Those of you who have small trading collections and see things you want on other traders collection but you can;t get them because of your small collection, try this


Just start recording everything on television like Morning Talk shows, Soap Operas, Late Night Talk Shows on a Daily basis and you may see someone who missed a ep of one of those shows and may need a copy and that's how you can start expanding. Just record everthing that on cable or Network TV and Believe it will expand your collection.

The one downfall to this approach is that you may end up with a bunch of shows no one wants, including you. :)

well i dont know about taping stuff like that b/c 99% of it will be in the junk pile

WHAT I WOULD do is to look to see what your LOCAL UHF channels are airing
they often have shows that cost less to air, but are harder to find

some areas now have quincy, eight is enough, diffrent strokes, facts of life, kojak, flipper, etc etc etc

rarer shows that you could tape and make a set of

or shows like BERNIE MAC, WAYANS BROTHERS, NYPD BLUE, L.A. LAW, FALCON CREST, etc etc that are commonly syndicated but noone seems to have a set of yet!

youd have much better luck with those than a bunch of soap operas

Those of you who have small trading collections and see things you want on other traders collection but you can;t get them because of your small collection, try this


Just start recording everything on television like Morning Talk shows, Soap Operas, Late Night Talk Shows on a Daily basis and you may see someone who missed a ep of one of those shows and may need a copy and that's how you can start expanding. Just record everthing that on cable or Network TV and Believe it will expand your collection.


.... and don't forget about the ORIGINAL COMMERCIALS !!!

..... tell'em about the ORIGINAL COMMERCIALS, tell them !! ... tell them !!

well i dont know about taping stuff like that b/c 99% of it will be in the junk pile

WHAT I WOULD do is to look to see what your LOCAL UHF channels are airing
they often have shows that cost less to air, but are harder to find

some areas now have quincy, eight is enough, diffrent strokes, facts of life, kojak, flipper, etc etc etc

rarer shows that you could tape and make a set of

or shows like BERNIE MAC, WAYANS BROTHERS, NYPD BLUE, L.A. LAW, FALCON CREST, etc etc that are commonly syndicated but noone seems to have a set of yet!

youd have much better luck with those than a bunch of soap operas



Well it worked for me which is why I gave the suggestion-lol But yeah U can also try and record some tv shows on your local WB and UPN stations. But just one question, doesn;t recoring EVERYTHING mean what you said about seeing what u can record off local UHF channels??????

.... and don't forget about the ORIGINAL COMMERCIALS !!!

..... tell'em about the ORIGINAL COMMERCIALS, tell them !! ... tell them !!



I don;t think anyone is interested in original commercials from 2006, 1986 YES but defintely not 2006-lol

The one downfall to this approach is that you may end up with a bunch of shows no one wants, including you. :)


Not necessarily true, i can't count the number of times i seen posts saying-"Did anyone record Jay Leno last night? or I need the Today Show from 5/29/06. So not a bad approach at all

Not necessarily true, i can't count the number of times i seen posts saying-"Did anyone record Jay Leno last night? or I need the Today Show from 5/29/06. So not a bad approach at all


Great, so you have that one eps they want. What about the other 50 eps of the tonight show that you have but no one wants?

Not necessarily true, i can't count the number of times i seen posts saying-"Did anyone record Jay Leno last night? or I need the Today Show from 5/29/06. So not a bad approach at all

I didn't say you wouldn't get any hits - just that you're going to end up with lots of shows no one wants. If you're going to record everything you can record, for every one show you get to trade out, there will be at least 4 others that no one will ever want.

Plus, it's going to take a WHOLE lot of time to build up a collection of shows you want by simply filling in eps of current shows that someone missed because their Tivo took a dive. Faster, easier & cheaper (IMO) to simply record and/or buy shows you are interested in rather than trying to record something just in case anyone else wants it.

Plus, it's going to take a WHOLE lot of time to build up a collection by simply filling in eps of current shows that someone missed because their Tivo took a dive. Faster, easier & cheaper (IMO) to simply record and/or buy shows you are interested in rather than trying to record something just in case anyone wants it.


Yeah I guess another approach would be to buy off ebay but NOT RETAIL

.... and don't forget about the ORIGINAL COMMERCIALS !!!

..... tell'em about the ORIGINAL COMMERCIALS, tell them !! ... tell them !!

You forgot all about the promos. I want to hear the announcer say" stay tuned for the ten o"clock news and find out about a missing dog" that was found in 1978.

Researcher's way, you copy 42,000 shows and then when one person wants a particular episode, you now make a trade for one episode. Makes sense to me but then again I never thought the Titanic would sink.

Harvey the historian

Great, so you have that one eps they want. What about the other 50 eps of the tonight show that you have but no one wants?


When someone does this, they are not doing it JUST IN CASE someone what them, they are building a Tonight Show Collection. So that's what i'm trying to say, just think of a Tv show you want to start a collection of and you will eventually have all the Tonight Shows from 2006. Make sense?

When someone does this, they are not doing it JUST IN CASE someone what them, they are building a Tonight Show Collection. So that's what i'm trying to say, just think of a Tv show you want to start a collection of and you will eventually have all the Tonight Shows from 2006. Make sense?


No, what you said was tape everything. You never said tape things you are interested in having a set of.

No, what you said was tape everything. You never said tape things you are interested in having a set of.

Solomen does the same thing in the chat room. Makes a post and with each response changes his thoughts completely. It's pointed out to him on a continous basis, and they mimic him.

Harvey

Just start recording everything on television like Morning Talk shows, Soap Operas, Late Night Talk Shows on a Daily basis and you may see someone who missed a ep of one of those shows and may need a copy and that's how you can start expanding. Just record everthing that on cable or Network TV and Believe it will expand your collection.

Actually, he said it twice. :D

unless u want a huge collection of junk

there are lots of things that noone wants, very very rarely is anyone going to ask for an episode of Judge Joe Brown or a soap opera

and a lot of stuff EVERYONE allready has
so be selective with what u record unless your goal is to have the biggest junk pile on the board!:wave:

No, what you said was tape everything. You never said tape things you are interested in having a set of.


Ok well I should have said-"Choose a show you want to make a collection of and then record it everyday. A good choice would be the Today Show or The Tonight Show with jay Leno

unless u want a huge collection of junk

there are lots of things that noone wants, very very rarely is anyone going to ask for an episode of Judge Joe Brown or a soap opera

and a lot of stuff EVERYONE allready has
so be selective with what u record unless your goal is to have the biggest junk pile on the board!:wave:



I agree so my advice to New Traders would be to start a collection of one of the TV programs below

Tonight Show with Jay leno
Today Show
CBS evening News/ABC Evening News/NBC Evening News
The View


All those are popular shows

how often does anyone post asking for episodes of THE TODAY SHOW? or the CBS EVENING NEWS????

id say.....ummmm.... never?

just the last show with katie couric.

how often does anyone post asking for episodes of THE TODAY SHOW? or the CBS EVENING NEWS????

id say.....ummmm.... never?


I don;t know if you know this or not but this is not the only trading board-lol I see traders ask for that stuff all the time. But on here, NEVER i will agree with you there

how often does anyone post asking for episodes of THE TODAY SHOW? or the CBS EVENING NEWS????

id say.....ummmm.... never?

It'd like yesterdays newspaper. Good for wrapping fish. You will get more calls for Judge Judy and the case of the missing sparrow. The news has weather, sports and current events. Does nayone care what the weather was for May 6, 1978 in Butte, Montana, or that with seconds to go a Bob Cousy steal helped Boston defeat the St. Louis Hawks and Bob Pettit for the NBA title. Or maybe that Eddie Fisher dropped Debbie Reynolds for Liz Taylor. Give me a break.

Harvey

It'd like yesterdays newspaper. Good for wrapping fish. You will get more calls for Judge Judy and the case of the missing sparrow. The news has weather, sports and current events. Does nayone care what the weather was for May 6, 1978 in Butte, Montana, or that with seconds to go a Bob Cousy steal helped Boston defeat the St. Louis Hawks and Bob Pettit for the NBA title. Or maybe that Eddie Fisher dropped Debbie Reynolds for Liz Taylor. Give me a break.

Harvey


Never know Harv, some traders may like collecting News footage

Or maybe that Eddie Fisher dropped Debbie Reynolds for Liz Taylor. Give me a break.

Harvey



Is someone gonna tape Entertainment Tonight now?

Is someone gonna tape Entertainment Tonight now?


That's another good show to record if u are just starting

Never know Harv, some traders may like collecting News footage

Let's see if your correct. One of the great correspondents of the 40's and 50's was Lowell Thomas. I just acquired a 8 dvd set entitled Lowell Thomas remembers. It covers years 1919-1959 with great footage and really entertaining I also have all 26 eps of Victory at Sea, all 26 eps of the Great War, the history of W.W.1, also with great footage and a 5 dvd set from the BBC, entitled the World at War. Will let you know if anyone beats down my door to trade.

