AB
03-29-2007, 04:51 PM
They thought Nicki & Paulo were dead so they buried them. Do you think they
will get dug up before its too late? This was a weird episode.
will get dug up before its too late? This was a weird episode.
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View Full Version : Buried Alive AB 03-29-2007, 04:51 PM They thought Nicki & Paulo were dead so they buried them. Do you think they will get dug up before its too late? This was a weird episode. robyrob 03-29-2007, 05:06 PM i dooont think so - we have no idea how many times Paulo got stung by those spiders, he could be out for DAYS the girl... i dunno, but i'm thinkin she DAED. AB 03-29-2007, 05:12 PM Her eyes came open when they started throwing the dirt on her but Sawyer didn't notice. Man what a way to go. Janice 03-29-2007, 05:18 PM I took it as they were buried alive and died. Has this couple been around much? I don't recall them. This episode bored me to tears, but that ending sure perked me up, lol. AB 03-29-2007, 05:32 PM They tried to make it seem like they'd been around all the time. Janice 03-30-2007, 12:18 PM They tried to make it seem like they'd been around all the time. I noticed that too. It was bizarre. It got interesting once we learned how they died or whatever, but beyond that, I didn't care one bit about the characters. I don't like to see anyone meet that nasty end, but they were cold blooded killers, so I didn't care about them one way or the other. To me, it felt like a wasted episode. I don't know what the writers are thinking this season, or if they're even thinking at all, lol. I hated last fall's episodes, and like only a handful of this batch. I know a few people who have stopped watching....my brother, my stepson, my husband's friend, and a member from SO. newwavepop 03-30-2007, 12:19 PM i missed last weeks episode does anyone know a place to watch it or download it online? ive been seeing that couple in the background all season wondering who they are,me and my girlfriend kept thinking she was kate, tan girl with wavy brown hair i dont know to many people on here robyrob 03-30-2007, 12:22 PM well, it was better than a clip show or a rerun, and at least we got to see Shannon and Boone again (who else made cameos?) Buffyboy323 03-30-2007, 10:47 PM well, it was better than a clip show or a rerun, and at least we got to see Shannon and Boone again (who else made cameos?) I was practically on my feet when I heard Shannon. Even before they showed her, I knew that voice. She's one of my favorite characters from the whole show. I hope we see more of her in upcoming episodes. It was also good to see Boone, Arntz, and Ethan again. Buffyboy323 03-30-2007, 10:52 PM They thought Nicki & Paulo were dead so they buried them. Do you think they will get dug up before its too late? This was a weird episode. Well, like Locke said in the beginning, nothing stays buried on the island!.....Both the actors are moving on to new shows this fall, but they will probably be back sometime next season for an episode or 2, to wrap up their storyline. Buffyboy323 03-30-2007, 11:09 PM i dooont think so - we have no idea how many times Paulo got stung by those spiders, he could be out for DAYS the girl... i dunno, but i'm thinkin she DAED. Nikki opened her eyes, while they were burrying (sp?) her. Earlier in the episode, they said if your bit by one of those spiders, your body goes numb for 8 hours. They also said something about being bit on the spine. Paulo was bit on the back of his neck, which probably led to his spine. He was still alive......I think they are still alive....for now anyway. That's why they kept showing their faces, which was a bit creepy. They were awake through everything, their bodies were just numb. Buffyboy323 03-30-2007, 11:17 PM I took it as they were buried alive and died. Has this couple been around much? I don't recall them. This episode bored me to tears, but that ending sure perked me up, lol. They've been there all season long. Since the 3rd or 4th episode, at least. The ending was great. I actually loved the whole episode. Buffyboy323 03-30-2007, 11:23 PM They tried to make it seem like they'd been around all the time. I loved how they recreated all those old scenes. It was very well done......What I found interesting about these two is that they found the pearl station, and the yellow plane, before anyone else did.....And not to mention that Paulo heard the plan about Jack, Kate, and Sawyer. Even worse, he knew Michael would lead them into a trap, and didn't say anything! He really was a messed up person!....Then again, everyone on the island is. Janice 03-30-2007, 11:51 PM They've been there all season long. Since the 3rd or 4th episode, at least. The ending was great. I actually loved the whole episode. Have they ever had any lines before this week? Mr. Television 03-31-2007, 12:18 AM Have they ever had any lines before this week? Yea they were on a few episodes. They never made much of an impression though. :lol: I never liked them and I'm glad they're gone but I did like the episode. I like how they recreated the scenes putting them in the scene of all the action. Pavan 03-31-2007, 12:19 AM Have they ever had any lines before this week? Yeah, but not much. They went in the Pearl station with Locke and them, remember? Also, Sawyer said to Nikki, "who the hell are you?" a few weeks back when she was talking, lol. Mr. Television 03-31-2007, 12:28 AM Yeah, but not much. They went in the Pearl station with Locke and them, remember? Also, Sawyer said to Nikki, "who the hell are you?" a few weeks back when she was talking, lol. Sawyer said that to Nikki a few times on the last show too. That always cracked me up. :lol: Janice 03-31-2007, 12:43 AM I never noticed either of one of them before. When Lost opened up this week, we thought we had on the wrong channel, lol. I just can't get excited about an episode about unknown characters. I was all over the web, and everyone's saying the same thing. Who were they, and who cares? What's up with that? Who's bright idea was that? I didn't care about them, the diamonds or the fact that they died. Talk about a filler episode. It was almost like watching a show I'd never watched before. It's episodes like this that are turning viewers away. I didn't realize until I sought out some message boards that a lot of people are really really disgusted with Lost. Some of the posts had me howling. I just hope the show can get its act together before it crashes and burns like that plane on the beach. :lol: Buffyboy323 03-31-2007, 03:11 AM I never noticed either of one of them before. When Lost opened up this week, we thought we had on the wrong channel, lol. I just can't get excited about an episode about unknown characters. I was all over the web, and everyone's saying the same thing. Who were they, and who cares? What's up with that? Who's bright idea was that? I didn't care about them, the diamonds or the fact that they died. Talk about a filler episode. It was almost like watching a show I'd never watched before. It's episodes like this that are turning viewers away. I didn't realize until I sought out some message boards that a lot of people are really really disgusted with Lost. Some of the posts had me howling. I just hope the show can get its act together before it crashes and burns like that plane on the beach. :lol: Well I'm sure people knew who they were. And they were in a very important episode last fall, dealing with the pearl station...And their names have been billed with the main cast, since the season 3 premiere. I don't think Lost is bad at all. I don't agree with all those people not liking it and turning away from it. The loyal fans will stick with it no matter what.....I do however agree with the huge aount of people that have bashed and turned away from Grey`s Anatomy. That show sucks now. Talk about jumping the shark! But that's a whole other conversation.......One thing about Lost is, you either are really into it, and crazy about it, or you don't like it. Janice 03-31-2007, 11:09 AM Well I'm sure people knew who they were. And they were in a very important episode last fall, dealing with the pearl station...And their names have been billed with the main cast, since the season 3 premiere. And I'm sure that many people were scratching their heads and asking, "Who are these people, and why am I supposed to care about them?" Google Lost and you can read about it yourself. I don't think Lost is bad at all. I don't agree with all those people not liking it and turning away from it. The loyal fans will stick with it no matter what.....I do however agree with the huge aount of people that have bashed and turned away from Grey`s Anatomy. That show sucks now. Talk about jumping the shark! But that's a whole other conversation.......One thing about Lost is, you either are really into it, and crazy about it, or you don't like it. So you only agree if people hate a show if you hate it too. Alrighty, lol. Stick with it no matter what? What's that about? Are you related to people connected to the show? There were no more loyal Lost fans going than me and my husband. Loyalty has nothing to do with it. They show at least six episodes with the same three cast members in cages, devote an episode to Jack's stupid tattoo, and another to two background characters. They should change the name of show to "The Others." Better yet, "Lost" fits the show perfectly, since that's how its viewers feel after watching an episode. I've enjoyed three episodes this season. I'm watching it once more, then I'm probably joining the ranks of the other four million disgusted viewers who threw in the towel this season. The show's in freefall, so enjoy it while you can. Thanks ABC for blowing a once great show. :wave: Buffyboy323 03-31-2007, 01:16 PM ^ Well Ana Lucia, Libby, and Eko were in the credits before they started appearing in episodes too. It`s not about siding with people who no longer like shows that I no longer like either. That show has been bad for a year already. 