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crystaldawn
03-17-2006, 05:02 PM
She was the brunette who vanished from her apartment complex and there were supposed sightings of her at a biker bar. Here's an interesting article about her killer. Apparently his death sentence was thrown out but in another article I read last year he pled guilty in order to receive a life sentence (instead of a possible death penalty sentence again). Her body has never been found.

http://venus.soci.niu.edu/~archives/ABOLISH/rick-halperin/dec04/0271.html

mercy1825
05-24-2006, 01:33 PM
HEY!

I wonder if that Gloria lady who was so certain she saw Dede in the biker bar testified in court that she saw Dede after the murder supposedly occurred?

Had she done so, she would have been a witness for the defense. She is helping a convicted rapist and murderer because she doesn't want to admit she was flat out wrong in her belief that Dede was in her bar?!?!?

Anyone have any opinions?

crystaldawn
05-24-2006, 04:32 PM
The article isn't very clear but I do think the bartender truly believed she saw Dede (of course she was wrong). I can't imagine she would testify it was still her she saw after Reddish confessed or you're right she would be helping his defense. I wonder if the defense attorney's just entered her transcript in as evidence when they were trying to claim he was innocent. Makes you wonder if the defense attorney's knew all along he was guilty. At least the creep will die in prison as he'll have to serve at least 85 years on both convictions until he's eligible for parole.

kadrmas15
05-29-2006, 08:02 PM
Well I found a link to Charles Reddish's file with the New Jersey Department of Corrections. Reddish is currently 45 years old and is serving his time at a prison in Camden County, New Jersey. It was kind of confusing the way the state lists the charges but appearantly the earlier charges he was convicted of in which he received a maximum penalty of life in prison were dropped. On July 29th, 2005 Reddish pled guilty to one count of murder and was resentenced in which he would become eligible for parole after 30 years and would be released if still alive in 60 years which is 99.9 percent not to be as Reddish would be around 105 years old. Here is the link:
https://www6.state.nj.us/DOC_Inmate/details?x=1055420&n=0

Rosaecrucian
06-15-2006, 07:31 AM
This is an interesting case and I have seen it on Lifetime recently. This case is "case in point" of what many psychological studies have found; and that is eye witnesses are NOTORIOUSLY unreliable in murder cases or in any other type of case. Eye witness testimony needs to be taken with a grain of salt, especially when it involves the identification of strangers.

And the bartender wonders why the girl at the biker bar would shake her head in bemusement when she was asked repeatedly if she was "Dede." The unknown girl problably thought the bartender had been drinking too much of her own product. ;)

TheCars1986
03-21-2015, 11:20 AM
Two things came into my mind when rewatching this one today:

-The whole scenario that Dede was abducted and paraded around by bikers was humorous. Not that it was explicitly said in the segment, but it was implied.
-I wonder just who in fact this "Laurie" woman was. That was almost as interesting as the disappearance of Dede, IMO. "Laurie" went to the biker bar in NJ, saying she had to get to Florida. The brother of Dede started getting calls from people in Florida saying they had seen Dede, but it was in fact probably "Laurie". Then "Laurie" resurfaces a year later at the same biker bar in NJ. I wonder if "Laurie" was either a prostitute or drug user, possibly homeless. Probably why they could never verify her identity.

alfiechat
05-11-2015, 07:51 AM
Bumping an old thread, but did anyone catch this case on On the case with Paula Zahn last night>?

Kane
05-11-2015, 08:50 AM
Bumping an old thread, but did anyone catch this case on On the case with Paula Zahn last night>?

I did. Although OTCWPZ noted that there were alleged sightings of Dede following her disappearance, it did not specifically mention her supposed appearance at a bar (which UM mentioned).

xxxxmattxxxx69
05-11-2015, 01:30 PM
The Farina update showed Greg Webb footage. It was really weird

tarheelslim
05-12-2015, 10:53 AM
Bumping an old thread, but did anyone catch this case on On the case with Paula Zahn last night>?

It was brutal.

That guy was a monster.

CantThinkOfAName
08-31-2015, 06:41 PM
Saw it watching UM today. