View Full Version : Jeffersons Season Six, video issue..


Tynico
03-28-2007, 01:42 AM
Seems like the 1st disc is suffering from a jerkin' picture...seems to be poor video tape transfer issue. I am really disappointed and have read that others are experiencing the same thing. At 1st I thought it was my equipment, but after playing in 2 different players it continues...

Sony really messed up on this one.. !!

TVFactFan
03-28-2007, 11:14 AM
Seems like the 1st disc is suffering from a jerkin' picture...seems to be poor video tape transfer issue. I am really disappointed and have read that others are experiencing the same thing. At 1st I thought it was my equipment, but after playing in 2 different players it continues...

Sony really messed up on this one.. !!


can you be more specific and let us know what episode on Disc one are you talking about?

Tynico
03-28-2007, 11:43 AM
can you be more specific and let us know what episode on Disc one are you talking about?

Its all episodes on DISC 1

TVFactFan
03-28-2007, 11:45 AM
Its all episodes on DISC 1


I will check that out when I get home

TVFactFan
03-28-2007, 05:19 PM
Seems like the 1st disc is suffering from a jerkin' picture...seems to be poor video tape transfer issue. I am really disappointed and have read that others are experiencing the same thing. At 1st I thought it was my equipment, but after playing in 2 different players it continues...

Sony really messed up on this one.. !!



I put in Disc 1 and check out all the eps and they all look fine to me. Very Clear and Crisp Quality. Beautiful Picture. This is the best Quality I seen out of all the Seasons released on DVD

Tynico
03-28-2007, 07:41 PM
well, consider yourself lucky because reviews online say otherwise about this release, ex. below is taken from http://www.movieweb.com/dvd/release/83/117583/review2259.php


The Look
Full Screen - 1.33:1. Okay, the picture itself, taken simply as one frame, looked pretty darn good. However, something has happened to these shows in their compression. That has got to be what has given these episodes a "ghost-like" effect. The characters all seem to be moving just a step slower than normal. Things aren't as fluid as they should be at all. While this didn't ruin the viewing experience, it is annoying and somewhat distracting. Judge for yourself, but I am surprised that Sony would put out a release this way.

Ron Ron
03-28-2007, 09:35 PM
Seems like the 1st disc is suffering from a jerkin' picture...seems to be poor video tape transfer issue. I am really disappointed and have read that others are experiencing the same thing. At 1st I thought it was my equipment, but after playing in 2 different players it continues...

Sony really messed up on this one.. !!


I noticed the same thing on my copy as well. I dont know why the picture is like that. I popped in disc 2 and it is much better than disc 1. The picture is clearer and coler is also better. I wonder what happened with disc 1?

TVFactFan
03-28-2007, 09:37 PM
well, consider yourself lucky because reviews online say otherwise about this release, ex. below is taken from http://www.movieweb.com/dvd/release/83/117583/review2259.php


The Look
Full Screen - 1.33:1. Okay, the picture itself, taken simply as one frame, looked pretty darn good. However, something has happened to these shows in their compression. That has got to be what has given these episodes a "ghost-like" effect. The characters all seem to be moving just a step slower than normal. Things aren't as fluid as they should be at all. While this didn't ruin the viewing experience, it is annoying and somewhat distracting. Judge for yourself, but I am surprised that Sony would put out a release this way.


The main point is it doesn't ruin the viewing experience so this is a DEAD ISSUE. Nothing to complain about at all. Now if this was an EDITING ISSUE then I would understand

Tynico
03-28-2007, 09:55 PM
well I paid for a quality digital transfer and that is what I expected.

Ron Ron
03-28-2007, 10:01 PM
The main point is it doesn't ruin the viewing experience so this is a DEAD ISSUE. Nothing to complain about at all. Now if this was an EDITING ISSUE then I would understand


Well, the quality is cheap compared to the previous releases and disc 2. The episodes on disc 1 should look like the eppys in disc 2. And they do not. I havent checked disc 3 yet. In my opinion it does ruin the viewing experience.

Tynico
03-28-2007, 11:07 PM
Well, the quality is cheap compared to the previous releases and disc 2. The episodes on disc 1 should look like the eppys in disc 2. And they do not. I havent checked disc 3 yet. In my opinion it does ruin the viewing experience.

