View Full Version : New Gilligan DVD in the works.....direct from the Schwartzes
Harold Hecuba 04-15-2007, 02:36 PM Hi There,
Okay my name isn't Harold Hecuba but I'm working with Lloyd Schwartz and we are talking to DVD distributors about releasing at least 'Rescue From Gilligan's Island' on DVD, and it will be a quality print of it unlike the version floating around. With any luck we will also put out the other two movies and the cartoons but we're still looking into the rights( 'Castaways' is looking pretty free and clear so far).
In any case, I gather that fans liked the GI DVDs that Warner put out but were less than satisfied with the extras.
My vision of this project is to create a Gilligan collectable that no fan can be without so I'd like to know what extras that you, the fans, would be most interested in seeing on such a set.
Now remember, this is only in the talking stages now but please do tell me what you think.
gilligan fanatic 04-16-2007, 10:16 AM Hi, welcome to the boards!
As my name says I am a Gilligan Fanatic, I have been collecting everything GI related for about 7 years now. This is what I have in my collection as of right now that is GI related. http://www.freewebs.com/gftapes/gilligansislandstuff.htm
I have pictures from a lot of them in this thread http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=175182
I will also be getting the This is Your Life of Jim Backus in sometime soon. I also have an original ad for the second season premiere. I also have other Sherwood Schwartz series such as Big John Little John and Harper Valley.
These are some things from my collection that I think are the most important.
*The Late Show Reunion from 1988 - Last time they are all together
*Family Feud - The Cast VS Batman - I have all of there appearances on the show, but this one was very fun to watch because they were unstopable.
*Good Morning America Reunion - From 1982, features all of them, but Jim Backus is much healthier and jokes around a lot more.
*All Acess Pass the TV Land Awards - Last time Bob Denver is with the crew.
*The Barbara McNair Show - Jim Backus in a very nice interview, this is from 1970.
*Welcome to Haland - Natalie Schafers last interview.
*Entertainment Tongiht - I have about 10 different interview, they last a few minutes each.
If you would like to see any of these for DVD consideration I will gladly donate copies of them. I want to help out on the DVD in anyway. Just let me know.
mrs.gingerhinkley 04-16-2007, 06:22 PM Hi There,
Okay my name isn't Harold Hecuba but I'm working with Lloyd Schwartz and we are talking to DVD distributors about releasing at least 'Rescue From Gilligan's Island' on DVD, and it will be a quality print of it unlike the version floating around. With any luck we will also put out the other two movies and the cartoons but we're still looking into the rights( 'Castaways' is looking pretty free and clear so far).
In any case, I gather that fans liked the GI DVDs that Warner put out but were less than satisfied with the extras.
My vision of this project is to create a Gilligan collectable that no fan can be without so I'd like to know what extras that you, the fans, would be most interested in seeing on such a set.
Now remember, this is only in the talking stages now but please do tell me what you think.
YES!!!! I am very very HAPPY to hear this news! I wait with anticipation!
Welcome to the boards HH;)
btw... luv that Harold Heckuba guy:lol: Phil Silvers is an AWESOME actor!:D
Harold Hecuba 04-17-2007, 02:21 AM Those are all good ideas GF and in fact they closely resemble my own wish list. However, the deciding factors are A) our budget and B) whether or not those clips are available to be licensed. You'd be surprised at how expensive some of the clips you mentioned are to use and in the case of ET they almost never allow outside entities to use their material.
My guess is that while we may be able to include some of those, that a lot of the extras will have to be 'homemade' such as new interviews and audio commentary. But I'm right there with you as far as wanting to include the stuff you mentioned.
Also, if you can find copies of the movies 'Reunion In France' and 'Father Was A Fullback' then check them out. They feature the 2nd ever screen appearances of Natalie Schafer and Jim Backus, respectively. Watching them you see that Jim was playing a character with Mr. Howell but Natalie was playing herself as Lovee. It's so funny to see her at approximately forty years old and very much the way we remember her.
gilligan fanatic 04-19-2007, 01:41 PM I have been meaning to get Father was a Fullback. I know it was released on VHS.
Harold Hecuba, since you are associated with the Schwartzes there is something I was wondering and you may be able to help me out. I have a book of Unsold TV Pilots and one that was mentioned was called "The Help". Sherwood Schwartz produced it and Phil Silvers is in it. It doesn't list an air date in the book. In fact it doesn't even say it was ever filmed. Do you know any details about the pilot?
Hi! This is good news! As far as added features go, it would be great for
fans to be able to have clips from some of the TV shows such as "Baywatch,"
"All My Children," "Howard Stern," etc. that featured GI themes and skits.
It may be difficult for fans to obtain these at this point, especially if it
involved purchasing other, unwanted episodes of other shows in a set.
Of course, I do not know the legal/financial problems involved.
Another interesting idea would be to have something about the plans for
the additional seasons. A common complaint of true GI fans is that the show
ended and they have "no more." I think both of these additions would spark
purchases of any new DVDs.
Also, would you happen to know if it is possible to obtain a script, or at
least copies of some of the song lyrics from the GI musical? If so, how?
Many fans are very interested in the musical but it has played in only a few
towns over the years. Thanks!!!
Harold Hecuba 04-21-2007, 04:00 PM I believe the script for the musical is available through Samuel French Inc.
I doubt that the 'Stern' clip is in the running since we want this to be something that is family oriented.
I'm unaware of the 'All My Children' segment.
I will ask Sherwood or Lloyd about 'The Help' at some point. Sounds very funny. I also will ask him if he had any storylines for the unmade next season. That's an interesting thought.
Thanks for all your interest.
Harold Hecuba 04-23-2007, 10:04 PM Hi,
This is the 'So Called Working With Lloyd Schwartz' guy. I was just speaking to the 'So Called Father of Lloyd who created the so called series' and he said that 'The Help' was never produced. The idea was that it would take place in the home of a wealthy couple and the characters would be the domestics in the house(and you'd never actually see the couple). He didn't mention Phil Silvers but he said that he had Sheldon Leonard in mind for the chauffer.
gilligan fanatic 04-24-2007, 10:07 AM Hi,
This is the 'So Called Working With Lloyd Schwartz' guy. I was just speaking to the 'So Called Father of Lloyd who created the so called series' and he said that 'The Help' was never produced. The idea was that it would take place in the home of a wealthy couple and the characters would be the domestics in the house(and you'd never actually see the couple). He didn't mention Phil Silvers but he said that he had Sheldon Leonard in mind for the chauffer.
Thanks for the info, that is to bad it wasn't made. Sounds like it could be fun and zanny like GI. I am suprised about Sheldon Leonard, everything I have seen with him acting is high drama. That would have been interesting to see the behind the scenes of the show since Sheldon Leonard was doing Andy Griffith and Dick Van Dyke at the time the book said the pilot was made. Again, thanks for asking about it for me.
Hi! This is good news! As far as added features go, it would be great for
fans to be able to have clips from some of the TV shows such as "Baywatch,"
"All My Children," "Howard Stern," etc. that featured GI themes and skits.
It may be difficult for fans to obtain these at this point, especially if it
involved purchasing other, unwanted episodes of other shows in a set.
Of course, I do not know the legal/financial problems involved.
Another interesting idea would be to have something about the plans for
the additional seasons. A common complaint of true GI fans is that the show
ended and they have "no more." I think both of these additions would spark
purchases of any new DVDs.
Also, would you happen to know if it is possible to obtain a script, or at
least copies of some of the song lyrics from the GI musical? If so, how?
Many fans are very interested in the musical but it has played in only a few
towns over the years. Thanks!!!
I agree with Harold Hecuba about the family theme. I have the Howard Stern interview and it is very different. You could tell Bob Denver was very uncomfortable being there. This was made about 2 years after Alan Hale passed away and Howard Stern jokes about the castaways eating him. I had to turn it off after that.
"Mr. So Called Working With Lloyd Schwartz Guy": JUST WHO ARE YOU REALLY???
