I never looked at that character the same after getting dumped. I thought he was supposed to be the COOL kid, kind of like Vinny on Welcome Back Kotter, not someone getting dumped-lol Then after getting dumped Screech rips off his shirt in the hallway in front of everyone when he thought Zack was trying to still his girl. The basically the Zack character started looking like a CLOWN and the cool title went to SLATER

Kelly was THE hot chick, and no matter how cool he was, she was over his league.

I agree about "The Fight" though--that was just lame. Then again, wasn't it a "Tori" episode?

In the end they did end up together and married.

Kelly was THE hot chick, and no matter how cool he was, she was over his league.

I agree about "The Fight" though--that was just lame. Then again, wasn't it a "Tori" episode?


Yup that was the Tori ep

Well, it's not his fault that he got dumped. His reaction to being dumped was a little over the top, though.

Well, it's not his fault that he got dumped. His reaction to being dumped was a little over the top, though.



But since his character was supposed to be so cool it just looked stranged to see him in that situation.

I never looked at that character the same after getting dumped. I thought he was supposed to be the COOL kid, kind of like Vinny on Welcome Back Kotter, not someone getting dumped-lol Then after getting dumped Screech rips off his shirt in the hallway in front of everyone when he thought Zack was trying to still his girl. The basically the Zack character started looking like a CLOWN and the cool title went to SLATER

Slater was always the cool kid. Zack was the prep, but I agree that his character changed when he was dumped. Then the show began to get a bit too emotional for me towards the end of the series, with all those prom and break-up episodes. The early episodes were the best though, when Zack and Slater were fighting over Kelly.

Even cool people can get dumped, though.

Even cool people can get dumped, though.


Well I guess Slater was the COOL GUY on the Show since he was never disrespcted by Screech or dumpe by Jessie

To be totally frank, I find the idea that being dumped somehow makes you less-cool to be very offensive to me. I mean, bad things happen to cool people, too - and when people get dumped, they feel bad enough already. They don't need to hear that they are less-cool, because of the actions of another person.

If there is anything about the event that made Zack less-cool, it was his REACTION to being dumped - not the act of being dumped itself. I'm sure people who have been dumped are already questioning that they may somehow be less-cool, so the last thing they need is to have someone confirm the notion for them. I mean, Zack can't control how Kelly behaves, can he?

Heck, that's maybe even WHY Zack reacted so strongly - because of his fear that people may think of him as being less-cool. Not that that excuses his actions, but I hope you get what I mean.

I just checked, and that episode is not a Tori one. Kelly and Jessie are there. It's one of the weirdest episodes, though. Zack and Lisa kiss and act as if they are going to start dating, yet we never hear about it again. Screech decides to quit following after Lisa and sets his sights on Jessie. That, too, seems to get dropped after this episode.

As for Zack, I liked him better in the early seasons, because he was a little more insecure. You rooted for him. However, as the show went on, he was just so cocky, lol.

I never looked at that character the same after getting dumped. I thought he was supposed to be the COOL kid, kind of like Vinny on Welcome Back Kotter, not someone getting dumped-lol Then after getting dumped Screech rips off his shirt in the hallway in front of everyone when he thought Zack was trying to still his girl. The basically the Zack character started looking like a CLOWN and the cool title went to SLATER



in my opinion zack has always been cool

in my opinion zack has always been cool


I disagree, he was dumped and cried and disrespected by SCREECH in the hallway when he had his shirt ripped open. So he was not cool to me, try A.C. Slater instead

I disagree, he was dumped and cried and disrespected by SCREECH in the hallway when he had his shirt ripped open. So he was not cool to me, try A.C. Slater instead

i guess your kinda right but still, i kno he cried but he lost the love of his life. plus just because you cry it dosent make u not cool

To be totally frank, I find the idea that being dumped somehow makes you less-cool to be very offensive to me. I mean, bad things happen to cool people, too - and when people get dumped, they feel bad enough already. They don't need to hear that they are less-cool, because of the actions of another person.

If there is anything about the event that made Zack less-cool, it was his REACTION to being dumped - not the act of being dumped itself. I'm sure people who have been dumped are already questioning that they may somehow be less-cool, so the last thing they need is to have someone confirm the notion for them. I mean, Zack can't control how Kelly behaves, can he?

Heck, that's maybe even WHY Zack reacted so strongly - because of his fear that people may think of him as being less-cool. Not that that excuses his actions, but I hope you get what I mean.

