View Full Version : Even the Good Ones Can Be Bad


Madame X
06-01-2007, 10:13 PM
Sometimes even the "good" characters showed a bad side. I was disappointed in a few of them, but as usual, they eventually learned a lesson and snapped out of it.

-Doc Baker shunned black doctor Caleb Ledoux
-Lars Hanson was bitter toward the guy who got Carrie out of the mine shaft
-Nels was cruel to his sister Annabelle
-Caroline blamed Miss Beadle when Carrie fell down the mine shaft
-Laura was horrible to Doc Baker when her baby died
-Almanzo treated Laura like crap after he had the stroke

I think the only time Reverend Alden was "bad" was when he finally put his foot down about the Gallinders. That was justified and he looked ready to kick some a**!

Ireneparalegal
06-01-2007, 10:15 PM
Laura hated her new baby brother. She wished he never existed. She got her wish.

catlover79
06-01-2007, 11:23 PM
Don't forget the family always treated Carrie like a baby - even when she was 12! She only had one line per episode and never had a storyline of her own! :p

Ireneparalegal
06-01-2007, 11:25 PM
Don't forget the family always treated Carrie like a baby - even when she was 12! She only had one line per episode and never had a storyline of her own! :p
Oh don't forget that forgettable dream episode. YUCK!!!!!!!:mad:

catlover79
06-01-2007, 11:26 PM
Oh don't forget that forgettable dream episode. YUCK!!!!!!!:mad:
That's one of the few LHOP episodes I haven't seen - and I don't want to!! :lol:

Madame X
06-01-2007, 11:39 PM
Laura hated her new baby brother. She wished he never existed. She got her wish.

Yep! That's a "good" gone bad! :(

Ireneparalegal
06-01-2007, 11:51 PM
That's one of the few LHOP episodes I haven't seen - and I don't want to!! :lol:
DON'T!!!!!!!!!! *irene pulling on salt sister's arm to keep her from watching it* :rofl:

catlover79
06-01-2007, 11:53 PM
DON'T!!!!!!!!!! *irene pulling on salt sister's arm to keep her from watching it* :rofl:
I'd rather watch the "Sylvia" episodes again...no I don't!! :rofl:

Don't forget the sucker punch Pa gave Manly (Back To School Part II).

Madame X
06-02-2007, 12:18 AM
I'd rather watch the "Sylvia" episodes again...no I don't!! :rofl:

Don't forget the sucker punch Pa gave Manly (Back To School Part II).

Oh, Irene and her Salt Sister: omg: there was so much violence. How can this be a family show!? ;) There was disease, rape, murder, plague, gossip, blasphemy, bigotry, greed, death, mauling, psychopathy, rage, alcoholism, drug abuse, theft, cheating, beatings, cruelty, unwed pregnancy, bastardism, atheism, prejudice, hatred, snobism, animal abuse, racism,etc.

In spite of it all, I continue to watch everyday!

Ireneparalegal
06-02-2007, 12:30 AM
Oh, Irene and her Salt Sister: omg: there was so much violence. How can this be a family show!? ;) There was disease, rape, murder, plague, gossip, blasphemy, bigotry, greed, death, mauling, psychopathy, rage, alcoholism, drug abuse, theft, cheating, beatings, cruelty, unwed pregnancy, bastardism, atheism, prejudice, hatred, snobism, animal abuse, racism,etc.

In spite of it all, I continue to watch everyday!
All that was left to touch was incest. :eek: I think it would be easier to list WHAT DIDN'T OCCUR in Walnut Grove. :crazy:

Madame X
06-02-2007, 12:46 AM
All that was left to touch was incest. :eek: I think it would be easier to list WHAT DIDN'T OCCUR in Walnut Grove. :crazy:

I agree! With the earlier posts about the people that disappeared, the jerks, the good that did bad, all the deaths, the mean Olesens, the stupid episodes, Charles' hair-do's, Carrie's inept episodes, and Laura's six year growth from buck-toothed tomboy to married mother, incest was the only thing (as far as we know and I wonder about Sylvia's father) that didn't happen.

