Lionel or Mother Jefferson in season 1? I'm asking this because Mike evans left because Zara Cully was used a lot more while he was used a lot less which led to him leaving the show. Of course I would have preferred to see more of Lionel in season 1

I much preferred Zara Cully (Mother Jefferson). She was the only one on the show who could get Louise to break character. Louise was the sweetest lady ever and could hold her own with anyone- except Mother Jefferson.

Mother Jefferson brought out the best and worst in Louise.

Mother J.

Lionel number one had too much of an "attitude" that I could do without.

I must be in the TWILIGHT ZONE anytime mother jefferson is winning 83 to 16. That's ridiculous

I would have to go with Mother Jefferson, she might've been old but she was funny.

I must be in the TWILIGHT ZONE anytime mother jefferson is winning 83 to 16. That's ridiculous

Well you asked. Obviously, you are the only Mother Jefferson basher on here.(how many times you're going to bring up about hating her?) I voted for her because she brought comic relief to the show. Lionel didn't bring anything to the show. He was funny on All In the Family.

I must be in the TWILIGHT ZONE anytime mother jefferson is winning 83 to 16. That's ridiculous


You have got to face it Solomon, Lionel was more of a straight man on the Jeffersons.

I think Lionel's funniest scenes was on AITF when he was baiting Archie.

You have got to face it Solomon, Lionel was more of a straight man on the Jeffersons.


Right, and he would have been a great straight man to George's personality but none of the writers never thought of it.



BTW: I just want to say this is the most shocking result of a TV Debate I have ever seen on SitcomsOnline. Unbelievable

I'm still the only one who voted for Lionel.b Cannot believe this at all

I'm with you on this one Solomon. I couldn't stand George's mother.

I stated this five years ago. It was my third post here, lol. My screen name then was Wan66 (don't ask).

It's post #9. I was such a beee-tch back then. lol.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?p=83498#post83498

I like both characters very well. However, I had to go with Mother Jefferson on this one. She did indeed bring out the best and worse in Louise. I also loved it when she had interactions with Mr. Bentley. It is remarkable how great Zara Cully's performances were being in her mid-80s. Several women at that age have a lot of trouble even walking around and remembering everyone's name. Zara was memorizing a ton of lines and delivering them with excellent comedic timing. Had it not been for her cancer, I am confident that Zara would have lived to be in her 90s and performed on the show throughout maybe its entire run. But it just was not meant to be.

Zara needed the screen time early on anyways. No one knew how much longer she was going to be around. She was obviously more popular than Lionel according to most fans. She had passed away by Season 4 so there was plenty of time left for Mike Evans to come back and play Lionel, but he did not come back until Season 6 and then left again soon after that. Why not stay, Mike? The old bird wasn't around anymore.

Also, this show was not really a family show with a mom, a dad, and kids like The Cosby Show or Family Matters. Those shows would have been weird if they never showed the kids (although we all know how weird it got when Judy was kidnapped by aliens and wiped her family's memories of her ever existing clean) but the Jeffersons was not affected by the absence of the main characters' kid. It had a couple with some weird neighbors and one child who was in college. I do not think that this show realy needed to show the couple's kid. Not to say that I disliked Lionel. I liked him a lot but I think that the show could have and did feature many more humorous situations with other characters.

I like both characters very well. However, I had to go with Mother Jefferson on this one. She did indeed bring out the best and worse in Louise. I also loved it when she had interactions with Mr. Bentley. It is remarkable how grat Zara Cully's performances were being in her mid-80s. Several women at that age have a lot of trouble even walking around and remembering everyone's name. Zara was memorizing a ton of lines and delivering them with excellent comedic timing. Had it not been for her cancer, I am confident that Zara could have lived to be in her 90s and performed on the show throughout maybe it entire run. But it just was not meant to be.

Zara needed the screen time early on anyways. No one knew how much longer she was going to be around. She was obviously more popular than Lionel according to most fans. She had passed away by Season 4 so there was plenty of time left for Mike Evans to come back and play Lionel, but he did not come back until Season 6 and then left again soon after that. Why not stay, Mike? The old bird wasn't around anymore.

Also, this show was not excatly a family show with a mom, a dad, and kids. It had a couple with some weird neighbors and one child who was in college. I do not think that this show realy needed to show the couple's kid. Not to say that I disliked Lionel. I liked him a lot but I think that the show could have and did feature many more humorous situations with other characters.


I don't think the show needed the Star's mother either. Especially when she was only seen once on All in the Family

I'm with you on this one Solomon. I couldn't stand George's mother.

I stated this five years ago. It was my third post here, lol. My screen name then was Wan66 (don't ask).

It's post #9. I was such a beee-tch back then. lol.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?p=83498#post83498



Thanks for your vote even though it appears that Mother Jefferson will win-lol Atleast ONE other person feels the sae way I do

I am aware of the fact that Lionel was seen first on AITF and had more screen time on that show. Nevertheless, the spin-off is called "The Jeffersons", not "The Lionel Show". It's not like this series is a movie adaptation of an AITF novel and they changed it too much or something. This was a totally new show with lots of characters besides good old Lionel.

I am aware of the fact that Lionel was seen first on AITF and had more screen time on that show. Nevertheless, the spin-off is called "The Jeffersons", not "The Lionel Show". It's not like this series is a movie adaptation of an AITF novel and they changed it too much or something. This was a totally new show with lots of characters besides good old Lionel.


She must have gotten a lot of fan mail for the producers to make her a co-star. I will have to research why such the large role for zara cully

Solomon, your anti-Mother Jefferson is getting stale now. Give it a rest. We all know you hate her, but stop making 1,000 threads as to why you hate her. Most of us agree we like her, you asked a question, we answered it. You shouldn't expect everyone to have the same opinion as you. I think the reason why you created this poll was to get at least one person to hate Mother Jefferson like you, so you got it! But Mother J clearly wins this poll. I don't care if she was 80 or 100 years old! She was funny, and did the job she was suppose to do until she died. Tell me some actors or actresses less than half her age who could deliver like she could! You need to give some people their props instead of bashing them because the are too "old" for you!

End of discussion!

Solomon, your anti-Mother Jefferson is getting stale now. Give it a rest. We all know you hate her, but stop making 1,000 threads as to why you hate her. Most of us agree we like her, you asked a question, we answered it. You shouldn't expect everyone to have the same opinion as you. I think the reason why you created this poll was to get at least one person to hate Mother Jefferson like you, so you got it! But Mother J clearly wins this poll. I don't care if she was 80 or 100 years old! She was funny, and did the job she was suppose to do until she died. Tell me some actors or actresses less than half her age who could deliver like she could! You need to give some people their props instead of bashing them because the are too "old" for you!

End of discussion!



What got stale was her insulting louise

Solomon, your anti-Mother Jefferson is getting stale now. Give it a rest. We all know you hate her, but stop making 1,000 threads as to why you hate her. Most of us agree we like her, you asked a question, we answered it. You shouldn't expect everyone to have the same opinion as you. I think the reason why you created this poll was to get at least one person to hate Mother Jefferson like you, so you got it! But Mother J clearly wins this poll. I don't care if she was 80 or 100 years old! She was funny, and did the job she was suppose to do until she died. Tell me some actors or actresses less than half her age who could deliver like she could! You need to give some people their props instead of bashing them because the are too "old" for you!

End of discussion!
You don't decide when it's the end of a discussion. You only get to decide if you're done with the discussion. I haven't seen many threads by Solomon about hating Mother Jefferson.

No offense, but I've seen you get upset on other boards if someone criticizes someone you like.

You don't decide when it's the end of a discussion. You only get to decide if you're done with the discussion. I haven't seen many threads by Solomon about hating Mother Jefferson.

No offense, but I've seen you get upset on other boards if someone criticizes someone you like.



Janice he was imitating me when he said "End of Discussion" because that's what I say in some debates when I say-"The End"-lol

You don't decide when it's the end of a discussion. You only get to decide if you're done with the discussion. I haven't seen many threads by Solomon about hating Mother Jefferson.

No offense, but I've seen you get upset on other boards if someone criticizes someone you like.

Ok, that's cool. It's his opinion, he doesn't have to like Mother J.

Janice he was imitating me when he said "End of Discussion" because that's what I say in some debates when I say-"The End"-lol
Oh, sorry KOOL. :)

Oh, sorry KOOL. :)

Wow, that Wan66 was such a bitch!!!

;)

Wow, that Wan66 was such a bitch!!!

;)
:lol:

I'll say. Only my third post, and I was biting off heads.

:lol:

I'll say. Only my third post, and I was biting off heads.
Us bitches have to stick together.:D

I liked Mother Jefferson but I would have liked to see more of Lionel in the show. I think he would have played a better role had they used him more. But yes Mother Jefferson was hilarious but at the same time she couldve been a tad nicer to Louise. So I guess you can say I liked both characters but wanted to see more of Lionel in the eps.