6 episodes in nothing....And since your claiming that you and your husband are loyal Lost fans, I find it odd that you would just quit watching. But of course, everyone has their own opinion. And well yeah. This is the year of The Others. Like last year spent a lot of time on The Tailies. The show is different every year. I'm sure if you stick through this, you will love the show again. By the end of this season, the show will turn into something else....again. Janice 03-31-2007, 08:37 PM I don't think giving up on a show that you don't enjoy watching is being disloyal. It's common sense really. I actually got angry after this week's episode....thinking, how dare they serve up this BS to the viewers. It was a total nonsense episode. I don't enjoy losing interest in Lost. It really bothers me if you want the truth. The first season we rented and watched eight episodes a night for three nights. Season two was well underway, so I had to wait until it was over, and I managed to get that season before it was available on DVD. It was another marathon, so we could be all caught up for season three. I'm just disappointed. I'm the type of person who won't miss a single episode of a show if I like it. The HBO shows are a good example. We've seen every single episode of Sex And The City, Curb Your Enthusiam, The Sopranos, Rome, Big Love, Lucky Louie, Entourage, etc. I become invested in shows, and I take the good with the bad. I'm trying my hardest with Lost, but it's getting more difficult. I've never missed an episode, but I know I don't look forward to the show anymore. I'm not a fair weathered fan. Sorry this was so long, lol. Céline 03-31-2007, 10:30 PM I was very desespointed by this episode too.I recalled this couple but,who cares really?There's enough of characters already!!!I will stick with the show because,I watched it since the beginning and I'm curious to see how it will end. Mr. Television 04-01-2007, 01:21 AM Spoilers are included in this article. Read at your own risk. LOL Lost Thursdays: Season Three, Ep. 14: "Exposé" By Andrew Dignan“The universe has a way of course correcting and -- and I can't stop it forever.” -- Desmond Hume (Henry Ian Cusick) _____________________ And that’s the end of that. Last night we said farewell, I hope, to the worst idea in the history of a series that’s given us “the magic box,” a couple of polar bears on a tropical island, and entire episodes dedicated to Rose and Bernard and Ana Lucia. I am, of course, referring to the presumed passing of the much derided Nikki and Paulo, a couple of photogenic Cousin Olivers, uncomfortably shoehorned into the Lost universe last fall, instantly earning the scorn of the show’s fans across the world. Two “red shirts” if ever there were ones, Nikki (Kylie Sanchez) and Paulo (Rodrigo Santoro) represented the show at its absolute laziest. Desperate to replace the void on the beach created by actor exits (Cynthia Watros, Rodriguez, Harold Perrineau) and plot necessity (the abduction of Jack, Sawyer and Kate), the producers clumsily dropped two attractive but bland characters into the middle of a highly exclusive setting and prayed no one would notice. Unprepared for the immediate backlash, the show froze in its tracks. Afraid to enrage fans further, the show seemed to go out of its way to ignore Nikki and Paulo, affording them less than a combined two dozen lines over the course of the first 13 episodes of the third season, quickly reducing them to walk-ons. Yet all along, show runners Carlton Cuse and Damon Lindelof assured fans that there was a master plan for the characters that would justify all the hand-wringing. If last night’s episode was any indication of how the show plans on executing its future “master plans,” we’re in for a long ride. “Exposé” (from the writing team of Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz) swept Nikki and Paulo under the carpet like dust-bunnies, confirming that yes, these were the two worst characters in history before giving into fan bloodlust and literally burying them alive. The episode seemed dedicated to rectifying earlier mistakes and appeasing critics at the expense of narrative advancement, in a sense creating fan fiction with a multi-million dollar budget. Like much fan fiction, the episode was peppered with self-aware humor, frequently commenting upon its own artifice. Beginning with an Alias-like scenario the finds Nikki half naked and clinging to a stripper pole only to segue into a back-office shoot-out, it's revealed that we’re on the set of a cheesy Australian TV show where Nikki is a bit player (har har) who’s just been killed off. She’s even reassured by her director/much older lover (Jacob Witkin) that her character can be written back into the show, and if that Charlie Kaufman-esque stab at post-modernism (mirrored in the episode’s closing seconds) doesn’t scare the living daylights out of you than nothing on this show will. Nikki is no mere ingénue however. Like seemingly half the cast of Lost, she's actually a con-artist, working with boy toy Paulo to murder her director-lover and rob him of several millions of dollars worth of diamonds. And they would have gotten away with it if it weren’t for that meddling airplane accident. It’s here the show falls into a self-defeating bit of revisionist history, inserting these human afterthoughts into some of the show’s greatest hits (the chaotic moments following the crash, Jack’s “live together, die alone” speech on day six, etc…) Forrest Gump-style as well as, more ominously, depicting them stumbling across the Nigerian airplane that killed Boone and the Pearl station before everyone else. The show retroactively justifies these incongruities by placing their discoveries amidst a covert search of the jungle for their missing luggage (containing, of course, stolen diamonds). Yet more than