I have seen this segment several times in the past, and it just reaired a couple of days ago on LRW.

There were no witnesses other than Rollins, and the duo got hijacked just 50 feet from their front door.

The segment never addressed this, but did the cops look at Rollins as a suspect at all? I do find it odd that the robbers would allow Rollins to remain inside by himself while they took his friend out and executed him. Also it is kind of strange the way the segment portrayed what happened once the robbers entered the house. They just kinda walked around with no real motive at all.

I don't think Rollins did it, but I was just wondering if anyone else found his story kind of suspect in areas.

I never thought of that, but I don't think rollins was involved at all. The case seemed perfectly normal for the "ghetto" where it was said to be. It reminded me of things that took place in the movie "friday" and stuff, not to be stereotypical...but who knows what the deal was with that.

Here's an old thread with an interesting article in it about the case:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=149218&highlight=Henry+Rollins

I never thought of that, but I don't think rollins was involved at all. The case seemed perfectly normal for the "ghetto" where it was said to be. It reminded me of things that took place in the movie "friday" and stuff, not to be stereotypical...but who knows what the deal was with that.
Robberies and violent crimes arent normal anywhere.

I read that article, crystal. Very interesting.

I think it is VERY possible Rollins is witholding information. I am not accusing him of being the killer, but it could have been a situation where he knew the killers and didn't want to admit it in fear of retaliation or fear of being a suspect himself. The Nazi memoribilia is an interesting angle. I am sure Cole didn't just make that up. If this Nazi thing is true, then Venice Beach is NOT the place you want to make that sort of thing known. :)

Robberies and violent crimes arent normal anywhere.

are you serious? have you ever read a newspaper from an urban/downtown area? Guarantee almost everyday robbery/violent crime is news, or maybe because I'm used to reading detroit news. ha

I have seen this segment several times in the past, and it just reaired a couple of days ago on LRW.

There were no witnesses other than Rollins, and the duo got hijacked just 50 feet from their front door.

The segment never addressed this, but did the cops look at Rollins as a suspect at all? I do find it odd that the robbers would allow Rollins to remain inside by himself while they took his friend out and executed him. Also it is kind of strange the way the segment portrayed what happened once the robbers entered the house. They just kinda walked around with no real motive at all.

I don't think Rollins did it, but I was just wondering if anyone else found his story kind of suspect in areas.

You have captured my thoughts about this segment to a tee. While I don't really think that Rollins did it, I do find it very curious how he came out virtually unscathed while his roommate his murdered.

No way. I don't think Rollins did it, nor is he withholding information. I also don't think he was alone in the house when it all happened. The way I remember the segment, Joe and Henry were out buying groceries and were walking back to their house when they were accosted. From my understanding, Rollins was on his way into the house to get the robbers money when they shot Joe Cole. Rollins took off running as soon as he heard the gunshot, and I want to say that they shot at him too. It's not like he was strolling around his kitchen when the shooting went down.

Also, if he was withholding information, why would be agree to be interviewed for the segment?

I doubt Rollins is involved, he seemed pretty sincere on his segment, and seemed to really miss his friend. I can certainly buy the intruder theory here, this was a bad part of California we're talking about here (wasn't it Oakland, or am I just crazy?) In any event, it was a bad part of town. My first reaction would have been to run as well, as they had already shot at Cole. They say in most circumstances if you just do what the robbers want you'll be fine, but this is a whole different ballgame.

Well, in my opinion Rollins didnt do it, however I do think it is possible he isnt telling everything he knows. I believe Joe Cole's father, Dennis Cole has said he believes that Rollins isnt telling everything he knows. I think Rollins was sincere about his friend although I think he could have done with the segment without all the political talking points he gave like basically saying the Justice System only benefits rich white people like he basically implied.

What information could Rollins be hiding? What would he have to hide?

Well, in my opinion Rollins didnt do it, however I do think it is possible he isnt telling everything he knows. I believe Joe Cole's father, Dennis Cole has said he believes that Rollins isnt telling everything he knows. I think Rollins was sincere about his friend although I think he could have done with the segment without all the political talking points he gave like basically saying the Justice System only benefits rich white people like he basically implied.

It's not like he was lying. I love listening to that man speak. Check out some of his spoken word stuff and you'd be amazed.

He still dedicates every single one of his books and albums to Joe to this day. He loved him like a brother and still gets choked up when talking about him.

Hey what do you guys think of Henry Rollins? Did he do the right thing and bail on his buddy? I can only imagine what his friend thought in the seconds before he died... It's difficult for me to say, I'd like to know what others think on this.

Hey what do you guys think of Henry Rollins? Did he do the right thing and bail on his buddy? I can only imagine what his friend thought in the seconds before he died... It's difficult for me to say, I'd like to know what others think on this.

You'll have to refresh my memory as I haven't seen this one in a while. I know that they were ambushed by some men and Joe ended up being shot and killed. Did Rollins run away after Cole was shot?

Hey what do you guys think of Henry Rollins? Did he do the right thing and bail on his buddy? I can only imagine what his friend thought in the seconds before he died... It's difficult for me to say, I'd like to know what others think on this.

Any sane person would have done the same thing. It's the human survival instinct.

Actually, that isnt how it went. Here we go with this 2nd guessing stuff again, I wont even pretend to know what I would do if I was being held at gun point, whether I would run or not like Rollins did, I imagine unless you are actually in that situation you do not know what you would do. However in the segment, it showed Rollins standing there with his hands raised, Joe Cole actually tried to get away first I think and the robbers turned around to him and shot at him and Rollins said he stood there for a few seconds, thinking how strange gunshots sounded in the room as the sound of the gun shots bounced off the walls and then the natural reaction Rollins had was just to run. However if anything Cole tried to escape and was shot first, Rollins didnt run off before the shots to leave Cole to die, he heard the gun shots and he ran off.

That's RIGHT! I forgot about that comment Rollins made regarding the echo of the gunshots. Thank you for pointing that out, Kadrmas!

...and yeah, I think that the natural reaction is to run like hell. I"m sure Joe Cole didn't think anything less of his friend for doing that. I think most of us in the same situation would want our friends to be safe.

I don't have a problem with Rollins taking off for a couple of reasons:

1. Amount of time: It's not like he had all the time in the world to think about whether to fight or flight, we're talking about a couple seconds here, tops. And given that Cole had been shot, Rollins probably figured that there was a pretty good chance that he was getting shot too.

2. Neighborhood: This took place in Venice, which is one of the most high-crime places in Los Angeles. I can't say for sure as I've never been there, but this might be the kind of place where people will blow somebody's head off for ten bucks.

3. Unusual circumstance: I would imagine that Rollins probably figured at first that this was going to be a 'usual robbery', I really don't like using that term to describe it, but it's the best I can come up with. In any event, once Rollins realized that Cole had been shot, he figured that this was not going to be a usual robbery, and that his life was in grave danger.

4. Help for Cole: Rollins got out of there to not just help himself, but also to help Cole. Realizing that time was of the essence, he realized Cole needed help right away. Had he hung around, that would have delayed the time that assistance could get to Cole. Unfortunatley, Cole died anyways, but Rollins had no way of knowing that at the time.

So no, I have no problem with Rollins bolting.

I've seen this segment twice now and each time I've noticed the complete lack of any corroborating evidence for Rollins' story. The armchair detective in me starts imagining a clever murder, with a what's-her-name (Susan whatever who blamed the imaginary black guy for stealing her car and her children) element to it.

But, in this case, I think there must be some other evidence that suggests that there were two other people there. One thing that comes to mind is that, at least from the way the segment depicts the murder, Joe Cole was very likely shot with two guns, not one. Rollins would have to be one clever bastard to think of that ahead of time.

Also, after gunshots, people have a tendency to look out the window. Perhaps somoene saw two men fleeing the scene, and gave details the police preferred to withhold.

I don't for a moment, by the way, believe the Nazi thing about Rollins. For one thing, it appeared in The Globe. They're not exactly known for their high journalistic standards. For another, Rollins made it a point to talk about the unfair way justice is often administered in this country, along racial and socioeconomic lines. I don't think a died-in-the-wool racist, one who would go so far as to own Nazi paraphanalia, could bring himself to utter such a thought, even if it meant making himself look less guilty.