I agree.. SONY should have resolved this issue b4 putting it on the shelves. Im kind of shocked they left it as is.

mraw
03-28-2007, 11:33 PM
I thought it was an editing issue (for particular episodes). I noticed it very much in "Short Story" from Disc 1, but I've watched a couple of minutes of "Now You See It, Now You Don't" and I didn't see anything (so far). I noticed that weird look on my first season set as well (on the episode where Uncle Ward comes to visit). They look like they weren't edited or something. It almost looks like a live taping. We should probably get used to those episodes being like that, because there's no way that Sony will reissue a dvd set of a 70's tv show for any reason.

TVFactFan
03-28-2007, 11:41 PM
Well, the quality is cheap compared to the previous releases and disc 2. The episodes on disc 1 should look like the eppys in disc 2. And they do not. I havent checked disc 3 yet. In my opinion it does ruin the viewing experience.


I think you are being TOO PICKY and should just enjoy the show

TVFactFan
03-28-2007, 11:43 PM
I thought it was an editing issue (for particular episodes). I noticed it very much in "Short Story" from Disc 1, but I've watched a couple of minutes of "Now You See It, Now You Don't" and I didn't see anything (so far). I noticed that weird look on my first season set as well (on the episode where Uncle Ward comes to visit). They look like they weren't edited or something. It almost looks like a live taping. We should probably get used to those episodes being like that, because there's no way that Sony will reissue a dvd set of a 70's tv show for any reason.


Why do you feel Short Story was Edited?

mraw
03-28-2007, 11:45 PM
Why do you feel Short Story was Edited?

I don't think it was edited (as in cut short). It seemed to me that the weird look of the video in the episode is an editing issue.

TVFactFan
03-28-2007, 11:47 PM
I don't think it was edited (as in cut short). It seemed to me that the weird look of the video in the episode is an editing issue.


What Weird Look?

mraw
03-28-2007, 11:51 PM
What Weird Look?

The look that Tynico and Ron Ron are referring to.

TVFactFan
03-28-2007, 11:54 PM
The look that Tynico and Ron Ron are referring to.


Here is my point, as long as the DVD is WATCHABLE and you can enjoy who really cares? I cannot believe this is even an issue. You Guys are taking this Quality thing to a new Level

Tynico
03-29-2007, 12:27 AM
Here is my point, as long as the DVD is WATCHABLE and you can enjoy who really cares? I cannot believe this is even an issue. You Guys are taking this Quality thing to a new Level

Well, I dont think its overboard that they messed up disc 1 and we are discussing it.

TVFactFan
03-29-2007, 10:51 AM
Well, I dont think its overboard that they messed up disc 1 and we are discussing it.


Try WATCHING the show instead of Overanalyzing the Quality.

Ron Ron
03-29-2007, 07:02 PM
How rude TVReseacher, I will just take my complaint somewhere else and stop posting here. I dont need this abuse.

TVFactFan
03-29-2007, 07:08 PM
How rude TVReseacher, I will just take my complaint somewhere else and stop posting here. I dont need this abuse.


What do you mean Rude? I'm not insulting anyone I'm just saying stop complaining about minor issues. I watched the eps on disc 1 and I saw nothing that would make me not enjoy the show. So I don't see what's the big deal. It was even mentioned by someone that-"THE VIEWING EXPERIENCE is not Ruined.

Chuck89
03-29-2007, 10:54 PM
I have yet to get the S6 DVD,so it will be interesting to see what this looks like.
Does it have the distorted look that tv shows shot on video and processed in the fake filmlook have(like Hannah Montana and the garbage soap formerly known as All My Children are shown in)?
There are some DVD recorders that when recorded in the SLP mode,any videotaped show will have this grainy filmlook.

USATVFAN
03-30-2007, 09:06 AM
i watched the entire first 2 disk from season 6 last night and i found nothing wrong with any of the episode the episodes were still watchable as ever and funny like always, i didn't notice anything weird or different.

TVFactFan
03-30-2007, 08:10 PM
i watched the entire first 2 disk from season 6 last night and i found nothing wrong with any of the episode the episodes were still watchable as ever and funny like always, i didn't notice anything weird or different.

For once we agree on something

angier106
04-03-2007, 10:21 PM
I finally got my DVD set and do notice what you say Tynico.

