I seem to be the only one that ever noticed but this show is extremely racist towards white people. I was a little guy when the show was on and so I watched it and liked it but when I got older I looked back and thought about how ridiculously racist this show was. EVERY bad person was WHITE. Seriously...lol....for example, and this is off the top of my head without having seen the show in years...

-Lt Murtaw, possibly the biggest moron ever, WHITE

-the hustler in the pool hall who's all mean and his thug friends, WHITE

-Mom's bakery and the illegal casino, the bakery owner mom and ALL the casino workers and the whole thing, WHITE

-Rodney, mean and stupid, WHITE

-Laura's rival, the extreme bitch and slut in school, WHITE

-the guys who spray sleeping gas into the Winslow's house when fat Karl is napping and then they rob him, WHITE

-the guy who tries to shoot fat Karl in the hospital after he gets shot in the ass, WHITE

-at the male strip club, Clubb Buff, suggesting whites are promiscuous, ALL WHITE

-the crazy scientist dude that framed Urkel, WHITE

-I forget the plot but remember the one where, at the end, there is a drive for people to turn their guns in in exchange for a toy or something, guess who the first (and only one we see) to turn his gun in was? yep WHITE

-the bank robber dressed as Abraham Lincoln who held Urkel and company hostage, take a wild guess.....WHITE

-on the stakeout when WHITE moron Lt Murtaw and fat Karl are waiting for the criminals to receive their shipment or whatever, the criminals were....WHITE

-the guys in the locker who were mean to eddie cause he got no play....WHITE


there is probably much more but I can't remember as it's been years, however I think I gave quite a few strong examples. And don't try and tell me that there were an equal amount of bad blacks, in fact there was very little, almost every negative person in this show was white...on a black sitcom that takes place in downtown Chicago. LOL. And don't point out Waldo as being equal. That's ONE character. I just named numerous plots/characters that centered around bad/immoral/ugly/mean/etc whites.


can anybody else think of any more times in the series where the racist producers of this filth cast whites in a negative light?

I agree with that to an extent. I was entertained by the show though.

Hmmm, very interesting points. I haven't seen enough of this show myself to make that determination, but the stuff you mentioned is eye opening.

I never thought it was racist and I'm white. I just thought it was funny. :lol:

I don't think that it is racist. It is one of my favorite shows. I am white. There is one episode where Eddie is driving and a cop pulls him over because he is a white neighborhood. That is racist against blacks.

I don't think that it is racist. It is one of my favorite shows. I am white. There is one episode where Eddie is driving and a cop pulls him over because he is a white neighborhood. That is racist against blacks.
Not really. It is portraying whites as being racist against blacks.
But this thread may cause a fight.
I agree with the creator of this thread to an EXTENT, but I liked the show a lot as I found it entertaining.

ROFL! Thanks classicshowgurl, you helped further my point as Wawwie stated....oh so Eddie is driving in a "white" neighborhood eh? How odd the creators of this show decided on having him get pulled over by racist WHITE cops....what surprise!

I thought of something else....remember when the winslow's go to France? LOL the ONLY people in France, in Family Matters land, are Black! HAHAHAHA. Yep no whites or any other ethnicity live in France, non at all!

there won't be any fight because this can't be argued, the proof is in the pudding...and to be fair and so nobobdy else does it first, I'll point out the negative black people that I can think of off the top of my head.

-Waldo is stupid

-I can't remember his name but Eddie's friend who talks with a lisp is obnoxious

-the cousin of eddie is a thug, when they steal the car, but this had to be a black person because there wouldn't be any realistic way to have eddie's white cousin visit. And keep in mind they had to have the ****** Lt Murtaw in that show to offset the black thug, Lt Murtaw and his stupid comments...


that's about all I can think of, see any discrepancy there? LOL. This show couldn't be more racist.

I thought of another one....

-the episode where karl was undercover, the house was dirty, etc, and eddie was doing lousy in a class and told the teacher he had family problems, the teacher was weak, naive, gullible, and not too bright....WHITE

ROFL! Thanks classicshowgurl, you helped further my point as Wawwie stated....oh so Eddie is driving in a "white" neighborhood eh? How odd the creators of this show decided on having him get pulled over by racist WHITE cops....what surprise!