I think you are being kind of rude to our guest, he is trying to help us fans out and you are treating him like an imposter.
gilligan fanatic 04-24-2007, 03:27 PM Gilligan Fanatic, don't be so quick to judge!
It's funny how you are ready to help "this so called working with Lloyd Schwartz guy" with donating your bootleg videos. (Not that they would be able to use any of your video copies to begin with as they are bootlegs and they are copyrighted & they have nothing to do with the reunion films.)
I know he couldn't use my copies, I just thought that before they purchased the rights to something it would be in there best intrest to preview something first. Nothing I have is copied from a Studio Released DVD or VHS, they are all recorded from the TV.
He mentioned extras, to quote him this is what he said.
In any case, I gather that fans liked the GI DVDs that Warner put out but were less than satisfied with the extras
I wanted to help you but you bugged me, I was gone for about three weeks and you accused me of being a selfish GI fan, in reality I have a life out side this board, I can't come here every day to respond to people like you.
Yet when anybody else asks you for copies for personal viewing, you can't be bothered!
I am a full time student with a job, I can't always be here. Like I said, I wanted to help you but you bugged me. You can't even hold on for a few days.
Also this "this so called working with Lloyd Schwartz guy" is not trying to help any of us. "This person" only posted what he posted because he needs us to help him for his own benefit.
Just call him by his username Harold Hecuba.
If this rumor turns out to be legit, "he is not helping us". He is out to make money from us!
I have already contacted someone who is really involved in the picture who will shed some light on this rumor. STAY TUNED...
That is very bad to say something like that without backing it up. You have no proof he isn't working with them. You have no proof of anything. No evidence, just talk. Many people from DVD companies come here. A user at the DVD board here has talked about the My Favorite Martian DVD's
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=177816
I have been at Sitcoms Online for about 6 years and this isn't something new for legitmate people to come here for fan input.
TV DVD Fan 04-24-2007, 04:02 PM Gilligan Fanatic, don't be so quick to judge!
It's funny how you are ready to help "this so called working with Lloyd Schwartz guy" with donating your bootleg videos. (Not that they would be able to use any of your video copies to begin with as they are bootlegs and they are copyrighted & they have nothing to do with the reunion films.)
Yet when anybody else asks you for copies for personal viewing, you can't be bothered!
Also this "this so called working with Lloyd Schwartz guy" is not trying to help any of us. "This person" only posted what he posted because he needs us to help him for his own benefit. If this rumor turns out to be legit, "he is not helping us". He is out to make money from us!
I have already contacted someone who is really involved in the picture who will shed some light on this rumor. STAY TUNED...
Before I start, let me just say to Harold Hecuba that all of us true fans really appreciate what you're doing for us and I cannot wait for this to happen! After a more than disappointing DVD month, finally it looks like there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Now then, Jack77, you have been nothing but downright rude on this entire thread, FIRST to our guest and then to our forum veteran GilliganFanatic. We're all willing to give Harold Hecuba the benefit of the doubt, so why the hell are you so paranoid about the whole situation? Are you always like this, thinking that strangers are always bad people, without forming a rationalized judgment of them first? It's childish, disrespectful, and rude. I've never seen such cruelty on these boards then you just bashing 2 of our forum members. And don't worry, I will STAY TUNED... to see what your "proof" will be... because right now it seems the only proof you'd have would be "because I said so."
Harold Hecuba, I'd love to see brand new interviews with the cast, documentaries, commentaries, all of the movies and subsequent series (as many episodes as possible), bloopers, deleted scenes, the afore-mentioned ideas for season four, maybe a few little featurettes on show popularity, collectibles, etc., as well as photo galleries, footage from the TVLand Awards featuring the cast, and lost footage (show promos, plugs, guest appearances by the cast, etc.). And a heartfelt thank you for all the effort you're putting into this project.
Pat
Harold Hecuba 04-24-2007, 04:54 PM Actually Jack 77 is right. I am trying to find out what you, the fans would like to see as DVD extras. If I'm able to use your suggestions then, with any luck, you'll buy a DVD and then I'll make money off of you ; ) .
Come to think of it, Sherwood Schwartz was trying to make money off of all of you by creating GI in the first place. AND YOU ALL FELL FOR IT! BWAAAAAHHHHAAAA!
I thank you GF and others for the well wishes. It sounds like we are all on the same page as far as what we'd like this thing to look like. I'd like to stress that this thing is very much in the planning stages and we don't know for sure what's going to happen yet. Many stars all have to cross before this becomes a reality, all involving rights and clearances.
Harold Hecuba 04-25-2007, 01:18 AM Out of morbid curiosity I must ask this. Which is it that makes you bristle, the idea that I may not really work with the Schwartzes or the idea that I do but I just want to make money off of you?
Please say hello to your source connected with the picture.
Bonsai 04-25-2007, 11:30 AM I'm also a bit confused why this is such an issue. Like HH, I don't know why "making money off of us" is suposed to be wrong or evil. I'm sure the Schwartzes want us fans to be happy and enjoy GI, but projects don't happen unless you can exploit a demand, cover expenses, and make enough profit for it to be worth your while. I'm happy for them if they were blessed with having a new angle on this after all these years and don't blame them at all for using avenues that are essentially free. If anyone's ever seen the kind of fees that market research demands, you'd do the same.
I'm also unsure why it matters so much who HH is. WE certainly aren't involved in a project with the Schwartzes, so there is no way we can be cheated. If he's a fake, then he's someone who is getting amusement by posing. That would be a little sad, but also there would be no harm in allowing a little amusement into his life. Also, in the end, we would be left with good ideas and discussion that could be passed on at some point in the future. If HH is on the level, then we may wind up having some great special features.
In any case, HH has been nothing but nice and gracious. I'd be happy to give some of the money I make from "exploiting" people who desire my professional services to allow him and the Schwartzes to "exploit" me. :lol:
An 80s Guy 04-25-2007, 11:55 AM Gilligan Fanatic, don't be so quick to judge!
It's funny how you are ready to help "this so called working with Lloyd Schwartz guy" with donating your bootleg videos. (Not that they would be able to use any of your video copies to begin with as they are bootlegs and they are copyrighted & they have nothing to do with the reunion films.)
Yet when anybody else asks you for copies for personal viewing, you can't be bothered!
Also this "this so called working with Lloyd Schwartz guy" is not trying to help any of us. "This person" only posted what he posted because he needs us to help him for his own benefit. If this rumor turns out to be legit, "he is not helping us". He is out to make money from us!
I have already contacted someone who is really involved in the picture who will shed some light on this rumor. STAY TUNED...
Jeez get your crap together before you catch an attitude.It's only bootlegged if he buys it not if he tapes it off television or trades for it.If taping things is illegal than most of the country would be behind bars.This is what the VCR was made for in the first place.
mrs.gingerhinkley 04-25-2007, 05:04 PM the emotion the drama!
oh... this thread is getting interesting...
I'd never imagine we were talking about GI...
.....
such drama...
oh my.
mrs.gingerhinkley 04-25-2007, 05:06 PM btw...
i refuse to take sides...
:lol:
*goes back to watching GI like a good little girl*
Harold Hecuba 04-26-2007, 02:05 AM Steering the topic away from whether or not I'm me, because you all basically have have been so nice and helpful I thought I'd elaborate a little bit on what's going on.
First of all, as you know, many terrible versions of 'Rescue' have come out on DVD and VHS over the years. The reason for this is that while Mr. Schwartz owned the film outright he failed to register the copyright or put a copyright notice at the end of it. (SFX: sound of Mr. Schwartz kicking himself)
Then when the film went into syndication someone must have found this out and the rest, sadly, is history. What Mr. Schwartz does own are the original film elements and only he can sell a quality version of the film.
The problem is that people bought those cruddy PD versions(which can't be stopped) so as far as the marketplace is concerned, 'Rescue' has already been released on DVD. This makes distributors and retailers much less interested in that title by itself , even a vastly superior version of it. What they are interested in is a collection of at least two titles. This is in effect a different title from 'Rescue' as far as the marketplace goes.
