I do not mind debating when i disagree

i do it a lot in real life and on sites

BUT

DOES anyone else here find it SOOOOO Frustrating when u are debating something with someone
and they are losing the discussion
and so INSTEAD Of arguing logically or intelligently

they just decide to insult you??? or try to change the subject completely?????

its so annoying, like they are not bright enough to discuss it so they want to resort to name calling

EXAMPLE---

Global warming is a serious issue because.... and u give them facts and statistics
and they reply

"YEAH, WELL YOUR MOTHER IS FAT!"

and i just shake my head

anyone else find that kind of juvenile non-discussion annoying?

I do not mind debating when i disagree

i do it a lot in real life and on sites

BUT

DOES anyone else here find it SOOOOO Frustrating when u are debating something with someone
and they are losing the discussion
and so INSTEAD Of arguing logically or intelligently

they just decide to insult you??? or try to change the subject completely?????

its so annoying, like they are not bright enough to discuss it so they want to resort to name calling

EXAMPLE---

Global warming is a serious issue because.... and u give them facts and statistics
and they reply

"YEAH, WELL YOUR MOTHER IS FAT!"

and i just shake my head

anyone else find that kind of juvenile non-discussion annoying?



I hate that too. Drives Me up a Wall

:yeahthat

:hello

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

That is annoying as hell, but as soon as someone brings my mother up, i'm cracking skulls, dead serious!

Lamont, it is obvious why you made this thread. You know Solomon visits the Chit Chat board. Another reason to cause trouble was this thread.

Don't worry Matt, there won't be any trouble on this thread. This moderator is home all day in rainy Beantown. The first personal attack, under lock and key it goes.

Don't worry Matt, there won't be any trouble on this thread. This moderator is home all day in rainy Beantown. The first personal attack, under lock and key it goes.

We are suppose to get that storm latter today. Sounds like it will be a huge storm.

We are suppose to get that storm latter today. Sounds like it will be a huge storm.
It's bad here and getting worse. We've got some weather warning advisory going on. It's rainy and windy. It's so dark outside that it looks like it's dusk. Dismal, raw, terrible day here.

It's bad here and getting worse. We've got some weather warning advisory going on. It's rainy and windy. It's so dark outside that it looks like it's dusk. Dismal, raw, terrible day here.

Yuck, it is sunny here now, but I don't think it will be for long if we get that.

How cold is it there? I know you guys have to worry about freezing rain and what not.

Don't worry Matt, there won't be any trouble on this thread. This moderator is home all day in rainy Beantown. The first personal attack, under lock and key it goes.
:eek: :eek: Oh Oh, watch out you guys, you better behave!!!!

Good one Janice!:lol: :D

Yuck, it is sunny here now, but I don't think it will be for long if we get that.

How cold is it there? I know you guys have to worry about freezing rain and what not.
Actually, it's 53 degrees, but it feels cold.

Actually, it's 53 degrees, but it feels cold.

53 is cold-lol

Actually Gilligan Fanatic, it might be obvious to you
but if u read the post, i made NO PERSONAL mention of any members and no personal insults, and i wont do so, i didnt want this to be a LAMONT vs ________ thread at all,
it might be true that SOME MEMBERS fit the category more than others, but i would not call anyone out ( I WILL SAY THAT IF YOU ASSUME it is about ONE MEMBER in particular, perhaps that relates more to YOUR OPINION of that member then to the thread itself)

YES it is true, that sometimes on these boards, SOME members fall into that category
BUTTTTT its like that in real life all the time

at work, there are people I have to supervise and you will try to explain to them what they are doing wrong, or what they need to do to improve their job performance, and out of the blue they will say to me "WELL, JOE WAS LATE 2 TIMES LAST WEEK!" and im like, OK great, what does that have to do with why you are a bad employee? and they will answer back "YOU JUST DONT LIKE ME!" and on and on

they wont DEAL with the issue and they try to change the subject or jump on someone else instead of discussing the matter

it makes me want to pull my hair out!

it is annoying when it happens on the boards, BUT i can just not read them if i choose, Its EVEN WORSE in real life, because there is no IGNORE button when it comes to 1 on 1 interactions