I thought of something else....remember when the winslow's go to France? LOL the ONLY people in France, in Family Matters land, are Black! HAHAHAHA. Yep no whites or any other ethnicity live in France, non at all!

there won't be any fight because this can't be argued, the proof is in the pudding...and to be fair and so nobobdy else does it first, I'll point out the negative black people that I can think of off the top of my head.

-Waldo is stupid

-I can't remember his name but Eddie's friend who talks with a lisp is obnoxious

-the cousin of eddie is a thug, when they steal the car, but this had to be a black person because there wouldn't be any realistic way to have eddie's white cousin visit. And keep in mind they had to have the ****** Lt Murtaw in that show to offset the black thug, Lt Murtaw and his stupid comments...


that's about all I can think of, see any discrepancy there? LOL. This show couldn't be more racist.

:rolleyes: Not ANOTHER white person bitching about racism towards whites, esp. a damn T.V show.:lol: . I find this funny as hell considering that majority of FM's writers were WHITE!!!!!

I guess I can call that annoying show Friends racist because it's NYC and there are no BLACKS. Can I call Facts of Life, Punky Brewster, and Small Wonder racist because there is only ONE black best friend?:lol: :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: Not ANOTHER white person bitching about racism towards whites, esp. a damn T.V show.:lol: . I find this funny as hell considering that majority of FM's writers were WHITE!!!!!

I guess I can call that annoying show Friends racist because it's NYC and there are no BLACKS. Can I call Facts of Life, Punky Brewster, and Small Wonder racist because there is only ONE black best friend?:lol: :rolleyes:


:yeahthat

I have to agree with you on this. Don't get me started on how just about all the TV shows back in the 50' that had a black person appear in it was racist against blacks.

BTW Family Matter had a lot of bad black people in it also. So SiberianKiss You should dig deeper and do more homework.

ROFL! Thanks classicshowgurl, you helped further my point as Wawwie stated....oh so Eddie is driving in a "white" neighborhood eh? How odd the creators of this show decided on having him get pulled over by racist WHITE cops....what surprise!

I thought of something else....remember when the winslow's go to France? LOL the ONLY people in France, in Family Matters land, are Black! HAHAHAHA. Yep no whites or any other ethnicity live in France, non at all!

there won't be any fight because this can't be argued, the proof is in the pudding...and to be fair and so nobobdy else does it first, I'll point out the negative black people that I can think of off the top of my head.

-Waldo is stupid

-I can't remember his name but Eddie's friend who talks with a lisp is obnoxious

-the cousin of eddie is a thug, when they steal the car, but this had to be a black person because there wouldn't be any realistic way to have eddie's white cousin visit. And keep in mind they had to have the ****** Lt Murtaw in that show to offset the black thug, Lt Murtaw and his stupid comments...


that's about all I can think of, see any discrepancy there? LOL. This show couldn't be more racist.

You must not have a life to point all of this crap out. Why does a thug have to be black? I guess Jimmy Hoffa and the Gottis don't count huh? Turn off the T.V and read a book.:rolleyes:

I think you're just grasping at straws . There was nothing racist about this show. The Winslows were a family that appealed to every race.

:yeahthat

I have to agree with you on this. Don't get me started on how just about all the TV shows back in the 50' that had a black person appear in it was racist against blacks.

BTW Family Matter had a lot of bad black people in it also. So SiberianKiss You should dig deeper and do more homework.

Thank you, this poster MUST be under 17....

I could write a BOOK on all the shows that had negative African-Americans. I Love Lucy had ZERO blacks, I don't hear this kid complaining about it. Siberian sounds nutty:crazy: . My god, it's so hilarious that now WHITES are bitching about racism. :lol: :confused:

Next thing you'll know this poster will bitch about The Cosby Show(a upper class BLACK family) and A Different World(for being a black college)and Martin(for showing Shawn, the dumb white guy).

haha you morons....why are you bringing up other television programs? What do they have to do with Family Matters being racist towards White people? By bringing up these other shows that may or may not be racist, all you're implying is that it's okay for FM to be racist because those shows are. Try and stay on subject. As for a show like Friends, it was a white sitcom, it didn't have any people of color because it was about 7 white folks or whatever, it's not like FM where when there was somebody negative (stupid, criminal, etc) they had a black person on the show. That would be what FM does towards whites. Nevermind that though, those shows have nothing to do with FM. Your comment suggest that you think it's okay for FM to be racist because of other shows in the past. I never once said there wasn't racism towards blacks in television.


hey think pink you stupid little girl, what was 1985 your birth year? And you're writing about age? LOL. Your comment...

