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loren

10-23-2006, 06:19 PM

Hey Loren, What does that mean? When you say Premium List....what exactly does that mean?

Do others here have premium list items? please elaborate, if you can..thanks!

for those who dont understand the principal, ill explain the concept

of course not all tv dvds are equal

if they were all equal, then

then ill make a nice list of what i want and ill send retail crap that i bought at best buy last night

or even worse, some tired old set of the smurfs, thats been around for ever and everyone who wants it, has it

most people that have these better sets, dont even list them on their trade

some folks, have them listed on their trade list, and then for some reason, note-- this set isnt for trade

i approach the issue from a unique angle, i make the best of the best avaible to anyone, but i need to get an item of equal rarity, value, how ever you choose to phrase it, in return

i have aprox 1 % of my entire holdings on my premium list

heres an example of why i add an item to the premium list

dr kildare

i have the same eps on 85 discs

aprox 170 total eps

and its on my normal list

but then, i had them redone, at great expense, onto 33 discs, with nice menus, and in original order

the 33 disc run goes on the premium list

why would anyone ever redo a set, put all that work into it,and then reduce the trade value, by over 70%

down from 85 disc to end up at 33

im surely not going to go through all that work, and expense to end up with far less

so thats why i see the premium list items as having much more value

why is this premium list a topic for debate

well some people who dont have any prime sets, or dont go through the work and expense of redoing a huge set into a better and smaller set, want to run their pie hole about it, and cry the blues

since they want the prime stuff while wanting to offer up their lame and tired stuff

the moral of the story is, do some work, go find some good stuff,

like in real life, those who sit and whine, dont get much, thsoe who hustle and do the leg work, come out pretty well

lilhave

10-23-2006, 06:20 PM

Hey Loren, What does that mean? When you say Premium List....what exactly does that mean?

Do others here have premium list items? please elaborate, if you can..thanks!

He has it, you don't, it's premium.

Just got in 70 eps of Wild Bill Hickcock, 20 eps of Dick Powell theater, 75 shows from Wonderful World of Disney, 20 eps of Men from Shiloh but I know not to say anything because my stuff will never be premium. 19 dvds of the Jack Benny show etc. but someday I'm hoping to get something premium, till then I will accept whatever tidbits come my way.

Anyone want to send me a tidbit?

Harvey

y2k3Joker

10-23-2006, 06:26 PM

Lex Luthor

10-23-2006, 06:30 PM

Anyone want to send me a tidbit?

Timbits are great and only available at Tim Hortons, fire me a mailing addy and I'll throw a couple in an envelope for you.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/budget/gfx/timbits.jpghttp://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/cecily_k/Snacks/Timbits.jpg

y2k3Joker

10-23-2006, 06:31 PM

Timbits are great and only available at Tim Hortons, fire me a mailing addy and I'll throw a couple in an envelope for you.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/budget/gfx/timbits.jpghttp://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/cecily_k/Snacks/Timbits.jpg

haha!!!

You beat me to it !!

I was gonna do the same thing

(I think it's only funny to Canadians)

loren

10-23-2006, 06:34 PM

He has it, you don't, it's premium.

Just got in 70 eps of Wild Bill Hickcock, 20 eps of Dick Powell theater, 75 shows from Wonderful World of Disney, 20 eps of Men from Shiloh but I know not to say anything because my stuff will never be premium. 19 dvds of the Jack Benny show etc. but someday I'm hoping to get something premium, till then I will accept whatever tidbits come my way.

Anyone want to send me a tidbit?

Harvey

heres another example of old harvey

whos too lazy to go get some prime stuff, and doesnt have the skills to redo sets

posting behind me and crying about the premium list for the 40th time

boo hoo

loren wont give his best stuff for my old crap

boo hoo

harvey

give it a rest

do some work, get you some game

quit crying

and to be very honest

all the things harvey lists above are either in common circulation right now

i have had the wild bill hitchcocks for a yaer

and alwasy on my normal list

hardly prime

also the men from shiloh

also hardly prime

and jack benny is on the way to me, and will go on the normal list

hardly prime

and das far as dick powell

i passed on getting it last summer

since i didnt want it

come on harvey

your not makeing much of a point
\
yes harvey

maybe some day a prime set will magicaly appear in your mail box

but in the mean time

ill do the work to score them

i cant wait for magic

Lou Costello

10-23-2006, 06:39 PM

for those who dont understand the principal, ill explain the concept

Thanks, I think I get it now, only questions arise...

1. What others value a set or show to be etc.. may not be of value to the other...true? i.e. You have Dr. Kildare, I don't care for it, so it's of no value to me, yet someone else might want it, thus, it's of value to them...then are you saying you're only source to get it from?

2. If say, your Perry Mason set is already on 4 other Traders list of shows, for trade ( and/or on sale online somewhere) then that would make your Perry Mason set no longer Premium item, true? since it's already alvailable through other traders, exactly like your current set... or (2) is being sold online somewhere, thus, your set is waiting for takers, while the exact duplicate set is making their rounds already all over the country....cutting out the middle-man, you?

3. I like Wonder Woman, i do not have it. You probably do, it's crap to you, to me it's not, but I know I can get it anywhere from anyone, etc..thus it is not Premium... I get that. But if one, puts a value on a Set and gets no takers or interest, the set is moot, it's not moving and the only value the set has to anyone, would be yourself, since no one is asking for it, as it is not making the rounds on trade lists... True?

4. Thanks for your reply

5. Joker, Harvey, I like Wonderful World of Disney also...if this is the show that aired on Sunday's or weekends during the 60' 70's etc.???? that sounds very nice...Disney rules! To me, Disney is Premium, since no one has it, yet most everyone wants...

lilhave

10-23-2006, 06:42 PM

heres another example of old harvey

whos too lazy to go get some prime stuff, and doesnt have the skills to redo sets

posting behind me and crying about the premium list for the 40th time

boo hoo

loren wont give his best stuff for my old crap

boo hoo

harvey

give it a rest

do some work, get you some game

quit crying

and to be very honest

all the things harvey lists above are either in common circulation right now

i have had the wild bill hitchcocks for a yaer

and alwasy on my normal list

hardly prime

also the men from shiloh

also hardly prime

and jack benny is on the way to me, and will go on the normal list

hardly prime

and das far as dick powell

i passed on getting it last summer

since i didnt want it

come on harvey

your not makeing much of a point
\
yes harvey

maybe some day a prime set will magicaly appear in your mail box

but in the mean time

So why do you go to Lamont and Norm to get my stuff? ave your nonsense for those who are wise to your tactics.

Harvey who could care less about anything you have.? How about my Judge Roy Bean's. You also turned them down? hank God there is no drug testing to a be a member of this group because you wouldn't make it my friend.

Harvey who doesn't buy your garbage. The only thing epic is your mouth.

ill do the work to score them

i cant wait for magic

Lou Costello

10-23-2006, 06:46 PM

Lou Costello

10-23-2006, 06:48 PM

:nonono: :nonono: :nonono: :nonono:

Lex Luthor

10-23-2006, 06:49 PM

haha!!!

You beat me to it !!

I was gonna do the same thing

(I think it's only funny to Canadians)

Thought I would try and lighten it up in here, geeze such hostility. Can't we all just get along??

Why can't everyone just play nice like Joker and I? :lol:

loren

10-23-2006, 06:51 PM

Thanks, I think I get it now, only questions arise...

2. If say, your Perry Mason set is already on 4 other Traders list of shows, for trade ( and/or on sale online somewhere) then that would make your Perry Mason set no longer Premium item, true? since it's already alvailable through other traders, exactly like your current set... or (2) is being sold online somewhere, thus, your set is waiting for takers, while the exact duplicate set is making their rounds already all over the country....cutting out the middle-man, you?

.

you have 100% missed the point

the perry runs out there are on 100 or more discs

why would i allow my 48 disc set to tarded at half that rate

that would be stupid

and as far as people selling the perry sat

no one is

they are selling my old 50 disc selection of about 200 eps

not a complete set

feel free to check facts

you seem to have many non facts listed in this post

perry mason selection of about 200 eps, of cousre is the very set harvey is crying about and has been for several months

y2k3Joker

10-23-2006, 07:01 PM

lilhave

10-23-2006, 07:01 PM

Hey Harvey

What period are those "75 shows from Wonderful World of Disney"? Are these from the 1950's - 70's period?
I'd like to get some old Wonderful World Of Disney

Here is a Disney episode list

http://www.billcotter.com/tvbook/appendix-b.htm

Will send you a private list of what I have. Some come from Mickey Mouse club and the others are from wonderful world of Disney. Most have quality of 9.0 or better.

Harvey

Lou Costello

10-23-2006, 07:05 PM

you have 100% missed the point

:nonono: :nonono: :nonono: No Sir, let me correct you

I said, "If".... the point was, if, and if, someone gets YOUR new Perry Mason set...it's theirs, thus it would make the rounds, trading community, online sales, etc...eventually land in Europe and across the country, thus rendering YOUR Perry mason set, no longer a Premium item, when folks, could then go to another trader who, to them, do not see it as a Premium List item, rather, they see it as another tv show, give me the same # of DVDs in trade, etc.. and so on...

Thus, if YOUR Perry Mason show was now in the hands of 4-6 traders already, making their rounds, you would agree then YOUR Perry Mason set is no longer Premium, to you or to anyone, since it is making the rounds...that was the point. You wold not trade it for other common shows, while others would....Once you let it go, a copy set, your set is no longer Premium, because then others will get it, surely get it from the new acquired sources...making your set moot, with no takers... that was all...if you never shared it, it's Premium...once its out, however nice it is, which it probably is, 14 other traders would soon have your set within a week, rendering YOUR set moot...that was all Loren You have good stuff Loren, but all your shows on your Premium List I see on several traders lists already already...for everyday common trades..nothing premium about those shows you have or list.....unless, unless you never let them go...then you have something there...

thanks loren :wave:

y2k3Joker

10-23-2006, 07:07 PM

Will send you a private list of what I have. Some come from Mickey Mouse club and the others are from wonderful world of Disney. Most have quality of 9.0 or better.

Harvey

Thanks, I can send you some Bat Masterson that I think you might enjoy. (recording them presently)

I guess this can be our own premium trade.

Joker

lilhave

10-23-2006, 07:13 PM

:nonono: :nonono: :nonono: No Sir, let me correct you

I said, "If".... the point was, if, and if, someone gets YOUR new Perry Mason set...it's theirs, thus it would make the rounds, trading community, online sales, etc...eventually land in Europe and across the country, thus rendering YOUR Perry mason set, no longer a Premium item, when folks, could then go to another trader who, to them, do not see it as a Premium List item, rather, they see it as another tv show, give me the same # of DVDs in trade, etc.. and so on...