anything, these moments vindicate fans who never trusted the duo in the first place. As the rest of the castaways struggle to carve a new life from their exotic surroundings, Nikki and Paulo cling to the futile hopes of sailing off into the sunset, rich beyond their wildest dreams, scheming against one another over shiny trinkets that have no value on the island. Not only did these two characters stunt the progress of their fellow survivors, they actually placed them in mortal danger by remaining silent all this time (we witness a scene from Paulo’s point of view where Ben and Juliet conspire together, a moment that can be directly linked to the fatal shootings at the end of last season). The upside to this trip down memory lane is it finds the show dedicated to slavishly recreating some of the series’ most visually dazzling moments at untold cost (more than two years later, the staging of the crash site is still terrifying) and taking us back to a time when all of these characters seemed flush with possibilities. But really, isn’t that what clip shows are for? I’ll admit to feeling pangs of nostalgia at the sight of bickering step-siblings Shannon and Boone (Maggie Grace and Ian Somerhalder hiding under wigs) back from the grave, but does this show really need another excuse to travel back down its own rabbit hole? In a fate befitting their greed, Nikki and Paulo doom one another to a fiendish demise Quentin Tarantino would no doubt approve of. After finding the diamonds and going to great lengths to keep them hidden, even stashing them in the toilet of the Pearl (a nod to the character’s internet nickname of “Takes a **** Guy?”), Paulo’s deception is discovered by Nikki who devises a Hitchockian-ploy to exact revenge. With the help of a poisonous “Medusa spider” (gathered by Daniel Roebuck’s Azrt in a nice callback), Nikki temporarily paralyzes Paulo (we’re told the toxin is effective for up to eight hours), retrieving the stones from his person but not before falling victim herself to a swarm of arachnids. The episode is intentionally misleading in this respect, as we’re told earlier in the hour the pheromones of this particular spider will attract every mate for miles. Yet over the soundtrack we hear the familiar clucking and shuffling (which fittingly enough has always reminded me of the sound the Medusa made in Clash of the Titans) of the island’s “security system.” Whether she, like Eko, was felled by a manifestation of her past transgressions our was simply careless with her spider hormones I will leave to the forums to decide. Bitten, and short on time, a fading Nikki buries the diamonds before racing out of the jungle and collapsing in front of Hurley (Jorge Garcia) and Sawyer (Josh Holloway), seemingly dead. With what appears to be a double homicide on its hands, the show reunites the dynamic duo of Hurley and Sawyer to play out a tropical island variation of the procedural, leading to many of the episode’s funnier moments. (After being told that he’s tampering with a “crime scene,” Sawyer cracks, “There a forensics hatch I don’t know about?”) With every able body chipping in to piece together what happened, the bodies of Nikki and Paulo lie in the island’s makeshift graveyard -- dead to the outside world, yet only hours away from their own resurrection. Oh, if only the castaways took the Anna Nicole Smith/James Brown approach to burial. Wasting no time at all, Nikki and Paulo are placed into the ground, awaiting their entombment, when Nikki’s eyes flutter open ala Bride of Frankenstein, just in time to eat a face full of dirt. As the mountain of earth placed atop them grows larger and larger, we breath a sigh of relief while at the same time remain ever-wary that at any given moment one or both characters could reenact the last scene of Carrie and usher in the era of “undead” Ken and Barbie on Lost. It’s almost a looming threat from the producers of the show should bloggers continue to antagonize them. “Don’t make us bring back Nikki and Paulo” is now to television what “Don’t make me turn this car around” is to road trips. To be honest, I can’t begrudge the show for “course correcting.” This was clearly a misguided attempt to introduce new story-lines into a show that’s over-stuffed at fifteen (now thirteen) regulars deep; not every new addition is going to be as captivating as Eko (Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje) or Ben Linus (Michael Emerson) so better to cut their losses now rather than letting the characters drag out indefinitely. Still I can’t help but take some small amount of responsibility for joining the screaming masses in asking for the removal of Nikki and Paulo; now that I’ve seemingly been acquiesced to I can’t help but wonder what role these characters might have played had they been given the time to reach their full potential. Or perhaps, in a way, they already have. The b-storyline of the hour involved Charlie (Dominic Monaghan) coming clean to Sun (Yoon-jin Kim) about his and Swayer’s role in her kidnapping attempt last year. It’s a nicely underplayed turn of events, lacking the expected histrionics and protracted drama I’d anticipated. Sun confronts Sawyer with the truth, but save for a slap to the face, she declines to make an issue of it. Sawyer is a thief and a liar, an