I have just joined up after finding some really cheap sets for sale. Fancied one or two. Just wondering if it is any good and how reliable are feedback ratings on it? Being a Brit I have not had any experience with the service.

Any help would be appreciated:wave:

ioffer is like any site, some good members, some scammers--- some theifs (avoid ANYONE from loudon tn!)
BUT check the feedback on ioffer they have a FEEDBACK GRABBER so u can have 500 feedbacks on ebay for buying penny auctions and transfer them over and it might MAKE u LOOK like a good seller, when u arent, so be sure to check them out

I have just joined up after finding some really cheap sets for sale. Fancied one or two. Just wondering if it is any good and how reliable are feedback ratings on it? Being a Brit I have not had any experience with the service.

Any help would be appreciated:wave:

There is a Latin phrase in the legal system, "Caveat Emptor", let the buyer beware. Like anything else in life it's a gamble. In many cases a real big gamble. Try to get as much info about the seller you can.

Harvey

As Lamont said, Ioffer is no different from other auction sites. But it seems to me, buyers are less inclined to leave feedback on Ioffer than on Ebay. So quite often, you'll see large numbers of unrated transactions for a seller. I tend to overlook the unrated & focus on the ratio of postives to neg/neutrals & read why someone left a neg/neutral. I don't buy on Ioffer as much as Ebay, but the few times I've purchased from Ioffer, I was happy with the purchase.

One more thing, all auction sites are simply venues. So they both tend to have good sellers & bad sellers and (IMO) the feedback left by buyers is what makes the thing work or not. So just be cautious about researching the seller & only purchase from sellers with very good feedback.

The last set I got from ioffer was the complete Flintstones collection, advertised as 8/10 on quality branded discs.

What I got was a set so used and badly scratched that not one disc will play, copy or work with any file recovery software.

J

I've had generally good luck with what I've purchased on iOffer. I don't buy a lot, and I tend to comparison shop - I look at multiple listings, the feedback entered on iOffer transactions, the price, the way a seller answers questions, etc. There's no guarantees, but overall, I've been pleased. I've been ripped off fewer times on iOffer than on eBay, but I've bought a lot more on eBay over a much longer period of time. I think I've had something like 10 transactions on iOffer, and on eBay I've got a 518 rating, and nowhere near all of my transactions received feedback. Ugh, that's depressing ... no wonder I have so much stuff.

Before making an offer, check the seller's feedback and prior auctions on the same item to see what something has sold for in the past, then you can offer something a bit less for it. What usually happens is the seller will accept it, or counter for something higher, then you can offer something in the middle.

ioffer is like any site, some good members, some scammers--- some theifs (avoid ANYONE from loudon tn!)
BUT check the feedback on ioffer they have a FEEDBACK GRABBER so u can have 500 feedbacks on ebay for buying penny auctions and transfer them over and it might MAKE u LOOK like a good seller, when u arent, so be sure to check them out


what he said

plus

a person can get other peoples feedback--not even theirs, and look like a big time honest seller

there are members on sitcoms right now, who have --FAKE-- feedback on their ioffer account

its not even theirs

you can import anyones into anyones account


so be very careful, on any adventure like this

once you send the money, your at the mercy of the seller

and all the fine print will not help you one bit, unless the seller is honest


and as far as reading about the other people who bought the same set

one can have unlimited accounts on ioffer and give themselves feedback for a transaction that never happened

so reading isnt going to help either

Ioffer is pretty safe now.

We've gotten rid of pretty much all the riffraff

They've all moved on to better places - some of them have set up squatters rights, here at sitcoms.

JN

Ioffer is pretty safe now.

We've gotten rid of pretty much all the riffraff

They've all moved on to better places - some of them have set up squatters rights, here at sitcoms.

JN

confushious say

ioffer seller who has fake feedback should not run off at mouth so much

perhaps things will not turn out like one planned

squat on that one

confushious say

ioffer seller who has fake feedback should not run off at mouth so much

perhaps things will not turn out like one planned

squat on that one


Confucius also say

"The Pot shall not call the kettle black"

and

"Person who live in glass house shall not cast stone upon neighbor's house"


I still luv 'ya dogg - missed ya while you were in the hole.

Groan.

Ok ok ok .....anyone else have anything to add? Other than the fortune cookie ad libs?

Most of the sets on iOffer came from here. You'd be better off finding a person on here and getting whatever set you're looking for from them.

Absolutely good advice.