Why does a thug have to be black?

way to miss the entire point of what I'm trying to say! I've used many different examples, not just one you fool. No thugs don't need to be black, that is one part of a whole group. More of your drivel...

I find this funny as hell considering that majority of FM's writers were WHITE!!!!!

yeah that's great stupid, too bad the writers have NOTHING to do with casting.

moving along

I could write a BOOK on all the shows that had negative African-Americans. I Love Lucy had ZERO blacks, I don't hear this kid complaining about it. Siberian sounds nutty . My god, it's so hilarious that now WHITES are bitching about racism.

You're pathetic, DID I EVER SAY THERE WASN'T ANY RACISM TOWARDS BLACKS IN TELEVISION???? NO! Like I said before, all you're implying is that previous racism makes it okay for FM to turn the tables. Dumb ASS!


Brieannas21 your comment...

BTW Family Matter had a lot of bad black people in it also

Oh really? I think I've made a compelling argument, if you're so sure about this, I challenge you to prove me wrong.

I think you're just grasping at straws . Their was nothing racist about this show. The Winslows were a family that appealed to every race.


oh? That's odd, how come there were never any Asian, Middle Eastern, Native American, etc on the show? Why were all the immoral, stupid, criminal, and mean people on the show WHITE?

answer me those questions and your post might have some merit.

I thought of another one....

-the episode where karl was undercover, the house was dirty, etc, and eddie was doing lousy in a class and told the teacher he had family problems, the teacher was weak, naive, gullible, and not too bright....WHITE
I remember that episode. The teacher was portrayed as being extremely dopey. That woman is on That 70s Show and she was also on Friends.

Brieannas21 your comment...

BTW Family Matter had a lot of bad black people in it also

Oh really? I think I've made a compelling argument, if you're so sure about this, I challenge you to prove me wrong.

Oh Really? Well....

How about O.G.D

The girl gang who picked on 3J

The girl who stole Laura's jacket and then turned around and pointed a gun at Laura and threaten shoot her

How about the gang that beat up Eddie and then turned around and trashed "Rachel's Place."

How about Harriets and Rachels dead beat dad.

Do you need any more examples?????????

If I recall correctly the dead beat dad came back to reconcile, and of course he's gonna be black! It's their DAD

It's a black sitcom, of course the characters are supposed to be black, why is it the only time any white people are on that show is a negative potrayal? I gave a few examples of negative blacks and you did too....by the way I still have a much larger list than yours...kinda odd isn't it? That a black sitcom would have a lot more negative whites

and is it true that France only has black people? Because in the world of Family Matters....this is a fact :lol:

oh? That's odd, how come there were never any Asian, Middle Eastern, Native American, etc on the show? Why were all the immoral, stupid, criminal, and mean people on the show WHITE?

answer me those questions and your post might have some merit.
Maybe people would take you seriously if you didn't call them Stupid and Morans.

Frankly it doesn't bother me. People who let these things bother them have thin skin anyhow. I watch a sitcom because it's funny and I want to spend a half hour with these people. I don't pay attention to the race of the characters. I watch all kinds of shows. I've seen tv shows were it was the opposite , of course occording to you that doesn't matter. And for the record I don't consider all those shows racist either.

I remember that episode. The teacher was portrayed as being extremely dopey. That woman is on That 70s Show and she was also on Friends.


yes absolutely correct but according to these fools, it's okay for FM to be racist because there have been racist televison shows towards blacks too. That makes a lot of sense there... :rolleyes:

of course occording to you that doesn't matter

and when did I say it didn't matter? learn to read.

and when I am personally attacked/insulted, I will come back with the same, I try and stay on topic and leave the personal stuff out....

If I recall correctly the dead beat dad came back to reconcile, and of course he's gonna be black! It's their DAD

It's a black sitcom, of course the characters are supposed to be black, why is it the only time any white people are on that show is a negative potrayal? I gave a few examples of negative blacks and you did too....by the way I still have a much larger list than yours...kinda odd isn't it? That a black sitcom would have a lot more negative whites

and is it true that France only has black people? Because in the world of Family Matters....this is a fact :lol:


You should check TV History before you make thread like this. Back in the day on TV and Film Blacks were shown in a negative light. And your whole thing about FM being racist isn't proven. And you wanted examples, I gave them to you.

of course occording to you that doesn't matter

and when did I say it didn't matter? learn to read.

and when I am personally attacked/insulted, I will come back with the same, I try and stay on topic and leave the personal stuff out....
sure you are. :rofl:

yo Brienan can you read????

Back in the day on TV and Film Blacks were shown in a negative light


WHEN DID I SAY THERE WASN'T RACISM TOWARDS BLACKS ON TELEVSION!?

I've asked a few times and I have yet to receive an answer. You know why? Because I never once said that...

I gave many more examples than you did....my point has been proven, others agree...

sure you are. :rofl:


what you just wrote makes absolutely no sense....sure I am what? try to be coherent

what you just wrote makes absolutely no sense....sure I am what? try to be coherent
I try and stay on topic and leave the personal stuff out....


:rofl:

you also forgot to quote the part about me saying I'll come back with something if I'm insulted/attacked personally.

nice try.


lemme ask you fools who keep bringing up this "well there's racism towards blacks on televison too"

I never once said there wasn't racism towards blacks on TV. Not once, my point was/is that Family Matters is racist towards Whites. Your response is..."No it's not! TV is racist towards blacks too!!!"

Do you see how idiotic that is? You're throwing out random statements that nobody here ever said and when you think about it, you're implying that it's okay for FM to be racist against Whites because there is racism towards Blacks in other programs. Way to go guys! :lol:

yo Brienan can you read????

Back in the day on TV and Film Blacks were shown in a negative light


WHEN DID I SAY THERE WASN'T RACISM TOWARDS BLACKS ON TELEVSION!?

I've asked a few times and I have yet to receive an answer. You know why? Because I never once said that...

I gave many more examples than you did....my point has been proven, others agree...

This is my last post of this thread because I have no time to argue with an ignorant person. You asked for examples of black people shown in a negative light and I gave you examples and the fact that the only come back you have for me is "I gave many more examples than you did" shows how immature you are, AND you don't want to face the fact that I have proven you wrong. Like I said before, look back into history before you make idiotic post

And I didn't see anyone agree with you so far, So you must see some post that I don't see.

learn to read child

see Wawwie's posts and Brian Damage

why would anyone take you seriously when you don't even bother reading what everyone has to say!? I guess you only see what is convenient for you...sad.

you gave examples of negative blacks on FM yet the majority of negative people on this television show are WHITE

point proven, you didn't prove me wrong at all. I even named a few instances where there was a negative protrayal of a black person on the show....you didn't do much, gave a few examples, good job....yet the majority of negative peope on this show are WHITE

I won this one

see Wawwie's posts and Brian Damage


I do think that most of the white characters on Family Matters could have been written better as they were portrayed in a negative light.

It is possible to have an intelligent discussion/debate without name calling and dissing other people!

I see this thread being locked in the future...

It is possible to have an intelligent discussion/debate without name calling and dissing other people!

I see this thread being locked in the future...
That is also true.
I said hours ago that this thread would cause a fight.

I hope the poster who created this thread never watches a EPISODE of the Jeffersons-LOL

I hope the poster who created this thread never watches a EPISODE of the Jeffersons-LOL

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I hope the poster who created this thread never watches a EPISODE of the Jeffersons-LOL
See and that never bothered me. Not even when George would use the word Honky. :lol:

haha you morons....why are you bringing up other television programs? What do they have to do with Family Matters being racist towards White people? By bringing up these other shows that may or may not be racist, all you're implying is that it's okay for FM to be racist because those shows are. Try and stay on subject. As for a show like Friends, it was a white sitcom, it didn't have any people of color because it was about 7 white folks or whatever, it's not like FM where when there was somebody negative (stupid, criminal, etc) they had a black person on the show. That would be what FM does towards whites. Nevermind that though, those shows have nothing to do with FM. Your comment suggest that you think it's okay for FM to be racist because of other shows in the past. I never once said there wasn't racism towards blacks in television.


hey think pink you stupid little girl, what was 1985 your birth year? And you're writing about age? LOL. Your comment...

Why does a thug have to be black?

way to miss the entire point of what I'm trying to say! I've used many different examples, not just one you fool. No thugs don't need to be black, that is one part of a whole group. More of your drivel...

I find this funny as hell considering that majority of FM's writers were WHITE!!!!!

yeah that's great stupid, too bad the writers have NOTHING to do with casting.

moving along

I could write a BOOK on all the shows that had negative African-Americans. I Love Lucy had ZERO blacks, I don't hear this kid complaining about it. Siberian sounds nutty . My god, it's so hilarious that now WHITES are bitching about racism.

You're pathetic, DID I EVER SAY THERE WASN'T ANY RACISM TOWARDS BLACKS IN TELEVISION???? NO! Like I said before, all you're implying is that previous racism makes it okay for FM to turn the tables. Dumb ASS!


Brieannas21 your comment...

BTW Family Matter had a lot of bad black people in it also

Oh really? I think I've made a compelling argument, if you're so sure about this, I challenge you to prove me wrong.


SIMMER DOWN, IF YOU CAN'T HAVE A DISCUSSION WITHOUT THE NAME CALLING, THEN TAKE YOUR ASS TO THE MTV BOARDS OR SOMETHING!!!:rolleyes:

You are getting bent out of shape over a damn t.v show!!! How stupid does THAT sounds?:rolleyes:

BTW: 1985, the year I started kindergarten and the year I met my best friend, get it right!:lol: :crazy:

yo Brienan can you read????

Back in the day on TV and Film Blacks were shown in a negative light


WHEN DID I SAY THERE WASN'T RACISM TOWARDS BLACKS ON TELEVSION!?

I've asked a few times and I have yet to receive an answer. You know why? Because I never once said that...

I gave many more examples than you did....my point has been proven, others agree...

Others agree? Who? You and the voices in your head?:crazy: :lol: Seriously dude, you must be uneducated no one with an eighth grade education would get THIS bent out of shape over something THIS stupid.

And when did I say it was okay for FM to be racist... try t-o -u-n-d-e-r-s-t-a-n-d... The writers and CASTING were mostly white........:rolleyes:

See and that never bothered me. Not even when George would use the word Honky. :lol:
I sometimes to this day use that word (Honkey); it was what I grew up learning and using.

I think this show being "racist" (which I don't think it is) is no more racist than any other show that only shows just "whites"...I just think the tables are finally turned for the minorities to be shown on t.v.; something we have been denied for many years. What I think the title of this thread should be is what we discussed on Good Times forum, how the "white" people are portrayed as being "stupid" "ignorant" "dumb" etc.

I sometimes to this day use that word (Honkey); it was what I grew up learning and using.

I think this show being "racist" (which I don't think it is) is no more racist than any other show that only shows just "whites"...I just think the tables are finally turned for the minorities to be shown on t.v.; something we have been denied for many years. What I think the title of this thread should be is what we discussed on Good Times forum, how the "white" people are portrayed as being "stupid" "ignorant" "dumb" etc.

Oh yeah, Good Times even portrayed rich/middle class blacks as snobs. Good Times took a beating to all groups. But FM didn't, they took a stab at every race like Larenz Tate's character spiking Urkel's punch. :lol: Crap, back then I was terrified for Steve but now that episode is funny as hell!:lol:

Well, my Ethnicity is soo mixed its not funny, but i never thought of it racist maybe a little predjudice,i think on white sitcoms they never make fun of blacks. maybe F.M wanted to portray they didnt need white people to have a good tv show

Well, my Ethnicity is soo mixed its not funny, but i never thought of it racist maybe a little predjudice,i think on white sitcoms they never make fun of blacks. maybe F.M wanted to portray they didnt need white people to have a good tv show

Like you my ethnicity is mixed,( blk father and white mother). I never thought of FM as racist, all I thought as damn this show is corny as hell. This show is so corny, that's all I see is another stupid sappy cornball fest brought to you by the masters of corny Miller and Boyett.

The Cosby Show proved that they didn't whites to have a good show but yet there was a constant parade of whites up until they got 'street'.

MODERN "white" shows never made fun of blacks what they usually do is throw in the token black(Facts of Life, that's my show!!!!, Punky Brewster, Saved by the Bell, etc) or not show any at all or my personal fave:rolleyes: the special episode where the token black discovers that they are indeed...black.

