View Full Version : How to befriend someone during a vulnerable time?
swedeace 07-17-2006, 10:20 PM I need some advice on something I don't want to "screw up" before anything goes further.
I started talking with a guy I know through someone else, and I would like to become his friend. I would like to get to know him more. He sounds interesting, and he has some of the same interests I do (and vice-versa with me).
He is going through a rough time with a separation with his wife at the moment who fell in love with someone else. And he has two young kids to think about as well. I don't wanna screw this up. I know, that's irrational thinking and too much stress on me, but I want to learn how to relax a bit and let things flow more. I have a tendency to act clingy, and I don't want to scare off a potential "new friend" either.
How can I "be there for him" and "show him I want to be his friend" without sounding clingy, pushy, etc? I also don't want to give the impression I am placing any "moves" on him either at this vulnerable time in his life, yet I don't want him to forget about me. He told me a couple of times he "hopes to hear back" from me. How sincere.
As I mentioned, I know about him through someone else, so he is not a complete stranger to me. But any ideas or suggestions? Anyone in the same situation? Please do share. I am curious to read about them. Thanks. :wave:
Kazza 07-17-2006, 11:21 PM You should take a few things into consideration:
Are you willing to be his shoulder to cry?
Are you willing to put up with his baggage from the past relationship?
Is he just looking for someone to play second fiddle?
Is there a chance he's going to go back to his wife?
I read somewhere that when someone we know especially a 'friend'; we can't approach them as the 'come to me with all your problems' figure. I would wait for him to clear the situation with his wife first and every now and then say Hi or whatever but nothing more. If you have known him for a while now; it's more than likely he'll stay a friend anyways.
Courtnee 07-18-2006, 12:01 AM Just be there for him. Does he live close by you? If he does, maybe you could bake him a cake for him and his kids. or pie, everyone loves pie.
Or maybe you could just write him a letter telling him how you feel. That's how I make most of my friends. If there's someone who seems rad to me, I tell them "hey you seem cool, wanna hang out?" most of the time they say yes.
GOOD LUCK!
Kazza 07-18-2006, 12:05 AM Just be there for him. Does he live close by you? If he does, maybe you could bake him a cake for him and his kids. or pie, everyone loves pie.
Or maybe you could just write him a letter telling him how you feel. That's how I make most of my friends. If there's someone who seems rad to me, I tell them "hey you seem cool, wanna hang out?" most of the time they say yes.
GOOD LUCK!
She's not trying to make a friend; he's already one.
She also needs to think if she can get along with his children and how do they see her. You don't want to be a second mom to them or give them a wrong impression.
Writing a letter will make open and vulnerable to him; she needs to keep a distance because the guy (according to her) is still married.
Courtnee 07-18-2006, 12:25 AM She's not trying to make a friend; he's already one.
She also needs to think if she can get along with his children and how do they see her. You don't want to be a second mom to them or give them a wrong impression.
Writing a letter will make open and vulnerable to him; she needs to keep a distance because the guy (according to her) is still married.
I'm sorry, I thought I was replying to swedeace.
Kazza 07-18-2006, 12:26 AM I'm sorry, I thought I was replying to swedeace.
Yes and I was just adding my 2 cents to your reply.
Courtnee 07-18-2006, 12:28 AM Yes and I was just adding my 2 cents to your reply.
mmk then.
Sharop 07-18-2006, 10:47 AM She's not trying to make a friend; he's already one.
I interpreted the post in another way. I think swedeace is trying to get this guy as a friend.
I interpreted her post to mean that she knows this guy, but that he's not an actual friend of hers yet - that the two of them are more like acquaintances that get on well. And swedeace would like this guy to become her friend, rather than just be an acquaintance.
Unfortuntely, I'm in a similar situation to swedeace, so I'm not really sure what advice I can offer. There's a guy I want to have as a friend, too, but we don't know each other OVERLY well - and I can't figure out how I can get to be friends with this guy without seeming clingy and weird and freaky.
Swedeace, this guy sounds he might be interested in becoming friends with you, so maybe you could start out with some small socialising - going out to coffee, or something. Or maybe, if he has an email address, you could talk by email and get to know each other a bit more, and then arrange to socialise together.
Kazza 07-18-2006, 11:33 AM Ya'll are not seeing something here; the guy is still married. It's best for her to keep a low profile until his situation is cleared up.
What about if she starts getting closer to him and out of nowhere he's got a mid-life crisis and goes back to his wife?
Sharop 07-18-2006, 01:56 PM What about if she starts getting closer to him and out of nowhere he's got a mid-life crisis and goes back to his wife?
But even if he and his wife do get back together, how would that affect his friendship with swedeace? As far as I understand, she's not looking for a romantic relationship with this guy - she just wants him as a friend. I don't see how their friendship would be ruined if the the guy got back together with his wife.
dawsongirl 07-18-2006, 02:53 PM Maybe I'm a hussy, but it seems that this guy's wife left him for someone else, so even though they are still legally married, I wouldn't consider him still married. Bitch left him.
I used to be all pushy and clingy and like, if I didn't get a response right away, I'd be sending "Did you get my message?" type replies. But with my boyfriend, I just, don't. I guess because I know if I send him a message and he doesn't reply right away, I know for 100% he's not ignoring me, or playing me. I don't have to be clingy because I feel I don't have a reason to. Security I guess. Unfortunately that's the kind of thing that isn't instantaneous, but the more you get to know this guy, the more you may trust him, and that pushiness just kind of vanishes.
In the meantime, like Karen said, say hi or talk about your day a few times a week, but not everyday. Let him make the talk everyday move.
swedeace 07-22-2006, 06:09 PM Thank you all for your insight and your opinions. I appreciate it.
Yes, Sharop hit the nail on the head. I am beginning to know this guy, and we are in our initial stages of contact. We are not friends yet, but I would like to formulate a "how to" get closer to "become his friend."
I haven't heard much from him lately because of all that he's going through. I don't know if he's just been busy with the settlement of the separation (yes, he's going through with it) and with the kids and all or if he has kinda decided to take a step back. I sent an email saying, "Hope you are doing well since I know you are going through a rough time. I am here if you need to talk." That's been a week ago....since last Saturday. I haven't heard from him since. Maybe he is just so busy or taking it easy. I don't know, but I am hoping he will reply back.
So, I would like to have more opinions, if anyone else has anything to contribute. ;)
Sharop 07-22-2006, 06:14 PM I'd say, maybe wait for another week or so, and if he hasn't replied by then, maybe you could send him another email. It would probably be best not to seem too forward, but you probably know that already. Have you made it clear to him that you'd like to become friends? If he's aware that you'd like to become closer, then he might be more responsive.
Kazza 07-22-2006, 09:18 PM If he's aware that you'd like to become closer, then he might be more responsive.
Or completly back off until he deems ready. Just because she's ready doesn't mean that he is.
Like I said before, give him time and don't have any expectations.
I wouldn't get any closer until his wife is out of the picture and on paper.
Sharop 07-23-2006, 05:52 AM Or completly back off until he deems ready. Just because she's ready doesn't mean that he is.
That's true, it could go either way.
Why do you think if would be better to wait until his wife is completely out of the picture? Is it because once it's all over and done with he'll have more time to focus on other things and other people, thus have more time to work on building a friendship?
Kazza 07-23-2006, 10:52 AM That's true, it could go either way.
Why do you think if would be better to wait until his wife is completely out of the picture? Is it because once it's all over and done with he'll have more time to focus on other things and other people, thus have more time to work on building a friendship?
Yes and because people change their minds.
swedeace 07-26-2006, 09:50 PM Well, I haven't heard from him in three weeks. :(
Then again, I haven't really seen him online much either, so I have a feeling that he has been up to his neck with this whole separation thing. That, and he has mentioned he likes to spend a lot of his free time with his kids. Or, maybe he was a bit intimidated and doesn't feel the need to gather more friends in his life? Or....
Ack! Look at me....here my head is spinning with all sorts of possibilities, and it's making me take things personally. Such a shame! I really wanted to become his friend!!! :crying:
Or, how possible can it be that he can later write back when things get settled? He seemed like he wanted to get to know me (he said it himself), and he asked me questions and the like.... Grrrr.... I am sooo impatient!! :(
Sharop 07-27-2006, 07:22 AM Or, how possible can it be that he can later write back when things get settled? He seemed like he wanted to get to know me (he said it himself), and he asked me questions and the like.... Grrrr.... I am sooo impatient!! :(
I know how you feel.
Is there any other way you can contact him? Do you know his home address, for instance? Or his telephone number?
cmcb06 07-28-2006, 02:33 AM Kazza please chill k?