TVFactFan
04-03-2007, 10:27 PM
I finally got my DVD set and do notice what you say Tynico.


Well throw the DVD in the trash then and forget about it

angier106
04-04-2007, 11:45 AM
TVResearcher. I would NEVER throw my DVD to the trash. I love the show too much.
It's just that I truly hope that there is nothing wrong with it and that it will continue to be "viewable" forever!
Angie

TVFactFan
04-04-2007, 05:49 PM
TVResearcher. I would NEVER throw my DVD to the trash. I love the show too much.
It's just that I truly hope that there is nothing wrong with it and that it will continue to be "viewable" forever!
Angie


Well the DVD"s must look that way where you live because I found all 24 eps to be VERY WATCHABLE

Jinxey
04-16-2007, 01:35 AM
I noticed the same thing on my copy as well. I dont know why the picture is like that. I popped in disc 2 and it is much better than disc 1. The picture is clearer and coler is also better. I wonder what happened with disc 1?


On my set. the problem is only with Disc 1. The episodes with this issue are:
The Announcement
A Short Story
Louise's Old Boyfriend
Where's Papa?
The Expectant Father

This issue needs to be resolved. A replacement disc should be issued to correct this problem.

Maybe TVResearcher is the only person that doesn't have this problem, but it sucks for the rest of us.

TVFactFan
04-16-2007, 01:09 PM
On my set. the problem is only with Disc 1. The episodes with this issue are:
The Announcement
A Short Story
Louise's Old Boyfriend
Where's Papa?
The Expectant Father

This issue needs to be resolved. A replacement disc should be issued to correct this problem.

Maybe TVResearcher is the only person that doesn't have this problem, but it sucks for the rest of us.



I'm not the only one who didn't see problems with Disc 1.

Jinxey
04-17-2007, 12:38 PM
I'm not the only one who didn't see problems with Disc 1.

TV Researcher...
I know in my case it was those 5 episodes I mentioned, maybe in other cases it was the entire disc. In your case and others, there were no problems at all. There's an inconsistency there.

What if the episodes weren't running at normal speed, but faster or slower. Should we accept this? We already accepted the fact that we're not getting uncut, but syndicated episodes with no hopes of doing further research.

I know we're all happy to have these episodes on DVD, but where do u we draw the line on quality?

TVFactFan
04-17-2007, 06:21 PM
TV Researcher...
I know in my case it was those 5 episodes I mentioned, maybe in other cases it was the entire disc. In your case and others, there were no problems at all. There's an inconsistency there.

What if the episodes weren't running at normal speed, but faster or slower. Should we accept this? We already accepted the fact that we're not getting uncut, but syndicated episoded with no hopes of doing further research.

I know we're all happy to have these episodes on DVD, but where do u we draw the line on quality?



I only complete about CUT eps on DVD, that's it

Billy K.
05-09-2007, 11:18 AM
Yeah, I have that problem too on those episodes.

It almost like a flutter when they characters move (ie. walk/move their hands).

Still very watchable and enjoyable though.

At least the Halloween episode(s) looks fabulous.

Jinxey
05-16-2007, 01:47 AM
Does anyone have Sony's number???
lol

TVFactFan
05-16-2007, 07:34 PM
Does anyone have Sony's number???
lol



Why so I can get hung up on???-lol

jamesanthony
05-20-2007, 05:17 PM
I have this season on DVD and yes there is a problem with some of the episodes on the first disk- it looks like there was a problem when they transferred them into dvd format. Also the booklet that lists the episodes that are on each disk is wrong. There are 8 episodes per disk, but the booklet lists episodes 1-9 as being on disk one, 10-18 as being on disk 2 and the rest as being on disk 3. Anyway it is nice that they have them in CBS broadcast order rather than the order they are shown in in syndication.

Jinxey
09-12-2007, 07:51 PM
Early last month, I sent my Season 6 DVD to Sony for review along with a letter stating the issue with the episodes from Disc 1. They gave me a case number and everything.

Well I just got my set back along with a letter stating:

Your issue has been discussed with our manufacturing group. They have conducted quality assurance testing against the DVD "The Jeffersons: Season 1 (Disc 1)" and have found no problems with the disc. Therefore, we regret that we are unable to assist you further in this matter.

