a debate been going on for months on the good times board. so my question is is Good Times A Spinoff of maude?

it have said all over the internet that good times is a spinoff of maude and books have said so and norman lear have said it was once.

I voted "no" and here's why:


1.) Florida's husband's name was Henry on "Maude", yet he was named James on "Good Times."

2.) There was never any mention of Florida ever being Maude's maid, nor of Florida and James (Henry) ever living in Harlem. "Good Times" firmly established that the Evans family had lived in Chicago without ever having lived elsewhere.

3.) Calling "Good Times" a spin-off of "Maude" is not incorrect, but technically, they took a character from another series and created an entirely new backstory without regard for how it would contradict what had been establised on "Maude."

4.) In an interview I read about the creation of the series, Eric Monte and Mike Evans (yes, Lionel from "The Jeffersons") had not conceived the show as a starring vehicle for Esther Rolle. They took their spec script to Norman Lear and he gave it back to them with some notes and ideas of his own. It was Lear's idea to structure the series around the character of Florida.

NOT AGAIN!

There are at least 5 threads of this same topic. :lol: And those 5 threads are the most posted ones on GOOD TIMES. :lol:

and pleeaaaaaaaaaaaase for the love of God, don't let Sol chime in on this one!!!! :lol:

and pleeaaaaaaaaaaaase for the love of God, don't let Sol chime in on this one!!!! :lol:
:brent

LOL. I still think "YES" and I will probably think that until my grave.

and pleeaaaaaaaaaaaase for the love of God, don't let Sol chime in on this one!!!! :lol:


I wonder who will be the one to spill the beans? You are saying everything that the rest of us are thinking.:lol:

I wonder who will be the one to spill the beans? You are saying everything that the rest of us are thinking.:lol:


i'll never tell! :brent

I think he knows of this thread. ;)

i'll never tell! :brent


Thank You, Irene, just because he was seen lurking around this board this afternoon does not meant that he knows...nah. I didn't by my bull either.:lol:

He knows!

it have said all over the internet that good times is a spinoff of maude and books have said so and norman lear have said it was once.


Someone asking you your opinion on whether Good Times is a spinoff of Maude is like asking a 14 year old Girl who has the the best NBA player in the last 10 years.

Someone asking you your opinion on whether Good Times is a spinoff of Maude is like asking a 14 year old Girl who has the the best NBA player in the last 10 years.


Solomon, there is no need to say that. That is her opinion. You can't make people agree with you. If you want to continue to think that the show is not, then you can. I respect the fact that you don't get influenced by others, but you stand on something that you believe and for that, I will not insult you. I just say let this be bro. ;)

Hey now Sol, that was kinda rude......

Hey now Sol, that was kinda rude......


I'm sorry but when I saw this topic created again I just couldn't believe. I thought it was over and done with

never mind.....

Solomon, if you feel like the issue is old, just don't respond. LOL. No worries, dude.

It is a Spinoff

It is a Spinoff


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Why would you bump up a old thread to say something STUPID?? You add nothing to this site and wish you leave


Solomon, you know better than that. No need to be rude. Even I was like "oh, no". The topic is out of the coma...again". But "Jeffersons Fan" is within right to post.

Solomon, you know better than that. No need to be rude. Even I was like "oh, no". The topic is out of the coma...again". But "Jeffersons Fan" is within right to post.


I'm just post with a reason you feel the way you do since you are bumping up a old thread

I'm just post with a reason you feel the way you do since you are bumping up a old thread


Turn the other cheek bro. LOL. I'm afraid you'll scare people into not posting because they will worry about negatives responses.

As moderator of the board, I'm stopping into say keep it civil. We might not always agree with other posters, but everyone is welcomed here as long as they abide by the rules.

Jefferson Fan, I hope you keep posting dude. Do your thing.

All the nitpicking about the minor changes of Florida and James (Henry) Evans from Good Times seem trivial compared to this. Blanksy's Beauties was a spinoff from Happy Days. Nancy Blansky (Nancy Walker) visited her cousin Howard Cunningham on one episode of Happy Days the week before the debut of Blansky's Beauties. Garry Marshall had Nancy Walker appear on Happy Days for the sole purpose of having Blansky's Beauties qualify as a Happy Days spinoff to give it a better chance of survival because Happy Days was a huge hit (like Maude). Only problem: Blansky's Beauties was set in then present time (1977) and Happy Days was set in the late 50's. This is a far greater inconsistency than any changes that occurred betweeen Maude and Good Times.

To argue that Good Times is not a spinoff of Maude, you would also have to argue that Blansky's Beauties is not a spinoff of Happy Days. If this is the case, then why would Garry Marshall have Nancy Walker film an episode of Happy Days as the Nancy Blansky character to have it qualify as a spinoff despite the ridiculous time changes?

The case is finally closed!

All the nitpicking about the minor changes of Florida and James (Henry) Evans from Good Times seem trivial compared to this. Blanksy's Beauties was a spinoff from Happy Days. Nancy Blansky (Nancy Walker) visited her cousin Howard Cunningham on one episode of Happy Days the week before the debut of Blansky's Beauties. Garry Marshall had Nancy Walker appear on Happy Days for the sole purpose of having Blansky's Beauties qualify as a Happy Days spinoff to give it a better chance of survival because Happy Days was a huge hit (like Maude). Only problem: Blansky's Beauties was set in then present time (1977) and Happy Days was set in the late 50's. This is a far greater inconsistency than any changes that occurred betweeen Maude and Good Times.