Harvey

I agree so my advice to New Traders would be to start a collection of one of the TV programs below

Tonight Show with Jay leno
Today Show
CBS evening News/ABC Evening News/NBC Evening News
The View


All those are popular shows

Actually, what we've all been saying is for someone to record what interests THEM. Not to try to anticipate what someone else may want. Otherwise, you're just going to waste a lot of time & money & end up frustrated because you have shows that you don't want & MAYBE you've been able to trade out an episode here & there. Maybe. But for the life of me, I cannot imagine why someone would want to keep copies of any news program. Especially in today's world where anything that's history in the making is shown repeatedly & if you still miss recording it, you can download it from any one of a number of sources. But hey, if that's what floats your boat, knock yourself out.

Let's see if your correct. One of the great correspondents of the 40's and 50's was Lowell Thomas. I just acquired a 8 dvd set entitled Lowell Thomas remembers. It covers years 1919-1959 with great footage and really entertaining I also have all 26 eps of Victory at Sea, all 26 eps of the Great War, the history of W.W.1, also with great footage and a 5 dvd set from the BBC, entitled the World at War. Will let you know if anyone beats down my door to trade.

Harvey

You have got to be the most bitter old man I have ever met. Solomon is just trying to give help to new traders and all you are doing is crapping on the thread. Take a Geritol.

Brian

You have got to be the most bitter old man I have ever met. Solomon is just trying to give help to new traders and all you are doing is crapping on the thread. Take a Geritol.

Brian

No one is "crapping on the thread". The point is he's giving new traders bad advice. If a new trader follows his advice they could end up with a lot of junk they never wanted and that no one else wants. What is the good of that?

No one is "crapping on the thread". The point is he's giving new traders bad advice. If a new trader follows his advice they could end up with a lot of junk they never wanted and that no one else wants. What is the good of that?

Old man Harvey sure is crapping on the thread, all he does is give sarcastic comments that are not helpful whatsoever. Some of you are giving good points, but ol' Harv is just plain useless.

Actually, what we've all been saying is for someone to record what interests THEM. Not to try to anticipate what someone else may want. Otherwise, you're just going to waste a lot of time & money & end up frustrated because you have shows that you don't want & MAYBE you've been able to trade out an episode here & there. Maybe. But for the life of me, I cannot imagine why someone would want to keep copies of any news program. Especially in today's world where anything that's history in the making is shown repeatedly & if you still miss recording it, you can download it from any one of a number of sources. But hey, if that's what floats your boat, knock yourself out.



It's really no right and wrong answers here, just want everyone to keep in mind that what I said was just a suggestion, traders can choose to ignore it or take it seriously but it worked for me

No one is "crapping on the thread". The point is he's giving new traders bad advice. If a new trader follows his advice they could end up with a lot of junk they never wanted and that no one else wants. What is the good of that?


So what do u suggest?

It's really no right and wrong answers here, just want everyone to keep in mind that what I said was just a suggestion, traders can choose to ignore it or take it seriously but it worked for me


I understand that you were trying to help. The problem in my mind is that we have so many newbies on here right now trying desperatly to start a collection. You come on here and tell them this is the perfect way to do that when in reality in my mind this would be a last resort.

i like watching footage from the kennedy assassination,watergate the footage from cbs nbs and abc i like watching how the news reporters covered it.

I understand that you were trying to help. The problem in my mind is that we have so many newbies on here right now trying desperatly to start a collection. You come on here and tell them this is the perfect way to do that when in reality in my mind this would be a last resort.



So what do you suggest?

So what do u suggest?


I suggest that people tape things because they want them and not on the off chance that someone will want it down the line. Why put time and effort into something that you're never going to watch? If you're starting off with nothing, do what a lot of us did to start out, buy things. It's quick, it's easy. Get one or two sets, they will get you moving. This isn't a hard hobby to get into if you're willing to put forth the effort.

I suggest that people tape things because they want them and not on the off chance that someone will want it down the line. Why put time and effort into something that you're never going to watch? If you're starting off with nothing, do what a lot of us did to start out, buy things. It's quick, it's easy. Get one or two sets, they will get you moving.


yeah buying things is another option but I was just saying if you don;t have the money to spend. But like i said i don't advise anyone to buy RETAIL sets

You have got to be the most bitter old man I have ever met. Solomon is just trying to give help to new traders and all you are doing is crapping on the thread. Take a Geritol.

Brian

Hey !!!

He's "OUR" bitter old man - nobody can call him that except us here on the trade board.

So you better step, before we come over to Chit Chat and have a good 'ol fashion throwdown / beatdown :D


On a lighter note,
I see Debra is missing from youar avatar today? how come?

Hey !!!

He's "OUR" bitter old man - nobody can call him that except us here on the trade board.

So you better step, before we come over to Chit Chat and have a good 'ol fashion throwdown / beatdown :D


On a lighter note,
I see Debra is missing from youar avatar today? how come?

I decided to rotate for awhile. I need to give Sofia Verara her "props." :p

I decided to rotate for awhile. I need to give Sofia Verara her "props." :p

OK, as long as you work her in the rotation - it's all good ! :happyface

Solomen does the same thing in the chat room. Makes a post and with each response changes his thoughts completely. It's pointed out to him on a continous basis, and they mimic him.

Harvey

Don't speak for Chit Chat members. On your best day, you couldn't be liked a fraction as much as Solomon. His threads get the most hits of probably any member on this site...which is more than I can say for your boring and endless joke threads.

You lasted a day at Chit Chat after being called out on your insults. You're in no position to comment on anyone's personality, considering your nasty and sour demeanor. Solomon is pleasant, popular and everything you're not.

Just stay holed up here at the Trading Post and toss your verbal grenades. It's the only place that will tolerate you.

Old man Harvey sure is crapping on the thread, all he does is give sarcastic comments that are not helpful whatsoever. Some of you are giving good points, but ol' Harv is just plain useless.

Sorry I don't meet with your approval, oh! mighty one. Must be a great feeling to be the Sultan of knowledge and wisdom.

Harvey

yeah buying things is another option but I was just saying if you don;t have the money to spend. But like i said i don't advise anyone to buy RETAIL sets

I agree. Buying retail sets is a bad idea. The thing is though, if they don't have money to buy a few sets, they probably shouldn't be persuing this hobby. It's not a cheap hobby! The money can add up very fast between media, shipping and electronics.

Don't speak for Chit Chat members. On your best day, you couldn't be liked a fraction as much as Solomon. His threads get the most hits of probably any member on this site...which is more than I can say for your boring and endless joke threads.

You lasted a day at Chit Chat after being called out on your insults. You're in no position to comment on anyone's personality, considering your nasty and sour demeanor. Solomon is pleasant, popular and everything you're not.

Just stay holed up here at the Trading Post and toss your verbal grenades. It's the only place that will tolerate you.

Is that why you came up stairs Brain Damage, to insult. I said nothing to you, about you, or made the slightest mention of you but you decided Solomon needed a Philadelphia lawyer. The way you did it was with insults, crude remarks, and pure nastiness. I didn't inusult Solomon but the concept he was putting forth as did many others but you decided to open your toilet and sling mud.

P. S. If you don't like the jokes, dont F***in! read them.

Harvey

P. S. If you don't like the jokes, dont F***in! read them.

Harvey

No problem, nobody else does

Don't speak for Chit Chat members. On your best day, you couldn't be liked a fraction as much as Solomon. His threads get the most hits of probably any member on this site...which is more than I can say for your boring and endless joke threads.

You lasted a day at Chit Chat after being called out on your insults. You're in no position to comment on anyone's personality, considering your nasty and sour demeanor. Solomon is pleasant, popular and everything you're not.

Just stay holed up here at the Trading Post and toss your verbal grenades. It's the only place that will tolerate you.

(Getting out dictionary, looking up the word 'moderator'.)

I think it's time we do a Drive-By on Chit Chat.

I'll round up the troops - (Lamont, get the spam-gun ready)

People we are now in: Condition Yellow

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/images/200-hsas-chart.jpg

I think it's time we do a Drive-By on Chit Chat.

I'll round up the troops - (Lamont, get the spam-gun ready)

People we are now in: Condition Yellow

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/images/200-hsas-chart.jpg


Can I help???

Quote:
Originally Posted by lilhave
P. S. If you don't like the jokes, dont F***in! read them.

Harvey

No problem, nobody else does

A magical nobody has viewed the laughter archive 7,135 times then.

There is indeed a person posting here who is being insulting and rude. But it's not lilhave.