We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your continued patronage

Season 6 will not be fixed, so don't send it to Sony or you will be pissed
:mad:

TVFactFan
09-12-2007, 08:22 PM
Early last month, I sent my Season 6 DVD to Sony for review along with a letter stating the issue with the episodes from Disc 1. They gave me a case number and everything.

Well I just got my set back along with a letter stating:

Your issue has been discussed with our manufacturing group. They have conducted quality assurance testing against the DVD "The Jeffersons: Season 1 (Disc 1)" and have found no problems with the disc. Therefore, we regret that we are unable to assist you further in this matter.

We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your continued patronage

Season 6 will not be fixed, so don't send it to Sony or you will be pissed
:mad:



I'm on Sony's side and never saw anything wrong with the Quality on the season 6 DVD

Jack77
07-11-2008, 04:43 AM
Hi all, I know I'm a little late with this post, but I just bought Season 6 and I popped it in last night & tried to watch the first three episodes on Disk 1. Well from the minute of the opening credits it was driving me insane!

KingOfTVResearch, I'm really surprised you did not catch this. The transfer on these episodes are horrible and unacceptable!
And YES, it does ruin the viewing experience!! How can it not? It was painful to sit there watch those episodes and pretend there was not a problem!
It was very annoying & distracting!!! I could not get into the episode.

The moment I saw their apartment building shaking in the opening credits, I knew something was wrong. Then looking at the episodes, they don't look like they were shot LIVE on video tape anymore.
Chuck89 you are so right when you best describe it having that distorted look that tv shows shot on video and processed in the fake filmlook like All My Children.
It's like watching a bad copy of an episode on youtube. Sorry but this is the second time SONY has messed up. You should see what they did with the I Dream Of Jeannie Season 4 DVD. In one episode, the entire show is shaking. Complaints were made about that DVD set & SONY chose to do nothing.
Who the hell is working at SONY messing up like this???
WE NEED TO COMPLAIN or they will just continue to do sloppy jobs! This is not why I chose to spend money & buy these episodes on DVD.
If I wanted sloppy work, I would have recorded them off TV Land!

I was going to go back to the store and exchange my DVD, but I'm sure glad I came here & read everyone's post. To the fans that don't notice anything is wrong, just compare all the episodes on the first disk with the exception of the Halloween episodes to the rest of the episodes on the other two disks. The episodes should look like it was shot LIVE on video tape instead of it looking like it was shot digitally on film.
Sorry but that's not the way I originally saw those episodes and that's not the way they were meant to be viewed!
They must have some ignorant youngsters working in the processing lab at SONY who don't care about our show & thinks The Jeffersons should look like it was shot on film like the tv show Friends rather than video tape. Well sorry to say, I'm a purist and that new digital look stinks! It takes away from what was a LIVE show taped on video tape!! NOT FILM!!!
And why mess up a few episodes on the set and leave the others the same?
Makes no sense!!!

Yes Billy K thank God the Halloween episodes were not messed up because that would have been tragic. Those are the best episodes from season 6!

And Jinxey I know you are pissed but I think it's wrong to tell other people not to contact SONY.
We all need to let SONY know that there is a problem!
Did you explain the issues in full detail or did you just tell them something is wrong & let them look for the problem?

What is the number & address you contacted, because if we can get everyone on here who is uhhappy with their sets to contact SONY, something might be done!
And if we are not able to get new copies which at this point is wishful thinking, at least we can all make sure SONY is aware of the problem and see to it that this does not keep happening on future sets!
I will really be upset & disgusted with SONY if they do this to the Hawaii episodes on the next set...

TVFactFan
07-11-2008, 07:30 PM
I'm not a QUALITY FREAK so I didn['t notice anything unusual on Disc 1 that stopped me from enjoying the eps

Jack77
07-11-2008, 08:28 PM
Well then your eyes must be bad, because that was very unusual & unacceptable!!!

TVFactFan
07-11-2008, 11:49 PM
Well then your eyes must be bad, because that was very unusual & unacceptable!!!


Since it was bought for entertainment purposes, the quality was well above average for me

catlover79
09-30-2009, 09:55 PM
Yeah, I'm watching Season 6 now and know what you mean. It looks like a few of the episodes on Disc 1 were filmed instead of taped. At least the eps were uncut. "I'M SHORT!! I'M SHORT!! I'M SHORT!!!!" :rofl: