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TITAN89Fan
02-06-2007, 11:11 PM
I'll have to go with Hawkeye NOT getting to eat the ribs in "Adams Ribs".

For my money????......I wish I could have seen him with sauce all over his face wonderin' how in the world he could have forgotten the coleslaw.

Great episode.

jim

Chocolate Moose
02-07-2007, 11:53 AM
One of my all time favorites, but I think they cut it down a little; I remember Hawkeye dancing in the mess tent, decreeing "we want something else"....and i didn't see any of that last night.

M*A*R*G*A*R*E*T
02-07-2007, 07:41 PM
Definaltey Henry being killed off...Col. Potter's okay, but after that it was just a totally diferent M*A*S*H! Radar leaving was another big one.

Scoobiedoo30
02-08-2007, 02:16 AM
none for me

tdf4077
02-08-2007, 11:06 PM
Well, for me it would be that Wayne never really had a good bye episode. I completely understand and everything, but Trap deserved that much at least.

treky
02-09-2007, 01:53 AM
THE ALAN ALDA SHOW-that says it all:mad:

Adamantium
02-09-2007, 05:31 PM
Well, for me it would be that Wayne never really had a good bye episode. I completely understand and everything, but Trap deserved that much at least.

I agree with that one. I would liked to have seen more of him after Henry's death. Because once the death was announced, we just saw Trapper, with his mask on, in the operating room.

I also agree with the first post. I hate that ending, where he doesn't get to eat the ribs. I mean he suffers enough on a daily basis - give him the ribs!

treky
02-10-2007, 02:32 AM
One of my all time favorites, but I think they cut it down a little; I remember Hawkeye dancing in the mess tent, decreeing "we want something else"....and i didn't see any of that last night.
you're right; there is a scene like that that's cut out in sydnication and can only be seen on the DVD.

Chocoholic
02-10-2007, 12:33 PM
I also would have liked to have seen Trapper get a proper farewell. Personally, I'd be a lot happier if he never left the show in the first place.

I also think poor Hawkeye should have gotten to dig into those ribs.

Henry's death on the way home was a major disappointment. I wouldn't have changed that ending though.

HelloLarry
02-12-2007, 02:42 AM
I think the way they handled Franks departure was a little lame too. They could've given him a few special guest star spots like they did Gary Burghoff (with the obligatory larger font as well) but I think the whole thing rang false to me.

I think there are hits of how dangerous the Frank character could be toward the end of Season 5. I think the way they handle his small breakdown in the episode where Hot Lips gets engaged is well done. However, in the movie...the Frank character really loses it and gets hauled away in a strait jacket. In the series, his actions happen all off camera and they talk about all these lame things that he's doing which to me is a jumping of the shark of some sorts. You know what I mean?...where characters start inventing things they used to do or old nicknames or old school buddies with terrible nicknames as a plot contrivance.

I just thought the Frank characters departure desevered a bit more respect and you see only glimpses of it, unfortunately. I think Larry Linville would've done a great job and it would have made a better point about another tragedy of war which is the direction the show was going in anyway. I just thought after Hot Lips got engaged, the Frank character was wasted. He became more childish and less menacing. He'd walk in the swamp, irritate Hawkeye and BJ, and then be told to get lost.

I also agree...Trappers departure could've been handled better and again, another lame off camera explanation of what happened.

hippiechick60
02-14-2007, 07:18 PM
ok yeah i agree with some of ya! i mean yeah ok maybe the could have had more on the whole Henry leaveing and yeah it did sort of go down hill when Radar left too! but guys the only reason that Frank wasn't at his own "written out thing" was because he was too sick to do it remeber i think they all said something about him being in the hospital or something like that! so you see thats why it was so "lame" cause Frank couldn't make it in! now maybe they could have done it before hand but.....anyway and yeah they could have made trapper leaveing a bit better i mean i don't know why he didn't stick around but i think it would have been nice if Hawkeye could have gotten a chance to say good bye to him or something! but he did give Hawkeye a "kiss" lol that was funny!

tdf4077
02-17-2007, 12:32 PM
I just thought the Frank characters departure desevered a bit more respect and you see only glimpses of it, unfortunately. I think Larry Linville would've done a great job and it would have made a better point about another tragedy of war which is the direction the show was going in anyway. I just thought after Hot Lips got engaged, the Frank character was wasted. He became more childish and less menacing. He'd walk in the swamp, irritate Hawkeye and BJ, and then be told to get lost.



I like the idea of showing how Frank's breakdown could have been another example of the horrors and tragedies of war...it would have brought the point home more I think.

AKA
03-01-2007, 03:40 AM
I agree with Trapper not getting a proper send-off. That was a big bummer. I blame that more on Wayne Rogers' decision to leave than I do Gelbart, Reynolds; et. al.

Best Man
03-02-2007, 05:30 PM
For watchers of the earliest MASH eps it maybe both the disappearance of Lt. Dish (she's actually the lady in just about all the opening credits whose running with Hawk to the helicopter) and the explained disappearance of nurse Margie Cutler (Hawk lied and told her he was married). The two ladies were good characters and at least somewhat hot. A third rate disappointment is certainly we never got in any way to meet Daniel Pierce, Hawk's dad (not even in the creepy Dreams ep).

Best Man
03-02-2007, 05:33 PM
I also would have liked to have seen Trapper get a proper farewell. Personally, I'd be a lot happier if he never left the show in the first place.

I also think poor Hawkeye should have gotten to dig into those ribs.

Henry's death on the way home was a major disappointment. I wouldn't have changed that ending though.
Hawk could have had Igor reheat the ribs after they did surgery and then he ate them.

treky
03-03-2007, 01:31 AM
For watchers of the earliest MASH eps it maybe both the disappearance of Lt. Dish (she's actually the lady in just about all the opening credits whose running with Hawk to the helicopter) and the explained disappearance of nurse Margie Cutler (Hawk lied and told her he was married). The two ladies were good characters and at least somewhat hot. A third rate disappointment is certainly we never got in any way to meet Daniel Pierce, Hawk's dad (not even in the creepy Dreams ep).well; as for Margie Cutler; she left the army; got in a time machine; transported herself ahead to the mid-70s; moved to New York; and married Gabe Kotter:lol: :lol:

Best Man
05-10-2007, 05:49 PM
Speaking of the dreams ep follow this if you can. Wouldn't it have been funny to learn that boy supposed to be Potter as akid is not Potter as akid but someone Potter himself saw in a movie! Surreal huh?

Dr. Thong
05-10-2007, 07:13 PM
Better yet, Potter wakes up from the dream to realize...he's not really Colonel Potter. He's really a crazy general who dreamed that he was Colonel of a M*A*S*H unit.

Best Man
05-11-2007, 02:31 PM
Better yet, Potter wakes up from the dream to realize...he's not really Colonel Potter. He's really a crazy general who dreamed that he was Colonel of a M*A*S*H unit.

Original Thong. Hey have General Steele be in the rubber truck when he wakes and realizes this and have him looking out a small window and see Hawk and Blake standing around talking implying Blake's death was Steele's dream. And have BJ and Charles turn out to be the rubber truck drivers.

Dr. Thong
05-12-2007, 05:31 PM
Original Thong. Hey have General Steele be in the rubber truck when he wakes and realizes this and have him looking out a small window and see Hawk and Blake standing around talking implying Blake's death was Steele's dream. And have BJ and Charles turn out to be the rubber truck drivers.

It's clear that Best Man has gone over the edge and must be stopped.

One disappointment that has nothing to do with the show itself is the handling of the bonus material in the complete series DVD box set. They are making the bonus material available to those of us who bought the DVD sets as they were released, but by making us pay - again - for it.

To get the "bonus" material DVDs, I would have to spend another $30 to get the Goodbye, Farewell And Amen DVD that's coming out Tuesday. I already own the farewell episode, why would I want to buy it again??

No thanks.

Best Man
05-18-2007, 04:06 PM
I'm merely pointing out where Steele may get the images of BJ and Charles for his long dream!

blackbeard
06-16-2007, 07:29 AM
I'll have to go with Hawkeye NOT getting to eat the ribs in "Adams Ribs".

