View Full Version : Is this the Real reason a lot of fans don't like the 2nd Lionel?
TVFactFan 08-25-2006, 12:51 AM "TRYING TOO HARD TO BE COOL?
When the original Lionel was naturally cool?
What I'm trying to say is the 2nd Lionel was a DORK-lol
PrettyinPink55 08-25-2006, 01:42 AM I liked the first Lionel WAYYYY better! But that's how it always works for me, I guess. I mean, in Bewitched, I preferred the First Darren to the second, and in The Fresh Prince, the First Vivian to the second, etc. I guess it's hard to see somebody else playing that character that you've grown attatched to. But yeah, the second Lionel wasn't as good as the first one.
Mr. Television 08-25-2006, 02:36 AM I liked the first Lionel WAYYYY better! But that's how it always works for me, I guess. I mean, in Bewitched, I preferred the First Darren to the second, and in The Fresh Prince, the First Vivian to the second, etc. I guess it's hard to see somebody else playing that character that you've grown attatched to. But yeah, the second Lionel wasn't as good as the first one.
Replacements generally suck. I think the only replacement that I can think of that I liked was the second Marilyn Munster.
Wawwie 08-25-2006, 04:46 AM "TRYING TOO HARD TO BE COOL?
When the original Lionel was naturally cool?
What I'm trying to say is the 2nd Lionel was a DORK-lol
YES!!! Definitely! Second Lionel tried SO hard to be cool, which was actually lame so it made him look like more of a doofis. Original Lionel didn't have to try at all. He was naturally cool like you said. Also, second Lionel could not act.
Chain Gang Member 08-25-2006, 11:11 AM Replacements generally suck. I think the only replacement that I can think of that I liked was the second Marilyn Munster.
I agree
I didn't like Lionel period. I know that The Jeffersons was rooted in his initial appearances on All In The Family, but I would have preferred him not being there at all. The first Lionel was militant and arrogant, the second one was nerdy and a pushover. The show flowed better when he wasn't on at all.
TVFactFan 08-25-2006, 01:40 PM I didn't like Lionel period. I know that The Jeffersons was rooted in his initial appearances on All In The Family, but I would have preferred him not being there at all. The first Lionel was militant and arrogant, the second one was nerdy and a pushover. The show flowed better when he wasn't on at all.
Did it also flow better when Mother Jefferson wasn't there?
Mrs. Periwinkle 08-26-2006, 01:06 AM Yes, I agree. I only watch the episodes with the original Lionel in them. Like you said, the second Lionel tried acting cool, but couldn't pull it off. And, on top of everything else, Mike was WAY better looking than Damon.
Brian Damage 08-26-2006, 01:58 PM Lionel #1 was the epitomy of cool. Lionel # 2 was a bit of a dork, but he also wasn't very funny.
PrettyinPink55 08-26-2006, 08:58 PM There was also something about him (second Lionel) I didn't like, I don't know what it was, just something about him. I think it was that he was so different from the first Lionel, and if they were doing a replacement, at least try to get someone similar?
treky 08-26-2006, 10:01 PM why'd Mike Evans leave the show temporarily, anyway?
PrettyinPink55 08-26-2006, 10:03 PM I was going to ask why too.
TVFactFan 08-26-2006, 10:04 PM why'd Mike Evans leave the show temporarily, anyway?
He wasn't happy that his role on the show DECREASED and that the Role of Zara Cully INCREASED
treky 08-26-2006, 10:06 PM but, why'd he decide to come back?
TVFactFan 08-26-2006, 10:08 PM but, why'd he decide to come back?
Because during the summer of 1979, he ran into Sherman Hemsley and they were talking about the old days and then Sherman asked him did he want to come back and he said yeah and that's when he was added back to the show at the start of the 1979-80 season
Did it also flow better when Mother Jefferson wasn't there?
I liked Mother Jefferson. The episode where she pretended to fall was a trip- pun intended. Lionel had no funny moments at all. Mother Jefferson helped the show quite a bit in my opinion.
TVFactFan 08-26-2006, 11:46 PM I liked Mother Jefferson. The episode where she pretended to fall was a trip- pun intended. Lionel had no funny moments at all. Mother Jefferson helped the show quite a bit in my opinion.
For the last time, Lionel wasn';t funny because they EXPANDED the role of Zara Cully. How can you be funny without any speaking PARTS?
For the last time, Lionel wasn';t funny because they EXPANDED the role of Zara Cully. How can you be funny without any speaking PARTS?
That's my opinion and I stand by it. :wave:
TVFactFan 08-27-2006, 12:07 AM That's my opinion and I stand by it. :wave:
Well in that case I don't think the Coffee Table in the Jeffersons Living room was funny either
Well in that case I don't think the Coffee Table in the Jeffersons Living room was funny either
Good comparison :rolleyes: Lionel had about as much acting talent as that coffee table.
TVFactFan 08-27-2006, 12:14 AM Good comparison :rolleyes: Lionel had about as much acting talent as that coffee table.
You must never have seen Allin the Family during 1971-75 era
"TRYING TOO HARD TO BE COOL?
When the original Lionel was naturally cool?
What I'm trying to say is the 2nd Lionel was a DORK-lol
Exactly the 1st Lionel the coolness was there naturally with the 2nd one it was forced.
snl 70s show fan 09-04-2006, 03:28 AM ive had a nickname for damon evans ever since i was a kid . i call him the icky lionel
My mother just said that the 2nd Lionel was a nerd and that she likes the 1st Lionel better.-LOL.
pscisme 11-29-2006, 12:59 PM Well in that case I don't think the Coffee Table in the Jeffersons Living room was funny either
You may be right about this-but are you talking about the ORIGINAL coffee table or the REPLACEMENT?:happyface
TVFactFan 11-29-2006, 05:46 PM You may be right about this-but are you talking about the ORIGINAL coffee table or the REPLACEMENT?:happyface
The second Coffee Table was a lot better-lol
hcollinsmith72 12-03-2006, 02:53 AM I agree, the first was naturally cool.. and funny.. but the 2nd lionel just didnt cut it
catlover79 09-21-2009, 10:40 PM Mike Evans WAS Lionel - period. Plus he WAS hot. :D
catlover79 09-28-2009, 11:15 PM I did get a kick out of Damon's Lionel asking Louise to sing carols during the Christmas episode - "Who else are we going to get to sing bass?" :rofl:
Pitooey 09-28-2009, 11:48 PM Mike Evans WAS Lionel - period. Plus he WAS hot. :D
I agree He was HOT! :thumbsup: I hope the actor who played him Rests in peace.
catlover79 09-29-2009, 08:48 AM I agree He was HOT! :thumbsup: I hope the actor who played him Rests in peace.
Me too. Another shout out to Damon Evans - he was hilarious in the episode where Lionel takes over the dry cleaning business. :lol:
Scoobiedoo30 09-30-2009, 12:35 AM I Like The Second Lionel
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