Don't speak for Chit Chat members. On your best day, you couldn't be liked a fraction as much as Solomon. His threads get the most hits of probably any member on this site...which is more than I can say for your boring and endless joke threads.

You lasted a day at Chit Chat after being called out on your insults. You're in no position to comment on anyone's personality, considering your nasty and sour demeanor. Solomon is pleasant, popular and everything you're not.

Just stay holed up here at the Trading Post and toss your verbal grenades. It's the only place that will tolerate you.

Let's understand a few things.

Jokes. Just looked and there over 7,000 reads, so someone is looking at them.

Solomon getting the most hits. Sure does. On the sitcom board he has posted over 32,000 times in less then 4 years. That's just the sitcom board , have no ida how many times in his sports board.

His threads. Just looked at some recent ones he started.

!. Are guys turned of by this. A girl called up to go to bed with him and he wanted opinions.
2. How many guys hate going on dates?
3. Should men cry in these situations?
4. Waiting for the mail and he saw the fat mail lady having lunch and it was two o'clock. Wanted opinions
5. Who likes Oreo cookies?
6. Is high heel sneakers sexy?
7. Do people you work with bring relatives to work.?

Just a few

On each comment he replies. Yes , he has a high thread count.

I will not mention names of the people and you read the posts of the women who say he switches stories, no women will ever satisfy him, all he wants to do is watch sports and post on the board. So please save your crap for someone else.

Harvey

Can I help???


Yes, Loren is away on vacation so we won't be able to use his cut-throat, belittleing ways to our advantage.
We need the rest of you to step-up and show us what you got.

We gotta MAN-UP - protect our own.

Let's understand a few things.


His threads. Just looked at some recent ones he started.

!. Are guys turned of by this. A girl called up to go to bed with him and he wanted opinions.
2. How many guys hate going on dates?
3. Should men cry in these situations?
4. Waiting for the mail and he saw the fat mail lady having lunch and it was two o'clock. Wanted opinions
5. Who likes Oreo cookies?
6. Is high heel sneakers sexy?
7. Do people you work with bring relatives to work.?

Just a few

On each comment he replies. Yes , he has a high thread count.

I will not mention names of the people and you read the posts of the women who say he switches stories, no women will ever satisfy him, all he wants to do is watch sports and post on the board. So please save your crap for someone else.

Harvey


Oh come on. He sounds like such a catch! You're just trying to run him out of here so Savage doesn't realize what she is missing.:brent

Let's understand a few things.

Jokes. Just looked and there over 7,000 reads, so someone is looking at them.

Solomon getting the most hits. Sure does. On the sitcom board he has posted over 32,000 times in less then 4 years. That's just the sitcom board , have no ida how many times in his sports board.

His threads. Just looked at some recent ones he started.

!. Are guys turned of by this. A girl called up to go to bed with him and he wanted opinions.
2. How many guys hate going on dates?
3. Should men cry in these situations?
4. Waiting for the mail and he saw the fat mail lady having lunch and it was two o'clock. Wanted opinions
5. Who likes Oreo cookies?
6. Is high heel sneakers sexy?
7. Do people you work with bring relatives to work.?

Just a few

On each comment he replies. Yes , he has a high thread count.

I will not mention names of the people and you read the posts of the women who say he switches stories, no women will ever satisfy him, all he wants to do is watch sports and post on the board. So please save your crap for someone else.

Harvey

And your point? Do you even have one?

Yes, Loren is away on vacation so we won't be able to use his cut-throat, belittleing ways to our advantage.
We need the rest of you to step-up and show us what you got.

We gotta MAN-UP - protect our own.

:lol:

Let's understand a few things.

Jokes. Just looked and there over 7,000 reads, so someone is looking at them.

Solomon getting the most hits. Sure does. On the sitcom board he has posted over 32,000 times in less then 4 years. That's just the sitcom board , have no ida how many times in his sports board.

His threads. Just looked at some recent ones he started.

!. Are guys turned of by this. A girl called up to go to bed with him and he wanted opinions.
2. How many guys hate going on dates?
3. Should men cry in these situations?
4. Waiting for the mail and he saw the fat mail lady having lunch and it was two o'clock. Wanted opinions
5. Who likes Oreo cookies?
6. Is high heel sneakers sexy?
7. Do people you work with bring relatives to work.?

Just a few

On each comment he replies. Yes , he has a high thread count.

I will not mention names of the people and you read the posts of the women who say he switches stories, no women will ever satisfy him, all he wants to do is watch sports and post on the board. So please save your crap for someone else.

Harvey


Harvey all my posts in chit chat are created to get laughs too just like your joke threads on the trading board, so yes they are silly topics because I want people to see the humor in them. I can't believe this thread turned into all this-lol

Let's understand a few things.

Jokes. Just looked and there over 7,000 reads, so someone is looking at them.

Harvey

I could click on my own threads all day long too and boost my view totals, it doesn't mean anybody else is looking at them. The ones on the front page have barely any hits.

Harvey all my posts in chit chat are created to get laughs too just like your joke threads on the trading board, so yes they are silly topics because I want people to see the humor in them. I can't believe this thread turned into all this-lol

Your buddy Brain Damage began it. I didn't speak about threads, till he came riding in on the white steed, telling one all that what I said was nonsense and Solomon is loved by one and all and has the most threads. Didn't know it was a game of posting. If so I congratulate you. But keep in mind who came up from down stairs to say leave Solomon alone and no one reads my jokes and is hinting that I keep reading them to boost the numbers. Damage said his peace and now can go down stairs and crawl under the rock he emerged form.

Harvey

Old man Harvey sure is crapping on the thread, all he does is give sarcastic comments that are not helpful whatsoever. Some of you are giving good points, but ol' Harv is just plain useless.

Whoa BrainDamage!

Love your avatar but back off the fossil. Harv is our cynical old man and the sarcasm is part of this board.

Solomon posted information that Harv felt was poor, unlike other members who use tact and diplomacy. Harv came out and told it like it is in his ever so sarcastic (luv it man) way.

I have taken minor pot shots from Harv and returned them back in kind... That's what we do here! God if people took the sarcasm to heart poor Monty would be in a padded room (and Joker and I would be outside taunting him:lol: ).

You are a moderator, aren't you supposed to be mediating the fights not picking them. Save the fight picking to the professionals.

Lex

I think it's time we do a Drive-By on Chit Chat.

I'll round up the troops - (Lamont, get the spam-gun ready)

People we are now in: Condition Yellow

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/images/200-hsas-chart.jpg

OH YES the chit chat pages---- full of such great threads as

HOW MANY POSTS DO U HAVE BESIDE YOUR NAME?

WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE COLOR?

and discussions at length about Oral Sex, How much people hate their jobs and how wonderful they think each other are

:lol: :lol: :lol:

i suppose that pages like that are helpful to occupy people with too much time on their hands

I also think that, while TvResearcher was TRYING to give helpful advice--- the advice was not so hot---

It is true that there ARE other trading places, BUT since the guy posted on THIS ONE looking advice on the TRADING POST, about how to get started TRADING in the TRADING POST--- then the advice given should be helpful to him HERE, not some other board that might exist elsewhere

a few facts

1. noone EVER posts looking for last nights CBS NEWS or Judge Joe Brown, or Entertainment Tonight and VERY VERY RARELY posts looking for THE TODAY SHOW, TONIGHT SHOW etc etc etc---
there is just no market for those things AT ALL! and if you taped 500 hours of such stuff, u MIGHT one day have someone ask you for 1 hour of it, so you would have wasted weeks of your life on nothing

2. the ONLY news footage that i EVER see any interest in are the HUGE STORIES of the past--- such as the JFK assassination, the Space Shuttle Blowing up, death of the Pope, old presidential elections, state funerals, etc etc etc--- OTHER THAN THAT, noone cares and noone wants it

3. I learned long ago, that if u want to trade YOU HAVE TO HAVE STUFF people ACTUALLY WANT--- so if someone wants to get started, the need to seek out rare stuff, maybe spend some $, maybe even buy a few sets, and maybe they can get lucky and catch a rare show on a local channel

4. EQUIPMENT is a must, if you want to trade DVDS u have to be able to duplicate and copy them, with a duplicater or at the VERY LEAST a dvd burner drive on a computer, otherwise whats the point

5. VHS trading is nearly dead, there are a few vhs traders out there, but they are a dying breed, and you have to record in REAL TIME-- a 2 hour tape takes 2 hours to copy and the quality degrades with every generation--- a 2 hour dvd takes 8 minutes to copy and quality remains Unchanged


I don't know how we got so far off track and it became a TVRESEARCHER pro and con thread, but thats not the point, the point is, if someone gives advice, it should hopefully be useful advice, and id hate to see this new guy wasting his time and taping junk like the evening news, soaps, and entertainment tonight for nothing---- UNLESS you are just wanting to trade with Solomon!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I also think that, while TvResearcher was TRYING to give helpful advice--- the advice was not so hot---

It is true that there ARE other trading places, BUT since the guy posted on THIS ONE looking advice on the TRADING POST, about how to get started TRADING in the TRADING POST--- then the advice given should be helpful to him HERE, not some other board that might exist elsewhere

a few facts

1. noone EVER posts looking for last nights CBS NEWS or Judge Joe Brown, or Entertainment Tonight and VERY VERY RARELY posts looking for THE TODAY SHOW, TONIGHT SHOW etc etc etc---
there is just no market for those things AT ALL! and if you taped 500 hours of such stuff, u MIGHT one day have someone ask you for 1 hour of it, so you would have wasted weeks of your life on nothing

2. the ONLY news footage that i EVER see any interest in are the HUGE STORIES of the past--- such as the JFK assassination, the Space Shuttle Blowing up, death of the Pope, old presidential elections, state funerals, etc etc etc--- OTHER THAN THAT, noone cares and noone wants it

3. I learned long ago, that if u want to trade YOU HAVE TO HAVE STUFF people ACTUALLY WANT--- so if someone wants to get started, the need to seek out rare stuff, maybe spend some $, maybe even buy a few sets, and maybe they can get lucky and catch a rare show on a local channel

4. EQUIPMENT is a must, if you want to trade DVDS u have to be able to duplicate and copy them, with a duplicater or at the VERY LEAST a dvd burner drive on a computer, otherwise whats the point

5. VHS trading is nearly dead, there are a few vhs traders out there, but they are a dying breed, and you have to record in REAL TIME-- a 2 hour tape takes 2 hours to copy and the quality degrades with every generation--- a 2 hour dvd takes 8 minutes to copy and quality remains Unchanged


I don't know how we got so far off track and it became a TVRESEARCHER pro and con thread, but thats not the point, the point is, if someone gives advice, it should hopefully be useful advice, and id hate to see this new guy wasting his time and taping junk like the evening news, soaps, and entertainment tonight for nothing---- UNLESS you are just wanting to trade with Solomon!

:lol: :lol: :lol:




But see buying RARE items maybe very expensive so it's just good to record certain things on TV like for example-Star Dates, and then someone who has a LARGE collection, like you, would be very interested in that Star Dates and then they can pick a rare show from you like the JACKSONS, and then there maybe some other traders out there with LARGE collections who don;t have the JACKSONS and then that may be another opportunity for that New Trader to expand his collection. It only took one show that expand my collection, everyone was so interested in the ABC broadcast of Mork and Mindy from 1978 and that's all it took and then well u know the rest-lol

But see buying RARE items maybe very expensive so it's just good to record certain things on TV like for example-Star Dates, and then someone who has a LARGE collection, like you, would be very interested in that Star Dates and then they can pick a rare show from you like the JACKSONS, and then there maybe some other traders out there with LARGE collections who don;t have the JACKSONS and then that may be another opportunity for that New Trader to expand his collection. It only took one show that expand my collection, everyone was so interested in the ABC broadcast of Mork and Mindy from 1978 and that's all it took and then well u know the rest-lol

Guess there are two ways of doing it. Look to trade one episode at a time or go for complete or close to complete series as possible. That Mork and Mindy dvd your talking of, if you traded it 45 times you still only got 45 eps in return. I guess if you start young and have 50 years to kiil, you can build a nice collection. Just curious, I never looked at your list, how many full series do you have?

Harvey

Guess there are two ways of doing it. Look to trade one episode at a time or go for complete or close to complete series as possible. That Mork and Mindy dvd your talking of, if you traded it 45 times you still only got 45 eps in return. I guess if you start young and have 50 years to kiil, you can build a nice collection. Just curious, I never looked at your list, how many full series do you have?

Harvey


The only complete series I collect are RETAIL and I don't post retail DVD because they are in the store. But i mainly collect Original airings, and look for rare shows. Most rare shows i look for u won;t ever get the complete series, just 1 ep or 2 eps like these shows below

Lewis and Clark-I know for a fact that is not complete

Amanda's-Not complete and proabably never will be

Just Out Luck-Not complete and never will be

in STAR DATES a rare short lived series
and the CBS NEWS or ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT

people want star dates
people do not want the other stuff u recommended taping

The only complete series I collect are RETAIL and I don't post retail DVD because they are in the store. But i mainly collect Original airings, and look for rare shows. Most rare shows i look for u won;t ever get the complete series, just 1 ep or 2 eps like these shows below

Lewis and Clark-I know for a fact that is not complete

Amanda's-Not complete and proabably never will be

Just Out Luck-Not complete and never will be


tvresearcher, u need to realize that 99% of the traders who trade--- do NOT trade like that

most people prefer to swap on DVD, not vhs, and prefer to swap SETS of shows, not just single episodes with original commercials and such

so my point is, the advice u gave on shows to tape, was simply not going to benefit the fellow who wanted to get started and it would have been a monumental waste of time for him!

tvresearcher, u need to realize that 99% of the traders who trade--- do NOT trade like that

most people prefer to swap on DVD, not vhs, and prefer to swap SETS of shows, not just single episodes with original commercials and such

so my point is, the advice u gave on shows to tape, was simply not going to benefit the fellow who wanted to get started and it would have been a monumental waste of time for him!


Reagardless if people trade like that or not, if someone was interested in Lewis and Clark on DVD, there is no such thing as a complete set.

i put up a poll

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=175490

lets see if ANYONE has ANY Interest in the type of shows u said would be wise to tape, 1 day only so vote 1 and all!

** PLEASE do not ask friends who do NOT trade at all, to vote to sway the outcome b/c thats silly****

Reagardless if people trade like that or not, if someone was interested in Lewis and Clark on DVD, there is no such thing as a complete set.

This should be point #13 in the "Flaming" thread...

Attempt to divert attention away from the main point by arguing points that are irrelevant.

So Lamont if there are no more sets out there for you to get what will u do then? Retire from trading?-lol

Reagardless if people trade like that or not, if someone was interested in Lewis and Clark on DVD, there is no such thing as a complete set.

So if there no complete set as I previously said people try to get as complete a set as they can. You don't even attempt that. You look for one episode if 15 exist and look for folks to cater to your trading needs. You absolutely refuse to accept that's not how people trade and to tell a newbie this is the way to go is unfair on your part.

It seems like you know what's rare and what's not. Are you the one that determines that?, because one person has it, it's no longer rare. Scarce today and common tomorrow. One person gets a set, or even a partial, makes a trade and before you know it, it's on 5o lists. Every item on everyones list, not retail at one time was rare, folks wondered will It ever see the light of day. Most did.

Story. The holy grail of all westerns is Whispering Smith, starring Audie Murphy. As the tale goes only the pilot exists and it seems like a good show. All remaining prints were destroyed as Murphy became a drunk and destroyed them. A friend I trade with tells me, his source, which happens to be a agent for th U. S. government has 12 of the episodes on tape and will convert them. Every western fan would give their eye teeth to get them. When and if I get them, I could trade it 50 times over. There goes rare. I remember when to catch a thief first came on the scene. People were selling it for millions on Ioffer. It's now common fare. Only rare if you put it in your closet and or to only trusted friends.

Point, Rare today, common tomorrow.

Harvey

So Lamont if there are no more sets out there for you to get what will u do then? Retire from trading?-lol

there are ALWAYS gonna be sets out there that people dont have

and i collect a lot of stuff that is NOT complete, a few eps of this a few of that

my point was simply that the stuff u suggested taping was not a wise choice to tape


there is tons of stuff out there worth taping

This should be point #13 in the "Flaming" thread...

Attempt to divert attention away from the main point by arguing points that are irrelevant.

i see what u mean, as if the completeness of Lewis and Clarke has ANYTHING to do with the thread about taping today show, news, etc

:lol: :lol:

So if there no complete set as I prviously said people try to get as complete a set as they can. You don't even attempt that. You look for one episode if 15 exist and look for folks to cater toyour trading needs. You absolutely refuse to accept that's not how people trade and to tell a newbie this is the way to go is unfair on your part.

It seems like you know what's rare and what's not. Are you the one that determines that?, becuae one person has it, it's no longer rare. Scarce today and common tomorrow. One person gets a set, or even apartial, makes a trade and before you no it, it's one 5o lists. Every item on everyones list, not retail at one time was rare, folks wondered will It ever see the light of day. Most did.

Story. The holy grail of all westerns is Whispering Smith, starring Audie Murphy. As the tale goes only the pilot exists and it seems like a good show. All remaining prints were destroyed as Murphy became a drunk and destroyed them. A friend I trade with tells me, his source, which happens to be a agent for th U. S. government has 12 of the episodes on tape and will convert them. Every western fan would give their eye teeth to get them. When and if I get them, I could trade it 50 times over. There goes rare. I remember when to catch a thief first came on the scene. People were selling it for millions on Ioffer. It's now common fare. Only rare if you put it in your closet and or to only trusted friends.

Point, Rare today, common tomorrow.

Harvey


That's what I do harvey, I don't trade the Really RARE shows that easily such as Lewis and Clark, and Out of the Blue. I guess we are all different types of traders, me I look for THE REALLY OBSCURE SHOWS, Lamont looks for what he can get his hands on-lol So everyone is different and looks for different types of programming. So I guess u can also tell Lamont when he makes his annoucement-"NEW RARE SETS in" that it's no longer RARE if he got the set from someone who got it from someone else who got it from someone else-lol

That's what I do harvey, I don't trade the Really RARE shows that easily such as Lewis and Clark, and Out of the Blue. I guess we are all different types of traders, me I look for THE REALLY OBSCURE SHOWS, Lamont looks for what he can get his hands on-lol So everyone is different and looks for different types of programming. So I guess u can also tell Lamont when he makes his annoucement-"NEW RARE SETS in" that it's no longer RARE if he got the set from someone who got it from someone else who got it from someone else-lol

RARE is all situational, i think a show is rare if it is not on most peoples list and most people do not have access to it

and sorry to disappoint u, but i do not swap for everything i can get my hands on, i turn down about 25 trades a week b/c people have nothing that interests me

That's what I do harvey, I don't trade the Really RARE shows that easily such as Lewis and Clark, and Out of the Blue. I guess we are all different types of traders, me I look for THE REALLY OBSCURE SHOWS, Lamont looks for what he can get his hands on-lol So everyone is different and looks for different types of programming. So I guess u can also tell Lamont when he makes his annoucement-"NEW RARE SETS in" that it's no longer RARE if he got the set from someone who got it from someone else who got it from someone else-lol

You know what's annoying to me about what you do -

You will make a post for something you want 1 week (oh, let's say the "Miracle at the Medowlands" i.e. football game between Giants vs Eagles). Someone will answer your request & send you the game. You watch it and then you make another post that you are getting "rid" of the game looking for something else. Note: You are getting rid of it, not making a copy to trade for something else but rather, just getting rid of it.

Why go through all the trouble of tracking something down in the first place? Seems like a waste of time

But it's his time so why does it annoy you? The chase is the thrill for some.

That's what I do harvey, I don't trade the Really RARE shows that easily such as Lewis and Clark, and Out of the Blue. I guess we are all different types of traders, me I look for THE REALLY OBSCURE SHOWS, Lamont looks for what he can get his hands on-lol So everyone is different and looks for different types of programming. So I guess u can also tell Lamont when he makes his annoucement-"NEW RARE SETS in" that it's no longer RARE if he got the set from someone who got it from someone else who got it from someone else-lol

It's really foolish to try to make any sense with you. You dance to your own beat, sing your song, even if everyone is singing another and I don't know if you feel you are going to convert others to your way of thinking. I really doubt it. Some facts, even you have to accept. 99.99 percent of traders look to get as much of a series as they can. Either it's easier to sell, easier to trade or they like the show and want to see as much as possible. You appear to enjoy the commercials and the promos more then the show. Shows mean zilch to you, only if it's rare and if it's rare, you hide it in the basement so no one will ever get it, so it will remain rare. You know the old adage of "wake up and smell the coffee"? Maybe it'stime to get in step.

Harvey

But it's his time so why does it annoy you? The chase is the thrill for some.

You've been here 7 days :newbie: , wait till you've had a healthy dose of Solomon


You'll start doing this soon :2help

Oh come on. He sounds like such a catch! You're just trying to run him out of here so Savage doesn't realize what she is missing.:brent


Nah I am well aware---
As far as one of the original points-early on

Traders forum has its moments of dumb threads- but I have to say a lot of what gets said in the chit chat area- seems filler or inappropriate.
I would not wnat to moderate there- suffice to say.

What I dont get is tis.
I get reports if Lilhave has a joke that is too....colorful.

But I go down there and see a thread on (Seriously) sex advice to a girl who says she is 14.

Eww.

Regardless of your opinion, lets try to respect the right to post what they want- and respect the fact another moderator is in charge down there.
I am SURE we don't see the half of it.

What is that phrase people in glass forums shouldn't throw stones?

I have no critisicm for a forum I haven't run-
and have no right to tell others what they can and can't post, even if I think its fluff.
I am sure someone reading this forum, reading "Ginger or MaryAnn might think the same?
Also plesae note many of the users in that area- are young. YOUNG.

SO lets try to at least respect others --some of the responses here are a little harsh. And I mean everyone, including moderators. There is no reason to drop down to insults and little jabs.

-
And as far as the other point..rarity etc.
One mans treasure is another mans garbage.

No offense meant TVresearcher, but you are one of a kind.

Marjority of tv traders, collectors me included.

Do not care about Original Commercials, they want the best quality available, not to watch some tv show that is a 1/10 quality because it has that rare commerical with Lucille Ball promoting her new movie Yours Mine And Ours.

Majority of people I included, when they are looking for a show want to get the most complete set available. NOt just 1 or 2 episodes, just because they have rare original commericals, and are crapolla quality.

You know what's annoying to me about what you do -

You will make a post for something you want 1 week (oh, let's say the "Miracle at the Medowlands" i.e. football game between Giants vs Eagles). Someone will answer your request & send you the game. You watch it and then you make another post that you are getting "rid" of the game looking for something else. Note: You are getting rid of it, not making a copy to trade for something else but rather, just getting rid of it.

Why go through all the trouble of tracking something down in the first place? Seems like a waste of time



JOKER-lol When did you ever see a post of mine GIVING AWAY the "Miracle of the Meadowlands?????? I'm never ever ever giving that away. That game is SPECIAL

And as far as the other point..rarity etc.
One mans treasure is another mans garbage.

Exactly. Some items people collect, such as china, crystal or sports memorabilia have certain guidelines that (for the most part) define what's rare & what's not. This hobby, more than many others, is defined by each individual. It doesn't matter if a show is truly "rare" (in the sense of availability), if no one wants it. (shrug) And honestly, some of the early things I bought on Ebay a few years ago were things that sold on Ebay every day for several months, at that time. Yet those often have been the items seasoned SO traders wanted from me.

It's really foolish to try to make any sense with you. You dance to your own beat, sing your song, even if everyone is singing another and I don't know if you feel you are going to convert others to your way of thinking. I really doubt it. Some facts, even you have to accept. 99.99 percent of traders look to get as much of a series as they can. Either it's easier to sell, easier to trade or they like the show and want to see as much as possible. You appear to enjoy the commercials and the promos more then the show. Shows mean zilch to you, only if it's rare and if it's rare, you hide it in the basement so no one will ever get it, so it will remain rare. You know the old adage of "wake up and smell the coffee"? Maybe it'stime to get in step.

Harvey



Harv don't you think I have already done that?-lol Do you think I made a post saying-"I"m looking for ONE EP of "Amanda's, the 1983 Comedy with Bea Arthur. I got whatever was out there and shows like that normally are not complete on DVD

TVresearcher, but you are one of a kind.

TVResearcher, do you remember a few years ago you posted a complaint about a guy (Porkys1982) because you wanted something on his list but didn't have anything he wanted to trade with him? The thread started with you saying something like, 'Can you believe there is a guy on this board who will only trade for shows with original commercials? '. You went on to call him crazy. Things have come full circle. It is now you who only wants shows with original commercials, and since that seems crazy to most all of us here, you get the "one of a kind" tag.

Since the vast majority of people here collect differently than you, we trade completely differently than you too. As a result, a lot of your posts, whether it be a suggestion to newbies to record news broadcasts to start building a collection, or to not trade more than 5 discs at a time, or to make sure you watch every second of every show before you trade it, and on and on, DO NOT APPLY to us. For the experienced traders here your recommendations are unrealistic so we laugh at you and argue with you. But for the newbie who has not expressed any interest in collecting shows woc, your advice is very poor, completely out of place and could end up doing far more harm than good should, god forbid, any of them actually listen to you.

I'm not saying you should "get in step", nothing wrong with collecting shows woc, the point is that if you "know your audience" before you speak, the rest of us won't have to come in and do damage control after you've spoken.

TVResearcher, do you remember a few years ago you posted a complaint about a guy (Porkys1982) because you wanted something on his list but didn't have anything he wanted to trade with him? The thread started with you saying something like, 'Can you believe there is a guy on this board who will only trade for shows with original commercials? '. You went on to call him crazy. Things have come full circle. It is now you who only wants shows with original commercials, and since that seems crazy to most all of us here, you get the "one of a kind" tag.
.

hilarious? i think that sums it up best!