Confucius also say

"The Pot shall not call the kettle black"

and

"Person who live in glass house shall not cast stone upon neighbor's house"


I still luv 'ya dogg - missed ya while you were in the hole.



old loren can cast stones in every direction

since he can prove that his ioffer feedback was 100% his

old lorens ebay feedback is still viewable

and since old loren hasnt been on ioffer in over 8 months now, his feedback wasnt in question


i bet old joker cant do the same thing

can he ??

care to tell everyone how you all of a sudden got a bunch of feedback that wasnt yours??

or is that more cps priveledge ??

come joker,

you always seem to have no problem expressing yourself

tell the group where your ill gotten feedback came from

we are waiting


remember, you rattle my cage, i bite


and when it comes to luv, you got all i have , old bud

if we could only use our talents for common good, and not evil

:brent :brent




remember, you rattle my cage, i bite





You seem to forget, I'm the only one you can't bully around either - So what are you trying to prove?



I bet it's killing you that in OVER A YEAR OF SEARCHING you still haven't been able to link anything up, huh??

:brent :brent





You seem to forget, I'm the only one you can't bully around either - So what are you trying to prove?



I bet it's killing you that in OVER A YEAR OF SEARCHING you still haven't been able to link anything up, huh??

i havent posted in 10 days

and the second i do old joker jumps in behind me and runs his pie hole

im surprised that harvey didnt beat you to it

another wealth of mis information

hey joker

answer the question

where did you get the fake feedback from ??

or would that be telling

since it sure as heck isnt yours

i remember when you used to cry like a school girl

boo hoo, i dont have any feedback, and old loren has 1400

i cant compete

boo hoo


and exactly what am i looking for after an entire year??

care to give me a hint??

its not a game if only one side gets to play

Most of the sets on iOffer came from here. You'd be better off finding a person on here and getting whatever set you're looking for from them.

i supply numerous ioffer sellers, with inventory

and i dont have fake feedback

come to the source

:brent :brent

i supply numerous ioffer sellers, with inventory

and i dont have fake feedback

come to the source

Auction sellers tend to value few discs for higher prices, so you more often than not end up with the lowest quality homemade version that exists for a show, and on the cheapest penny DVDs money can buy.

Beware, indeed!

i havent posted in 10 days

and the second i do old joker jumps in behind me and runs his pie hole

im surprised that harvey didnt beat you to it

another wealth of mis information



Did anybody talk about you ??

All I said was the "RiffRaff" was chased out of Ioffer -

It's not my fault you're so insecure and think everyone is talking about you. Maybe it's a result of who you keep/kept company with - i guess it rubs off after awhile.

but what do i know ???


(be careful, I'm pretty good at the bait and hook game)

Did anybody talk about you ??

All I said was the "RiffRaff" was chased out of Ioffer -

It's not my fault you're so insecure and think everyone is talking about you. Maybe it's a result of who you keep/kept company with - i guess it rubs off after awhile.

but what do i know ???


(be careful, I'm pretty good at the bait and hook game)

i never noticed

i thought you were very good at ducking the straight foward questions presented to you

where did you you get the fake ioffer feedback that you felt the need to have

its a fair question

not only is it 100% dishonest, its further compounds the matter by trying to divert attention from it

you know--a l;ie covered by another lie


and as far as your slight of hand comment about the riff raff not being on ioffer anymore

it seems like im the only person on this site, that was on ioffer and isnt anymore

and you posted exactly after me

so theres little doubt who your refering to


instead of ducking and jiveing

just tell everyone why you felt the need to use false feedback

we have established that you do have tons of fake feedback

im asking very nicely why

further

arent you still a member of the elite group

cps

i thought they had rules about not allowing public sellers

and yet you break that one as well

where is the deceit going to end ?


had enough fun yet??

i hope you still have a place in your heart for me

we have established that you do have tons of fake feedback
You have accused Joker of having fake feedback, but you have not established anything.

old loren can...prove that his ioffer feedback was 100% his
Okay, I'll bite: prove it to us.

To the original poster:
The advice given out by BeefyBoyGod and lordsmurf is, imho, the best so far on this topic and I second it: find what you want from a collector who is not chasing the almighty $$ and you will almost certainly do better, or at least, as-good, and with less expense.

God help you if the Canadiens lose the hockey game.
You'll feel my full wrath if that happens

be back in a minute ...

Goodness. As much as I'd prefer the Canadiens to win, I almost hope they don't so we can see the wrath of Joker in full force.

