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Brian Damage
12-03-2006, 12:07 PM
This is one of my all time favorite episodes. It had a great combination of comedy and drama.

gilligan fanatic
12-03-2006, 12:58 PM
Too much drama for me. Still better than Beverly dieing. Christmas Day at the Bunkers is my favorite.

MikeLutton
12-03-2006, 01:19 PM
i never liked this episode too much drama for me n dont like hearing about the way n xmas come think of it did the bunkers ever have a good christmas lol

Brieannas21
12-03-2006, 03:46 PM
Too much drama for me. Still better than Beverly dieing. Christmas Day at the Bunkers is my favorite.


I have to agree, it was way better than the Beverly LaSalle episode, that episode was just plain sad and depressing.

Lamont
12-03-2006, 10:56 PM
both are EXCELLENT episodes

The Draft Dodger was SO POWERFUL at the time because of all the tensions and divisions in the nation

BUT at the same time when Beverly was killed and Edith lost faith--- that wa a classic too and i loved how Mike, the Atheist was the one to restore ediths faith with his speech about God and how he viewed God (if there was one) through edith

TVFactFan
12-04-2006, 12:30 AM
I thought Archie was going to pop a Blood Vessel in Draft Dodger-lol

snl 70s show fan
12-04-2006, 01:11 AM
I thought Archie was going to pop a Blood Vessel in Draft Dodger-lolme too but i agree with you solomon it was one of the all time best eps.

Brian Damage
12-04-2006, 01:12 AM
I thought Archie was going to pop a Blood Vessel in Draft Dodger-lol

Yeah, I never saw Archie react that way for anything. lol

MikeLutton
12-04-2006, 01:18 AM
well expect the time when he saw the picture of Lionel and his neice together sitting on a chair i thought he pop a vaine that time lol

Brieannas21
12-04-2006, 01:26 AM
well expect the time when he saw the picture of Lionel and his neice together sitting on a chair i thought he pop a vaine that time lol


Or the time when he found out that in Gloria and Mikes will, that they were leaving baby Joey to mike's and Gloria friends LOL.

Already Gone
12-24-2006, 06:17 PM
I like this episode. The mix of comedy and drama made it a classic. If it wasn't for Pinky Peterson, I'm sure that Archie would have kicked David out of the house.

HelloLarry
12-26-2006, 09:20 PM
Ive never seen it documented anywhere but does anyone know why Archie's 'freak out' is censored?

He clearly says "Goddamn It" but "rotten damn" was overdubbed in (I assume) post production.

I just found it strange because AITF already broke that taboo three seasons earlier in the "We're Having a Heat Wave" episode and its not as if they abused saying Goddman it after that.

Now this is just a theory and we won't know until the episode is officially released in the season 7 set but was this re-recorded for syndication? Originally, whenever We're Having a Heat Wave aired, that scene with Archie saying GD was cut (it was restored in favor of editing out other scenes when it first played Nick at Nite back in the late 90s). Or is it possible that the network didn't want that said in a Christmas episode? I know that may be a little far fetched after how many barriers the season broke down by season 7 but its just another thought.

I just got through reading the book about Norman Lear and the author makes mention (or suggests) that Archie does indeed say GD in the Draft Dodger episode and he clearly does...however it is dubbed over.

The overdub...for me, actually takes a small bite out of the punch of his delivery. His tone clearly drops in the overdub and then goes back up when it goes back to the original audio.

Anyone have any knowledge or input on this?

Thanks....Happy Holidays!

mstewart
12-26-2006, 11:47 PM
This is one of my all time favorite episodes. It had a great combination of comedy and drama.
It was mine too in that season given it was one of the worst seasons of the show. In that particular episode Carroll O'Connor turned in a powerful performance as Archie Bunker. I felt the power of his wage and passion about dodging the draft. I believe the audience felt the power too when he went off. Carroll's face transformed when he went into a rage about the war and it was not one of Archie Bunker's usual rants and putting his foot in his mouth but it was a issue strong passion. Carroll brought that out in his performance.
That episode definitely belonged to Carroll.

mrbig
01-04-2007, 07:52 AM
This is one of my all time favorite episodes. It had a great combination of comedy and drama.
It was a great reflection in history with the vietam war... I agree with knowing how patriotic was I also thought he was going pop a blood vessel.. I think that was one of the 1st times I
heard archie swear using the GD word refering to the vietam war.

An 80s Guy
01-04-2007, 05:14 PM
clearly[/I] says "Goddamn It" but "rotten damn" was overdubbed in (I assume) post production.


They usually censor"God Damn" nowadays because it's breaking one of the ten commandments "Thy shall not use the Lord's name in vain".

HelloLarry
01-05-2007, 02:01 AM
They usually censor"God Damn" nowadays because it's breaking one of the ten commandments "Thy shall not use the Lord's name in vain".

If that is truly the case (and no offense but I don't believe it is) then why is it allowed to air unedited when they show the episode "We're Having a Heat Wave"?

Ignatowski
07-21-2011, 04:52 PM
This is one of my all time favorite episodes. It had a great combination of comedy and drama.

This is easily in my top 5 fave episodes. I usually dont like toooo much drama in a sitcom, but this one was fine with me. I liked both sides of the arguments and just thought it was well put together. Renny Templeton too I liked for whatever reason--anyone remember the verrry brief show he was in called L.A.T.E.R , The Life and Times of Eddie Roberts!!??

70s show watcher
07-21-2011, 07:45 PM
Ive never seen it documented anywhere but does anyone know why Archie's 'freak out' is censored?

He clearly says "Goddamn It" but "rotten damn" was overdubbed in (I assume) post production.

I just found it strange because AITF already broke that taboo three seasons earlier in the "We're Having a Heat Wave" episode and its not as if they abused saying Goddman it after that.

Now this is just a theory and we won't know until the episode is officially released in the season 7 set but was this re-recorded for syndication? Originally, whenever We're Having a Heat Wave aired, that scene with Archie saying GD was cut (it was restored in favor of editing out other scenes when it first played Nick at Nite back in the late 90s). Or is it possible that the network didn't want that said in a Christmas episode? I know that may be a little far fetched after how many barriers the season broke down by season 7 but its just another thought.

I just got through reading the book about Norman Lear and the author makes mention (or suggests) that Archie does indeed say GD in the Draft Dodger episode and he clearly does...however it is dubbed over.

The overdub...for me, actually takes a small bite out of the punch of his delivery. His tone clearly drops in the overdub and then goes back up when it goes back to the original audio.

Anyone have any knowledge or input on this?

Thanks....Happy Holidays!it was because the ep aired on christmas night in 1976 and cbs understandably was worried about the angry mail and phone calls that they were sure to recive if archie took the lords name in an ep airing on christmas night