View Full Version : Do you think the Episode-"George and Louise in a Bind" was Incomplete???


TVFactFan
04-28-2007, 09:46 PM
After Florence Discovers Louise and George Tied up in the Kitchen, she was telling them how MESSY the living room was from the Burglar but we the Viewers never got to see the Living Room after Florence mentioned it. Florence just unties louise, George is left in the kitchen and that's it-lol

Incomplete?

GSU2004
04-29-2007, 01:53 AM
After Florence Discovers Louise and George Tied up in the Kitchen, she was telling them how MESSY the living room was from the Burglar but we the Viewers never got to see the Living Room after Florence mentioned it. Florence just unties louise, George is left in the kitchen and that's it-lol

Incomplete?

I never seen part 2 so maybe you was watching the syndicated edit of that episode.

TVFactFan
04-29-2007, 11:32 AM
I never seen part 2 so maybe you was watching the syndicated edit of that episode.


It has 3 parts in syndication and I was watching it on the DVD and was expecting a Tag scene but never saw one

USATVFAN
04-29-2007, 01:02 PM
i've always wonder why they left it the way it was, i wish they would have had a tag sceen becuase i wanted to see what the robbery took.

TVFactFan
04-29-2007, 01:14 PM
i've always wonder why they left it the way it was, i wish they wiuld have had a tag sceen becuase i wanted to see what the robbery took.


Or how much of a mess he made in the living room. Maybe I will find the CBS version of this ep one day

Jinxey
05-16-2007, 01:44 AM
Can we guess what could've been edited out of the three-part episode?

I think one scene could've been a clip with Bentley, because they started to talk about him. I think this was the second or third episode.

One thing I can't stand about butchered two or three part episodes from that era is when they just freeze it and use a different font for the closing credits. It looks unnatural. Remember how they did this to the two and three-parters for the season 1 and 2 Diff'rent Strokes episodes?

TVFactFan
05-16-2007, 07:39 PM
Can we guess what could've been edited out of the three-part episode?

I think one scene could've been a clip with Bentley, because they started to talk about him. I think this was the second or third episode.

One thing I can't stand about butchered two or three part episodes from that era is when they just freeze it and use a different font for the closing credits. It looks unnatural. Remember how they did this to the two and three-parters for the season 1 and 2 Diff'rent Strokes episodes?



Who mentioned Bentley?

Billy K.
05-25-2007, 11:08 AM
Louise mentioned Bentley.

Something to the effect of "when we first met him he was so nice!!"


I definately see an edit there...you would've thought they'd show a selection of scenes with Bentley on there.

Also notice after the scene where George and Louise are leaving their old house in Queens, the scene goes back to George and Louise tied up in the kitchen, then it goes back to Louise in the Kitchen in Queens, then back to the kitchen in the apartment (with them tied up again).

Billy K.
05-25-2007, 11:09 AM
BTW, I don't remember them mentioning Mother Jefferson and showing her "moments".

TVFactFan
05-25-2007, 05:04 PM
BTW, I don't remember them mentioning Mother Jefferson and showing her "moments".


I have to look at it again

Jinxey
06-06-2007, 08:33 PM
Also notice after the scene where George and Louise are leaving their old house in Queens, the scene goes back to George and Louise tied up in the kitchen, then it goes back to Louise in the Kitchen in Queens, then back to the kitchen in the apartment (with them tied up again).


I remember that weird edit; I thought there was something wrong with my eyes...LOL

Did anyone pick up any other possible missing scenes?

In terms of picture quality and bad syndication editing, I would have to say of all of the Jefferson episodes this three-parter wins the "episode in the poorest condition" award.

TVFactFan
06-06-2007, 08:38 PM
I remember that weird edit; I thought there was something wrong with my eyes...LOL

Did anyone pick up any other possible missing scenes?

In terms of picture quality and bad syndication editing, I would have to say of all of the Jefferson episodes this three-parter wins the "episode in the poorest condition" award.



I guess I will the CBS 90 minute version of that ep one day

Jinxey
07-09-2007, 05:20 PM
OK....I'm watched the three-parter to try to figure out what I think may be missing from each episode.