You have accused Joker of having fake feedback, but you have not established anything
Okay, I'll bite: prove it to us.

go to his ioffer home page

look at the feedback number

then look at how many he imported from another source

which of course is 3/4

he didnt have an ebay account of his own

so the only way he could import feedback

was by using someone elses

someone who actualy earned the feedback

and allowed him to use it


yes many ioffer sellers do the same thing as joker did

its just plain wrong

then old joker diverts attention to me



ill now prove my feedback was legit

my long ago closed ebay account can still be looked at

lorenw is the user name

1323 feedback score

with only 1 negative

i signed up in 1997

i imported this feedback into ioffer and then got another couple hundred on the site

its legit to import your own earned feedback on ioffer

which of course that shows on my ioffer--closed--account

loren


now i sure hope that this once and for all shows whom has legit feedback,and whom has fake feedback

i understand how joker needed to divert the attention and try and make me the one who is trying to pull something

whith the pot and kettle story, and then the casting stones story


so now ill offer up the same question again

hey mr joker

why did you resort to using fake feedback to trick buyers???

i bet we dont see an answer this time as well


garsh, should i go on and expose a few more people with fake feedback while im at it

no, not until they run their mouth behind me

i have been gone for over a week, and i sure as heck didnt start this, but ill certainly pose the hard questions


ok old buddy joker, its time for you to rattle someone elses cage

try someoen that doesnt bite

Not's so fast there buddy - the story is being written as I type this in another window (I love multi-tasking - don't you?)

Running it through spell check and everything just to make sure everything is JUSSSSTTT RIGHTTTTT (kidding of course)


You know what, I think I will have to copyright the story after because it has potential for a REALITY-TV series. No joke. It's good stuff.

Not's so fast there buddy - the story is being written as I type this in another window (I love multi-taking - don't you?)

Running it through spell check and everything just to make sure everything is JUSSSSTTT RIGHTTTTT (kidding of course)


You know what, I think I will have to copyright the story after because it has potential for a REALITY-TV series. No joke. It's good stuff.


im on the edge of my chair

come on already

To the original poster:
The advice given out by BeefyBoyGod and lordsmurf is, imho, the best so far on this topic and I second it: find what you want from a collector who is not chasing the almighty $$ and you will almost certainly do better, or at least, as-good, and with less expense.


we need a list of names, of the people on this site who arent --as you put it--chasing the almighty $$

it would surely be a very very small list

ill certainly pose the hard questions
So will I:

he didnt have an ebay account of his own
And you can prove that, how?

my long ago closed ebay account can still be looked at
...
i imported this feedback into ioffer and then got another couple hundred on the site

I understand that you imported your own, earned, eBay feedback, but how does doing that preclude you from getting fake feedback?

it would surely be a very very small list
Do you think? My guess would have been the exact opposite. Certainly the vast, vast majority of people I trade with here are hobbyists, not dealers.

Not's so fast there buddy - the story is being written as I type this in another window (I love multi-tasking - don't you?)

Running it through spell check and everything just to make sure everything is JUSSSSTTT RIGHTTTTT (kidding of course)


You know what, I think I will have to copyright the story after because it has potential for a REALITY-TV series. No joke. It's good stuff.

HEEEEE's BAAAAAACk omg:


:)

Dude, you just don't get it ...

I COULDN"T CARE LESS IF YOU THINK I HAVE FAKE FEEDBACK !!

In fact, I think I prefer you think I have fake feedback.
My reputation is established whether you like it or not - Having or not having feedback doesn't mean s**t to me?

The less you can link up to me, the better (there's a bigger picture here to consider) And I'm not playing your silly game as much as you'd like me to

Can I be any more clear?


As for CPS, no longer a member there either. My creativity on the board was being stifled. I need artistic freedom and I just wasn't getting it there. Learned a lot of technical stuff from LS, Phillip and some other people there, but I had to move on - how many times can I verbally abuse Ninjastriker ?? c'mon!!. :D Besides, all the good action is here and I didn't want you to be all by yourself - who would bring out the best in you if I wasn't around.
We're a team - "The Greatest Show on Sitcoms"

Now, back to you.

Why so insecure Big Guy!? You are the President & CEO of the "Loren Empire" aren't you. The baddest dude in bootleg dvd's - Why are you so threatened by a lil' ol hoser from the great white north?

You know, there used to be a lady on this board who displayed the same kind of paranoia - she kept crying about how everyone "was talking about her" and crying to moderators about how people were calling her these bad names and stuff .... lived around your neck of the woods I think .... maybe an hour and half away or so, wouldn't you say ??? hey, that's probably nothing on your "Goldwing" right ? A nice Sunday afternoon drive to the big city ... maybe pop in and say hello to an old friend ..... go out for a bite or some drinks .... then later go back to her place ......


(to be continued ...)

The Freddy's Nightmares sets that are up on iOffer, I made. All four different versions of them. Lord knows which one is which since disc count is the same on all. The first version is really crappy.

The Midnight Caller episodes that pop up there, came from me and mhadley.

Both are pretty widely circulated somehow, yet I've seen very few trades, and the iOffer people keep making bank. Almost makes one wish they hadn't bothered creating a set in the first place. Blargh.

So will I:

Do you think? My guess would have been the exact opposite. Certainly the vast, vast majority of people I trade with here are hobbyists, not dealers.

the statement i made refered to all sitcoms trade area regulars

not just a few folks that are in one persons trade circle

and even the folks you refered to, are sellers and high priced sellers at that

i happen to make it my business to know the names of people who sell and where, since so many use cover names

its not real tough, since im one of the first to be offered what ever is around, even if i already have it on my list for 6 months months

many of the same folks that run off at the mouth against sellers, or profit takers, what ever the term is today

are also just jealous sellers in their own right, trying to discredit someone else, so they can get some of the pudding for themselves

and then in truth, the next time they have a fish on the hook, they knock at my door, so they can make a return on their investment

just a little while ago, one of these very same people posted here that sellers use cheapo discs , another lame attempt to further discredit other sellers, when in truth, the very same person is a very high priced seller themselves

a majority of people here have an agenda,

thanks joker for once again skirting the issue and trying to tell a little story

your feedback is absolutely fake

but dont feel sad, your in good company, there are several others who pulled the same crap

you didnt earn it on ebay and you didnt earn it on ioffer

someone else did

you cried the blues when you first started, that you couldnt compete and had no feedback

so you did something about it

way to go


and in case you dont remember

you posted behind me and rattled my cage

so the insecure one is isnt old loren, of the loren empire


have a nice evening, i need to get back to the empire

see you in the funny papers

i havent posted in 10 days

and the second i do old joker jumps in behind me and runs his pie hole

im surprised that harvey didnt beat you to it

another wealth of mis information

hey joker

answer the question

where did you get the fake feedback from ??

or would that be telling

since it sure as heck isnt yours

i remember when you used to cry like a school girl

boo hoo, i dont have any feedback, and old loren has 1400

i cant compete

boo hoo


and exactly what am i looking for after an entire year??

care to give me a hint??

its not a game if only one side gets to play

Loren, keep your bull**** to yourself. I did not mention your name, said nothing about your rhetoric but you had some ill advised desire to bring up my name. I don't appreciate it and resent it. So you can stick it where the sun don't shine. I haven't mentined your name in a half a year. To me you don't exist, so leave me out of your childish games. Maybe Joker loves ya but I don't.

Harvey who is not a fan

Loren, keep your bull**** to yourself. I did not mention your name, said nothing about your rhetoric but you had some ill advised desire to bring up my name. I don't appreciate it and resent it. So you can stick it where the sun don't shine. I haven't mentined your name in a half a year. To me you don't exist, so leave me out of your childish games. Maybe Joker loves ya but I don't.

Harvey who is not a fan


what joker says is important

unlike what you squalk about

stay out of grown ups business

go get you some game before you enter the zone

and yes you run your pie hole 20 times about my premium list

or did you forget already

your the king at following my posts for some reason

and crying that no one will give you premium stuff

loren wont give me his best stuff for my tired stuff that no one wants

boo hoo hoo


arent you the same guy who claimed they never benifited from sellers, and thats where you get 90% of your stuff

i know you forget a lot, how about forgetting to post behind me and cry about the premium list

stay tuned, thursday will be announcement day for a new premium list set

oh boy

i havent posted in 10 days

and the second i do old joker jumps in behind me and runs his pie hole



Hold up Loren

Since Jokers been back you have been firing pot shots, some might say taking advantage of his probation. If you look back you thread started this with a little shot about "fake feedback" any issue everyone knows you have brought up time and again in reference to Joker.

"You can only poke a dog so much before he bites back" a wise man once said.

You seem to forget, I'm the only one you can't bully around either - So what are you trying to prove?




If I weren't busy with other engagements I might actually take some offence to this.

Oh there goes the bell ... gotta go round 3 startin

If I weren't busy with other engagements I might actually take some offence to this.

Oh there goes the bell ... gotta go round 3 startin

what did you think of your poster? :D check your hotmail. sent it there

Breather.


Even sporting events get a whistle now and then.