I disagree, he was dumped and cried and disrespected by SCREECH in the hallway when he had his shirt ripped open. So he was not cool to me, try A.C. Slater instead

Again, it is NOT Zack's fault that Screech disrespected him in the hallway and ripped his shirt open. I stand by the belief that it's very cruel and insensitive to say that a person is no longer cool because of what OTHER PEOPLE do to them. If Zack ever stopped being cool, it would only be because of ZACK'S OWN BEHAVIOUR!! Zack can't control how other people treat him, so I think it's very unfair to judge his "coolness" on those grounds.

i guess your kinda right but still, i kno he cried but he lost the love of his life. plus just because you cry it dosent make u not cool
I agree with you. I think crying is very normal and healthy.

I think all the students of the main cast had cried at least once - Zack crying as Bambi doesn't really count, though - but Screech tended to cry the most. That's actually part of what I liked about him, in fact. I don't think he cried in Good Morning Miss Bliss, though - but he cried quite a bit in both the original series and The New Class.

Again, it is NOT Zack's fault that Screech disrespected him in the hallway and ripped his shirt open. I stand by the belief that it's very cruel and insensitive to say that a person is no longer cool because of what OTHER PEOPLE do to them. If Zack ever stopped being cool, it would only be because of ZACK'S OWN BEHAVIOUR!! Zack can't control how other people treat him, so I think it's very unfair to judge his "coolness" on those grounds.



If a guy lets another guy disrespect him in front of a lot of people then he can't be COOL anymore, period. What makes you cool is HOW YOU HANDLE situatons, not what Situation you are in

Well, that's exactly the point I was making - but you were blaming him for the act of Kelly breaking up with him in and of itself, as opposed to the way Zack REACTED to Kelly breaking up with him. He couldn't exactly make Kelly shut up about breaking up with him - unless he was to punch her in the nose or something, which would've been an immature way to act. I agree that Zack that react immaturely to being dumped by Kelly - so, for that reason, you could maybe say he lost his coolness.

Bottom line is this:

Kelly dumping Zack ~ Not Zack's fault! He couldn't help it!
Zack making Kelly shut up about dumping him by using force ~ Immature behaviour! Not very cool!
Zack throwing a tantrum because Kelly broke up with him ~ That was immature on his part.
Zack feeling grief but coming to an unhappy acceptance ~ That's normal. Wouldn't lose any "cool" points there.

Well, that's exactly the point I was making - but you were blaming him for the act of Kelly breaking up with him in and of itself, as opposed to the way Zack REACTED to Kelly breaking up with him. He couldn't exactly make Kelly shut up about breaking up with him - unless he was to punch her in the nose or something, which would've been an immature way to act. I agree that Zack that react immaturely to being dumped by Kelly - so, for that reason, you could maybe say he lost his coolness.

Bottom line is this:

Kelly dumping Zack ~ Not Zack's fault! He couldn't help it!
Zack making Kelly shut up about dumping him by using force ~ Immature behaviour! Not very cool!
Zack throwing a tantrum because Kelly broke up with him ~ That was immature on his part.
Zack feeling grief but coming to an unhappy acceptance ~ That's normal. Wouldn't lose any "cool" points there.



He could have pretended that he wasn't bothered by it and said-"I actually think this is a good idea because I never loved you" And then cried about it when he wasn't around her.

He could have pretended that he wasn't bothered by it and said-"I actually think this is a good idea because I never loved you" And then cried about it when he wasn't around her.


then he really wouldn't be cool. i agree with both of u but if he would of said that then he would have been a real jerk.

then he really wouldn't be cool. i agree with both of u but if he would of said that then he would have been a real jerk.


It would have been better for him to look like a JERK than to look like a Wuss-lol

i do agree with u but still- your not sposed to hit and/or punch girls.

i do agree with u but still- your not sposed to hit and/or punch girls.


I said nothing about him hitting or punching girls, I said he could have PRETENDED that kelly wanting to break up didn't bother him at all instead of crying.

ok well then i guess i agree with u. well sorry i misenturpend wat u said. my bad. well have a good night. bye

If anything makes Zack uncool, it would be how he reacted to Kelly dumping him.

which one. because that night at the prom he was calm

The one where acted immature about it.

oh which one was that???????????????????????????????????

I said nothing about him hitting or punching girls, I said he could have PRETENDED that kelly wanting to break up didn't bother him at all instead of crying.

So you think he should LIE about how he feels? You think he shouldn't be HONEST about it? Anyway, crying doesn't cause harm to anyone! It's not like how secondhand smoke caused by smoking can give lung cancer to bystanders.

If anything makes Zack uncool, it would be how he reacted to Kelly dumping him.

Exactly! That's what I was trying to explain from the beginning. Not the fact that he was dumped in-and-of-itself, but the way he reacted to it.

oh which one was that???????????????????????????????????

I assume he meant the one the OP was talking about, where Kelly left Zack for Jeff.

well that night when she first dumped him he was calm. wasnt he?

Come to think of it, I think it wasn't until the next day, that Zack actually started acting up. So I see what you're saying.

yea he went down hill after that night