Actually Gilligan Fanatic, it might be obvious to you
but if u read the post, i made NO PERSONAL mention of any members and no personal insults, and i wont do so, i didnt want this to be a LAMONT vs ________ thread at all,
it might be true that SOME MEMBERS fit the category more than others, but i would not call anyone out ( I WILL SAY THAT IF YOU ASSUME it is about ONE MEMBER in particular, perhaps that relates more to YOUR OPINION of that member then to the thread itself)

YES it is true, that sometimes on these boards, SOME members fall into that category
BUTTTTT its like that in real life all the time

at work, there are people I have to supervise and you will try to explain to them what they are doing wrong, or what they need to do to improve their job performance, and out of the blue they will say to me "WELL, JOE WAS LATE 2 TIMES LAST WEEK!" and im like, OK great, what does that have to do with why you are a bad employee? and they will answer back "YOU JUST DONT LIKE ME!" and on and on

they wont DEAL with the issue and they try to change the subject or jump on someone else instead of discussing the matter

it makes me want to pull my hair out!

it is annoying when it happens on the boards, BUT i can just not read them if i choose, Its EVEN WORSE in real life, because there is no IGNORE button when it comes to 1 on 1 interactions



Are you a Writer for a Living? I see you love to write those LENGTHY RESPONSES. Just Curious

nope tvresearcher I am not
BUT i have found that if you are clear cut in your response
and try to give some BACK UP to your ideas (u know, facts, thoughts, opinions, etc) instead of just spouting out ideas with no merit and no logic to them----
that people tend to understand what u mean and why u feel that way

LOL

nope tvresearcher I am not
BUT i have found that if you are clear cut in your response
and try to give some BACK UP to your ideas (u know, facts, thoughts, opinions, etc) instead of just spouting out ideas with no merit and no logic to them----
that people tend to understand what u mean and why u feel that way

LOL


So is writing your hobby?

i answered this in reply # 15

thanks!

PS i do have many hobbies though--- parachuting, skiing, horseback riding, working out at the gym, and collecting pull string talking dolls from old tv shows and movies!

i answered this in reply # 15

thanks!

PS i do have many hobbies though--- parachuting, skiing, horseback riding, working out at the gym, and collecting pull string talking dolls from old tv shows and movies!


Well just was curious to know are your responses SO LONG if you don't like wrting. I mean you be going On and on and on and on and on and on-lOl

one mans "on and on"
is another mans "detailed reply"

its all in the perception

you say po-ta-toe, i say po-tah-toe

Are you a Writer for a Living? I see you love to write those LENGTHY RESPONSES. Just Curious


Naaah. He's just long winded and likes to think that he more intelligent that he really is.:D

Calm down now lamont. No need to get mad. I'm just playin' with ya!! I know how you like go off and pout.:D

Gee Bobby F, im so glad you chimed in on this one

Gee Bobby F, im so glad you chimed in on this one


Well thanks, lamont! I'm glad you made this "enlightening":rolleyes: ...thread that I could respond in.

Gee Bobby F, im so glad you chimed in on this one

Looks like you caught a fish this time Monty

Looks like you caught a fish this time Monty

And here I thought you and me were buds Lexy. Montys a big boy. He can handle his own discussions. He dosen't need his pet poodle watchdog to take up for him all the time.

And what's with the fish bit. It was complemental the first time but you're the one always talking about originality. Looks like your verbal judo went down to the chicken dance!:D

well i just hope that "ANY MEMBERS" who read this thread, who might fall into this trap sometime (of not actually debating someone, but simply insulting the person or of diversion) will try to make a concious effort not to

when i was captain of the debate team in college, the worst error anyone could ever make in a debate was to

focus on the person and not the issue
and
argue the messenger and not the message

its easy to do when people get all worked up, but in the end, it hurts your stand and makes your views look weak in the eyes of observers

well i just hope that "ANY MEMBERS" who read this thread, who might fall into this trap sometime (of not actually debating someone, but simply insulting the person or of diversion) will try to make a concious effort not to

when i was captain of the debate team in college, the worst error anyone could ever make in a debate was to

focus on the person and not the issue
and
argue the messenger and not the message

its easy to do when people get all worked up, but in the end, it hurts your stand and makes your views look weak in the eyes of observers

I'm just waiting for the next 5 to 10 page post of how we should all act according to Lamont. Those are always goooooood reading!!!