For all three episodes, the second set of ending credits (cast, hairdresser, etc.) are missing footage where it says "A T.A.T Communications Company production in association with NRW productions"

Part I:
1:03 After they show George and Louise sitting on the couch and right before they show the opening credits, they show them tied-up in the kitchen trying to move back-to-back. if you look really carefully, Louise starts talking but the opening theme song drowns it out

2:12 After the opening credits, it looks like another edit was made because you see George laughing on the couch and Florence walking away right before Louise comes back with the earrings for her date. I'm guessing that he made a joke about Florence's date because when she came back to the house (after being stood up) and untied the Jeffersons, George told her "well you said he was smart"

The ending was frozen and had the 1st set of ending credits (directors, writers, etc) attached to them (approximately 23 seconds is added onto each episode)

Side Note:
13:17 This is not an edit, but notice that when they show the piano episode clip when Florence is crawling under it; look in the background, and you'll see Mike Evans...lol



Part II:
It looks like before the opening credits, some footage was removed, maybe some clips from the first episode (example: "...last week on the Jeffersons). I say this because when the opening credits looked like it may have had one or two seconds shaved off

10:53 After George says (about Florence) "...yea now nobody could tell her nothing", there's a jumpcut to a shot from a different angle. I'm guessing they showed some clips of her badmouthing George

11:19 After the commercial break, it looks like a few seconds were shaved off here because you hear someone in the audience laughing before George exhales hard and says "ok Wheezy it looks like we'll have to do it all by ourselves...let's work on these ropes"

20:40 The scene in Queens where George hands Louise the box and while she turns around, it jumps to them being tied up in the kitchen, then it jumps back to Louise with the box turning around and then fades to them back into the kitchen. AWFUL EDIT.
That clip of them being tied up in-between the All In The Family scene was totally unecessary.

20:59 Remember that unecessary clip of George and Louise being tied up? It's the same shot here; that's where they got it from

The ending was frozen and had the 1st set of ending credits (directors, writers, etc) attached to them (approximately 23 seconds is added onto each episode)

Side Note:
2:50 I noticed this scene where they talked about Archie when he was missing (to my knowledge) was never shown on syndicated prints of All In The Family



Part III:
It looks like before the opening credits, some footage was removed, maybe some clips from the first episode (example: "...last week on the Jeffersons). I say this because when the opening credits looked like it may have had one or two seconds shaved off

3:41 They start talking about Bentley being the first neighbor they met and how nice (and weird) he is. There was definitely some clips edited from here

8:24 After the "parcel post" gag from All In The Family, and before the graduation clip, it looks like there could've been another clip, but it was edited out to save time

10:28 It looks like a clip could've been edited out right before the Willis' dancing scene when Louise starts talking about problems Lionel and Jenny had along the way

13:34 It looks like the wedding ceremony clip was short because the reverend almost didn't have a chance to finish his sentence "I just performed the ceremony"

13:51 After the commercial break, it looks like some dialogue was missing because George ahs a puzzled look on his face then Louise says "remember your old navy buddy"? I'm guessing that based on the Louis Gosett Jr. scene, maybe George told her how attractive she was and Louise said something about how guys made passes at her

16:29 I think the last part of that first scene with George and Lionel at he bar was cut short, since the second scene is from the same episode.

Check it guys for yourselves and see what you think!!!

TVFactFan
07-09-2007, 05:23 PM
OK....I'm going to watch the three-parter and try to figure out what I think may be missing from each episode.


So your 29 year old memory is that good huh?

Jinxey
07-10-2007, 08:58 AM
So your 29 year old memory is that good huh?
lol....no I'm just going by those really horrible edits that were done. Check it out and see what you think.

MikeLutton
07-10-2007, 06:14 PM
what season was this again i want get the dvd n watch it

Billy K.
07-10-2007, 08:27 PM
Season 4 - last DVD. (I think it's the second to last episode -- or should I say 4th to the last?????)

MikeLutton
07-10-2007, 11:06 PM
k thanks im going try get it soon did anyone get it is it uncut

TVFactFan
07-11-2007, 12:41 PM
lol....no I'm just going by those really horrible edits that were done. Check it out and see what you think.


I can't tell how horrible the editing i because I never saw the Full Length Episode

Jinxey
07-18-2007, 10:18 AM
I can't tell how horrible the editing i because I never saw the Full Length Episode

At this point, do you think there's any hope getting the full length episode?
Is there a storage policy (similar to film) where they keep negatives or original copies somewhere in a vault?

Besides this episode, what are the other episodes in this DVD series that we have syndicated versions???

TVFactFan
07-18-2007, 05:55 PM
At this point, do you think there's any hope getting the full length episode?
Is there a storage policy (similar to film) where they keep negatives or original copies somewhere in a vault?

