View Full Version : Here are the main reasons Willona didn;t have the best luck with men


TVFactFan
04-13-2006, 10:03 AM
She was SHALLOW and MATERIALISTIC, period. No other way to explain it. And no one should disagree

retrochick9
04-14-2006, 12:10 AM
Welllllllll, she was a strong woman that knew what she wanted. She worked, she supported herself. So she liked to dress nice and have nice things, what's wrong with that?

TVFactFan
04-14-2006, 10:16 AM
Welllllllll, she was a strong woman that knew what she wanted. She worked, she supported herself. So she liked to dress nice and have nice things, what's wrong with that?


Nothing but you just end up being alone-lol

Ireneparalegal
04-14-2006, 01:55 PM
She was SHALLOW and MATERIALISTIC, period. No other way to explain it. And no one should disagree
in what ways was she those things? point out your views on that please.

everett552
04-14-2006, 02:52 PM
I don't see how Wilona was shallow and materialistic. She was an independent woman who had her own. She didn't need a man telling her what to do, when to do it, and how to do it. Marriage is a partnership, not a dictatorship in which she was trying to convey to those knuckleheads who kept coming to her sideways instead coming correct. We are no longer in the 20th century. Women are more educated now and make enough money to hold the fort down themselves and raise the kids too. True, every woman wants a good man, who doesn't. But if they can't accept her being independent instead of being dependent, then oh well, that's their problem. Yeah, I said it!

Ireneparalegal
04-14-2006, 03:21 PM
If she was truly materialistic, she would have married Frank in a heartbeat to get out of the ghetto and provide for her daughter and stay at home. I don't know what other definitions of materialistic there are, but what I just posted would be a good example. She thought abt Penny and up-rooting her, etc. she put her daughter first...a woman who was materialistic wouldn't even bother adopting another woman's child.

TVFactFan
04-14-2006, 05:14 PM
Well there was the ep when she didn't want to go out with Walter because of his handicap. She was all into him until she found that out.

Ireneparalegal
04-14-2006, 05:37 PM
Well there was the ep when she didn't want to go out with Walter because of his handicap. She was all into him until she found that out.
i agree that may have made her look shallow, however, I think she cleared things up when she said later on that she believed he would want to take things further and it would look like she didn't want him anymore BECAUSE of his handicap. If she knew right off the bat he would only want to be friends and have time together, she wouldn't have an issue. But that has nothing to do with her actually being shallow nor does it deal with materialism.

Brian Damage
04-14-2006, 10:38 PM
Solomon, she was in no way shallow and materialistic. You are trippin'! lol

TVFactFan
04-14-2006, 10:47 PM
Solomon, she was in no way shallow and materialistic. You are trippin'! lol


Willona said herself she wanted a Good Looking man to take care of her-lol

Brian Damage
04-14-2006, 10:52 PM
Willona said herself she wanted a Good Looking man to take care of her-lol


Irene had a perfect example, about refusing to take Frank's hand out. Willona was not materialistic and even if she was, she changed by season 5.

TVFactFan
04-14-2006, 10:57 PM
Irene had a perfect example, about refusing to take Frank's hand out. Willona was not materialistic and even if she was, she changed by season 5.


Remember she only turned him down because of Penny

Brian Damage
04-14-2006, 11:05 PM
She turned him down because she actually wanted to work, not hang out at the country club.

Ireneparalegal
04-14-2006, 11:09 PM
Remember she only turned him down because of Penny
Exactly. she put her child FIRST before herself. That is not being shallow nor materialistic. That is being a MOTHER.

retrochick9
04-14-2006, 11:20 PM
Just like that guy that wanted to marry her, you guys were talking about Frank, I think this was a different guy. He didn't want her to work and she wanted to. Then he bought the boutique for her and said she could run it and not really have to "be there that much" and she didn't want any part of that. And like everyone's been saying, shallow people don't adopt children.

retrochick9
04-14-2006, 11:31 PM
Nothing but you just end up being alone-lol
And like I said, what's wrong with that? We don't all need to be chained to someone, lol.

Ireneparalegal
04-14-2006, 11:33 PM
And like I said, what's wrong with that? We don't all need to be chained to someone, lol.
Like Willona said, "There's a difference between being alone and being lonely..." She wasn't lonely.

retrochick9
04-14-2006, 11:39 PM
Like Willona said, "There's a difference between being alone and being lonely..." She wasn't lonely.
Exactly!

Ireneparalegal
04-14-2006, 11:41 PM
She was SHALLOW and MATERIALISTIC, period. No other way to explain it. And no one should disagree
Solomon, you have yet to give any plausible examples for this thread. I expected to see alot of reasons, from you, why you stated she is materialistic and/or shallow.