But, other entitles own the rights to the other titles. Turner owns the rights to the cartoons. Universal owns the rights to 'Globetrotters'. The video rights to 'Castaways' are tricky and will be figured out soon, although Universal owns the broadcast and clip licensing rights to it.
Warner, Turner's parent company, has no plans to release either animated series(and has many other animated series in line ahead) and is open to sublicensing them. Universal, in all likelihood, would not release 'Globetrotters' themselves but we're still waiting to hear from them about sublicensing it. And 'Castaways' is still being examined. We're lucky that Warner is open to sublicensing because in the worst cases, the big studios have been known to simply horde titles from other distributors and the public alike.
So between budget, rights, and distributor interest, there's a lot of variables here but rest assured we are actively trying to make this happen in some configuration.
On a less aggravating note, I had wonderful conversations this week with Gerald Fried, Les Brown Jr, and Nehemiah Persoff (who, like Mr. Schwartz, is alive and well) all of whom were amenable to participating in the project if the occasion presents itself.
Thanks again for the interest and well wishes.
The Flying Dutchmans 04-26-2007, 08:31 PM Yes I agree HH on the bad copies of rescue I have several wal mart copys I bought for a dollar each.
I do not suppose it would be legal to include a copy of the Baywatch episode just sit right back would it? I know it only included Gilligan and Mary ann in it, but its still GI material, and then there was that episode on rosanne that included Bob Dawn Russel and Tina, but that was only at the end.
Harold Hecuba 04-26-2007, 09:03 PM It would be perfectly legal if the companies that owned those shows licensed the episodes for us to use.
gilligan fanatic 04-27-2007, 08:58 PM Steering the topic away from whether or not I'm me, because you all basically have have been so nice and helpful I thought I'd elaborate a little bit on what's going on.
First of all, as you know, many terrible versions of 'Rescue' have come out on DVD and VHS over the years. The reason for this is that while Mr. Schwartz owned the film outright he failed to register the copyright or put a copyright notice at the end of it. (SFX: sound of Mr. Schwartz kicking himself)
Then when the film went into syndication someone must have found this out and the rest, sadly, is history. What Mr. Schwartz does own are the original film elements and only he can sell a quality version of the film.
The problem is that people bought those cruddy PD versions(which can't be stopped) so as far as the marketplace is concerned, 'Rescue' has already been released on DVD. This makes distributors and retailers much less interested in that title by itself , even a vastly superior version of it. What they are interested in is a collection of at least two titles. This is in effect a different title from 'Rescue' as far as the marketplace goes.
But, other entitles own the rights to the other titles. Turner owns the rights to the cartoons. Universal owns the rights to 'Globetrotters'. The video rights to 'Castaways' are tricky and will be figured out soon, although Universal owns the broadcast and clip licensing rights to it.
Warner, Turner's parent company, has no plans to release either animated series(and has many other animated series in line ahead) and is open to sublicensing them. Universal, in all likelihood, would not release 'Globetrotters' themselves but we're still waiting to hear from them about sublicensing it. And 'Castaways' is still being examined. We're lucky that Warner is open to sublicensing because in the worst cases, the big studios have been known to simply horde titles from other distributors and the public alike.
So between budget, rights, and distributor interest, there's a lot of variables here but rest assured we are actively trying to make this happen in some configuration.
On a less aggravating note, I had wonderful conversations this week with Gerald Fried, Les Brown Jr, and Nehemiah Persoff (who, like Mr. Schwartz, is alive and well) all of whom were amenable to participating in the project if the occasion presents itself.
Thanks again for the interest and well wishes.
With Les Brown Jr still living I wonder if the the Wellingtons are still around, it would be kind of neat to have a Mosqutioes reunion.
mrs.gingerhinkley 04-27-2007, 11:56 PM With Les Brown Jr still living I wonder if the the Wellingtons are still around, it would be kind of neat to have a Mosqutioes reunion.