The armchair detective in me starts imagining a clever murder, with a what's-her-name (Susan whatever who blamed the imaginary black guy for stealing her car and her children) element to it.

Susan Smith.

What would have been Rollins' motive for setting up and killing his best friend like that? He lived in Venice, which is a very high crime area like much of southern California where people pull off robberies and murders all the time for drugs or whatever. I just think Henry Rollins was very lucky to have survived that and his buddy Joe Cole was the unfortunate victim. Maybe the robbers/killers did see Rollins on TV and thought to watch him and try to rob him (and possibly kill him later). I just don't think Henry Rollins is the killer at all. Wasn't there a recent article other than that Globe article that had some suspects that still lived in the Venice area but didn't have the evidence (other than hearsay) to arrest them?

I've been a fan of Henry Rollins since I first heard his band Black Flag when I was in junior high in the mid 80's. I've followed his career ever since, seen his spoken shows five times and read many of his books.

I don't believe he would withhold information about Joe Cole if he thought it would bring the killer to justice. They were best friends. He talked about this in one of his spoken performances called "Talking From The Box", released on VHS in 1992 (a year after the murder) and it has since been released on DVD. The story starts off funny as he relays stories about the two of them hanging out without saying who he is talking about. It sudddenly switches to first person, at which point the viewer can get a glimpse of the real-life horror and pain of this experience. It's a really powerful piece and I have seen it listed on youtube under the title "Rollins talks about Joe Cole" or something like that.

As for Dennis Cole's allegations about the racist paraphanalia, IF he said those things (which is suspect considering the source), I would like to point out that I don't believe that Joe was on particularly great terms with his dad.

I never heard a great amount of detail about this but I once owned Rollins' book "Now Watch Him Die", which is essentially his diaries written in the close aftermath of Joe's death. He has published many of his own diaries over the years but this one in particular is very dark, owing to the circumstances.

I would quote it if I could but unfortunately I loaned that book to someone years ago and never got it back. From what I remember there was an entry where Rollins was disgusted with a quote Joe's father had made in a newspaper about Joe, the implication being "how would you know?". The way I remember reading it, it implied that Joe and his father weren't particularly close.

No disrespect to Dennis Cole intended. He understandably wants the murderer of his son brought to justice but any allegations he may be throwing out there most likely didn't come from his son or those closest to him.

You could say I'm biased as a fan, but I'd bet money that Rollins isn't hiding any information based on how much I've heard him speak about this and seen written about it.

I've been a fan of Henry Rollins since I first heard his band Black Flag when I was in junior high in the mid 80's. I've followed his career ever since, seen his spoken shows five times and read many of his books.

I don't believe he would withhold information about Joe Cole if he thought it would bring the killer to justice. They were best friends. He talked about this in one of his spoken performances called "Talking From The Box", released on VHS in 1992 (a year after the murder) and it has since been released on DVD. The story starts off funny as he relays stories about the two of them hanging out without saying who he is talking about. It sudddenly switches to first person, at which point the viewer can get a glimpse of the real-life horror and pain of this experience. It's a really powerful piece and I have seen it listed on youtube under the title "Rollins talks about Joe Cole" or something like that.

As for Dennis Cole's allegations about the racist paraphanalia, IF he said those things (which is suspect considering the source), I would like to point out that I don't believe that Joe was on particularly great terms with his dad.

I never heard a great amount of detail about this but I once owned Rollins' book "Now Watch Him Die", which is essentially his diaries written in the close aftermath of Joe's death. He has published many of his own diaries over the years but this one in particular is very dark, owing to the circumstances.

I would quote it if I could but unfortunately I loaned that book to someone years ago and never got it back. From what I remember there was an entry where Rollins was disgusted with a quote Joe's father had made in a newspaper about Joe, the implication being "how would you know?". The way I remember reading it, it implied that Joe and his father weren't particularly close.

No disrespect to Dennis Cole intended. He understandably wants the murderer of his son brought to justice but any allegations he may be throwing out there most likely didn't come from his son or those closest to him.

You could say I'm biased as a fan, but I'd bet money that Rollins isn't hiding any information based on how much I've heard him speak about this and seen written about it.

QFMFT!

Robberies and violent crimes arent normal anywhere.