Besides this episode, what are the other episodes in this DVD series that we have syndicated versions???



There is one ep on the DVD that is shorter than N@N's version-lol It's the ep-"Tom the Hero in season 3

Jinxey
08-11-2007, 12:26 AM
There is one ep on the DVD that is shorter than N@N's version-lol It's the ep-"Tom the Hero in season 3

That's weird...where was the edit???

Jinxey
08-11-2007, 12:27 AM
I can't tell how horrible the editing i because I never saw the Full Length Episode

Any luck with finding this episode?

I know the edits I mentioned are pure speculation, but I'm curious to see if anyone checked (or would check) this three-parter to see what they think might be edited out.

TVFactFan
08-11-2007, 01:06 AM
That's weird...where was the edit???


The part when George is having a fit on the couch when Florence askes him how Tom saved his life. On the N@N version, you see Louise Laughing and then look into the audience. On the DVD, you just see Louise laugh and it cuts away right when she looks into the audience

Jinxey
08-11-2007, 07:48 AM
The part when George is having a fit on the couch when Florence askes him how Tom saved his life. On the N@N version, you see Louise Laughing and then look into the audience. On the DVD, you just see Louise laugh and it cuts away right when she looks into the audience

So, in this case, it could've been a video transfer issue, rather than getting a syndicated print?

TVFactFan
08-11-2007, 01:54 PM
So, in this case, it could've been a video transfer issue, rather than getting a syndicated print?


Yeah a video transfer issue sounds more accurate

Jinxey
08-11-2007, 04:57 PM
Yeah a video transfer issue sounds more accurate

Isn't season 3 the first season released on DVD to include chapter stops where each commercial break should be?

Could it be possible that the fifth season episode The Ones You Love (that's missing roughly two minutes of footage) suffers from the same problem rather than being a syndicated print?

I know after the commercial break for this episode, there was some footage missing cause I heard the audience laughter before Tom Willis started talking.

I'm going to tape this episode when it comes on local TV, but I have to make sure I don't miss it because they've been mixing the season 5 with the season 6 episodes and they're not going in order.

OK....so edited episodes so far are:
Third Season: Tom the Hero
Fourth Season: George and Louise in a Bind
Fifth Season: The Ones You Love

Jinxey
08-14-2007, 08:36 AM
OK......

The Ones You Love airs on TV land on Thursday, August 23 @ 9:00AM. I will tape it, since the TV land edits sometimes are different than the edits shown on a local station.

TVFactFan
08-15-2007, 06:27 PM
Isn't season 3 the first season released on DVD to include chapter stops where each commercial break should be?

Could it be possible that the fifth season episode The Ones You Love (that's missing roughly two minutes of footage) suffers from the same problem rather than being a syndicated print?

I know after the commercial break for this episode, there was some footage missing cause I heard the audience laughter before Tom Willis started talking.

I'm going to tape this episode when it comes on local TV, but I have to make sure I don't miss it because they've been mixing the season 5 with the season 6 episodes and they're not going in order.

OK....so edited episodes so far are:
Third Season: Tom the Hero
Fourth Season: George and Louise in a Bind
Fifth Season: The Ones You Love



Why are you saying the ep-"The Ones You Love is edited??

Jinxey
08-16-2007, 05:01 PM
Why are you saying the ep-"The Ones You Love is edited??

I take that back. I still believe after the commercial break there is missng footage, but I noticed that the first half of the show only lasted about nine minutes. Usually the first half of an episode lasts about 11-12 minutes (correct me if I'm wrong).

It looks like whatever was edited during the first half, it was probably done at the beginning of the episode since the rest of the episode seems to look (for lack of a better word) "edit-less".

Jinxey
08-26-2007, 10:06 AM
Why do shows on TV land begin 10 minutes before or after their designated time???

I didn't get a chance to really see the first half, but the second half matched up to what's on the DVD

Oh well.....there goes that idea

TVFactFan
08-26-2007, 03:36 PM
Why do shows on TV land begin 10 minutes before or after their designated time???

I didn't get a chance to really see the first half, but the second half matched up to what's on the DVD

Oh well.....there goes that idea


Yeah the Jeffersons start at 2:10am instead of 2am

Jinxey
08-26-2007, 08:37 PM
Yeah the Jeffersons start at 2:10am instead of 2am

The night it came on...it started around 1:50. When I turned to it a few minutes before two, George and Louise just started that mock argument.