I'm just waiting for the next 5 to 10 page post of how we should all act according to Lamont. Those are always goooooood reading!!!


Thanks for proving my point 100%!

I do not need to go on for 5 more pages, when I have someone come along and prove my point exactly! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:cheers:

Thanks for proving my point 100%!

I do not need to go on for 5 more pages, when I have someone come along and prove my point exactly! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:cheers:

What you seem to not understand is that no one cares how you think it should be run. All it does is make you look like a constant whiner. It's like the little 6 year old who doesn't get their way with his classmates in kindergarden so he continues to be a pest and a little tattle tail.:lol::lol: :lol: :lol:

No, Bobby F--- YOU don't care how others choose to debate and disagree
that doesn't mean NO ONE cares---
read this thread, u will see that those who responded to it, agreed with me

and in real life, the kind of debating that "SOME PEOPLE" like to do, where they resort to personal attacks instead of logic, or "Low Blows" instead of facts, and "attacking the messenger" instead of addressing the message would never fly

if someone handled a problem at work like that, they would be fired
if a candidate handled a debate like that, he would lose
if my child tried to handle why he was in trouble that way, he'd get punished

i just wish everyone could act like an adult "online" as well as offline too

And for the record-- u have posted 5 times now on this thread, and not 1 time, have u actually addressed the issue or the point of it, the only comments u made at all
are just little jabs at me and cartoondvds? so i wonder 2 things--- 1. why even bother to join a thread if u dont care about the topic and just want to take potshots at those who do, and 2. how that looks to anyone who reads it?

No, Bobby F--- YOU don't care how others choose to debate and disagree
that doesn't mean NO ONE cares---
read this thread, u will see that those who responded to it, agreed with me

and in real life, the kind of debating that "SOME PEOPLE" like to do, where they resort to personal attacks instead of logic, or "Low Blows" instead of facts, and "attacking the messenger" instead of addressing the message would never fly

if someone handled a problem at work like that, they would be fired
if a candidate handled a debate like that, he would lose
if my child tried to handle why he was in trouble that way, he'd get punished

i just wish everyone could act like an adult "online" as well as offline too

Page 1 is complete!!! :lol: :lol:

Waiting on page 2!!!:D

I could read this quicker than a couple of Lamont's posts.

http://images.contentreserve.com/ImageType-100/0887-1/%7B97ABE6CD-7D83-475B-8278-210FB71B35DC%7DImg100.jpg

I could read this quicker than a couple of Lamont's posts.

http://images.contentreserve.com/ImageType-100/0887-1/%7B97ABE6CD-7D83-475B-8278-210FB71B35DC%7DImg100.jpg


:lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Or the complete set of Encyclopedia Brittanica.

PLEASE do me a favor, keep up the NO REPLY replies

it only serves to prove my point over and over about how some people just like to come to a thread and cause trouble and fight
and dont know how to discuss or disagree like adults

you are really helping me demonstrate how to NOT debate intelligently!

PLEASE do me a favor, keep up the NO REPLY replies

it only serves to prove my point over and over about how some people just like to come to a thread and cause trouble and fight
and dont know how to discuss or disagree like adults

you are really helping me demonstrate how to NOT debate intelligently!

Ok.


:crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:

Bobby F, I have always tried to handle myself like an adult with you, I have never used foul language and personal attacks on you and never harassed you--- but yet u continue to do so to me. We might not agree on politics, but people can disagree without being personally insulting. You came to this thread for the sole purpose of belittling me and making off topic, personal comments. You have posted 7 or 8 times on here and every one of them has just been a personal potshot. Every time that we have ever disagreed I have tried to explain my point of view like an adult, with facts and information to support my claim. Why can't you treat others with the same respect that they treat you?

Why do u insist on this type of ugliness?

And the people who read this thread, are not blind. They might not want to speak up and risk getting bashed, but I am sure that they can all see 2 things. I have tried to be nice, polite and not personal, and you on the other hand, just want to take it down to a schoolyard name calling match.