For my money????......I wish I could have seen him with sauce all over his face wonderin' how in the world he could have forgotten the coleslaw.

Great episode.

jim

I always wondered why he didn't just rip a hunk of the ribs off the rack and eat it on the way to the OR, He had to wash his hands anyway before surgery.

Dr. Thong
06-16-2007, 10:09 AM
I always wondered why he didn't just rip a hunk of the ribs off the rack and eat it on the way to the OR, He had to wash his hands anyway before surgery.

I know what you mean. But of course, the irony of not getting to eat the ribs after all the maneuvering Hawkeye had to do is kind of funny too. The first time I saw it, I said "Oh, no!":D

Best Man
06-20-2007, 01:15 PM
I know what you mean. But of course, the irony of not getting to eat the ribs after all the maneuvering Hawkeye had to do is kind of funny too. The first time I saw it, I said "Oh, no!":D

Didn't Henry and/or Trap grab Hawk and make him leave for OR? Anyway in the course of viewer imagination Hawk got to always eat them after surgery.

TJAMES03
06-20-2007, 01:40 PM
WR not having a goodbye episode (but neither did Frank) is too bad. I guess that you could rationalize it by Trapper wanting out of Korea so bad that he just left ASAP (even Hawkeye mentioned that Trapper never even said goodbye in the final episode of M*A*S*H).

blackbeard
06-20-2007, 01:43 PM
Didn't Henry and/or Trap grab Hawk and make him leave for OR? Anyway in the course of viewer imagination Hawk got to always eat them after surgery.

I always figured the Sgt that Hawkeye had to share the ribs with to get them out of the HQ Depot snuke into the camp while they were in the OR and snagged them all for himself. If I remember correctly, he was from Joliet and said he would crawl on his hands and knees through a snowstorm to get an order from Adams Ribs. lmao

Mikado
06-20-2007, 02:40 PM
Radar's leaving , thats when the show really Jumped the Shark
It was also a shame that Larry Linville left the show, Frank Burns was my favorite character.....lets face it, the "Charles" character was NO villain compared to good ol' Frank in his heyday......not even close!

BeatleMoe
07-06-2007, 07:32 AM
I had read in a book about MASH as far as the Trapper and Frank Burns demises were met: While McLean Stevenson made it clear he was wasn't returning after season three, Wayne Rogers decided not to leave until it was near time to start filming season four. It was almost like a last minute thing. Larry Linville also stated that season five was it for him, and he considered coming back for the season six premiere to be written off, but decided against it. I do agree that both characters should have had proper goodbyes. Trapper's leaving was sad, and I never realized it until someone pointing out that showing Frank go crazy before he left would have illustrated a tragedy of war. I think they played his exit for laughs, but now it got me thinking a bit.

Dr. Thong
07-06-2007, 07:11 PM
I had read in a book about MASH as far as the Trapper and Frank Burns demises were met: While McLean Stevenson made it clear he was wasn't returning after season three, Wayne Rogers decided not to leave until it was near time to start filming season four. It was almost like a last minute thing. Larry Linville also stated that season five was it for him, and he considered coming back for the season six premiere to be written off, but decided against it. I do agree that both characters should have had proper goodbyes. Trapper's leaving was sad, and I never realized it until someone pointing out that showing Frank go crazy before he left would have illustrated a tragedy of war. I think they played his exit for laughs, but now it got me thinking a bit.

Well, if you watch some of the season five episodes, Frank was starting to lose it. After learning of Margaret's engagement, he arrested a harmless Korean family and their Ox as "subversives" and when confronted by it by Potter, Hawkeye & B.J., he aimed a gun at them. Radar's quick thinking - he called Frank's Mother - saved the day.

And while Linville's last episode wasn't technically a farewell, he did have to confront the fact that Margaret was now married and that they'd never be together again. In fact, saying "farewell" to their relationship once and for all.

The season five finale was probably the only time I actually felt sorry for Frank. I think Linville realized that the character had been painted into a corner - Frank would never be able to grow or show different sides of himself - and decided it was time to move on.