*goes hysterical like a hysterical, teenage, girl fanatic,
"OH THE MOSQUITOES!"*
so sry...
that would be awesome...
:D
i like all the ideas...
i'd especially like to see the rosanne episode!
i used to watch Rosanne all of the time!
:D ;)
Harold Hecuba 04-28-2007, 01:59 AM Kirby Johnson (Irving) died. The other two are still alive.
gilligan fanatic 04-28-2007, 09:13 AM Kirby Johnson (Irving) died. The other two are still alive.
That's to bad. That gets me thinking on another documentary like what happened to all the behind the scenes people. Gerald Fried could be in it that way.
Here is another question I have, since you knew about the Wellingtons, are any of the Eligibles still alive?
Big3sCompanyFan 04-28-2007, 10:57 AM That would be great to see more Gilligan's Island DVDs out there and other memoribilia too.
Any lost episodes out there??
TV DVD Fan 04-28-2007, 11:14 AM That would be great to see more Gilligan's Island DVDs out there and other memoribilia too.
Any lost episodes out there??
The only one we probably all know about has been found--- the unaired pilot that Sherwood made sure was included on the first DVD volume of Gilligan. Season 1 was probably the best and most methodically planned out set that Warner put out for GI (so far).
gilligan fanatic 04-28-2007, 11:16 AM That would be great to see more Gilligan's Island DVDs out there and other memoribilia too.
Any lost episodes out there??
Nope, all episodes are out there. The pilot was missing for some time, but it was found about 15 years ago. In Inside Gilligan's Island Sherwood Schwartz said he presented different versions of the pilot by editing different scenes down because CBS wanted it a certain way so I believe there are multiple edits of the pilot. The scene where Gilligan reels in all those fishes was added after the pilot was shot. I think Sherwood Schwartz said that he just kept using the same footage to make it longer. I wonder what happened to the first version that CBS turned down?
gilligan fanatic 04-28-2007, 11:19 AM The only one we probably all know about has been found--- the unaired pilot that Sherwood made sure was included on the first DVD volume of Gilligan. Season 1 was probably the best and most methodically planned out set that Warner put out for GI (so far).
LOL
I still can't get over how terrible that documentary is in the season 3 DVD. Also they didn't change the box. I remember everyone here freaking out when we thougt there was a problem with disc 3.
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=146303&highlight=Son
Harold Hecuba 04-28-2007, 12:25 PM I don't know. I only know about the Wellingtons because Les told me.
TV DVD Fan 04-29-2007, 12:50 AM LOL
I still can't get over how terrible that documentary is in the season 3 DVD. Also they didn't change the box. I remember everyone here freaking out when we thougt there was a problem with disc 3.
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=146303&highlight=Son
Yeah the well was running pretty dry apparently by that point for them to have included that. Yeah, I vaguely remember how alot of people were going crazy thinking there was a disc 3 problem. :crazy:
gilligan fanatic 04-29-2007, 10:58 AM I don't know. I only know about the Wellingtons because Les told me.
Oh, ok.
TV DVD Fan 05-04-2007, 10:37 PM I don't know what to believe anymore, but I do know this... Jack77, you're getting a little out of line now. Venom like that shouldn't be tolerated on this board. This isn't a hate-mail site, it's a site where fans of sitcoms come to meet other fans of sitcoms, and be friendly toward one another. "Hey, I like that show too!" It's babyish to rub it in Gilligan Fanatic's face about how big of a fan you are. Who cares, it's obvious you both love the show? Love it together! Please, try to get along, the petty arguments aren't getting us anywhere. And if nothing else, agree to disagree about who's the bigger fan. Just please don't post any of this stuff on the main board. Send each other PM's or something. When what you post only pertains to one or two people specifically, it doesn't belong on the forum. Remember, this thread is about a Gilligan DVD in the works.