TVFactFan
04-15-2006, 09:10 AM
Just like that guy that wanted to marry her, you guys were talking about Frank, I think this was a different guy. He didn't want her to work and she wanted to. Then he bought the boutique for her and said she could run it and not really have to "be there that much" and she didn't want any part of that. And like everyone's been saying, shallow people don't adopt children.


I'm mainly talking about the Pre-Penny Era. I should have narrowed it down that Willona was shallow from seasons 1 to 4.

TVFactFan
04-15-2006, 09:14 AM
Solomon, you have yet to give any plausible examples for this thread. I expected to see alot of reasons, from you, why you stated she is materialistic and/or shallow.


OK Here is a Shallow Example.


"Flo I went out with his guy last night, he was 6 foot 2, shoulders out to here, and a smile that lit up the Night, until he mugged me-lol.


Then he was saying that she didn't want to go to the wedding because he would she would end up dancing with a 5 foot guy who is BALD.

Ireneparalegal
04-15-2006, 01:52 PM
OK Here is a Shallow Example.


"Flo I went out with his guy last night, he was 6 foot 2, shoulders out to here, and a smile that lit up the Night, until he mugged me-lol.


Then he was saying that she didn't want to go to the wedding because he would she would end up dancing with a 5 foot guy who is BALD.
Do you expect her to be with a guy THAT MUGGED HER????

She was making up excuses for the wedding because she knows how it is at weddings when family/friends try to set you up with ANYBODY...instead of understanding you enjoy living your life SINGLE. How would anyone feel? I remember being single after my divorce and certain people trying to get me to "meet" certain guys etc. I made up excuses too. Reason was, I will look when I was ready...not have a guy shoved in my face and then deal with crap I wasn't ready to deal with.

Janice Johnson
04-15-2006, 02:03 PM
Just like that guy that wanted to marry her, you guys were talking about Frank, I think this was a different guy. He didn't want her to work and she wanted to. Then he bought the boutique for her and said she could run it and not really have to "be there that much" and she didn't want any part of that. And like everyone's been saying, shallow people don't adopt children.

That was Frank.:D :) :talk: :crazy: :wave:

TVFactFan
04-15-2006, 03:46 PM
Do you expect her to be with a guy THAT MUGGED HER????

She was making up excuses for the wedding because she knows how it is at weddings when family/friends try to set you up with ANYBODY...instead of understanding you enjoy living your life SINGLE. How would anyone feel? I remember being single after my divorce and certain people trying to get me to "meet" certain guys etc. I made up excuses too. Reason was, I will look when I was ready...not have a guy shoved in my face and then deal with crap I
wasn't ready to deal with.


What I was saying Irene is she was so HUNG UP on what he looked like and it turned out that he was a mugger. Maybe the guy who was 5 feet tall and Bald woudn't have mugged her at all-lol

Ireneparalegal
04-15-2006, 03:51 PM
What I was saying Irene is she was so HUNG UP on what he looked like and it turned out that he was a mugger. Maybe the guy who was 5 feet tall and Bald woudn't have mugged her at all-lol
maybe, maybe not, but her interest wasn't in finding Mr. Right...not at that moment in time. She had men in her life that for one reason or another were not good men. I don't blame her. A woman who has dealt with a "bad" man is either going to be careful or is going to jump into the arms of the same kinda man she just got rid of. The mind of a woman is nothing to be messing with.

TVFactFan
04-15-2006, 03:56 PM
maybe, maybe not, but her interest wasn't in finding Mr. Right...not at that moment in time. She had men in her life that for one reason or another were not good men. I don't blame her. A woman who has dealt with a "bad" man is either going to be careful or is going to jump into the arms of the same kinda man she just got rid of. The mind of a woman is nothing to be messing with.


Well you have to admit that James was right when he said "Willona's problem is she that she is too picky and women play hard to get they don't get GOT-LOL

Ireneparalegal
04-15-2006, 04:00 PM
Well you have to admit that James was right when he said "Willona's problem is she that she is too picky and women play hard to get they don't get GOT-LOL
She has a right to be picky. she wasn't picky the first time she got married and look what happened. I was picky too. I deserve to be. I have alot to offer a man and I am not abt to just give it to any person. I gave up a boyfriend who was materialistic and always talking abt his money: BORING!!!!!!

TVFactFan
04-15-2006, 04:03 PM
She has a right to be picky. she wasn't picky the first time she got married and look what happened. I was picky too. I deserve to be. I have alot to offer a man and I am not abt to just give it to any person. I gave up a boyfriend who was materialistic and always talking abt his money: BORING!!!!!!


Well don't act like you don' know why your ex boyfriend always talked about his money