TVResearcher, do you remember a few years ago you posted a complaint about a guy (Porkys1982) because you wanted something on his list but didn't have anything he wanted to trade with him? The thread started with you saying something like, 'Can you believe there is a guy on this board who will only trade for shows with original commercials? '. You went on to call him crazy. Things have come full circle. It is now you who only wants shows with original commercials, and since that seems crazy to most all of us here, you get the "one of a kind" tag.

Since the vast majority of people here collect differently than you, we trade completely differently than you too. As a result, a lot of your posts, whether it be a suggestion to newbies to record news broadcasts to start building a collection, or to not trade more than 5 discs at a time, or to make sure you watch every second of every show before you trade it, and on and on, DO NOT APPLY to us. For the experienced traders here your recommendations are unrealistic so we laugh at you and argue with you. But for the newbie who has not expressed any interest in collecting shows woc, your advice is very poor, completely out of place and could end up doing far more harm than good should, god forbid, any of them actually listen to you.

I'm not saying you should "get in step", nothing wrong with collecting shows woc, the point is that if you "know your audience" before you speak, the rest of us won't have to come in and do damage control after you've spoken.



I don't remember that post but everyone is crticizing my suggestions but have yet to add their own. This thread can be for everyone to add their suggestions instead of saying what I said is not the way to go.

i think several of us added ideas about how to get started and what to tape
BUT
what NOT to tape is just as important
b/c noone wants to end up with 500 hours of new footage and judge joe brown that noone will ever want

well... almost noone

:p

i think several of us added ideas about how to get started and what to tape
BUT
what NOT to tape is just as important
b/c noone wants to end up with 500 hours of new footage and judge joe brown that noone will ever want

well... almost noone

:p



Once again u r saying Judge Joe Brown, not me-lol

to finish lamont's brilliant last post


well... almost noone but maybe tvreseracher, tvresearcher did i tell you i got a original episode of crapolla theatre rides again, with original commercials with crapolla queen herself Crapolla martin. LOL

I don't remember that post but everyone is crticizing my suggestions but have yet to add their own. This thread can be for everyone to add their suggestions instead of saying what I said is not the way to go.

Obviously you haven't read the posts. At least 5 people said to begin by purchasing something from ebay or another trader. Look at as many lists as you can and eliminate what can be described as common, that on many lists, and look for something that is on very few lists. Purchase that and join as many boards as you can and offer what you have to trade. If it's not common you will get a trader and now you have 2 sets and you work from there. Your way is to sit home and copy a few mos. of a ton of stuff and now ask"who missed what, and do you need a spare episode" Does this really make sense to you? Read you opening post, copy everything, news etc. Why in the good Lord's name would anybody want a episode of news on a typical day, three weeks ago, when nothing earth shattering happened.? I know, there might be a promo of a fall release of some movie with Goldie Hawn. What's even worse if you make a trade, you will give them your end on a tape. Ask around who wants a tape instead of a dvd? If you get one I would be shocked. I repeat what I said in a earlier thread, if you look on the dance floor and the band is playing a cha, cha, cha, and all are going one, two, one, two, three, you will look stupid trying to do hip hop. I know it's a free country but get with the program. Do what ever rings your bell but don't and I mean don't screw up a newbie. They have enough to deal with without your sage advice.

Harvey

I don't remember that post

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=104070

everyone is crticizing my suggestions but have yet to add their own.

See message #s 3, 28 and 37 in this thread.

Obviously you haven't read the posts. At least 5 people said to begin by purchasing something from ebay or another trader. Look at as many lists as you can and eliminate what can be described as common, that on many lists, and look for something that is on very few lists. Purchase that and join as many boards as you can and offer what you have to trade. If it's not common you will get a trader and now you have 2 sets and you work from there. Your way is to sit home and copy a few mos. of a ton of stuff and now ask"who missed what, and do you need a spare episode" Does this really make sense to you? Read you opening post, copy everything, news etc. Why in the good Lord's name would anybody want a episode of news on a typical day, three weeks ago, when nothing earth shattering happened.? I know, there might be a promo of a fall release of some movie with Goldie Hawn. What's even worse if you make a trade, you will give them your end on a tape. Ask around who wants a tape instead of a dvd? If you get one I would be shocked. I repeat what I said in a earlier thread, if you look on the dance floor and the band is playing a cha, cha, cha, and all are going one, two, one, two, three, you will look stupid trying to do hip hop. I know it's a free country but get with the program. Do what ever rings your bell but don't and I mean don't screw up a newbie. They have enough to deal with without your sage advice.

Harvey



Is it ok for them to record anything off cable?-lol

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=104070



See message #s 3, 28 and 37 in this thread.



Yeah those was the days when I had no WOC-lol

Is it ok for them to record anything off cable?-lol


At least we have a live-horse to beat up this week.

All the other weeks we have a dead one.


Joker

Is it ok for them to record anything off cable?-lol

What's the lol for? Something funny I missed

Sure they can record off cable but we are talking about how to begin as a trader, and you want to talk apples. You want to discuss the average rainfall duing the monsoon season in India? Great, but has nothing to do as far as a newbie getting started. If they want to dupe of cable for their private enjoyment, commercials and all, or for prosperity, that's great but that has nothing to do with the best way to begin as a trader.

For once stay on thread on WHAT YOU started, how best for a newbie to begin and you claimed in your opening post, dupe everything, and you repeated it twice. Do you still stand by that statement or are you now going to modify, edit or just drop your brilliant idea.?

Harvey

What's the lol for? Something funny I missed




What? you didn't know?

that's his calling card ( lol ) He leaves it on 80% of his posts. I called him out on that already somewhere a long time a go.

What's the lol for? Something funny I missed

Sure they can record off cable but we are talking about how to begin as a trader, and you want to talk apples. You want to discuss the average rainfall duing the monsoon season in India? Great, but has nothing to do as far as a newbie getting started. If they want to dupe of cable for their private enjoyment, commercials and all, or for prosperity, that's great but that has nothing to do with the best way to begin as a trader.

For once stay on thread on WHAT YOU started, how best for a newbie to begin and you claimed in your opening post, dupe everything, and you repeated it twice. Do you still stand by that statement or are you now going to modify, edit or just drop your brilliant idea.?

Harvey



OK maybe not the Evening News, well Katie Couric's first CBS News is something to record but I see nothing wrong with a beginner recording the Tonight Show or Today Show for certain Guests. Not everyday but just some days.

OK maybe not the Evening News, well Katie Couric's first CBS News is something to record but I see nothing wrong with a beginner recording the Tonight Show or Today Show for certain Guests. Not everyday but just some days.

So your changing what you said in the opening post about all. Be a man, step up to the podium and say I made a mistake. Cleanses the soul, makes you feel a lot better.

Harvey the spiritual advisor to the stars but I can help you to.

#100

From this:
Just start recording everything on television like Morning Talk shows, Soap Operas, Late Night Talk Shows on a Daily basis
To this:
I should have said-"Choose a show you want to make a collection of and then record it everyday. A good choice would be the Today Show or The Tonight Show with jay Leno
To this:
my advice to New Traders would be to start a collection of one of the TV programs below

Tonight Show with Jay leno
Today Show
CBS evening News/ABC Evening News/NBC Evening News
The View
To this:
I see nothing wrong with a beginner recording the Tonight Show or Today Show for certain Guests. Not everyday but just some days.

Unbelievable.

So your changing what you said in the opening post about all. Be a man, step up to the podium and say I made a mistake. Cleanses the soul, makes you feel a lot better.

Harvey the spiritual advisor to the stars but I can help you to.



I stand by the other things I said but maybe Evening News was the wrong thing to say.

I stand by the other things I said
Which version? Some of them conflict and now you're really confusing things.

Which version? Some of them conflict and now you're really confusing things.


I stand by that a newbie should record these shows

The Today Show
The View
Tonight Show

In Summary:

TVResearcher posts well-intentioned advice for newbies.
Said advice is flawed.
Many point out that said advice is flawed.
Poll.

hmmmm the list of shows now dwindles/???


the point is


that if a new trader read that list and HONESTLY thought that if he taped
THE TODAY SHOW for 6 months
or THE VIEW for 6 months
etc

and then he spent all that time and finally he posted

"UP FOR TRADE --- 6 months worth of THE VIEW to trade!"

i can assure u, that he would be reallllllll pissed off that he took your advice

b/c NOONE would reply to him, NOONE would want the set and he would have wasted tons of his time on a useless set and he would be the laughingstock of the board

hmmmm the list of shows now dwindles/???


the point is


that if a new trader read that list and HONESTLY thought that if he taped
THE TODAY SHOW for 6 months
or THE VIEW for 6 months
etc

and then he spent all that time and finally he posted

"UP FOR TRADE --- 6 months worth of THE VIEW to trade!"

i can assure u, that he would be reallllllll pissed off that he took your advice

b/c NOONE would reply to him, NOONE would want the set and he would have wasted tons of his time on a useless set and he would be the laughingstock of the board



Lamont, let me try to be clear, I said the newbie can record those shows, I never said for 6 months, i said record them ocaasionally and maybe someone will need the Today show from last thursday. I never said some should advertise that they have the Today show from the last 6 months, YOU SAID THAT. But Maybe you should start an advice to newbie thread because u have the largest collection in the U.S. I want to learn from you LAMONT!! How can I expand collection?

tvresearcher--- several of us, several times in this thread have given such advice
its been posted allready
no need to do it again

and yes, u never said 6 months, so i apologize, but once again, these are items that NOONE WILL WANT, i mean DO U EVER see any traders here looking for this stuff??

i see LOTS of SEEKING posts, seeking Lou Grant, Seeking ROC, Seeking CHECKING IN, seeking FINDER OF LOST LOVES, but we NEVER see-- SEEKING ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT, or seeking last weeks THE VIEW---- never ever ever---- AND if u ever do see that, 99% of the time its from a NON - TRADER who does not trade, they just happen to like a show and missed it, so i honestly see no value in taping them

there are so many wb, upn, cable, satellite channels out there with so many things to tape, i just dont get it

and if u say it 100 more times, i still wont get it
its nothing personal, i just think u could not be more wrong on this one!

Lamont, let me try to be clear, I said the newbie can record those shows, I never said for 6 months, i said record them ocaasionally and maybe someone will need the Today show from last thursday. I never said some should advertise that they have the Today show from the last 6 months, YOU SAID THAT. But Maybe you should start an advice to newbie thread because u have the largest collection in the U.S. I want to learn from you LAMONT!! How can I expand collection?

Here is your original post. Where does it say, the newbie can, or occasionally. Check the word everything and you said it twice. lol

Those of you who have small trading collections and see things you want on other traders collection but you can;t get them because of your small collection, try this


Just start recording everything on television like Morning Talk shows, Soap Operas, Late Night Talk Shows on a Daily basis and you may see someone who missed a ep of one of those shows and may need a copy and that's how you can start expanding. Just record everthing that on cable or Network TV and Believe it will expand your collection.

You can't be like the weather and change every minute.

Harvey

Perhaps that is the real reason TvResearcher recommend taping the local news--- perhaps he DOES INDEED

"Need a Weather Man to Know Which Way the Wind Blows!"

:lol: :lol: :lol:

tvresearcher--- several of us, several times in this thread have given such advice
its been posted allready
no need to do it again

and yes, u never said 6 months, so i apologize, but once again, these are items that NOONE WILL WANT, i mean DO U EVER see any traders here looking for this stuff??

i see LOTS of SEEKING posts, seeking Lou Grant, Seeking ROC, Seeking CHECKING IN, seeking FINDER OF LOST LOVES, but we NEVER see-- SEEKING ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT, or seeking last weeks THE VIEW---- never ever ever---- AND if u ever do see that, 99% of the time its from a NON - TRADER who does not trade, they just happen to like a show and missed it, so i honestly see no value in taping them

there are so many wb, upn, cable, satellite channels out there with so many things to tape, i just dont get it

and if u say it 100 more times, i still wont get it
its nothing personal, i just think u could not be more wrong on this one!



Again there are OTHER TRADING BOARDS besides this one, and they can take my advice and go to other boards. As a Matter of fact, I will go to a certain Board right now and see did anyone look for something current like a Talk Show or Late Night Show during the month of June

Perhaps that is the real reason TvResearcher recommend taping the local news--- perhaps he DOES INDEED

"Need a Weather Man to Know Which Way the Wind Blows!"

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Now that deserves a :lol: :lol: :lol:

Harvey

Again there are OTHER TRADING BOARDS besides this one, and they can take my advice and go to other boards. As a Matter of fact, I will go to a certain Board right now and see did anyone look for something current like a Talk Show or Late Night Show during the month of June


of couse there are many other boards

i can go to a wrestling site and see what they want there---- suprise! it will all be wrestling!

i can go to a PATTY DUKE fan site, and ask what they want, SUPRISE! it will all be patty duke

so im sure, if u go to the TALK SHOW board and ask if anyone needs any talk shows--- BINGO! it will be a YES for that too!

but the guy was NOT asking about trading talk shows, or wrestling or patty dukes items, he has expressed an interest in TV SERIES and posted here about trading for TV SERIES, so once again------

the heck with it, just re-read the whole thread again- if u didnt get it the first time!

:lol:

Again there are OTHER TRADING BOARDS besides this one, and they can take my advice and go to other boards. As a Matter of fact, I will go to a certain Board right now and see did anyone look for something current like a Talk Show or Late Night Show during the month of June

Bet they can't wait for you to come over. Christmas in June, to see what goodies on tape you have for the masses. What do you figure will be the hot item their looking for? If you have Washington talking to the troops croosing the Deleware, I'm willing to give two pilots and a promo. The pilots would be Kamikazi.

Harvey

I said the newbie can record those shows, I never said for 6 months, i said just ocaasionally.
You did not say occassionally, nor did you say 6 months. You said they should record everyday and that eventually they'd have all the Tonight Show for 2006. So that's more than occassionally and more than 6 months.

As a Matter of fact, I will go to a certain Board right now and see did anyone look for something current like a Talk Show or Late Night Show during the month of June
Yes, YOU do that. But we've already established that you're one of a kind so the fact that you are now going to go and prove your point is completely irrelevant. The important thing is that no one else here, and especially not newbies to whom your advice was intended, will do that. Again, KNOW YOUR AUDIENCE and address them appropriately.

The real bottom line is: giving specific advice as to what shows to record is futile. A complete 2006 season set of The Today Show or the Tonight Show won't do diddly for the person who wants 1950s variety shows or 1960s westerns or 1970s cop shows, or 1980s sitcoms or...

Without knowing what a person wants first, no specific advice as to what s/he should record can be given. The only good advice in such situations is the general statement: "record what you want".

'Nuff said.

OK these were some of the requests on a certain Board during the month of June

I need Gunsmoke on TV LAND from 6/9

Who can get WCBS?-6/14

I need the Tonight Show from 6/5



So a newbie who likes Gunsmoke, lives in NYC, or records the Tonight Show will have the opportunity to trade which can lead to more and more trades

I also seen Tradrs on here looking for the Today Show with Kate Couric last appearance

OK these were some of the requests on a certain Board during the month of June

I need Gunsmoke on TV LAND from 6/9

Who can get WCBS?-6/14

I need the Tonight Show from 6/5



So a newbie who likes Gunsmoke, lives in NYC, or records the Tonight Show will have the opportunity to trade which can lead to more and more trades

NO that would not be how it works, the guy would get the 1 ep of Gunsmoke he needed and the other guy would get the 1 ep of the Tonight Show he needed!!! ONLY assuming that both of those 2 HAPPENED to tape the other-- And BOTH happened to want the other show-- then YES both people would do a 1 episode trade---- BUT after that
NOONE wants 1 episode of GUNSMOKE, when people like me and loren and others have the COMPLETE set of all 20 years of GUNSMOKE

so most traders try to collect and trade for stuff that more than 1 person will want--- get real, what are the odds that ANYONE else will post seeking that EXACT same episode of GUNSMOKE again? very slim

i hate to keep bickering, but it makes no sense, 99% of traders do NOT want to do 1 episode trades--- in fact-- u r the ONLY trader i know who wants to do that---- noone else

the ONLY time most people do is to complete a set, or just to see a show for themselves out of curiousity (and yes i have several like that on my list) but overall,its a big waste of everyones time

Well it seems to me if someone HAS it, as least one person was interested enough to get it...so there might be a chance somsone else does

But it seems specific one hits of things are more a specialty item.

Although as I said one mans trash is anothers treasure.

So you are going to find a fraction of people that are interested-
And then again, there will be the fraction of those who drive past garage sales wondering why peopel drag their trash out to the driveway for others to see

Different strokes for different folks eh'

I also seen Tradrs on here looking for the Today Show with Kate Couric last appearance


Harvey has the x-rated version. .... something about Katie bending over :confused: - Go back and read the archives.