Like you my ethnicity is mixed,( blk father and white mother). I never thought of FM as racist, all I thought as damn this show is corny as hell. This show is so corny, that's all I see is another stupid sappy cornball fest brought to you by the masters of corny Miller and Boyett.

The Cosby Show proved that they didn't whites to have a good show but yet there was a constant parade of whites up until they got 'street'.

MODERN "white" shows never made fun of blacks what they usually do is throw in the token black(Facts of Life, that's my show!!!!, Punky Brewster, Saved by the Bell, etc) or not show any at all or my personal fave:rolleyes: the special episode where the token black discovers that they are indeed...black.
:lol: i get ya i use to watch it all the time but as i got older it did seem corny.

The thing is that many black people were portraited negatively too, while many white characters were portraited positively or neutrally. It's just so much easier to remember the "bad" white people, isn't it?

*My 600th post!*

Ok, there is white people that is mean in the show, yes, but I have never thought about it because it's just colors!!!! That does not change how the people are inside. Humans are humans no matter what they look like.

i kinda agree

They just hate people because of their attitudes. And the people hated being all white was just a coincidence. I know there were several blacks hated too. Like Steve, he got on everyones nerves, which was the reason for the show being hilarious.

I never saw the show so I can't comment specifically but there have been movies and tv shows that have portrated black guys as bad and/or criminal so maybe the Family Matters producer were just trying to say "tit for tat". LOL!!

:rolleyes: Not ANOTHER white person bitching about racism towards whites, esp. a damn T.V show.:lol: . I find this funny as hell considering that majority of FM's writers were WHITE!!!!!

I guess I can call that annoying show Friends racist because it's NYC and there are no BLACKS. Can I call Facts of Life, Punky Brewster, and Small Wonder racist because there is only ONE black best friend?:lol: :rolleyes:
lol - I'm white but have to agree with you there - it always bugged me that you never saw a black person on the show (even in Central Perk - I was always like "What, blacks don't like coffee??"), but in their (slight) defense, they did add the character near the end of the series where she was dating both Ross and Joey. I had actually really hoped they would have kept her on and had her permanently hookup with one of them.

One could say the same for the Cosby Show - seemed anytime there was a white neighhbour, they were some kind of whiney jerk. :lol:

Never bothered me, hell, the number of shows in history that showed blacks as the household staff only outnumber everything.

Urkel offends me to the very end and I will remember it to my grave. Seriously, "Did I do that?". THE BASTARD KNOWS DAMN WELL HE DID. And we whites(I am one) do it all the time, And he comes in and claims he does so as well!? How DARE he!

You know someone is pulling for straws if they're saying "Family Matters" one of the most cheesiest, feel good sitcom show on television is "racist". Seriously, Family Matters?! Any black family show has to be accused of racism.

oh? That's odd, how come there were never any Asian, Middle Eastern, Native American, etc on the show? Why were all the immoral, stupid, criminal, and mean people on the show WHITE?

answer me those questions and your post might have some merit.

The jr. high school/high school principle was Asian, one of Carl's friends that played poker with him was Indian (or possible Middle Eastern) and give me a break. Native Americans are hardly in the media, and even if they were, you wouldn't know (unless its brought up) because they can pass for anything.

ROFL! Thanks classicshowgurl, you helped further my point as Wawwie stated....oh so Eddie is driving in a "white" neighborhood eh? How odd the creators of this show decided on having him get pulled over by racist WHITE cops....what surprise!

DUH! Racial profiling. That happens in real life, sorry to bring you to reality. I know you rather like to believe these things don't happen anymore. :crazy:

Well, Lt. Murtaugh was a buffoon. But I did get a kick out of all the times he'd hit on the completely not into him Rachel and she'd shoot him down. :lol:

Maybe it's just more noticeable when the negative white people appeared on the show. I can think of a lot of negative charachters who were black.

Bull the school bully

Buddy Goodrich

Willie the school bully

The dragons

Andre the school bully

Cousin Clarence AKA easy C

Andre the school bully

Steve's cousin OGD

The majority of the gang members including the leader of the piranhas from the episode Karate Kids

Toni from the gun episode

At the end of the day, who doesn't have flaws regardless of their skin color?

God bless you always!!!

Holly