Now, onto that... I still don't know who HH is, and I probably never will. I don't know anything about him, who he is or what his purpose on these boards are. But I trusted him, and as I said before, at this point I don't know who to trust. No offense Jack77, but how do we know that you're just not posting out of haste at this point, as clearly you're ticked off at 2 of the people who have posted so far in this thread (and by the time you've read this post, it'll probably be 3)? I'm torn... HH could be just like any other gimmicky, shady kind-of-guy who posts things on the Internet just for kicks that doesn't have any relevance in the real world. Jack77 could be posting out of haste like I suggested above, and just trying to "bust" HH under false pretenses. They could both be lying to us, and to an extent both be telling the truth. Maybe one of them has made a mistake in something they've said. I do know one thing however: This thread has become so full of venom and hatred that I can hardly stand to look at it anymore. Until I get an official announcement from a RELIABLE source (TSoD or The Digital Bits namely), I'm not buying into anything anymore. I refuse to be taking a part in the games that appear to be being played on this thread.
HH, incidentally, you seem to have become very quiet on this thread all of a sudden. Some rebuttal would be nice, just so we could see what you feel about all that has been going on in the past few days. Stick up for yourself, so we might feel more confident in trusting you. Otherwise, that'd make you a coward.
I'm not trying to be making any enemies here but I'm just trying to decide who to believe, and I'm not quite sure if I can ever believe anything that was said on this thread thus far--- until, like I said before, I see concrete evidence that a DVD is INDEED being released.
Pavan 05-04-2007, 11:46 PM Jack77: Why do you have a NYC RoadRunner IP? Sherwood is in LA. Harold has a DSL IP from California. Regardless, this is to stop now. Let Harold Hecuba speak. If you don't believe him, fine, but you don't have to bash him publicly.
Harold Hecuba 05-05-2007, 01:55 PM You know, I've got better things to do than engage in this kind of exchange(sorry if you think that's cowardly TVDVDF). To those of you who offered suggestions and well wishes, thank you. To those of you who question my sincerity and legitimacy, I couldn't care less. I'm also under no more obligation to reveal my real name than anyone else here who hasn't revealed theirs(i.e. everyone I've seen here), nor do I see what difference it makes.
Good day.
TV DVD Fan 05-05-2007, 09:08 PM HH, I said that I wasn't trying to gain any enemies, I just wanted this crap to stop. Jack77 questioned your authenticity, not me. I do NOT know you or him, so why the hell should I believe (or not) YOU anymore than I should believe or not believe him. As of this point, I'm wishing this thread was never even started. All's it has done was cause trouble, and if you weren't expecting any flack, then that was just naïve of you. You should've anticipated that someone would've questioned you and your motives (why you used a pseudonym instead of your own, your claiming to be a friend of the Schwartzes, etc.) And I wasn't calling you a coward. If you read CAREFULLY, I said you'd be a coward if you had nothing to defend yourself with (actually that would've made you a liar). All's I can say to everyone here is that a guilty conscience needs no accuser.
HH, Jack77--- you both have gotten me rather confused, and as I stated numerous times, I can't decide who to believe. Jack77 seems to be very confident in his claim to have seen Sherwood this Monday and HH seems to be very convincing as well with his demeanor. Jack77 may think you're a liar, HH, but I've formed no opinion of you yet (I have nothing to go by!). Jack77 was rude to you and that's no way for someone to treat somebody just for starting a simple thread on a message board (which later turned from simple to complex). Especially a new member to the board, new members are always encouraged! If I seemed to have prejudged you, accept my apology, but believe me that's not what I was going for. I'm just trying to make some sense of this mess in my mind! Jack77, I think you were rude to both GF and HH, but other than that I can't prejudge you and your claims either since, once again, I have nothing to go on. Right now your claims mean nothing to me, I have no proof that either one of you has any kind of relationship with Mr. Schwartz. I hope another GI DVD comes out, but as of this point, I'm not even treating it as a rumor. It's not on the radar for the public, so therefore, there's no reason to get the fans hope up for something that might not even ever come about!
TV DVD Fan 05-05-2007, 09:15 PM One last note...
Can a neutral party ask someone at Monday's HTF Warner TV DVD chat if there are currently any plans for a new GI DVD. That just may settle the score once and for all. Geez, all this drama just for a rumor.