Thus, if YOUR Perry Mason show was now in the hands of 4-6 traders already, making their rounds, you would agree then YOUR Perry Mason set is no longer Premium, to you or to anyone, since it is making the rounds...that was the point. You wold not trade it for other common shows, while others would....Once you let it go, a copy set, your set is no longer Premium, because then others will get it, surely get it from the new acquired sources...making your set moot, with no takers... that was all...if you never shared it, it's Premium...once its out, however nice it is, which it probabl is, 14 other traders would soon have your set within a week, rendering YOUR set moot...that was all Loren

thanks loren :wave:

Let's take it one more step. If I say " my set is premium" and you have nothing to trade me that's premium", I can then say "here is what I will charge you for the set", or you can give me thee to one for my set, because mine is premium? Take my word, the gambit works. You decide what you have is premium and decide if the other party's is premium. Of course it never is. Traders who just trade have a attitude of, I have something you want, and you have something I want, lets trade. That's what trading is all about. Sellers in some instances take a different approach. The word premium raises the price.

Harvey

loren

10-23-2006, 07:16 PM

:nonono: :nonono: :nonono: No Sir, let me correct you

I said, "If".... :

the premium list is how i choose to protect my prime set

the joker has his differnt method to protect his hard work

we have bumped heads over that very issue

other members on this site, have other methods to protect their best items

if --as you say 4-5 others get the set from me

then i will have recouped some nice items in the process

a lot of nice stuff to be sure

all of my premium list items eventualy are removed from the prelium list

and are freely circulated on the normal list, with the other 99% of my holdings

heres a little hint

wait a couple months and whatever will become part of the normal list

wouldnt a better question be, why do youall feel the need to protect these things

well if i didnt , then certain folks would have them all over iofer that very same day, thus makeing the items of no use

seeing as how almost every one here with any amount of discs, is an ioffer seller, or a high priced private seller, or a direct supporter of a seller

Lou Costello

10-23-2006, 07:18 PM

ahhhh, you've never taken one of Uncle Loren's Business classes, have you? I can get you the CliffsNotes if you need them.

Hi Joker! :wave: it pays to ask questions and to clarify and correct, when needed... am doing lots of reading here...it's fun! Everyone here has great stuff...but the premium list thrrough me for a loop... I thoguth it meant no one has it and it was special, etc... it's not though... but i figured it out... if you have Disney all episodes, and no one has it, it's Premium...if you're making sets left and right, there's nothing premium about it... that's all you and I like Disney.. trader X may not care for disney, and does not see anything premium about disney :lol: so it's value is only to the creator, holder or wanted... thanks joker...

Lou Costello

10-23-2006, 07:20 PM

the premium list is how i choose to protect my prime set

the joker has his differnt method to protect his hard work

we have bumped heads over that very issue

other members on this site, have other methods to protect their best items

if --as you say 4-5 others get the set from me

then i will have recouped some nice items in the process

a lot of nice stuff to be sure

all of my premium list items eventualy are removed from the prelium list

and are freely circulated on the normal list, with the other 99% of my holdings

heres a little hint

wait a couple months and whatever will become part of the normal list

wouldnt a better question be, why do youall feel the need to protect these things

well if i didnt , then certain folks would have them all over iofer that very same day, thus makeing the items of no use

seeing as how almost every one here with any amount of discs, is an ioffer seller, or a high priced private seller, or a direct supporter of a seller

;)

Lex Luthor

10-23-2006, 07:20 PM

:nonono: :nonono: :nonono: No Sir, let me correct you

I said, "If".... the point was, if, and if, someone gets YOUR new Perry Mason set...it's theirs, thus it would make the rounds, trading community, online sales, etc...eventually land in Europe and across the country, thus rendering YOUR Perry mason set, no longer a Premium item, when folks, could then go to another trader who, to them, do not see it as a Premium List item, rather, they see it as another tv show, give me the same # of DVDs in trade, etc.. and so on...

Thus, if YOUR Perry Mason show was now in the hands of 4-6 traders already, making their rounds, you would agree then YOUR Perry Mason set is no longer Premium, to you or to anyone, since it is making the rounds...that was the point. You wold not trade it for other common shows, while others would....Once you let it go, a copy set, your set is no longer Premium, because then others will get it, surely get it from the new acquired sources...making your set moot, with no takers... that was all...if you never shared it, it's Premium...once its out, however nice it is, which it probably is, 14 other traders would soon have your set within a week, rendering YOUR set moot...that was all Loren You have good stuff Loren, but all your shows on your Premium List I see on several traders lists already already...for everyday common trades..nothing premium about those shows you have or list.....unless, unless you never let them go...then you have something there...

thanks loren :wave:

Does Monty have an evil twin????

http://www.nndb.com/people/947/000108623/demond-wilson.jpg

Lou Costello

10-23-2006, 07:21 PM

this can be our own premium trade. Joker

:rofl: it sounds all stuffy, snooty prententious, doesn't it? :rofl:

loren

10-23-2006, 07:23 PM

Let's take it one more step. If I say " my set is premium" and you have nothing to trade me that's premium", I can then say "here is what I will charge you for the set", or you can give me thee to one for my set, because mine is premium? Take my word, the gambit works. You decide what you have is premium and decide if the other party's is premium. Of course it never is. Traders who just trade have a attitude of, I have something you want, and you have something I want, lets trade. That's what trading is all about. Sellers in some instances take a different approach. The word premium raises the price.

Harvey

once again old harvey plays the seller card

but he forgets that loren isnt the only seller, and he benifits from sleers all the time

i would be more than happy to list the sellers that harvey deals with and supports on a regular basis

but yet he only has issues with lorens sets that are premium, and loren as a seller

and has run his pie hole for a longtime about it

the fact of the matter is, even old harvey has sold dvds

oh my gawd...............

the evil has consumed old harvey

isnt it about time old harvey gets himself something else to worry about

like a jack o lantern for the big holiday, something he may know a little about

Lamont

10-23-2006, 07:26 PM

Does Monty have an evil twin????

http://www.nndb.com/people/947/000108623/demond-wilson.jpg

OK J-Bone

lets not joke around about that one sir---- we all know the rule about multiple accounts and old uncle lamont is happy to NOT be in the dog house this week

Lou Costello 100% Aint me,
BUT my wife says im JUST AS SEXY AS HIM!!!!

Lex Luthor

10-23-2006, 07:35 PM

OK J-Bone

lets not joke around about that one sir---- we all know the rule about multiple accounts and old uncle lamont is happy to NOT be in the dog house this week

Lou Costello 100% Aint me,
BUT my wife says im JUST AS SEXY AS HIM!!!!

My bad Lamont (just referring to similar style I knew it was not you, hence evil twin),

Just another very passionate member of the board.

Welcome to the Nuthouse Lou, the fun is just beginning.

loren

10-23-2006, 07:41 PM

My bad Lamont (just referring to similar style I knew it was not you, hence evil twin),

i didnt see brother lou ask for a group hug

so thats why i never saw the connection of styles

y2k3Joker

10-23-2006, 07:45 PM

My bad Lamont (just referring to similar style I knew it was not you, hence evil twin),

Just another very passionate member of the board.

Welcome to the Nuthouse Lou, the fun is just beginning.

Nothing like a Monday to get the competitive juices flowing ....

This place is a ghost town during the weekend.

lilhave

10-23-2006, 07:50 PM

Nothing like a Monday to get the competitive juices flowing ....

This place is a ghost town during the weekend.

Now keep your fingers crossed, Tiki runs wild in Dallas tonight.

Harvey who will be glued to the little screen.

Lex Luthor

10-23-2006, 07:54 PM

Nothing like a Monday to get the competitive juices flowing ....

This place is a ghost town during the weekend.

Speaking of competetive
Nov 4th Joker

I will be sending my boys out to take care of your "Hitmen"

http://encyclopedia.quickseek.com/images/Vancouvergiants.gif

y2k3Joker

10-23-2006, 07:57 PM

Speaking of competetive
Nov 4th Joker

I will be sending my boys out to take care of your "Hitmen"

When did I move to Calgary?:wave:

btw, How good is the kid Brule?
Did you get to see a lot of his games while he was there?

Lex Luthor

10-23-2006, 08:09 PM

When did I move to Calgary?:wave:

btw, How good is the kid Brule?
Did you get to see a lot of his games while he was there?

He is sucking in Columbus which could be damn good news for us here in Van. Saw a ton of him (season ticket holder) and this kid was incredible. Guts and fiestiness of Ryan Smith and hands like Nash. Hurting in CBJ, maybe one more year in the minors but this kids a keeper.

Lex Luthor

10-23-2006, 08:15 PM

Hey Loren, What does that mean? When you say Premium List....what exactly does that mean?

Do others here have premium list items? please elaborate, if you can..thanks!

:singer:
This debate just never ends ...
It just goes on and on my friends ...
Some traders started playing it, not knowing what it was ...
And they'll continue debating it forever just because ...

This debate just never ends ... (repeat, repeat)

http://www.indiana.edu/~aikido/extra/lambchop.jpg
Come on everyone sing along, you know the words!

savageamusement

10-23-2006, 10:24 PM

Why are people greedy with their Trade lists here? If you do not want to trade something, why post it? I thought this was for sharing. Now I'm reading, "You wish you had my stuff, or I would never want your stuff, etc.." " You can't ever get my stuff... my stuff is better than your stuff...are they all the same sets?

Why are people greeedy with their stuff here? Like possessive or someting. :nonono:

Lou, you and I got some things in common. Lemme buy you a drink.

Funny thing about premier, rare, etc.
Everyone views such things differnetly.
Take collect- lets say shot glasses- they put them on display- never use em'

THey look nice, but just decor. A funny story here and there, where you got it-a chuckle. Thats it.

You got your stamp collectors or rare books, gott have gloves on just to look at them, take it out only on special occasions but its special because you "know its there right?"

Then you got your old film collectors of sorts, get a print and set up a viewing date, and friends, family gather round and they feast on this rare items.
They enjoy it, respect it, collect it, but its shared.

Not all hobbiest look at things the same, so don't give up on this site over ones views.

The fact is, i come from the third perspective, I recently flooded- and at the SAME time I flooded a rare 80's sitcome started airing here.
Oh I made sure to get it, just ask Lamont or Jie3, with all respect to the devestation of the flood, I still wanted the show.
SO what did I do with a such a rare item?
I made 3 sets, set up 3 trades, and I admit, I got 5 discs instead of 4 for them on a trade cuz what i wanted was 6 discs and the person said hey, i don't mind- yours is pretty rare-
And the condition upon trading it, was make sure you trade this- so others can enjoy it.

Thats my view- if its rare, i like the glee and joy of being the first one to bring the set to the table
To bring back the memory, the jokes, the character- that is how i ENJOY my hobby.

But to me the value IS the enjoyment
Others the value is what they can get for it.

You will find this in all walks of life, in all hobbies, in all areas of collecting.

Worth and value set the stage.

but worth and value breed resentment, hostility , and frustration as well.

So this particular arguement is an old one, with this particular user.

And the fact is if EVERYONE that had a rare item, only traded it for a rare item, we wouldn't get much trading done. Thats the hangup.
Rare is in the eye of the beholder-
This discussion took place over Perry Mason- I have Perry mason complete. (shrug)
i don't consider it rare, becuase they have been airing it here 4x a day for about 5 years.
Webster, isn't rare to me, they air it here every day. Diffrent' strokes, Gimmie a break- all part of the line up.
But its rare to Konfusion who really wants Webster and Lamont-
And you know, its funny because by Lamont they are airing the Hogan family- thats rare to me, haven't seen that in awhile

So he can have Webster for Hogan family- not becuase they are special or rare, just becuase we each don't have the other.
And thankfully more people look at things that way, which is why this community flourishes.

My 5 cents, with tax.

loren

10-23-2006, 10:45 PM

kim theres a huge difference in what we are refering to

you and your buddy are both getting something thats great

but

what if they wanted the great thing, and offered you some reatil, or some tired set thats been around, or in my case

things i turned down a year ago due to poor quality, from another user

then both folks arent getting soemthing they seek

thus, it would suck

in a perfect world, everyone would ahve nice items

everyone would spend the time or money to ahve their sets redone, with great menus and in order, and in a comapct, easily tradeable disc count

but they dont

many people are far too lazy to do the work

and guess whos the ones that are crying the blues every time??

the same no menu making lazy people

how many times have we seen a post go like this

i want ____ and _____

and have crap for trade

then a couple days later

why will no one trade with me??

then

you people are anti new member

not really

drop a new member on here with soem fresh items, thats willing toi establish themselves and stand back

its the slackers that sit back and wait for something nice to drop into their laps

and hows that going lately

savageamusement

10-23-2006, 10:57 PM

Yes but people starting out trading, or don't have the time and money you invest, or if they have something rare to them that YOU don't think is rare- Just can't get the items.

That breeds resentment was my point.

Remember when I wanted Cagney and Lacey from you

And you wanted New Outer Limits? To me that ws rare. It was 9 discs short of the same disc count but you said Cagney was rare.
So even though I just made a set, even though no one else at the time had it
you didn't consider it rare.

Tht was your opinion, but thats my point exactly

He who decides what is rare, will find opposition.

I have had people offer me 2 for one discs for new outer limits, still - becuase they think its rare-

Its all in the eye of the beholder.

Just because you think something is rare, doesn't mean someone else does- so they may argue saying they dont' NEED something premium to get it
While you may feel their list isn't rare, and they put just as much time and money into make the set.
Its all a matter of speculation and opinion.
What value you put on something, rarely meets anothers agreement.

y2k3Joker

10-23-2006, 11:17 PM

Who here wouldn't mind working for Loren?

let's see a show of hands ........ You bunch of SLACKERS :eek:

lilhave

10-23-2006, 11:28 PM

Who here wouldn't mind working for Loren?

let's see a show of hands ........ You bunch of SLACKERS :eek:

If I didn't have bursitis I would raise my hand. Don't bet on it.

Harvey

loren

10-24-2006, 12:00 AM

Remember when I wanted Cagney and Lacey from you

And you wanted New Outer Limits? To me that ws rare. It was 9 discs short of the same disc count but you said Cagney was rare.
So even though I just made a set, even though no one else at the time had it
you didn't consider it rare.

there in lies my best point

i do the work to get around

i dont just hang here and hope something turns up

like the consumate slackers do

i knew where there was a complete outer limits set

and i was offered another one on more discs previous to your attempt

i passed on it, since i didnt want to cut it down to a managable size

yes to you it was a long process and hard to do all that work

to me it wasnt hard to find

i knew at least two others

and when yours wasnt quite complete

i was owed eps by one source and filled it in a couple minutes

so a persons perception of rare, isnt a factual thing without a large enough sample of info

i see quite a number of have and want lists

it comes with reading and paying attention to lists

rather than watching survivor

cagney and lacy was a monster hit for me

a mega monster in fact

i still move it, since my set doesnt have the audio sync problems that the other set thats circulating has--

and oh ya, my cagney and lacy was actualy complete, unlike the other one which wasnt completed as per advertised

like lamont said earlier

theres lots of huge collections out there

that aerent on this site

this is a small pond, a nice pond, but limited

thats why persceptions of rare and not, are scewed at times

Lex Luthor

10-24-2006, 01:06 AM

And they'll continue debating it forever just because ...

This debate just never ends ... (repeat, repeat)

RedWhine56

10-24-2006, 01:22 AM

robyrob

10-24-2006, 09:59 AM

so after 4 pages has this set made it to the "Epic List" yet?

lilhave

10-24-2006, 10:05 AM

I thought epic was reserved for "Long Johnny Wadd"

Harvey, his little cousin

TVFactFan

10-24-2006, 11:22 AM

Lou Costello

10-24-2006, 11:35 AM

You noticed that too-lol

Yes, how some folks think their lists are better than others here, or refuse to trade with others, or thinking folks are salivating over their HAVE lists, when most people's lists are mostly the same it seems...

I see lots of good lists here, but I could never, say this list is better than this other list, or insult someone else for having this or that, and/or not sharing this or that, and/or refusing to share this or that... I do enjoy reading here, and seeing and reading bickering over, this list or that person's list is ridiculous.

Especially if someone asks about a set or show, and a person declines a trade, that is fine..but to insult and say, your lists stinks, you could never get what I have, and I would never trade it for your stuff, etc..is quite petty and rude..which leads to being singled out as loserville :rofl:

Am just quietly reading here, figuring things out for myself, staying behind the scenes...watching and reading...seeing "Who is Who" around here, who is scamming, who lies, who is reptuable, who is friendly, who is trickery, who is conniving, etc... :rofl:

but this site is quite good...as long as people do not put themselves on some pedestle. (sp)? because if they do? they will surely find themselves all alone with no takers or online friendships...
:wave:

loren

10-24-2006, 12:03 PM

You noticed that too-lol

why is it always the ones who dont put the effort out, and dont have much, are the ones who want to share??

ever notice that while your noticing things ?

this isnt a share site, its a trade site and discussion area

share sites are called distro sites

where things are passed freely amongst the membership

here, to make a trade, you need something that is wanted

not some common, or old tired item thats made the rounds for a long time

once again, instead of crying the blues, put out the effort and/or expense of getting some prime items

it not easy, thats why not everyone does it, its far easier to whine about

TVFactFan

10-24-2006, 12:26 PM

Yes, how some folks think their lists are better than others here, or refuse to trade with others, or thinking folks are salivating over their HAVE lists, when most people's lists are mostly the same it seems...

I see lots of good lists here, but I could never, say this list is better than this other list, or insult someone else for having this or that, and/or not sharing this or that, and/or refusing to share this or that... I do enjoy reading here, and seeing and reading bickering over, this list or that person's list is ridiculous.

Especially if someone asks about a set or show, and a person declines a trade, that is fine..but to insult and say, your lists stinks, you could never get what I have, and I would never trade it for your stuff, etc..is quite petty and rude..which leads to being singled out as loserville :rofl:

Am just quietly reading here, figuring things out for myself, staying behind the scenes...watching and reading...seeing "Who is Who" around here, who is scamming, who lies, who is reptuable, who is friendly, who is trickery, who is conniving, etc... :rofl:

but this site is quite good...as long as people do not put themselves on some pedestle. (sp)? because if they do? they will surely find themselves all alone with no takers or online friendships...
:wave:

It's probably because of the Trader Award that comes out in July

TVFactFan

10-24-2006, 12:29 PM

why is it always the ones who dont put the effort out, and dont have much, are the ones who want to share??

ever notice that while your noticing things ?

this isnt a share site, its a trade site and discussion area

share sites are called distro sites

where things are passed freely amongst the membership

here, to make a trade, you need something that is wanted

not some common, or old tired item thats made the rounds for a long time

once again, instead of crying the blues, put out the effort and/or expense of getting some prime items

it not easy, thats why not everyone does it, its far easier to whine about

I'm in that situation now where a Sports Trader has something I want and a TV trader has something I want and i have nothing to offer either of them and it's killing me-lol So i just have to be aggressive in finding something they want

loren

10-24-2006, 12:37 PM

I'm in that situation now where a Sports Trader has something I want and a TV trader has something I want and i have nothing to offer either of them and it's killing me-lol So i just have to be aggressive in finding something they want

i give you credit for knowing you need to beat some bushes

it sure as heck isnt easy to set out and do that

i cant tell you how many times i have been scammed or stolen from on these quests

and the email response of 1 in 20 is very un nerving

but to get the really good items, it needs to go that way

keep plugging along, it will pay off in the long haul

this hobby is like so many other things in real life, you get out only wnat you put into it

LTWF

10-24-2006, 02:21 PM

loren

10-24-2006, 02:26 PM

do you want to know what really stinks?

when someone puts on a lot of hours authoring a set that they have spent months if not years compiling from various sources,only to trade it,and some bloodsucking leech of a "trader" gets his sweaty hands on it and flogs it off to all and sundry for extortionate sums of money on i-offer or some similar site......

they deserve to choke on the ill-gotten proceeds :mad:

it seems that you are a banned member from thsi site

with another new name

how are you doing gary?

and the truth of the matter is

your a seller as well

isnt that special ??

but thanks for your insight

Michael Randazzo

10-24-2006, 02:27 PM

y2k3Joker

10-24-2006, 02:30 PM

Can we all please get along? Chris, Harvey, and Loren, lets all meet at my house and have a good time. I am in the center of you three locations wise and I am handycapped.

I have extra rooms, bring your premium stuff and we can swap in person, and go to a Skins game. Let me know Thanks and God Bless

Michael

Consider all this, Must-See-TV .... and it's free entertainment !!!

Well, until Loren figures out a way to charge all you guys for it.

Lou Costello

10-24-2006, 02:32 PM

bring your premium stuff

Again with the Premium stuff? No one here has any premium stuff...I haven't seen it...point me to their list, I'll decide what is premium or not. :conan:

p.s. yes, that would be awful for someone to spend hard earned time and resources on a show or episodes, only to have another trader reap financial benefits? that is bad..poor judgment..

:conan:

lilhave

10-24-2006, 02:38 PM

Can we all please get along? Chris, Harvey, and Loren, lets all meet at my house and have a good time. I am in the center of you three locations wise and I am handycapped.

I have extra rooms, bring your premium stuff and we can swap in person, and go to a Skins game. Let me know Thanks and God Bless

Michael

I'll come but forget the Skins game. Yea, Giants. Loren's coming? Sorry I'm tied up.

Harvey

lilhave

10-24-2006, 02:43 PM

Again with the Premium stuff? No one here has any premium stuff...I haven't seen it...point me to their list, I'll decide what is premium or not. :conan:

p.s. yes, that would be awful for someone to spend hard earned time and resources on a show or episodes, only to have another trader reap financial benefits? that is bad..poor judgment..

:conan:

What's premium? If you have about nine hours to kill, sit down with loren and allow him to explain the in's and out's of premium trading. At the end of nine hours you might o.d. on 53 excedrin.

Harvey

Lou Costello

10-24-2006, 02:52 PM

What's premium? If you have about nine hours to kill, sit down with loren and allow him to explain the in's and out's of premium trading. At the end of nine hours you might o.d. on 53 excedrin.

Harvey

:boxing: Oh? Is this true? It seems from what I've seen, Loren is the only member here with a Premium List?..sorry, but it makes me laugh. :rofl: no offense to Loren, it's the listing or naming of his items is all.....just the "Premium List" part of it.. it's so :gossip :rofl: :clap

I do not have several hours to discuss premium this or that...to each their own I guess....just it's a given, everyone has items they value over others... fine. But that does not translate to meaning, that YOU, the trader, will value the item the same way, thus a trade would be not be possible... :conan:

loren

10-24-2006, 02:53 PM

Consider all this, Must-See-TV .... and it's free entertainment !!!

Well, until Loren figures out a way to charge all you guys for it.

thats funny

you know if you listen to all these know it alls

you would think lorens the only seller around here

thanks for the good publicity

the fact is, lorens about the only person on this site,that has a decent list, whos not on ioffer or ebay selling the same discs they grab from youall

but keep me in mind

Lou Costello

10-24-2006, 02:57 PM

thats funny

you know if you listen to all these know it alls

you would think lorens the only seller around here

thanks for the good publicity

the fact is, lorens about the only person on this site,that has a decent list, whos not on ioffer or ebay selling the same discs they grab from youall

but keep me in mind
:clap in fairness, Loren does have a good list... :tiphat:

loren

10-24-2006, 02:57 PM

I'll come but forget the Skins game. Yea, Giants. Loren's coming? Sorry I'm tied up.

Harvey

harvey probably couldnt make it any how

he would sit and wait by the bus stop for someone to come along and give him a bus ticket

he wouldnt go look for one, he would just sit and cry that he couldnt use his 1936 long expired bus pass, for a trip to dc

hey harvey, ill toss in $5 for you to get a premium seat on the bus for the outing

y2k3Joker

10-24-2006, 02:58 PM

the fact is, lorens about the only person on this site,that has a decent list, whos not on ioffer or ebay selling the same discs they grab from youall

but keep me in mind

My Bad

I forgot you're only a "supplier" now - Moved up to wholesale instead of retail.

It's important to distinguish one's self - I get that.

loren

10-24-2006, 03:06 PM

My Bad

I forgot you're only a "supplier" now - Moved up to wholesale instead of retail.

It's important to distinguish one's self - I get that.

absolutely correct

why be like the rest of youall who tote off things to ebay and ioffer

i avoid the commission fees

and the endless paperwork of non paying buyers

and i surely dont miss all those lame questions about things that are clearly spelled out in the listings as well

Lou Costello

10-24-2006, 03:08 PM

My Bad

I forgot you're only a "supplier" now - Moved up to wholesale instead of retail.

It's important to distinguish one's self - I get that.

:rofl: :clown:

:conan:

Lou Costello

10-24-2006, 03:10 PM

offtopic:

:conan:

RedWhine56

10-24-2006, 03:11 PM

the fact is, lorens about the only person on this site,that has a decent list, whos not on ioffer or ebay selling the same discs they grab from youall

Now, THAT is funny. Let's see, that would be because you've apparently not set up (yet another) new account after getting kicked out of Ebay & Ioffer.

Just give him time.

loren

10-24-2006, 03:17 PM

Now, THAT is funny. Let's see, that would be because you've apparently not set up (yet another) new account after getting kicked out of Ebay & Ioffer.