She is not looking to be romanticlly involved just a friend nothing wrong with that is there ?
Just be a friend, and if he lives close as some people have suggested bake a cake maybe or a pie for him. just be a friend.
Kazza 07-28-2006, 10:12 AM Well, I haven't heard from him in three weeks. :(
Then again, I haven't really seen him online much either, so I have a feeling that he has been up to his neck with this whole separation thing. That, and he has mentioned he likes to spend a lot of his free time with his kids. Or, maybe he was a bit intimidated and doesn't feel the need to gather more friends in his life? Or....
Ack! Look at me....here my head is spinning with all sorts of possibilities, and it's making me take things personally. Such a shame! I really wanted to become his friend!!! :crying:
Or, how possible can it be that he can later write back when things get settled? He seemed like he wanted to get to know me (he said it himself), and he asked me questions and the like.... Grrrr.... I am sooo impatient!! :(
Give him time. If he wants to befriend you, he'll come around when he's ready. It's better not to have an email than get one full of lame excuses.:D
swedeace 07-30-2006, 10:05 AM Give him time. If he wants to befriend you, he'll come around when he's ready. It's better not to have an email than get one full of lame excuses.:D
Yeah, I guess you're right about that. I just...well....hope he doesn't forget about me. Afterall, we have only sent each other a total of three messages. I am not a very patient person, so I end up biting my lips and twiddling my thumbs with people I really wanna befriend. *climbs up a wall*
Ah, heck....I'll go ahead and say it even if there's a good number of people out there who will probably think of the negative aspects of it but I really want some insight, too.
The only way I could keep in contact with this guy I wanna befriend is via MySpace *blush, blush*, so I created an account just to do so. I never mentioned about dating or friendship or anything. I just began writing him. Remember, I knew him somewhat through someone else I know, so he's not a complete stranger to me. I know his family values and the environment; otherwise, I would be more leary to contact him. But anyway.... He did add me to his group of "Friends" and even has me as one of his "Top 8." But....I haven't heard from him.
I don't wanna keep sending messages either, but....I wanna know - how long shall I wait before sending another one?
Kazza 07-30-2006, 10:19 AM I don't wanna keep sending messages either, but....I wanna know - how long shall I wait before sending another one?
I'm sorry if all you've gotten from my replies maybe a bit harsh.Sometimes we need the 'other side' of the coin to realize some things. At least on My Space you can check if the msg have been read or not. ;D
How many messages have you sent?You said it has been 3 weeks since his last reply? Have he logged in My Space recently ?I would wait on him to reply.
swedeace 08-10-2006, 08:11 AM I'm sorry if all you've gotten from my replies maybe a bit harsh.
Oh, no. I didn't think your message was harsh at all.
Sometimes we need the 'other side' of the coin to realize some things. At least on My Space you can check if the msg have been read or not. ;D
That's true, but then I get easily obsessed over depending on this too much. Then I start worrying/getting paranoid once I see "read" and get no reply. Then a million things start circling my head, like, "Did they send a reply, and was MySpace screwed up where I didn't get it?," "Did they just didn't have time to send me a reply?," "Did they forget about me?," and finally the worst one: "Did I do something to scare them away?" It drives me absolutely nuts to go round and round over these thoughts. Ugh.
How many messages have you sent?You said it has been 3 weeks since his last reply?
His last message was July 2nd, and I sent a reply while I was on vacation that week. Then about a week later when I returned from vacation, I sent a "Hope you're doing well since you are going through a lot" email with no reply either. But, he added me to his Friends list and to his top 8 list. I don't understand why no reply then. I start taking things personally, but it doesn't help when he has me as his top 8. I don't get it.
I also started writing to one of his Friends because he has interesting friends who are working at a photography studio and love PhotoShop (I do too!), and we were writing each other various times this past weekend. Then he requested an add to be in my Friends list, and I accepted. He's written several comments to me, but then he hasn't written me back a message either. *sigh* I'm starting to think that these stupid Friends requests somehow make people "stop" writing me or something. It's like a curse. :(
So, anyway, about the first guy.... when would be a feasible time to write him again? It's been about five weeks now.
Have he logged in My Space recently ?I would wait on him to reply.
I have been keeping an eye on this, and it seems everytime he logs into his MySpace, it's to add a new "Friend" or whenever he gets a "comment" from his friends. I'm sure that's because of those email notifications.
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