CAN WE PLEASE PUT A STOP TO THIS SILLINESS? and just agree to disagree? I'm sure everyone is sick of it

Bobby F, I have always tried to handle myself like an adult with you, I have never used foul language and personal attacks on you and never harassed you--- but yet u continue to do so to me. We might not agree on politics, but people can disagree without being personally insulting. You came to this thread for the sole purpose of belittling me and making off topic, personal comments. You have posted 7 or 8 times on here and every one of them has just been a personal potshot. Every time that we have ever disagreed I have tried to explain my point of view like an adult, with facts and information to support my claim. Why can't you treat others with the same respect that they treat you?

Why do u insist on this type of ugliness?

And the people who read this thread, are not blind. They might not want to speak up and risk getting bashed, but I am sure that they can all see 2 things. I have tried to be nice, polite and not personal, and you on the other hand, just want to take it down to a schoolyard name calling match.

Page 2 complete.:lol:

Waiting on page 3.

And here I thought you and me were buds Lexy. Montys a big boy. He can handle his own discussions. He dosen't need his pet poodle watchdog to take up for him all the time.

And what's with the fish bit. It was complemental the first time but you're the one always talking about originality. Looks like your verbal judo went down to the chicken dance!:D


Verbal Judo requires some intelligent banter, haven't seen that from you yet. I am sure you'll get there though practice makes perfect.

What you seem to not understand is that no one cares how you think it should be run. All it does is make you look like a constant whiner. It's like the little 6 year old who doesn't get their way with his classmates in kindergarden so he continues to be a pest and a little tattle tail.:lol::lol: :lol: :lol:

Have to disagree with you on this Bobby. I don't think it makes Lamont look like a whiner at all--and I do care how he thinks the thread/board should be run.

Verbal Judo requires some intelligent banter, haven't seen that from you yet. I am sure you'll get there though practice makes perfect.

Not talking about me there Lexy. It's about you. You know...that originallity thing you kept ranting about?? You seem to be slipping. But when you hang around with the crowd that you do it's not hard to understand why.

Geesh wouldn't u think that out of JUST ONE of his numerous comments there would be JUST ONE, that was actually about the topic and not just a potshot at someone??? What is this, third grade?

Geesh wouldn't u think that out of JUST ONE of his numerous comments there would be JUST ONE, that was actually about the topic and not just a potshot at someone??? What is this, third grade?

I thought it was 4th???:confused:

I thought it was 4th???:confused:


LOL-LOL

Not talking about me there Lexy. It's about you. You know...that originallity thing you kept ranting about?? You seem to be slipping. But when you hang around with the crowd that you do it's not hard to understand why.


Funny I have been hanging with you and Janice lately, what are you saying??

Funny I have been hanging with you and Janice lately, what are you saying??

My bad. I guess you've been too obsolete for us to even notice. Well anyway.....welcome to our world!!:happyface

Could you all please end the petty fighting? Bobby, quit with the insults, the same goes for cartoondvds.

As for Lamont, you aren't innocent either. Maybe you don't insult and cause trouble by blatantly saying something like Bobby or cartoondvds, but you do it in a sneaky hidden fashion.

This thread was nothing more than to incite. You do have a history of starting threads just so you can get a reaction that you want.

Over at TP, you went on for three pages badgering Solomon, when it wasn't even your fight. You also don't need to be reminded of that thread you started just so others could bad mouth Solomon.

You may not blatantly insult people, but you still cause trouble in a different way. It doesn't make you any better.

Sorry BD

I posted prior to seeing your request.

You will find that if you take the blinders off every once in awhile you might actually notice a lot of things.

Thanks for the Welcome though, the hospitality has been great! Ever think of running for an Ambassador position on Sitcoms?

I'm open to it. I could use a good campaign manager. Know of anyone??

Brian Damage I was told BY A MODERATOR in private emails (NOT FROM TRADING POST EITHER) that we were supposed to LET THE PAST GO a week or so ago, She Told me to start fresh, so i will ask u to do that too--- if u check my recent interactions with TVResearcher over at good times and spinoffs, u will see that they might disagree with him, but i am keeping it good natured and pleasant!

the situation u mention with solomon was handled MONTHS AGO by TJ and i apologized and then the big boss said PUBLICLY THEN that he wanted it dropped- so i would ask that we all drop it as it is months old and long since resolved

and yes some threads get heated and we all get riled up, but this is a case of 1 member just trying to be spiteful, if u read all the posts by Bobby F in this whole thread--- NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM RELATES TO THE TOPIC--- and EVERY SINGLE ONE is a potshot at someone--- at least when solomon and i argue, it relates to the topic and we try to handle it like grown ups--- as for being sneaky? i dont play that game anymore sir-- yes i did once before and i was wrong--- 100% wrong, i admitted i was wrong, i apologized for it, publicly and privately to the parties involved, and i took my punishment and moved on with it

all i am asking here is for us all to agree to disagree---- so bobby f doesnt like me or cartoondvds--- so noted, but can we just move on now and act like grownups? We can argue all day, and i can take it-- i just think we can do it without the name calling, I do appreciate the chit chat boards and im trying to broaden my horizons past the trading post

I've never seen anything like it on these boards, the way Lamont is constantly whining and telling others how to behave. I'm surprised he gets away with it. If this was my site, I'd tell him to lay off the constant criticism. It's not as if I read them anymore. A quick glance tells me it's another sermon. It's really insane. There ought to be a rule against it. It makes the place look bad.

im not telling anyone any way to behave that is not clearly spelled out in the rules of the site sir, and since a moderator clearly asked for the petty fighting to stop on this thread, i will not say anything else, thanks!

I frequent a couple of other message boards [politics, sports, a few others] and none of them has a member running around from forum to forum reading anyone the riot act. Just about every post I read that you make, you're going off on someone, telling somebody how to behave, reciting the rules, it's crazy. Jumping in on fight threads that don't concern you. You'd be banned at any other decent site. You should thank your lucky stars Lamont that TJ is easy going. You give me a splitting headache.

i will not say anything else, thanks!

Place your bets here

THE MONEY LINE

Lamont, Will Not Comment Again +170
Lamont, Will Comment Again -185

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Place your bets here

THE MONEY LINE

Lamont, Will Not Comment Again +170
Lamont, Will Comment Again -155


Joker you are WILD

Hope TJ reads this or someone reports it to him so he sees it's not the members ot the trading forum that institute the fights but "the headless horsemen" who go from site to site taking potshots whenever they can. Now, Brian tell me how I'm out of line but it's perfectly acceptable for fox new rules to just pop in and stick his toilet mouth in the fray. But I'm out of line. I get more reality out of little Red riding hood. Bobby F is in a class, no class doesn't fit him by himself. Pages and pages of insults but one word in the trading forum and you Brian are up in arms. Look up the word hypocrite.

Harvey

Hope TJ reads this or someone reports it to him so he sees it's not the members ot the trading forum that institute the fights but "the headless horsemen" who go from site to site taking potshots whenever they can. Now, Brian tell me how I'm out of line but it's perfectly acceptable for fox new rules to just pop in and stick his toilet mouth in the fray. But I'm out of line. I get more reality out of little Red riding hood. Bobby F is in a class, no class doesn't fit him by himself. Pages and pages of insults but one word in the trading forum and you Brian are up in arms. Look up the word hypocrite.

Harvey
Come on I think this thread was started in order to cause trouble. I think Lamont got what he wanted. It's nice of you to join the thread. I was wondering how long before you showed up. :lol:

Hope TJ reads this or someone reports it to him so he sees it's not the members ot the trading forum that institute the fights but "the headless horsemen" who go from site to site taking potshots whenever they can. Now, Brian tell me how I'm out of line but it's perfectly acceptable for fox new rules to just pop in and stick his toilet mouth in the fray. But I'm out of line. I get more reality out of little Red riding hood. Bobby F is in a class, no class doesn't fit him by himself. Pages and pages of insults but one word in the trading forum and you Brian are up in arms. Look up the word hypocrite.

Harvey
Toilet mouth? Now that's name calling and a personal attack. I just reported you.