Harold Hecuba 05-06-2007, 03:17 PM That won't settle anything TVDVDF because
A) Warner has no stake in any of the movies, only the cartoons and the original series.
B) I said, rather explicitly, that no deal had been made with a DVD distributor, only that it was being explored.
You've made no enemy TVDVDF, you seem okay. I'd certainly like to think that Jack77's interpersonal style(or lack thereof) would deter anyone from taking stock in anything he says but hey, to each his own.
Like I said, I have no further interest in whether or not anyone believes me. I got the information I was looking for and now we'll all just have to wait and see what happens.
Harold Hecuba 05-06-2007, 03:28 PM Incidentally Jack77, if you really are friendly enough with Mr. Schwartz to visit him at his house (although we'd all be interested to know how you know him. I at least gave a context) it's rather gauche of you to discuss his health on an internet message board, something that should be a private matter. Especially considering that what you said about it is 1000 percent FALSE.
mrs.gingerhinkley 05-06-2007, 03:46 PM good grief.
please, this is the GILLIGAN'S ISLAND board. u know what Mr. Shwartz wanted to convey through this wonderful show?! THAT PEOPLE CAN LEARN TO LIVE TOGETHER!
geesh.
not taking sides.
but please, settle your differences and stop this bickering and madness.
this is very sad...:(
TV DVD Fan 05-06-2007, 06:12 PM good grief.
please, this is the GILLIGAN'S ISLAND board. u know what Mr. Shwartz wanted to convey through this wonderful show?! THAT PEOPLE CAN LEARN TO LIVE TOGETHER!
geesh.
not taking sides.
but please, settle your differences and stop this bickering and madness.
this is very sad...:(
I enthusiastically agree. Thanks HH for clearing that issue up. For a while I thought you were angry with me, because I probably did goof up somewhere in my writings and make it seem like I thought you were fake. I don't think that at all. Like I said, I just want to stay neutral at this point, as I don't want any more fighting to ensue here. And NO MATTER WHAT, no matter how sincere any of this is or anything, this DVD is, like you said, only under "construction," in a sense. Nothing's concrete or set in stone, and this whole thing can blow up right in front of our faces and the pre-tentative plans could be nixed. Let's forget any of this controvery ever happened, OK, and maybe Maryann can fix us some coconut cream pies and we can put on a show--- HAMLET, perhaps?
Keep us posted if anything else comes up, if you'd be so kind, HH.
mrs.gingerhinkley 05-07-2007, 07:32 AM OK, and maybe Maryann can fix us some coconut cream pies and we can put on a show--- HAMLET, perhaps?
here here!
:D
cause, this not amusing anymore...
anyone who is tired of this nonsense, join me and let us post on happier more castaway like treads!
:D
TV DVD Fan 05-07-2007, 04:39 PM here here!
:D
cause, this not amusing anymore...
anyone who is tired of this nonsense, join me and let us post on happier more castaway like treads!
:D
:) :lol: I loved that picture. Thanks for posting it to match up with my post!
mrs.gingerhinkley 05-07-2007, 04:50 PM :) :lol: I loved that picture. Thanks for posting it to match up with my post!
ANYTIME!
a very great picture indeed.
i am glad there is someone out there on the board besides me that is tired of this bickering!
and luvs the light-hearted side of GI!
:D
TV DVD Fan 05-07-2007, 10:27 PM ANYTIME!
a very great picture indeed.
i am glad there is someone out there on the board besides me that is tired of this bickering!
and luvs the light-hearted side of GI!
:D
Ah, yes--- just think how tough those castaways must've had it--- yet they often seem happy to all be together like one big happy family--- even if they're miles away from civilization!
mrs.gingerhinkley 05-08-2007, 09:04 PM Ah, yes--- just think how tough those castaways must've had it--- yet they often seem happy to all be together like one big happy family--- even if they're miles away from civilization!
i couldn't agree more...
so, if anyone else likes the happy side of these message boards... i'm gonna start a role playing thread... so everyone chose a castaway, and away we'll go!
:D
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