Hail to the "best family show ever!"

Of course, like I said, I still watch 3-4 episodes a day! :wave:

Ireneparalegal
06-02-2007, 09:10 PM
I agree! With the earlier posts about the people that disappeared, the jerks, the good that did bad, all the deaths, the mean Olesens, the stupid episodes, Charles' hair-do's, Carrie's inept episodes, and Laura's six year growth from buck-toothed tomboy to married mother, incest was the only thing (as far as we know and I wonder about Sylvia's father) that didn't happen.

Hail to the "best family show ever!"

Of course, like I said, I still watch 3-4 episodes a day! :wave:
It may have been a family show, but you would never know by the episodes they showed. :lol: :eek:

Sterling Holobyte
06-04-2007, 09:43 AM
-Caroline blamed Miss Beadle when Carrie fell down the mine shaft

Yeah, that was misdirected anger, for sure. Though that was said out of the panic that she might not ever see her daughter again and looking for someone to blame, so it is just a wee bit understandable because she wasn't thinking straight.
The time I think that Caroline went "bad" was when "Buck Rogers" came to town and worked on the house while Charles was away, and she got kind of flirty and even changed her hairstyle because "he" liked it that way.:nonono: Shame on you, Caroline. While the cat's away the mice will play, huh?!;)
I actually was glad to see Mary tell him to hit the road and call her mom out on it, because I think she was right.

I would hope my own daughter would do the same thing for me should she see some "questionable" goings-on happening around my wife. Not that that would happen, but geeze, if even Caroline Ingalls can be tempted....;)

Ireneparalegal
06-06-2007, 07:57 PM
Yeah, that was misdirected anger, for sure. Though that was said out of the panic that she might not ever see her daughter again and looking for someone to blame, so it is just a wee bit understandable because she wasn't thinking straight.
The time I think that Caroline went "bad" was when "Buck Rogers" came to town and worked on the house while Charles was away, and she got kind of flirty and even changed her hairstyle because "he" liked it that way.:nonono: Shame on you, Caroline. While the cat's away the mice will play, huh?!;)
I actually was glad to see Mary tell him to hit the road and call her mom out on it, because I think she was right.

I would hope my own daughter would do the same thing for me should she see some "questionable" goings-on happening around my wife. Not that that would happen, but geeze, if even Caroline Ingalls can be tempted....;)
Caroline didn't change her hairstyle. She had it down for the evening because it was time to go to bed. Charles had just arrived home and it so happened to be when Caroline had her hair down. He mentioned he liked it. Women like it when their man in their life notices small details like that. That is why she ran out to him and hugged him. She knew she had a great husband and he appreciated her. I never saw Caroline flirt with "Uncle Chris". He was the one who fell for Caroline. She never would have done anything like that to Charles or behind his back.

Madame X
06-06-2007, 10:35 PM
Caroline didn't change her hairstyle. She had it down for the evening because it was time to go to bed. Charles had just arrived home and it so happened to be when Caroline had her hair down. He mentioned he liked it. Women like it when their man in their life notices small details like that. That is why she ran out to him and hugged him. She knew she had a great husband and he appreciated her. I never saw Caroline flirt with "Uncle Chris". He was the one who fell for Caroline. She never would have done anything like that to Charles or behind his back.

I agree. I think Caroline was totally devoted to Charles, and vice-versa. They both had people hit on them and they realized it, but they were too much in love to ever consider reciprocating. :love:

Ireneparalegal
06-06-2007, 11:29 PM
I agree. I think Caroline was totally devoted to Charles, and vice-versa. They both had people hit on them and they realized it, but they were too much in love to ever consider reciprocating. :love:
That is why I have always considered them to be thee most romantic couple on television. They had eyes only for each other and no matter what trials and tribulations they went through, they remained a couple, in love and happy.

There is a line from one of the early episodes where Caroline is helping with plowing and Charles tells her (I may not have the words exact):

"The one regret I have in life is that I won't have the joy of asking you again to be my wife." Awwwwwwwww, that line is so damn romantic!!!!! Makes me wanna cry. :kiss: :eyes: :heart: :love:

Sterling Holobyte
06-07-2007, 08:48 AM
Caroline didn't change her hairstyle. She had it down for the evening because it was time to go to bed. Charles had just arrived home and it so happened to be when Caroline had her hair down.
Yes, she had it down when Charles got home because Chris said he liked her hair like that before.

I never saw Caroline flirt with "Uncle Chris". He was the one who fell for Caroline. She never would have done anything like that to Charles or behind his back.
Maybe "flirt" was a wrong word, but she was liking his attention, that's for sure. You could see it in her eyes.
But yeah, I don't think Caroline would have ever done anything with him, she's too much of a good woman, but I do think she was tempted to, and I had never seen that in Caroline before. Or after.
That's why I was happy to see "uncle Chris" go, probably just as much as Mary was.

Ireneparalegal
06-08-2007, 08:00 PM
Yes, she had it down when Charles got home because Chris said he liked her hair like that before.


Maybe "flirt" was a wrong word, but she was liking his attention, that's for sure. You could see it in her eyes.
But yeah, I don't think Caroline would have ever done anything with him, she's too much of a good woman, but I do think she was tempted to, and I had never seen that in Caroline before. Or after.
That's why I was happy to see "uncle Chris" go, probably just as much as Mary was.
Chris did tell her he liked her hair like that, but as Caroline pointed out, it wasn't "practical" to take care of chores like that. And as you may see when the episode airs, Charles came home in the evening, close to bedtime (as the girls were already in bed) and Caroline was already getting ready to get to bed. She was done for the day and of course, let her hair down, as she always did when she was preparing for bed. She didn't put it down because some man told her it looked nice.

As for liking his attention, what woman wouldn't like that kind of attention? That is normal. What a woman likes better is when "her" man notices the things that someone else notices abt her. If a woman's man didn't notice her new dress, new hairstyle, etc. it is a downer.

Do you recall the episode when Caroline thought Charles was cheating with Widow Thurman? She made a new blouse and Charles didn't notice it. She was heartbroken.

That is why Caroline ran out to Charles right after he noticed how beautiful her hair looked down. He probably hadn't said anything nice abt her hair for a long while and she was happy that he finally said something. A woman likes a compliment from her man, rather than a stranger.

Madame X
06-09-2007, 12:41 AM
Chris did tell her he liked her hair like that, but as Caroline pointed out, it wasn't "practical" to take care of chores like that. And as you may see when the episode airs, Charles came home in the evening, close to bedtime (as the girls were already in bed) and Caroline was already getting ready to get to bed. She was done for the day and of course, let her hair down, as she always did when she was preparing for bed. She didn't put it down because some man told her it looked nice.

As for liking his attention, what woman wouldn't like that kind of attention? That is normal. What a woman likes better is when "her" man notices the things that someone else notices abt her. If a woman's man didn't notice her new dress, new hairstyle, etc. it is a downer.

Do you recall the episode when Caroline thought Charles was cheating with Widow Thurman? She made a new blouse and Charles didn't notice it. She was heartbroken.

That is why Caroline ran out to Charles right after he noticed how beautiful her hair looked down. He probably hadn't said anything nice abt her hair for a long while and she was happy that he finally said something. A woman likes a compliment from her man, rather than a stranger.

Yep! :nod:

Sterling Holobyte
06-09-2007, 11:10 AM
Well, I still feel she was liking his attentions a bit too much. But I'm not going to sit here and argue about it with you guys, because we could go on and on and on.:wallbang ;)

But I will watch that episode again(even though I have seen it about a jillion times) when it comes around again and try and see it with the points of your posts.
I don't want to think ill of Caroline - as I've said before, I think she is a good woman - but I remember just not liking her very much in this episode ever since I first saw it.