NO that would not be how it works, the guy would get the 1 ep of Gunsmoke he needed and the other guy would get the 1 ep of the Tonight Show he needed!!! ONLY assuming that both of those 2 HAPPENED to tape the other-- And BOTH happened to want the other show-- then YES both people would do a 1 episode trade---- BUT after that
NOONE wants 1 episode of GUNSMOKE, when people like me and loren and others have the COMPLETE set of all 20 years of GUNSMOKE

so most traders try to collect and trade for stuff that more than 1 person will want--- get real, what are the odds that ANYONE else will post seeking that EXACT same episode of GUNSMOKE again? very slim

i hate to keep bickering, but it makes no sense, 99% of traders do NOT want to do 1 episode trades--- in fact-- u r the ONLY trader i know who wants to do that---- noone else

the ONLY time most people do is to complete a set, or just to see a show for themselves out of curiousity (and yes i have several like that on my list) but overall,its a big waste of everyones time



Lamont let's say that newbie recorded Gunsmoke from TV Land, he may email that trader who wanted it and see something on his list that's really RARE and then he could go from there and EXPAND!!!!!! That's what I did

let's say that newbie recorded Gunsmoke from TV Land, he may email that trader who wanted it and see something on his list that's really RARE and then he could go from there and EXPAND!!!!!!

You just don't get it. Most people are not interested in building a collection one episode at a time, they prefer to do it one whole, complete series, at a time. Your example, while plausible, is unlikely to occur and, more to the point, it's completely irrelevant and far removed from the reality of collecting dvds in 2006.

Truthfully Researcher, I'm more like you than most people here as I often collect a series one episode at a time because the shows I want are rare and no one else has built a dvd set of them yet. But at least I understand the concept of trading complete series and realize that that's how the majority of people do it. Why do you have such a hard time coming to terms with it?

Lamont let's say that newbie recorded Gunsmoke from TV Land, he may email that trader who wanted it and see something on his list that's really RARE and then he could go from there and EXPAND!!!!!! That's what I did

ok lets see if Billy Trades Johnny for 1 episode of Gunsmoke, then Johnny Trades Mikey for 1 episode of Mork and Mindy and so on.......

i guess that you're right, if Johnny keeps up his trades like this, 1 episode at a time, in a year or 2 he might end up with 30 or 40 episodes of random stuff, and then STILL have nothing that 99% of people want

I understand that YOU like to trade for stuff like that, and u often will only want a single episode

BUT THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF TRADERS do NOT want to trade like that and will NOT do so

so when u start out trading, the goal is TO GET STUFF THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY want-- and by people, i mean the MAJORITY of people, NOT just 1 person one time

we all love u tvresearcher and u add stuff to some of the boards, but u r simply wrong on this one, no other way to put it and if u post another 1000 times u will STILL be wrong

do u notice that so far NONE of the KNOWN traders (not counting you buddies from other parts) NONE of the KNOWN TRADERS has seconded your way of starting off?

sometimes its better to just say, MAYBE i was wrong?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You just don't get it. Most people are not interested in building a collection one episode at a time, they prefer to do it one whole, complete series, at a time. Your example, while plausible, is unlikely to occur and, more to the point, it's completely irrelevant and far removed from the reality of collecting dvds in 2006.

Truthfully Researcher, I'm more like you than most people here as I often collect a series one episode at a time because the shows I want are rare and no one else has built a dvd set of them yet. But at least I understand the concept of trading complete series and realize that that's how the majority of people do it. Why do you have such a hard time coming to terms with it?


Yeah that's how a started, One ep at a Time and in 2 years SHABOOM!!!-lol So I guess it's all about getting ONE rarirty that lots of traders want. I guess I was lucky.

Ther is no wrong or right in this case Lamont I have to disgaree.
There is however minority and majority

The majority of peopel on this site are 34.
that is the majority age.
Some younger, some older
majority is 34. By calculating the ages of the most active and dividing by the mass.

SO the majority of people are probably looking for shows within the range of recrded shows
some less recorded defiantely, but with so amny stations so many syndications so many dvd sets, pleaces like columbia house and so on
the MAJORITY of things people want they can get

And those that are rare, yes they settle for low quality or one or two episodes
but the majority are looking for full sets- becuase they can in fact be found.

That doens't mean someone is wrong for looking for one or two.
or posting they have one or two of an item
But it does mean the MAJORITY are going to scoff at it, as a waste of time.

And that is basically waht this thread is stating is that they don't have the patience, don't have the need, don't have the desire to do things this way.

So in all this retorting, your circling a bush of indiffrence.

Agree to disagree- because no one is going to see the others point on this it seems

TvResearcher you have the right to look for things one episode at a time, if yo wish.
Yo can have the Holy Grail of rare comericals-
Or the DVD sleeve that touched Milton Berles coat tails

And maybe one person will drool
But most likely based ont he age group and this majorities opinion expressed, they will not-

A more specialized group
or even specialied forum might serve that purpose more than repeating your point over and over.

Yeah that's how a started, One ep at a Time and in 2 years SHABOOM!!!-lol So I guess it's all about getting ONE rarirty that lots of traders want. I guess I was lucky.

So the newbie, if he takes your advice and gets lucky as you say"shaboom", he only has to wait two years to get a collection, and if he isn't so lucky maybe four years. Maybe w
you should tell him, your way takes two to four years. Anyone agree Solomon's way is the way to go.

Harvey

I stand by that a newbie should record these shows

The Today Show
The View
Tonight Show

So the bit about copy everything was bullcrap.

Harvey

I just went to Solomon's site. Counting only episodes of tv series and specials and Tonight Shows (but not news, sporting events or anything he doesn't list because it's too rare) he has about 250 episodes total. A lot of them are 1/2 hour shows. A newbie who gets, oh say, Lamont's 30 disc Hawaii Five-0 set would have approximately 1.5 to 2 times the amount of tradeable tv time that Researcher does, and then expand from there. One trade with that newly acquired set and in a month's time a newbie could easily have 3-4 times as much. I know, Researcher can claim quality (or bad quality, but rare, as the case may be) over quantity, but that doesn't mean anything to a newbie who is looking for series A, B, C, D and E.

Does his method work? Yes, I guess. At least it worked for him. Is it an efficient method to build a collection and one worth recommending to newbies, most of whom are looking for several complete series as evidenced by want lists we see? Absolutely not.

Wow I did not realize roasting a newbie for begging would stir this kind of mess.

Now if I had realized that it would draw out a Brain Damaged TV Researcher (or would that be a TV Researcher with Brain Damage? potatoe, potato) I would have done this much sooner.

Damage you disappoint me you show you are cleaver enough to fix a poll but not smart enough to know when you picked the wrong fight. And even then you show the stubborness to not back down but can only throw petty insults and drivel. At least make it worth the read

:lol: :lol: :lol:

ok, well i guess that applies to Lamont too

BUT it seems like some people take this board and trading WAYYYYYY to seriously

this is NOT real life folks, and its reallllll silly for people, members or moderators to get all worked up and upset and furious over the silly stuff that goes on here

if people have such empty shells of lives that they have to cuss one another out b/c so and so disagrees about what we should tape, then its time to move on and get out of moms basement, get a date and get with real life!

I know we all have opinions, but this is way silly

OK the guy was new and wanted advice--- weve all been there and some of us got good advice, and some got bad advice-----

tvresearcher, who knowing him, im sure he was giving his HONEST opinion about what was worth taping--- the majority of the traders here did NOT agree and spoke up---- NOW the mature thing to do would have been to end it there, BUT instead we get a 1000 page thread that ends up with moderators acting inappropriate, members getting angry, bad language, personal name calling and people mad!

i just dont get it? maybe my life aint that empty

and the funny thing is, that Lamont here, is always known as the Fireman b/c i put out these fires?

The majority of the board do not have interests in things like news, local sports, entertainment shows, morning shows, judge shows, soaps etc etc

there are a few people that do, so everyone can use their judgement about what to tape and not to tape

if someone wants to gamble on taping THE VIEW or THE TODAY SHOW, go for it--- i think its a waste of time, but maybe someday, someone will want it

but enough allready


and move on

This Board is for Entertainment purposes only. No serious members need apply. :lol:

Wow I did not realize roasting a newbie for begging would stir this kind of mess.

Now if I had realized that it would draw out a Brain Damaged TV Researcher (or would that be a TV Researcher with Brain Damage? potatoe, potato) I would have done this much sooner.

Damage you disappoint me you show you are cleaver enough to fix a poll but not smart enough to know when you picked the wrong fight. And even then you show the stubborness to not back down but can only throw petty insults and drivel. At least make it worth the read

:lol: It wasn't me, but if you feel better thinking it was, suit yourself. Sorry, next time I come on by, I'll have an animal act and flaming hoops as well as a long list of jokes. I hope that entertains you. :lol:

I'll see if Tj can squeeze some show girls in and some trapeeze artists for next time.

But for now, I think enough has been said ----I am sure this is keeping some people up reading the excitement, and we have to be careful of just how much excitement lilhave gets for the day...
And I need my beauty sleep.