To argue that Good Times is not a spinoff of Maude, you would also have to argue that Blansky's Beauties is not a spinoff of Happy Days. If this is the case, then why would Garry Marshall have Nancy Walker film an episode of Happy Days as the Nancy Blansky character to have it qualify as a spinoff despite the ridiculous time changes?

The case is finally closed!


First of all welcome to the boards,

also, why would the Evans move from Harlem to live a Chicago Ghetto?

Also Blansky Beauties wasn;t a spinoff of Happy Days and we can debate on the spinoff board

HERE IS A CHALLENGE! Over 20 years ago Gimme A Break was on every day after school. Later at night Maude reruns were on. One night I watched Maude and the very next day GAB had almost the exact same episode, word for word for over 80% of the show. I'm too lazy to do it myself but I challenge someone to find the episode guides for GAB and Maude and discover which episode this is.

I voted "no" and here's why:

2.) There was never any mention of Florida ever being Maude's maid, nor of Florida and James (Henry) ever living in Harlem. "Good Times" firmly established that the Evans family had lived in Chicago without ever having lived elsewhere.


Actually, there was an episode of Good Times in which Florida said, "I was the best damn maid there ever was" or something along those lines. It was in one of the earlier episodes, but I remember applause from the audience.

Actually, there was an episode of Good Times in which Florida said, "I was the best damn maid there ever was" or something along those lines. It was in one of the earlier episodes, but I remember applause from the audience.

It still maid no sense because she was living in a chicago ghetto and was supposed to be a maid in NY.

The line was never supposed to be in the script

It still maid no sense because she was living in a chicago ghetto and was supposed to be a maid in NY.

The line was never supposed to be in the script

You guys are overanalyzing the situation. Some things in Television don't make sense and are non traditional. ;)

How do you know that the line was never supposed to be in the script? :confused:

You guys are overanalyzing the situation. Some things in Television don't make sense and are non traditional. ;)

How do you know that the line was never supposed to be in the script? :confused:


Until someone can tell me how a poor family of 5 can move from NYC to Chicagom this will always be a everlasting TV Debate

Until someone can tell me how a poor family of 5 can move from NYC to Chicagom this will always be a everlasting TV Debate

You are still overanalyzing Solomon my friend. Even Norman Lear reluctantly admitted to it being a spinoff. Debate all you wish but it is what it is...and its a spinoff. :lol:


P.S. How are you Sol? I hand't spoken to you in a minute.

You are still overanalyzing Solomon my friend. Even Norman Lear reluctantly admitted to it being a spinoff. Debate all you wish but it is what it is...and its a spinoff. :lol:


P.S. How are you Sol? I hand't spoken to you in a minute.


I spend 95% of my time on a new message board called city-data. It's similar to this board but it has message board for everything besides TV. Thi board seems to be inactive everyday which means S.O. has jumped the sharklol

The best era for this site was 2003-2006

Not sure what happened after that

I spend 95% of my time on a new message board called city-data. It's similar to this board but it has message board for everything besides TV. Thi board seems to be inactive everyday which means S.O. has jumped the sharklol

The best era for this site was 2003-2006

Not sure what happened after that


LOL. I was wondering why you slowed down on the posting.

LOL. I was wondering why you slowed down on the posting.


Well you played a part in the slow demise of this site too-lol You disappear for weeks then come back out of no where-lol That's what happens, lots of pople leave and some don't return. Like Irene and Brianna

Remember them?

Well you played a part in the slow demise of this site too-lol You disappear for weeks then come back out of no where-lol That's what happens, lots of pople leave and some don't return. Like Irene and Brianna

Remember them?


Dude, I will never leave the site. I don't frequently post as much due to a hectic work schedule. Besides, I been doing it like this for a long, long time. I periodically check in. I will always be an active member of Sitcoms on line. I do post in remote parts of the boards where you will never find my posts unless you check out the specific section. Irene decided not to come back and its been almost two years since she made that decision. I still talk with her every now and again. Don't know about Brie though. I will admit that I have not been on the boards as much lately though. It's like a TV show a character is still in the opening credits although they miss a few episodes. :lol:

Dude, I will never leave the site. I don't frequently post as much due to a hectic work schedule. Besides, I been doing it like this for a long, long time. I periodically check in. I will always be an active member of Sitcoms on line. I do post in remote parts of the boards where you will never find my posts unless you check out the specific section. Irene decided not to come back and its been almost two years since she made that decision. I still talk with her every now and again. Don't know about Brie though. I will admit that I have not been on the boards as much lately though. It's like a TV show a character is still in the opening credits although they miss a few episodes. :lol:


Here is what I think is the big reason why I don't post as much. Because since this is a TV Site and no one is talking about TV then the site starts to become pointless-lol The Jeffersons Board was inactive even in 2004-lol I guess there are not a lot of fans of the show on this site. I even got into THE OFFICE and that board is inactive. Seems like the Chit Board is the boards that will always be active

True to the Chit Chat board. You did call it out on many levels.

True to the Chit Chat board. You did call it out on many levels.


Here is why the city data board is so time consuming. Because it has a message board for every state and city in the US. Not only that it has messagae boards for

Automotive
Business/Investing
Education
Entertainment
Exercise
Fashion
Food and Drink
Garden
Genealogy
Great Debates
Gree Living
Health and Wellness
History
Hobbies
House
Military Life
Parenting
Pets
Photography
Real Estate
Relationships/Dating
Renting
Retirement
Sciene/Technology
Sports
Travel
Weather
Work and Employment



See what i mean?-lol