Just give him time.

incorrect

i have two ebay accounts for other things

motorcycle parts, etc

and have no plan to get back on with dvds there

its been well over a year since i sold one there

i have no ioffer account at all

and have no plans to get another one

its been over 8 months since i have been on there

so you have been a little mis informed

which seems to be very normal around here

RedWhine56

10-24-2006, 03:22 PM

incorrect

i have two ebay accounts for other things

motorcycle parts, etc

and have no plan to get back on with dvds there

its been well over a year since i sold one there

i have no ioffer account at all

and have no plans to get another one

its been over 8 months since i have been on there

so you have been a little mis informed

which seems to be very normal around here

Oh, no, my information is quite correct.

y2k3Joker

10-24-2006, 03:25 PM

i have no ioffer account at all

and have no plans to get another one

its been over 8 months since i have been on there

You're starting to sound more and more like a recovering addict or alcoholic --- where have you been for the past 8 months? in a detox center? :help

Is there an equivalent to the Betty Ford Center for recovering i-offer addicts?

loren

10-24-2006, 03:36 PM

Oh, no, my information is quite correct.

then why has loren waited so long to jump back on??

if your info is accurate??

care to wager an interesting amount

ill wager that old loren doesnt list dvds on ebay or ioffer

i dont think so

talk is so very cheap

and so is rumors

but info is priceless

gilligan fanatic

10-24-2006, 03:49 PM

Now I want to stay out of this because I don't mess around with I Offer or Ebay, but I have a question Loren. How much from your premium list do you trade on average. If I put a lot of work in a trade I would want as many people to have it so I would feel my work was used more instead of just moving every once in a while. Again, this is just out of curiosity.

RedWhine56

10-24-2006, 04:02 PM

then why has loren waited so long to jump back on??

if your info is accurate??

care to wager an interesting amount

ill wager that old loren doesnt list dvds on ebay or ioffer

i dont think so

talk is so very cheap

and so is rumors

but info is priceless

No, information is knowledge.

How odd that you're wanting to bet that you won't ever sell on Ebay or Ioffer again...who are you trying to convince? I know I'm certainly convinced that the first chance you get, you will. Until you get kicked out again. (shrug)

lilhave

10-24-2006, 04:13 PM

thats funny

you know if you listen to all these know it alls

you would think lorens the only seller around here

thanks for the good publicity

the fact is, lorens about the only person on this site,that has a decent list, whos not on ioffer or ebay selling the same discs they grab from youall

but keep me in mind

At least your telling the truth. You were kicked off Ioffer numerous times using different names and from Ebay. Sel.com is where you hang your hat now.

Harvey

lilhave

10-24-2006, 04:22 PM

You're starting to sound more and more like a recovering addict or alcoholic --- where have you been for the past 8 months? in a detox center? :help

Is there an equivalent to the Betty Ford Center for recovering i-offer addicts?

Keep this in mind. While others sell, they do so as a supplement to their regular earnings. If they don't sell, obviously no extra income. So he has a perfect right to be more greedy, more selfish then the next and if he sends you a bad disk and you ask to have it replaced, to charge you or say'don't bother me" and block your email. If he sells you a set like my three sons for $250.00 and it has 11 disks screwed up, refuse to fix it or refund you money with the statement " a big set like that, 11 bad disks is average"

Yes, he has a big list and a big pair.

Harvey

RedWhine56

10-24-2006, 04:42 PM

At least your telling the truth. You were kicked off Ioffer numerous times using different names and from Ebay. Sel.com is where you hang your hat now.

Harvey

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

And don't forget obo.com

Lex Luthor

10-24-2006, 04:51 PM

the fact is, lorens about the only person on this site,that has a decent list, whos not on ioffer or ebay selling the same discs they grab from youall

Okay I planned on keeping out of this but... Come on man! Your high and mighty anti-Ioffer stance is really getting old. You are 100% correct that you do not sell on Ioffer and that there are others here who do. What you seem to neglect to inform people (at least in this thread) is that you did sell on Ioffer and would still be doing so if you could (100% not your fault I know it was a vindictive trader). Please get off the "I am not an Ioffer seller" soapbox because you know you would prefer to still be there.

lazygrae

10-24-2006, 05:08 PM

Loren, have you ever considered the merits of practicing what you preach and putting in some leg work yourself to come up with something really premium, like Hot L Baltimore, or San Pedro Beach Bums, or New People, or, you know, something RARE, before patting yourself on the back?

That would be something.

But taking one of the most oft-syndicated tv shows of all time, a show that tons of traders have had for years and years before you ever got into this hobby, or should I say business, and calling it premium just because you authored it with nice menus? Big deal, one hardly worth all the self-praise you've heaped on yourself in this thread.

giltdunn

10-24-2006, 05:22 PM

For your information, Loren, not every big trader here sells on ebay, ioffer etc - I certainly do not, never have and never will. However, it does tick me off to see a set I have authored after spending years tracking it down from various sources being offered for sale at extortionate prices. Broken Arrow was all my own work and for anyone else who needs a set, I'll trade you for it and I do not have a premium list. I am also in the process of reauthoring a complete set of the extremely rare Klondike series, just waiting on one episode to complete. That will also be available to anyone on sitcoms who wants it. From my point of view Premium listing is against the spirit of trading and I for one won't deal with it.

jie3

10-24-2006, 05:47 PM

whos not on ioffer or ebay selling the same discs they grab from youall

Ok, I was going to stay out of this for the sake of not creating any bad blood between us, but I can't hold my tongue any longer.

Loren, mabey you don't sell on ioffer, mabey you do, I don't know, but the fact is, you do sell!

So what's the difference if it's on Ioffer, ebay or just through this board? What makes your method of selling any different than ioffer sellers'?

selling the same discs they grab from youall

The first dvd set I ever bought was the 43 disc Beverly Hillbillies set from you. which was created by Padre. You didn't sell it through Ioffer, but you still made financial gain from someone else's work.

the fact is, lorens about the only person on this site,that has a decent list, whos not on ioffer or ebay

I think that's a bit unfair, just because someone's list isn't massive, it doesn't mean that it's not 'decent'.

Just my two cents.

J