opportunist scoundrel in the Snake Plissken/Han Solo mold. Ultimately, though, he has made the decision to follow Jack’s advice of living in harmony with the rest of the survivors, and I suspect Sun realizes, as we all do, that at this point Sawyer’s almost lovable. While Nikki and Paulo’s greed and distrust found them literally trying to kill one another, the hour finds Sawyer at his most civic-minded, volunteering to dig their grave and declining to give the distraught Nikki a handgun in order to maintain the peace. When given the choice between worldly riches and the trust of his fellow castaways, Sawyer picks the latter, depositing the “worthless” jewels in the open grave. If this really is goodbye for Nikki and Paulo, I send them down the river Styx with a nod of gratitude. On a show with adulterers, addicts, murderers, escaped convicts, thieves and egomaniacs, they’ve reminded us of how much worse things could have been; those people could have been petty and dull as well. posted by Andrew Dignan at 10:00 AM Janice 04-01-2007, 11:38 AM Thanks for posting that Sonny. It was an interesting read. I feel like I'm crazy though because it says everyone wanted them gone. I didn't even know they were there. :lol: Pentimento 04-01-2007, 01:03 PM The ending was great. I actually loved the whole episode.It looks like I'm in the minority here, too, but I liked the episode. I knew we were in for something different when there was no "Previously..." segment at the beginning, and I thought it was well done for what it was: an interlude of comic relief (albeit dark comedy) following weeks of occasionally tedious high drama. It was obviously done tongue-in-cheek, and I thought it was funny to see a pair of minor characters casually stumbling across parts of the island that we'd seen previously in much more exciting, intense and pivotal circumstances, as well as the fact that they were so focused on their own quest that they completely discounted discoveries that Locke and the others would later regard as crucially significant. Then the macabre surprise ending, reminiscent of a classic "Twilight Zone" or "Tales from the Crypt", seemed like a perfect way to end it. Seeing some of the departed characters was a nice bonus as well. While it's true that it didn't advance the story at all or focus on the main characters much, as a stand-alone episode I found it entertaining and a pleasant change of mood from the usual danger, deceit and despair. Buffyboy323 04-02-2007, 05:54 AM I thought it was well done for what it was: an interlude of comic relief (albeit dark comedy) following weeks of occasionally tedious high drama. While it's true that it didn't advance the story at all or focus on the main characters much, as a stand-alone episode I found it entertaining and a pleasant change of mood from the usual danger, deceit and despair. I want answers, as does every other fan of the show, but I thought it felt good this week to just sit back and enjoy the hour, rather than watching the episode a few times, and trying to figure everything out/putting all the pieces together, and looking for clues in the background. It was a nice break from that stuff, as well as from the horrible and sad lives of the survivors. AB 04-02-2007, 04:10 PM I still enjoy the show too even if I do get frustrated with some of the episodes and some of the characters. I'm just wondering if someone will dig them up, you know to get those diamonds. It could happen, right? Céline 04-02-2007, 06:08 PM Hurley will find the diamonds,he's so lucky :lol: Janice 04-02-2007, 08:03 PM Does anyone know what this week's episode is about? Pavan 04-02-2007, 08:08 PM Janice: Nikki & Paulo had to be explained so they did the episode about them. It wasn't that bad really. The episodes have been first class for awhile (ever since the Hurley episode) and they will continue to answer questions and shock. This week we get a look at Kate's back-story and what happens to Jack and Juliet now that Locke blew the sub up. A new triangle is likely to form between Jack-Kate-Juliet. Janice 04-02-2007, 08:23 PM Janice: Nikki & Paulo had to be explained so they did the episode about them. It wasn't that bad really. The episodes have been first class for awhile (ever since the Hurley episode) and they will continue to answer questions and shock. This week we get a look at Kate's back-story and what happens to Jack and Juliet now that Locke blew the sub up. A new triangle is likely to form between Jack-Kate-Juliet. Thanks Pavan, that sounds good. I don't mean to get upset. I guess I just miss the old Lost, lol. It was getting better, until last week that is. :D Janice 04-04-2007, 09:36 PM Down for the count for tonight's episode. It better be good, lol. Nobody feels like listening to me whine all week about it. :lol: Pavan 04-04-2007, 11:51 PM It was EXCELLENT!!! Janice 04-05-2007, 12:10 AM It was EXCELLENT!!! Best episode of the season? I'm kind of thinking YES! :) Mr. Television 04-05-2007, 01:11 AM Great episode...I fell out of my chair laughing when Sawyer was trying to be nice to Claire and her baby. :lol: Janice 04-05-2007, 01:40 AM Great episode...I fell out of my chair laughing when Sawyer was trying to be nice to Claire and her baby. :lol: :lol: "The baby isn't as wrinkly as he was before." |