View Full Version : Bad "Trade"-by Solomon
april4972 10-25-2006, 04:19 PM :mad: Solomon wanted me to transfer an old tape OF MINE to DVD for him and when I told him I didn't have time, offered to pay me $50 for it. I said no, when I have time I'll transfer it. He again offered to pay and I told him I wanted to keep the original tape but "when I had time" I would transfer. Well, many times I made posts on this board, he'd follow me around and post "where is my tape, lol"-first of all I didn't owe him anything and I told him it wasn't tracking properly so I couldn't get a good transfer.
Fast forward to a couple of months later, still posting on threads that had nothing to do with him "where is my tape?" Even Lamont mentioned something about that post when he posted under one of Lamont's threads. Anyway, so I told him that I'd send the tape if he would transfer it to DVD for me and send the DVDs back. He agreed, I sent the tape. Well, after he gets the tape he tells me there was a "misunderstanding" that he cannot make DVDs. There was NO misunderstanding, I have the email where he agreed to do it! Anyway, then he tells me he'll send the tape back the next day and include cash (I'm assuming to reimburse for my shipping costs to send him the tape)... Well, he received it on Oct 5, and here it is Oct 25 and I received it back today, no cash included. Once again, didn't do what he said but once again, there must have been a misunderstanding. Never again!
TVFactFan 10-25-2006, 04:32 PM :mad: Solomon wanted me to transfer an old tape to DVD for him and when I told him I didn't have time, offered to pay me $50 for it. I said no, when I have time I'll transfer it. He again offered to pay and I told him I wanted to keep the original tape but "when I had time" I would transfer. Well, many times I made posts on this board, he'd follow me around and post "where is my tape, lol"-first of all I didn't owe him anything and I told him it wasn't tracking properly so I couldn't get a good transfer.
Fast forward to a couple of months later, still posting on threads that had nothing to do with him "where is my tape?" Even Lamont mentioned something about that post when he posted under one of Lamont's threads. Anyway, so I told him that I'd send the tape if he would transfer it to DVD for me and send the DVDs back. He agreed, I sent the tape. Well, after he gets the tape he tells me there was a "misunderstanding" that he cannot make DVDs. There was NO misunderstanding, I have the email where he agreed to do it! Anyway, then he tells me he'll send the tape back the next day and include cash (I'm assuming to reimburse for my shipping costs to send him the tape)... Well, he received it on Oct 5, and here it is Oct 25 and I received it back today, no cash included. Once again, didn't do what he said but once again, there must have been a misunderstanding. Never again!
This was so unnecessary Stephanie. It wasn't a Trade, it was a lent out that was a mix up in communication. You are are all over the place.
TVFactFan 10-25-2006, 04:36 PM :mad: Solomon wanted me to transfer an old tape to DVD for him and when I told him I didn't have time, offered to pay me $50 for it. I said no, when I have time I'll transfer it. He again offered to pay and I told him I wanted to keep the original tape but "when I had time" I would transfer. Well, many times I made posts on this board, he'd follow me around and post "where is my tape, lol"-first of all I didn't owe him anything and I told him it wasn't tracking properly so I couldn't get a good transfer.
Fast forward to a couple of months later, still posting on threads that had nothing to do with him "where is my tape?" Even Lamont mentioned something about that post when he posted under one of Lamont's threads. Anyway, so I told him that I'd send the tape if he would transfer it to DVD for me and send the DVDs back. He agreed, I sent the tape. Well, after he gets the tape he tells me there was a "misunderstanding" that he cannot make DVDs. There was NO misunderstanding, I have the email where he agreed to do it! Anyway, then he tells me he'll send the tape back the next day and include cash (I'm assuming to reimburse for my shipping costs to send him the tape)... Well, he received it on Oct 5, and here it is Oct 25 and I received it back today, no cash included. Once again, didn't do what he said but once again, there must have been a misunderstanding. Never again!
And Futhermore Everyone knows I'm not a scammer. This is comedy
april4972 10-25-2006, 04:39 PM I didn't say you are a scammer but you scammed me and yes, it was set up
as a trade-I sent you the video, you were to send me back DVDs...that IS a trade but you didn't keep your side of the deal so I was scammed...
If anyone wants to see the emails, just contact me.....there was no
misunderstanding. I'm not going to feud with you on here Solomon. I have the right to post when I am scammed and that's what I did. You know what you did.
loren 10-25-2006, 04:51 PM hey solomon
there are some very talented people on this board who can transfer vids for you at a nomial cost
just to have some coin or some more blanks for their habit
if you have a happening like this again, thats an easy solution
and no i didnt say i would do it !!
Lamont 10-25-2006, 04:52 PM i know u cannot post emails on the site, against the rules
BUT Perhaps if u have email proof of this stuff-- about the PROMISES made in emails that were false, and about the cash refund not being sent--- can u forward them to a moderator or administrator so that they can verify the situation and give back up as to any facts?
u have both been around here a long time, and are both long time members without any complaints that I am aware of, so maybe an OBJECTIVE THIRD PARTY could be able to post the FACTS and let us all know what is up? That way its not just HE SAID/SHE SAID, but a FAIR MODERATOR can tell us what the real deal is?
lilhave 10-25-2006, 04:53 PM And Futhermore Everyone knows I'm not a scammer. This is comedy
You left off the lol
Harvey
Lamont 10-25-2006, 04:54 PM If anyone wants to see the emails, just contact me.....there was no
misunderstanding. .
well i aint exactly an objective third party-- but i can read, can u fwd me the info
thanks
april4972 10-25-2006, 04:58 PM hey solomon
there are some very talented people on this board who can transfer vids for you at a nomial cost
just to have some coin or some more blanks for their habit
if you have a happening like this again, thats an easy solution
and no i didnt say i would do it !!
Loren,
I guess I wasn't clear...it was MY tape he wanted transferred, not his tape!
TVFactFan 10-25-2006, 05:14 PM I didn't say you are a scammer but you scammed me and yes, it was set up
as a trade-I sent you the video, you were to send me back DVDs...that IS a trade but you didn't keep your side of the deal so I was scammed...
If anyone wants to see the emails, just contact me.....there was no
misunderstanding. I'm not going to feud with you on here Solomon. I have the right to post when I am scammed and that's what I did. You know what you did.
I'm done with the situation, I emailed you saying I would mail the money because it slipped my mind but you come here and do this? You got your Tape back and that's the end. I made a mistake which I stated in the email so since you want to act childish don't contact me anymore.
RedWhine56 10-25-2006, 05:16 PM I'm done with the situation, I emailed you saying I would mail the money because it slipped my mind but you come here and do this? You got your Tape back and that's the end. I made a mistake which I stated in the email so since you want to act childish don't contact me anymore.
You forgot the "thank you for entrusting me with this tape that I wanted VERY BADLY & kept hounding you for - I really appreciate it & I'm really sorry about the mix up" part.
april4972 10-25-2006, 05:17 PM I'm done with the situation, I emailed you saying I would mail the money because it slipped my mind but you come here and do this? You got your Tape back and that's the end. I made a mistake which I stated in the email so since you want to act childish don't contact me anymore.
You didn't email about sending the money? Don't worry, I have no desire to contact you....
Lamont 10-25-2006, 05:21 PM I have read the emails that were forwarded to me from april4972, i checked the IP info and YES they are from tvresearcher---
i can say this
1. tvresearcher DID in fact make that arrangement
and
2. tvresearcher CLEARLY Stated that he would EXPRESS MAIL the tape back (express mail is 1 day/overnight) with cash to cover the costs
so if april4972 JUST GOT THE tape back, then clearly he DID NOT express mail it as stated and did not include a refund either
i cannot comment further then just confirming what the emails from him clearly state, if others want to see for themselves, they can email april4972
BUT i will say this, i would recommend bringing the problem to the attention of Savageamusement the moderator or perhaps TJ himself to get some kind of resolution out of it
a real mess, but yes, april4972's emails from tvresearcher DO indeed back up her side of the story 100%
TVFactFan 10-25-2006, 05:27 PM I have read the emails that were forwarded to me from april4972, i checked the IP info and YES they are from tvresearcher---
i can say this
1. tvresearcher DID in fact make that arrangement
and
2. tvresearcher CLEARLY Stated that he would EXPRESS MAIL the tape back (express mail is 1 day/overnight) with cash to cover the costs
so if april4972 JUST GOT THE tape back, then clearly he DID NOT express mail it as stated and did not include a refund either
i cannot comment further then just confirming what the emails from him clearly state, if others want to see for themselves, they can email april4972
BUT i will say this, i would recommend bringing the problem to the attention of Savageamusement the moderator or perhaps TJ himself to get some kind of resolution out of it
a real mess, but yes, april4972's emails from tvresearcher DO indeed back up her side of the story 100%
I wanted to get the Tape back to her fast so it wouldn't get lost. I was so focused on getting her the tape back without any problems that I didn't include the money which probably is something I can't do until November. So that's the story, and I admitted my mistake, i appreciated her lending me the tape and she will get what I said in the email. It was very DUMB to bring it to the Board instead of settlling this like adults. I don't have time for this.
TVFactFan 10-25-2006, 05:29 PM You didn't email about sending the money? Don't worry, I have no desire to contact you....
I SENT THE EMAIL SAYING-"I WILL STEPHANIE It's in my sent box. Can you Read?????
Lamont 10-25-2006, 05:30 PM Tvresearcher that is NOT the story the emails tell
it seems from "Your Own Words" in those emails that you indicated you would "convert" it for her
and u also "In Your Own Words" stated you would "Express Mail" the tape back to her---- which of course, doesnt take but 1 day
i dont want to get into a bicker-fest with you on this one--- but when u claim it was a "MiX Up" that indicates some form of miscommunication, BUT the emails I have just read, indicate no confusion at all,
it was CLEAR what you said you would do, however it seems that you simply didn't do it
u just said u wanted to "GET THE TAPE BACK FAST", but u didn't think the express mail that you said you would send it would be faster than however u sent it instead? which took 2 weeks +?
since I cannot help resolve this, I suggest contacting the moderator Savageamusement, Seth the administrator or TJ himself
maybe they can sort out the mess
lilhave 10-25-2006, 05:34 PM It seems rather obvious from Lamont stating that Solomon wrote he would convert the tape, my question is this. Since you, April have the "smoking gun" with Solomon's own words, did you notify Savage and TJ of this problem with the emails? If so, it seems there was a resolution that Solomon was to send you the tape back on the 5th. My question is this. Did Solomon on his own offer to send back the tape or was he instructed to do so? If he was instructed to do so and keep it for another two weeks, saying literally "screw you", I think we all know what the justice would be to any other member. But keep in mind this is Solomon with the "shield of protection". Just take a look at how many posts he generates. Curious to see if he was told to mail it back
Harvey.
april4972 10-25-2006, 05:34 PM I SENT THE EMAIL SAYING-"I WILL STEPHANIE It's in my sent box. Can you Read?????
Yes, I can read-I read your name in my in-box and hit the "delete" key....Funny how someone who made this agreement by "reading" my email and then saying there was a miscommunication asks ME if I can read!!!
TVFactFan 10-25-2006, 05:36 PM Tvresearcher that is NOT the story the emails tell
it seems from "Your Own Words" in those emails that you indicated you would "convert" it for her
and u also "In Your Own Words" stated you would "Express Mail" the tape back to her---- which of course, doesnt take but 1 day
i dont want to get into a bicker-fest with you on this one--- but when u claim it was a "MiX Up" that indicates some form of miscommunication, BUT the emails I have just read, indicate no confusion at all,
it was CLEAR what you said you would do, however it seems that you simply didn't do it
u just said u wanted to "GET THE TAPE BACK FAST", but u didn't think the express mail that you said you would send it would be faster than however u sent it instead? which took 2 weeks +?
since I cannot help resolve this, I suggest contacting the moderator Savageamusement, Seth the administrator or TJ himself
maybe they can sort out the mess
How can I convert to DVD if I don't have a DVD recorder? I thought she was lending me the Tape which is why I was so thankful. I even emailed her Today asking-"Did you get your Tape" and "I feel Bad that things turned out this way since we had a good trade before. Anyone with common sense would laugh at me being a scammer if I'm here everyday.
Lou Costello 10-25-2006, 05:38 PM Oh my! This news is troubling. To think a forum member could actually deceive another forum member here of good standing, manipulating facts, and/or distorting events, completely mis-interpreting the facts, then deny, then to unilaterally pull out of a trade, is unacceptable. Then to back-peddle when they were caught with their hand in the cookie jar... :conan:
This is troubling... :conan:
TVFactFan 10-25-2006, 05:38 PM Yes, I can read-I read your name in my in-box and hit the "delete" key....Funny how someone who made this agreement by "reading" my email and then saying there was a miscommunication asks ME if I can read!!!
You have really HURT ME today. Coming here to post Negative Things about me is just plain Wrong. We could have settled this privately.
april4972 10-25-2006, 05:38 PM How can I convert to DVD if I don't have a DVD recorder? I thought she was lending me the Tape which is why I was so thankful. I even emailed her Today asking-"Did you get your Tape" and "I feel Bad that things turned out this way since we had a good trade before. Anyone with common sense would laugh at me being a scammer if I'm here everyday.
Maybe nobody had the guts to make their problems public like I did!
You agreed to transfer to DVD, I didn't know you couldn't do that someone
else told me that...you had my tape by the time I found out that you wouldn't be able to do what you said you would!!!
Lamont 10-25-2006, 05:39 PM tvresearcher--- all i know is what i read sir
and that shows me this
1. u agreed to a loan that was part of a trade
2. once u got it u claimed u "misunderstood" and thought it was a gift
3. u said you would express mail the tape back to her, u did not and it took 2+ weeks to get back
4. u said you would refund her costs and u didnt
these are "Your Own Words" i am reading
MAYBE there was a misunderstanding about converting it to dvd vs. converting to vhs--- i dont know, i dont see how-- but MAYBE
but the rest of the mess seems crystal clear to me
MAYBE someone else here can ask for april4972 to FWD the emails to THEM? and THEY can give another opinion???
lilhave 10-25-2006, 05:42 PM How can I convert to DVD if I don't have a DVD recorder? I thought she was lending me the Tape which is why I was so thankful. I even emailed her Today asking-"Did you get your Tape" and "I feel Bad that things turned out this way since we had a good trade before. Anyone with common sense would laugh at me being a scammer if I'm here everyday.
If I, Lamont, Loren, Joker or a few others pulled a stunt, a SCAM like this, we would be put in deep freeze for mos. but not Solomon.
No one's laughing my friend, see any lol's?
Harvey
y2k3Joker 10-25-2006, 05:43 PM tvresearcher--- all i know is what i read sir
and that shows me this
1. u agreed to a loan that was part of a trade
2. once u got it u claimed u "misunderstood" and thought it was a gift
3. u said you would express mail the tape back to her, u did not and it took 2+ weeks to get back
4. u said you would refund her costs and u didnt
these are "Your Own Words" i am reading
MAYBE there was a misunderstanding about converting it to dvd vs. converting to vhs--- i dont know, i dont see how-- but MAYBE
but the rest of the mess seems crystal clear to me
MAYBE someone else here can ask for april4972 to FWD the emails to THEM? and THEY can give another opinion???
Does anybody else here enjoy it when Lamont starts listings things to make his point ??!:lol:
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3.
4.
I get a kick out of it ... It's like he's Perry Mason (oops, Freudian slip)
april4972 10-25-2006, 05:45 PM It seems rather obvious from Lamont stating that Solomon wrote he would convert the tape, my question is this. Since you, April have the "smoking gun" with Solomon's own words, did you notify Savage and TJ of this problem with the emails? If so, it seems there was a resolution that Solomon was to send you the tape back on the 5th. My question is this. Did Solomon on his own offer to send back the tape or was he instructed to do so? If he was instructed to do so and keep it for another two weeks, saying literally "screw you", I think we all know what the justice would be to any other member. But keep in mind this is Solomon with the "shield of protection". Just take a look at how many posts he generates. Curious to see if he was told to mail it back
Harvey.
Harvey,
Savage knows this whole situation but nobody had to tell him to mail it back, he did that on his own but he took his sweet time-although I did say no rush, once he realized he wasn't going to be doing what I thought, he should have sent the tape right back, he copied it for himself the same day he received it (Oct 5th) and didn't mail it back to me until Monday (Oct 23) , I received today...so why keep it so long I asked? He said he didn't want to stand in line at the Post office for 1 package, can you believe it after I stood in line to mail it to him, I had to wait until he had "3 things to mail." Anyway, nobody forced him to return it, he did that on his own but that wasn't what we agreed on in the beginning so that didn't help me much!
TVFactFan 10-25-2006, 05:45 PM I was going to HOLD the Tape until I was able to send the Money(November) but when she asked have I mailed the Tape I said well let me just get it to her rea fast. So what is it that Stephanie Lost here? she got her Tape back, I told her the money was coming but she deleted so never knew. So what is Stephaine mad about? What did she lose? Being scammed means you LOST something. What part of this story is the SCAM? If it was a scam I would have KEPT THE tape not email her today and say-"Did you get it?
T-Greg 10-25-2006, 05:46 PM well i aint exactly an objective third party-- but i can read, can u fwd me the info
thanks
Is this going to be a bench trial, or should we pick a jury of his peers...this is America... :lol:
Lamont 10-25-2006, 05:48 PM I was going to HOLD the Tape until I was able to send the Money(November) but when she asked have I mailed the Tape I said well let me just get it to her rea fast. So what is it that Stephanie Lost here? she got her Tape back, I told her the money was coming but she deleted so never knew. So what is Stephaine mad about? What did she lose? Being scammed means you LOST something. What part of this story is the SCAM? If it was a scam I would have KEPT THE tape not email her today and say-"Did you get it?
tvresearcher what u r saying here is CLEARLY 100% NOT what the emails from u to her show, the emails say the exact opposite
your theory seems to be, well i didnt do what i said, misrepresented the deal, tried to KEEP the tape and claim i thought it was a gift, didnt send it back when i said i did, OR express mail like i said i would, didnt refund the shipping costs like i said i did---- BUT SHE GOT THE TAPE BACK, so that is fine??????
RedWhine56 10-25-2006, 05:52 PM I was going to HOLD the Tape until I was able to send the Money(November) but when she asked have I mailed the Tape I said well let me just get it to her rea fast. So what is it that Stephanie Lost here? she got her Tape back, I told her the money was coming but she deleted so never knew. So what is Stephaine mad about? What did she lose? Being scammed means you LOST something. What part of this story is the SCAM? If it was a scam I would have KEPT THE tape not email her today and say-"Did you get it?
Stephanie has lost money to ship the item to you & the time to stand in line at the PO. (Which you weren't even willing to spend, eventhough she did this for you.) What did she get in return? Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. YOU hounded her for months for this & yet you say it's going to take you until next month to get the few bucks to send her to cover postage???? :eek: :eek: :eek:
You gained something you wanted very badly. YOU screwed up & yet have the audacity to be offended???
lilhave 10-25-2006, 05:55 PM tvresearcher what u r saying here is CLEARLY 100% NOT what the emails from u to her show, the emails say the exact opposite
your theory seems to be, well i didnt do what i said, misrepresented the deal, tried to KEEP the tape and claim i thought it was a gift, didnt send it back when i said i did, OR express mail like i said i would, didnt refund the shipping costs like i said i did---- BUT SHE GOT THE TAPE BACK, so that is fine??????
Forget it Lamont. You can't win with Solomon. He does what he wants, says what he wants, changes thoughts, ideas, statements in midstream, basically do as he pleases and will never have to answer for his actions like everyone else. If you pursue it you will be somehow told it's your fault as if you put words in Solomon's mouth and then twisted them.
You may be a big trader but you will never be "King Solomon"
Harvey
TVFactFan 10-25-2006, 05:57 PM Stephanie has lost money to ship the item to you & the time to stand in line at the PO. (Which you weren't even willing to spend, eventhough she did this for you.) What did she get in return? Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zero. YOU hounded her for months for this & yet you say it's going to take you until next month to get the few bucks to send her to cover postage???? :eek: :eek: :eek:
You gained something you wanted very badly. YOU screwed up & yet have the audacity to be offended???
The Postage Stephanie spent will be sent back Tomorrow and the other thing on Nov 1st. Now can end this? This settlement has been emailed To TJ also
Lou Costello 10-25-2006, 05:59 PM Does anybody else here enjoy it when Lamont starts listings things to make his point ??!:lol:
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I get a kick out of it ... It's like he's Perry Mason (oops, Freudian slip)
:conan:
Lou Costello 10-25-2006, 06:00 PM Forget it Lamont. You can't win with Solomon. He does what he wants, says what he wants, changes thoughts, ideas, statements in midstream, basically do as he pleases and will never have to answer for his actions like everyone else. If you pursue it you will be somehow told it's your fault as if you put words in Solomon's mouth and then twisted them.
You may be a big trader but you will never be "King Solomon"
Harvey
Yes, this is troubling, indeed... :nonono:
:conan:
savageamusement 10-25-2006, 06:29 PM All that has been said has been, each is entitled to their own opinion- and Solomon or Stephanie can contact me, if they have anything else to say on the matter
Or contact TJ himself.
Bottom line, someone was unhappy in this situation and they said so- but I think the issue is going off track and is goign deeper than just this situation, so before this turns into one of the brawls it does, lets take a step back.
Each have had their chance to say their opinion- and thats what matters.
Solomon has made an offer to send the funds to reimburse her - so that concludes that.
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