Wreckless 05-26-2008, 03:55 AM the story behind Carlton's dance
Why the first Vivian left the show
Why the second was not shown as much
Why the House changed after season 1
Was There ever a thought of a spinoff
Why Tyra Banks character was so short-lived
Why Will didn't marry the Lisa character
Why the Jazz character always was thrown out with the same outfit on
Why the Opening Credits remained the Same for 6 years?
Why the Carlton character was never given a companion when the Will, Ashely, and Hilary characters had companions
I know most of these wouldn't be answered but I think it's defintely for a THS of this show
BTW: I'm not looking for anyone on this board to try and answer these questions, just something I want to know from a THS or old magazines or newspapers
I know this is a OLD thread but what the heck, you do know there was a THS on TFP made like 2 years ago, before this thread started? I know you don't need the answers from us people, maybe from the people behind the show/the show's writing, but i'll answer the questions anyway, since I know most of the answers.
1. There wasn't really a history to Carlton's dance. From what I know and heard about TFP, alfonso ribiero freestyled it, or should I say, came up with it shortly before the first season was filmed. as far as the motions and how he came up with the snapping, I don't know, I'll research and see if i come up with anything.
2. Janet Hubert-Whitten had a contract to only appear in so many episodes through her first 3 years/only 3 years, compared to a full time role, such as Will or Carlton's. Throughout the end of the Second/going into the 3rd season's taping of the fresh prince, whitten was pregnant with her child, daughter or son i don't know, but that's when baby nicky fictionally was written in, as whitten/aunt viv's birth child on the show. Whitten was unhappy with her financial agreement on the show, believing that it should be her show, rather then Will Smith's, as Will Smith stated in interviews after her departure from the show. Whitten made her last appearence as aunt viv in the episode "The Baby Comes Out," as she did not appear in Will and Carlton's graduation ceremony, like the rest of the family did. Whitten took a disliking to Smith outside of the show and during filming, stating that she thought Smith was a bratty, self centered child, caught in himself, for having his own show at such a age, when she was much older and never had a role as big as Smith's on TFP. Therefore, Daphine Maxwell Reid took over the role of Aunt Viv the start of the 4th season until the show's end in 1996.
3. Earlier episodes focused on family oriented themes, at least they did more often compared to 5th-6th season episodes. Such episodes where Aunt Viv in season 1 was a devoted professor at the college, showed herself helping out Kayla, Will's girlfriend at the time commit to her college studies. The later episodes primarily were focused on the future of the family, both as a unit and individually. Ex. Ashley's singing, and then modeling career, then moving with Hilary to NY, Phillip and Vivian taking care of baby nicky and so on and so on. So, Daphne Maxwell Reid's character wasn't used as often, for those reasons.
4. I don't have too much knowledge on why the set of the house/arrangement was changed after Season 1. It was probably used to show more family scenes, sitting and chatting together, to show their family ways, unity and not to coupe every home scene up in the living room, like in Season 1. That way, you could have the banks talking to each other, coming from upstairs to the family room, to the kitchen, and even sometimes in the bedrooms- Ashley's, Carlton and Will's, Geoffrey's more so in earlier seasons and even Phillip and Vivian's bedroom.
5. I don't believe there was ever any thoughts of a spinoff. First, because Will Smith intended to leave and move past TFP to act in movies/gain bigger roles in movies. If a sequel would primarily retain it's focus on Will, it would be near impossible without the cooperation of Will Smith. Initially, The Philadelphia Story was to be the last episode, where Will stays in Philadelphia with his old friends and mother, when Will Smith, written to by many fans, decided to renew the show for 2 more seasons, also to give it a proper farewell or ending if you will. I highly doubt there was plans to have a sequel.
6. I suppose Tyra Banks' character "Jackie Ames" wasn't used in more episodes, due to her profound modeling career, and maybe her pursuit to act in more movies before continuing onward with her modeling career. Plus Will wasn't a tied down man until the end of Season 5 until Lisa's cancellation of her and Will's marriage in the same season, so Jackie could of been in more episodes, but Will went through so many girlfriends through the series' run, that it was alright the amount of episodes Tyra was in. Although I really liked Tyra's character/Jackie on the show and Tyra is such a beautiful woman, I wouldn't mind her acting in more TFP episodes myself.
7. Will was engaged to Lisa Wilkes or Beulah, if you will :lol: until Lisa called off the wedding at the altar, when she claimed she was rushed into marrying will/the marriage itself. If you saw that episode, "For Whom The Wedding Bells Toll," you saw that Fred Wilkes, Lisa's father who was alone after her mother dieing, proposed to Vy Smith, Will's Mother from Philly, who accepted the marriage, thus making Will and Lisa step brothers/sisters. After that turn around of events in the show, Will and Lisa marrying each other a second time would of been quite awkward, even illegal i presume, for marrying not blood relatives, but relatives. Lisa wasn't seen much after that episode.
8. They shot Jazz being thrown out and just filmed it every time the moment came about. So Jazz being thrown out a million times by Phillip/Will, etc. in the show, out of the house was just a recurring shot, when they filmed it the first time. Makes sense.
9. The opening credits DID NOT remain the same. although the rap did remain the same for the most part, their were different versions for the first 3 episodes of the series. The first version was the song everybody sings to, except with an addition .40 second verse. I can't remember the exact rhyme that was rapped in the additional verse for the first 3 episodes but it mentioned "drinking orange juice out of a champagne glass" as Will made his way to Bel-Air in a plane, presumingly via first class. Then a waterfall shot was added, then the rest was the same. The only other change in the opening credits was Janet Hubert Whitten's name credited in the first 3 seasons when she appeared as Aunt Viv, then her name was taken out, and instead replaced with Daphne Maxwell Reid's name, the replacement for Whitten as Aunt Viv. So Reid was credited in the opening theme as aunt viv, from seasons 4- until the show's finale in season 6/1996. I'm sure you can find the opening theme used only for the first 3 episodes on youtube.com or on google.com somewhere, just type it in if you're interested in finding/listening to the extended version. Alright.
10. Finally, Alfonso Ribeiro's Carlton character was not given a companion for the most part throughout the series, due to writers and executive producers for TFP wanting the carlton character to be a geeky/preppy, grade A, extracurricular participating, cheery but non-popular character. And rightfully so, alot of sitcoms need that goofy, constant annoying but lovable character to change the ways of the show, as Ribeiro's carlton character did. Nothing wrong with that, alot of people knew that Carlton didn't have alot of girlfriends for a reason, it is even joked about alot by Uncle Phil, Will, Jazz etc. other characters on the show, about carlton not being able to get a date, being a virgin etc.
Hope I clarified any confusing questions/subjects, sorry for the long read :) .
TVFactFan 05-26-2008, 01:40 PM The Carlton dance came from Eddie Murphy
Wreckless 05-26-2008, 03:11 PM ^ Did it?
TVFactFan 05-26-2008, 03:14 PM ^ Did it?
Yeah, Alfonso got the idea to do that type of dance from watching eddie murphy on SNL
Wreckless 05-26-2008, 10:35 PM oh nice lol, thanks for the info bro, never knew that..
MrRetro_08 05-27-2008, 06:15 PM Yeah, Alfonso got the idea to do that type of dance from watching eddie murphy on SNL
I heard he got it from the "Dancing in the dark" music video
Furienna 05-27-2008, 06:23 PM Okay, that's cool to know.
Wreckless 05-27-2008, 10:29 PM lol oh aight, good looks on the info.
Wreckless 06-03-2008, 08:48 PM This forum is deadd..
Furienna 06-03-2008, 09:45 PM No, it's not. It's just dormant. :lol:
Wreckless 06-04-2008, 12:56 AM lol, dormant, dead..the same thing..we really need a legit FP forum, there's on on the Will Smith and Jazzy Jeff website but one for just FP and more members...Plus, that site hasn't sent me a confirmation email so I can't post on the forums there.
Wreckless 01-14-2009, 12:24 AM I wish they would do a TFP True Hollywood Story Part 2. Their was never really a first TFP THS. It was mentioned a little bit in the Will Smith THS on E!, shown in the last year or two. They talked about, how on TFP, Will Smith in real life thought he could just put his feet up and not take the show or things seriously, and James Avery straightened him out, or at least told him, this is not his house, and is work. They also showed how Will used to mouth other character's lines in the first season or two of the show. If you look at past episodes of the first 2 seasons, you can see this when their are more then one or two characters in a specific scene in an episode.
For TFP THS, I would like to see backstage footage, more interesting facts and info about the show that most to little people know about. In addition, I would like to know more about Benny Medina's life and how his life influenced him to do the show. The show is based off of his life I believe. I initially thought it was Will Smith's idea for the show that he presented to producers, but Benny asked Will around 1989/1990 if he wanted to star in this new show he had ideas for, based around his life in Philly.
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