You ever been to Johannesburg.

I do find it odd that the robbers would allow Rollins to remain inside by himself while they took his friend out and executed him.

I have always found this very odd as well. They came there with the intent to rob and kill, so why stop at just the one? Why leave anything to chance?

You ever been to Johannesburg.
Off-topic here but I love your Town That Dreaded Sundown avatar. Good movie.

As for the murder itself, I don't think Henry had anything to do with it. He's always came across as a nice guy, and I can't imagine why he'd do such a thing. Me being a fan of his work helps, too.

I have always found this very odd as well. They came there with the intent to rob and kill, so why stop at just the one? Why leave anything to chance?

No this is not what happened, according to Rollins. Both he and Joe were being led into their residence by the robbers, and Rollins was the first to enter their house. He made a break for the back door as soon as he did, and I believe it may have been when Joe Cole made an attempt to fight back with the attackers. As Rollins was running to the back door, this is when Joe Cole was murdered.

I do not believe for one second that Henry Rollins is holding a thing back. I've heard him speak passionately about his friend. I've heard him plead with people to live life to the fullest, to live the life Joe was denied. I've heard the pain in his voice as this man, with a reputation for being tough as nails and fairer than hell, recounted the loss of his friend.

A champion of gay rights, a true punk to the core and a decent man, that is all I see in Henry Rollins. Heck, do you know how much street cred he risked by going on UM?

I heard a theory that the robbers may have robbed Cole and Rollins because they had seen music producer Rick Rubin's expensive car out in front of the home earlier in the day and thought they were loaded with money. Can anyone verify this?

I heard a theory that the robbers may have robbed Cole and Rollins because they had seen music producer Rick Rubin's expensive car out in front of the home earlier in the day and thought they were loaded with money. Can anyone verify this?

I can't verify if this is what in fact happened, but it sounds very likely.

I read that article, crystal. Very interesting.

I think it is VERY possible Rollins is witholding information. I am not accusing him of being the killer, but it could have been a situation where he knew the killers and didn't want to admit it in fear of retaliation or fear of being a suspect himself. The Nazi memoribilia is an interesting angle. I am sure Cole didn't just make that up. If this Nazi thing is true, then Venice Beach is NOT the place you want to make that sort of thing known. :)

And you seem more interested in writing a lame Law and Order plot line than posting a realistic scenario. Affluent guys in the entertainment industry don't talk to hoodrats willing to rob your house. This is a well known, unspoken rule in Los Angeles. People get suspicious of other people with little provocation, outside of their social bubble.

The Nazi memorabilia angle is beyond stupid. There is no significance other than dark curiosity or historical interest for people to collect those things. Spielberg has a painting of Lenin, and the Communist era killed far many more millions than the Nazis ever did. That doesn't make Spielberg a communist - though he might be - and it doesn't make him a card-carrying member of the American Communist Party (though, for some weird reason, being that is way more politically correct than being a member of anything far-right).

It's just tabloid stuff that Hollyweirdos use to promote themselves or their own work, and it's perfectly acceptable apparently to exploit the murder of a friend to score points. Sometimes you have to wonder if types like that don't deserve their fate when they treat their own friends as nothing more than a means to score a few easy bucks.

The only thing I'll add to this case is that the suspects were clearly from the area. The surviving victim noted (for some strange reason, but I think he was taking artistic liberty) that their nightly routine made them easy targets, which hints at recon work done by the suspects. I don't think that's what happened as much as it was a case of opportunity.

Until people have dealt with hoodrats on a regular basis, their crimes are often low-investment and impulsive. They don't stake out and figure out the routine of victims if it requires even a little bit of work. This was a crime of opportunity.

The LAPD representative was right in saying that the suspects lived close by and probably talked about the crimes with other gangsters. That's how LA works: very segregated and with many cliques, some of whom are friendly and some of whom aren't friendly with police.

There's no telling if Cole's friend moved from the area immediately after (probably, since it's clear he had the money to do that). If he did not move, I would be surprised if he didn't bump into them again. It's LA. People tend to stay in their quarters and only move if it means to network, eat somewhere else, or meet up with another group of people. But people tend to shop no more than a few miles from their place.

Given the low IQs of the suspects, they've almost certainly been in and out of the system, or been shot, since this incident happened. They might have even moved since, given Hispanics and blacks have had a turf war going on for some time, and Hispanics have rightly made it a better place to live all around. I'm guessing LAPD never got fingerprints, which tells me the suspects never actually entered the home for whatever reason.

This case shows how unorganized hood rats are. Both victims should have been in front of them. I'm thinking the escapee got in front, while the other murdered victim tried to run away, who was then shot.

I find the implication that Henry Rollins is withholding information absurd. There are few people on earth I find more believable than Henry Rollins when he speaks.

He WAS considered a suspect. In fact, the cops initially considered it a domestic dispute between lovers. Henry was taken to the police department and held overnight.

Henry Rollins loved Joe deeply. They were soul mates in a non-sexual way. Closer than best friends, closer than brothers, I believe they thought of themselves as two halves of a whole, as sharing a brain. They called themselves "The Chosen One"

Check out Rollins on the site that must not be mentioned in a video called "The Death of Joe Cole"

Check out Rollins on the site that must not be mentioned in a video called "The Death of Joe Cole"


This is a really good watch.

Also, not sure if its been mentioned by Joe's father, Dennis, passed away in 2009.

Henry Rollins loved Joe deeply. They were soul mates in a non-sexual way. Closer than best friends, closer than brothers, I believe they thought of themselves as two halves of a whole, as sharing a brain. They called themselves "The Chosen One"

Or, to quote Kevin Smith, "heterosexual life-mate?"

I said it when the thread was originally started, and I'll say it again. NO WAY is Henry Rollins involved. I find the implications as absurd as the one that alleges, "Rob did it."

I have also seen Rollins speak. He is a very charismatic and engaging speaker and did clearly love his friend very much.

Or, to quote Kevin Smith, "heterosexual life-mate?"

I said it when the thread was originally started, and I'll say it again. NO WAY is Henry Rollins involved. I find the implications as absurd as the one that alleges, "Rob did it."

I have also seen Rollins speak. He is a very charismatic and engaging speaker and did clearly love his friend very much.

I agree. If he was involved, he wouldn't go to the great lengths he does to put his friends name out there in the public view in hopes of catching the killer(s).

I believe that Rollins has been forthcoming with information and I do not believe that he was involved in any way.

His sociopolitical rant at the end of the segment, however, is most annoying. I would love to ask him one thing. Should these killers ever be apprehended by law enforcement, I wonder if Mr. Rollins would be willing to donate financially to their defense in order to level the playing field for these "oppressed" souls? He certainly would not. He is merely parroting leftist dialogue in order to maintain his street cred in the "edgy", anti-establishment music industry.

thanks for the link crystaldawn (aka megtheegg).

I believe that Rollins has been forthcoming with information and I do not believe that he was involved in any way.

His sociopolitical rant at the end of the segment, however, is most annoying. I would love to ask him one thing. Should these killers ever be apprehended by law enforcement, I wonder if Mr. Rollins would be willing to donate financially to their defense in order to level the playing field for these "oppressed" souls? He certainly would not. He is merely parroting leftist dialogue in order to maintain his street cred in the "edgy", anti-establishment music industry.

It did seem odd to me that he seemed almost apologetic for the people who murdered his best friend right in front of him.

thanks for the link crystaldawn (aka megtheegg).

Wait, what? Am I missing something? Are CD and Meg the same person? I didn't think they were...

He was definitely very elaborate on the segment describing what happened. I dont mean to laugh but the part where he said they told me to put my head down and i said OK! Or something of that effect. No way is he involved. You can tell sincerity in the UM segments and people like Tim McClure, Jule Caylor and Mark Nichols have NONE compared to people like him, Angela Hammond's fiancee are clearly innocent

I don't think Rollins was in any way involved. But I agree with Cole's father, Dennis, that Rollins is withholding information. This case sounds like a hit/drug deal gone bad. One of them probably owed money, and persuaded the perp(s) the money was inside the house. Rollins made a break for it as he entered the house. Cole struggled, but wasn't so lucky. Very sad.

I don't think Rollins was in any way involved. But I agree with Cole's father, Dennis, that Rollins is withholding information. This case sounds like a hit/drug deal gone bad. One of them probably owed money, and persuaded the perp(s) the money was inside the house. Rollins made a break for it as he entered the house. Cole struggled, but wasn't so lucky. Very sad.


I don't know about a drug deal scenario. Henry Rollins is pretty vociferously straight-edge and surrounds himself with same.

I also think the earlier comments that this was a crime of opportunity and that "hoodrats" aren't savvy enough to figure out that Rollins and the son of an actor live in their neighborhood and might have money in the house is silly. They're smart enough to have gotten away with it all this time.

They were two white guys in the hood, even if the perps didn't know they were well-off being white was good enough. Some blacks (in the hood) just assume that whites have money. That's all it was. I've been robbed at gunpoint walking home from school minding my business by thugs, and I'm black, and I'm certainly not rich.

I don't think Henry is lying or withholding anything, unfortunately that's just how bad areas are. Even if you're poor you stand a good chance of being shot and robbed. No need to look any deeper into this.

I don't think Henry is lying or withholding anything, unfortunately that's just how bad areas are. Even if you're poor you stand a good chance of being shot and robbed. No need to look any deeper into this.

Yep I agree with this completely.

This incident had a huge effect on Rollins' life, I doubt there is any aspect of it he has not thoroughly documented in his writings etc.

Link to forbidden site where Rollins talks to Howard Stern about Cole's murder, and he talks about Dennis Cole accusing him of knowing more at around the 7:00 mark.

Here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMhk8ZqZ7ZU)

Link to forbidden site where Rollins talks to Howard Stern about Cole's murder, and he talks about Dennis Cole accusing him of knowing more at around the 7:00 mark.

Here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMhk8ZqZ7ZU)

Ah man. It's gross he kept his brain in a tupperware bowl.

Ah man. It's gross he kept his brain in a tupperware bowl.

I thought it was just the bloody dirt from where Joe was shot and killed. I didn't actually think he had the dude's brain.

I thought it was just the bloody dirt from where Joe was shot and killed. I didn't actually think he had the dude's brain.

Oh is that what he mean't?

Oh is that what he mean't?

I've read quite a bit about Henry Rollins and Joe Cole over the years. I think Rollins clarified this a long time ago and said, "No. I didn't have his brain. I have the dirt."

I've read quite a bit about Henry Rollins and Joe Cole over the years. I think Rollins clarified this a long time ago and said, "No. I didn't have his brain. I have the dirt."

I never knew any of that. From the interview he said he "dug up the soil from where his head was at" and didn't say no, so I was confused.

I've read quite a bit about Henry Rollins and Joe Cole over the years. I think Rollins clarified this a long time ago and said, "No. I didn't have his brain. I have the dirt."

Correct. He definitely doesn't have the brain, just some of the soil that ended up soaked with the blood.

And to anybody that claims Rollins had anything to do with Joe's death and/or is withholding any information in regards to it, I'm going to bring in Jackie Chiles because those claims are, "Outrageous, egregious... preposterous!" :lol:

I in no way believe Rollins was involved, nor do I believe he knows more than he's saying. I've watched a lot of interviews with Rollins, and he comes off as a guy who gives it to you straight.

I tend to believe the Rick Rubin theory. According to Rollins, Rubin showed up in a Rolls Royce at the residence of Joe Cole and Henry Rollins (located in a bad neighborhood) not long before the murder, flashing his wealth. Couple this with the fact that many people in the area already knew who Rollins was and probably saw him on MTV at the time. Word probably got around, and people assumed that they had money and/or valuables in the house and Joe and Henry soon became targets.

If that visit from Rubin never happened, I wonder if the attempted robbery/murder would have...

One of Dennis Cole's Young and the Restless episodes is airing on Monday, due to them running out of episodes from Covid.

Is there any chance of this ever being solved? The only thing I can think of is if the police have DNA and it matches in a national database. I haven’t seen anything indicating there was any DNA from the killers, but the police don’t always share everything with the public.

thanks for the link crystaldawn (aka megtheegg).

Did I miss something? I thought they were two people.

Did I miss something? I thought they were two people.

They are, in fact, two people. I can verify. :)

One of Dennis Cole's Young and the Restless episodes is airing on Monday, due to them running out of episodes from Covid.

Dennis Cole wasn’t he married to
Charlie’s Angel Jackie Smith. Rollins is always a good interview. Black Flag to actor to poet.

They are, in fact, two people. I can verify. :)

For every mystery, there is someone, somewhere, who knows the truth.

For every mystery, there is someone, somewhere, who knows the truth.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

This just posted on the Crazy Days and Nights celeb gossip blog and I think we can all discern what case they are talking about...

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2021/01/blind-item-8-reader-blind_31.html

The police have quietly reopened their investigation into a murder that took place decades ago. The reason for this was an episode a couple years ago of a show that doesn’t appear on TV which cast some doubt on the official version of what happened.

The victim was the son of a C list actor. Also present was his roommate the well known member of a band who later had his own band and now is more of an actor and host.

There is no conspiracy here. The events happened as the bandmember/actor/host told the police. What he left out was the real motive. It wasn’t robbery which is what he told the police the motive was. This was a homophobic hate crime. The son of the actor and the bandmember/host/actor were lovers. The bandmember/host/actor is widely known to be gay but still in the closet to this day and won’t publicly admit it. That’s why the two gunmen didn’t really steal anything . They only shouted anti-gay slurs and shot the son of the actor.

This just posted on the Crazy Days and Nights celeb gossip blog and I think we can all discern what case they are talking about...

https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2021/01/blind-item-8-reader-blind_31.html

The police have quietly reopened their investigation into a murder that took place decades ago. The reason for this was an episode a couple years ago of a show that doesn’t appear on TV which cast some doubt on the official version of what happened.

The victim was the son of a C list actor. Also present was his roommate the well known member of a band who later had his own band and now is more of an actor and host.

There is no conspiracy here. The events happened as the bandmember/actor/host told the police. What he left out was the real motive. It wasn’t robbery which is what he told the police the motive was. This was a homophobic hate crime. The son of the actor and the bandmember/host/actor were lovers. The bandmember/host/actor is widely known to be gay but still in the closet to this day and won’t publicly admit it. That’s why the two gunmen didn’t really steal anything . They only shouted anti-gay slurs and shot the son of the actor.

That site is the worst kind of gutter 'journalism' & we know off the mark-they made up a ludicrous story about the child actress from Poltergeist(without actually naming her or any of the supposed offenders) having been sodomised & abused to death by people in Hollywood that defied all logic-autopsy reports, doctors examinations & would have required hundreds of people to have kept quiet about that & the other kids supposedly being abused & the clues they were coming out with didn't fit her acting history either.

Who else was there around that heard homophobic slurs in this case? Who reported this to the police? Why was only Cole shot & not Rollins if they were so incensed by them supposedly being gay?

If the supposed lawyer running this site is so sure of his facts then why doesn't he come out & name names & provide facts? Because he sails as close to the wind as possible without quite crossing the line by naming people to where he could have his ass sued into oblivion & only uses names when the story is already out there via police reports-like Don Henley.

Didn't they not take anything because Cole was shot outside and Rollins made a run for it out the back door? Seems like they would want to get out of the area after shooting Cole and not stick around to steal things.

Very tragic that JC lost his life in an apparent attempted mugging, right outside his home. This sounds like a rough area, so it's unfortunately not that surprising that it happened. I suspect the perps. are probably deceased at this point.

It's interesting that this case has connections with two "famous" people; i.e., musician/songwriter Henry Rollins (JC's room-mate at the time) and JC's actor father, the late Dennis Cole - who I admit I had never heard of prior to seeing this UM segment ( even though I'm a big TV show/movie fan).

Didn't they not take anything because Cole was shot outside and Rollins made a run for it out the back door? Seems like they would want to get out of the area after shooting Cole and not stick around to steal things.

Exactly. They knew that Rollins had escaped and the police would be swarming the area soon. Otherwise, robbery was almost certainly the motive. Since Rollins heard a scuffle before the fatal shot, it sounds like Joe might have resisted (perhaps because he figured he and his friend would be shot inside the house). This led to the shot and nothing being taken from inside the house.

Unless someone talks or there's some sort of ballistics link to a suspect's gun/DNA, this one seems unlikely to be solved after nearly 30 years.