I am wondering why Rhoda called Mary "kid"? They were the same age. Was it just a nickname she had for Mary because they were friends?

I think it was probably just a nickname. I've heard Rhoda call Bess Lindstrom "kid" too.

Yeah, I think it was just a "New Yorker" saying that she used.

I call my friends "kid" sometimes - but I'm not from New York - I probably got it from Rhoda! :lol:

"Ace" is another nickname she'd use with guys sometimes.

I am wondering why Rhoda called Mary "kid"? They were the same age. Was it just a nickname she had for Mary because they were friends?

I remember hearing Valerie say in an interview once that it was kind of Rhoda's way of reminding Mary that she may have had the great body, etc, but Rhoda was still from NY, and she was the "tough" one. If that sort of makes sense, LOL. I also think it was something that only Rhoda got to call her b/c they were best friends. I don't even think Rhoda ever really called her sister "kid" when she moved back to NY.

Hope that helps!

- Kristen

I really don't remember her calling Brenda kid much at all. Most of the time she called her "Bren"

Thanks for the responses. That helps. :)

When did Rhoda move back to NY? Why did she leave? It seems strange to think that Rhoda wasn't there during all seven seasons. I'm still trying to play catch up with episodes. I have seen Seasons 1-2, discs 1 & 3 of Season 3. and disc 1 of Season 4. I'm waiting to get to see disc 2 of Season 3, and discs 2 & 3 of Season 4.

Thanks for the responses. That helps. :)

When did Rhoda move back to NY? Why did she leave? It seems strange to think that Rhoda wasn't there during all seven seasons. I'm still trying to play catch up with episodes. I have seen Seasons 1-2, discs 1 & 3 of Season 3. and disc 1 of Season 4. I'm waiting to get to see disc 2 of Season 3, and discs 2 & 3 of Season 4.

Rhoda left halfway through Season 4. It wasn't really explained on Mary Tyler Moore why she left, but if you watched Rhoda, what happened was that she went to NY to visit her family (her parents, and her sister Brenda who magically appeared after they showed a totally different sister on MTM!), and while she was there, she met a guy, Joe, and decided to stay there to be with him. They eventually got married, and Mary, Lou, Murray, Georgette, and Phyllis (yes, Phyllis!) all came to the wedding.

Hope that helps! :)

- Kristen

It also makes sense from the POV of experience. Rhoda was the tough girl from NY, had had more experience out in the "cold, hard world", and "little Mary" was the naive innocent girl whose eyes hadn't been opened a whole lot yet. Being so naive and innocent, it sounded appropriate and cute for hardened-by-the-world Rhoda to affectionately call her "kid"---like she was looking out for her. :)

Rhoda left halfway through Season 4. It wasn't really explained on Mary Tyler Moore why she left, but if you watched Rhoda, what happened was that she went to NY to visit her family (her parents, and her sister Brenda who magically appeared after they showed a totally different sister on MTM!), and while she was there, she met a guy, Joe, and decided to stay there to be with him. They eventually got married, and Mary, Lou, Murray, Georgette, and Phyllis (yes, Phyllis!) all came to the wedding.

Hope that helps! :)

- Kristen

Thanks, that helps.
I've never seen the show Rhoda or the show Phyllis. Did Phyllis leave the show also? It's a shame that Rhoda left. It would seem strange to think that Rhoda and/or Pjyllis weren't on for the duration of The Mary Tyler Moore Show. I bet that was interesting that Phyllis went to Rhoda's wedding. :)

Thanks, that helps.
I've never seen the show Rhoda or the show Phyllis. Did Phyllis leave the show also? It's a shame that Rhoda left. It would seem strange to think that Rhoda and/or Pjyllis weren't on for the duration of The Mary Tyler Moore Show. I bet that was interesting that Phyllis went to Rhoda's wedding. :)
It was interesting that Phyllis went to Rhoda's wedding - especially since she wasn't invited!! :lol: She was a crasher. :lol:

I don't really know why Rhoda called Mary "kid", but it was an affectionate nickname, and stuck. Was Rhoda still calling Mary that in that TV movie that aired a few years back, Kristen??

Thanks, that helps.
I've never seen the show Rhoda or the show Phyllis. Did Phyllis leave the show also? It's a shame that Rhoda left. It would seem strange to think that Rhoda and/or Pjyllis weren't on for the duration of The Mary Tyler Moore Show. I bet that was interesting that Phyllis went to Rhoda's wedding. :)

Yes, Phyllis' appearance at Rhoda's wedding was a classic moment. (I won't say anything more in case you ever do see it. ;) ) You might want to check out YouTube, there are several Rhoda clips there, including one scene from the wedding!

As for Phyllis' departure from TMTMS, she left at the beginning of S5, and the storyline was that Lars died (so we never did see what he looked like! LOL), and Phyllis and Bess went to live with Lars' family. I haven't seen Phyllis in quite some time, so I'm a bit fuzzy on what the relationships were. I think Phyllis moved in with Lars' mother and stepfather, or vice versa. Can't remember now.

Once again, hope that helps! :)

- Kristen

also; "PHYLISS" wasn't that good. I remember back when it was on, in 1977 or 78 and I thought it was pretty good. But then when NICK AT NITE used to show it, I started to watch one episode and ended up turning it off after 10 minutes.

Thanks again, everyone, that helps. I hope I'm not bugging anyone with my questions. :) :wave:

also; "PHYLISS" wasn't that good. I remember back when it was on, in 1977 or 78 and I thought it was pretty good. But then when NICK AT NITE used to show it, I started to watch one episode and ended up turning it off after 10 minutes.

I know what you mean, but you might have tuned into a first season ep. It did get better in the second season, but yah, never was as good as MTM or Rhoda.

I'm sorry, I have another question.
In an episode they call Rhoda, Rhoda Fay(spelling?), but in all the previous episodes they call her Rhoda Morgenstern(spelling?) The episode I'm referring to is the one where she falls for a guy who works at the same store she does. Where did the name Fay come from?
Thanks.

Faye is Rhoda's middle name---Rhoda Faye Morgenstern. :)

Faye is Rhoda's middle name---Rhoda Faye Morgenstern. :)
Fay (or Faye) was also Brenda's middle name. :lol:

Faye is Rhoda's middle name---Rhoda Faye Morgenstern. :)

Thanks. :)