Come on I think this thread was started in order to cause trouble. I think Lamont got what he wanted. It's nice of you to join the thread. I was wondering how long before you showed up. :lol:

I stayed away but When Solomon makes a fool of himself in the trading forum it's perfectly acceptable for the four of you to rush to his defense. I was told you are just defending a friend. But if you for three pages take potshots at Lamont, not once did Bobby F, not once did Fox news rules be on topic and I say when does it end though Brian said no more which of course went unheeded, I'm a trouble maker. Talk about speeches, Bobby talks out of 3 sides of his mouth and nothing comes out but filth.

Let me ask you Sonny, When Bobby F told Lamont you got your head in your ass and Lamont complained he was told by a modrator "that's just a jab" If someone told a loved one of yours "they got their head up their ass, would you take that as a jab.? Show me one post in this thread where Lamont made a personal comment, I looked and you will find none. Now look at Bobby F and the two comments by Fox. Two sets of rules and a moderator who is the furthest thing from impartial.

Harvey

I am saying this to all sides

Enough, please

ok we have all crossed the line sometimes, lamont included-- and im no angel, to be honest at this point, it really doesnt matter to me who was right or wrong, I am asking all of us to just Stop

this is silly, this feud serves no purpose and is only hurting all sides. the moderators, admins, and the site owner have all said they are sick of it, and to be honest so am i--- i dont care if i was wrong or right, im just saying i have had enough of this pointless feud

and im OUT--- no more of this junk for Lamont
and i am honestly and 100% sincerely asking all parties, no matter who they like or dont like, lets just accept that we all dont like each other and let it go

I stayed away but When Solomon makes a fool of himself in the trading forum it's perfectly acceptable for the four of you to rush to his defense. I was told you are just defending a friend. But if you for three pages take potshots at Lamont, not once did Bobby F, not once did Fox news rules be on topic and I say when does it end though Brian said no more which of course went unheeded, I'm a trouble maker. Talk about speeches, Bobby talks out of 3 sides of his mouth and nothing comes out but filth.

Let me ask you Sonny, When Bobby F told Lamont you got your head in your ass and Lamont complained he was told by a modrator "that's just a jab" If someone told a loved one of yours "they got their head up their ass, would you take that as a jab.? Show me one post in this thread where Lamont made a personal comment, I looked and you will find none. Now look at Bobby F and the two comments by Fox. Two sets of rules and a moderator who is the furthest thing from impartial.

Harvey
Yea I could tell he was making a fool out of himself by asking if anyone had local news to trade. He asked a poster who wasn't a regular there and you had to butt in with your lame Comment and then we got post after post of Lamont explaining that Solomon does this all the time. If you don't like him ignore him. As for this thread anybody would come to the conclusion that Lamont was talking about Bobby since he's been whining about him for weeks, so I think that the thread was on topic unfortunately.?

Once again this is a message board and you guys take it to seriously. If you don't like what Bobby says then put him on ignore. Lamont might not make personal insults but he does do it in an underhanded way.

I am saying this to all sides

Enough, please

ok we have all crossed the line sometimes, lamont included-- and im no angel, to be honest at this point, it really doesnt matter to me who was right or wrong, I am asking all of us to just Stop

this is silly, this feud serves no purpose and is only hurting all sides. the moderators, admins, and the site owner have all said they are sick of it, and to be honest so am i--- i dont care if i was wrong or right, im just saying i have had enough of this pointless feud

and im OUT--- no more of this junk for Lamont
and i am honestly and 100% sincerely asking all parties, no matter who they like or dont like, lets just accept that we all dont like each other and let it go
Lamont I am always willing to stop this stupid feud. I don't like it. It get's tiring and if everyone would cut it out I wouldn't get involved . But it seems like we always go down this same road. We all take a little break and then the fighting starts up again. I don't know how to stop it and it is pointless because nothing ever changes.

Two sets of rules and a moderator who is the furthest thing from impartial.

Harvey
Not too wise making accusations against the moderator Harvey. If you have a problem with my moderating, contact TJ. Keep it off the boards. Take that as an official warning from me to you.

As for this thread, Lamont...you wanted members to air their grievances, and they did. We don't always like what we hear.

This thread was a mistake.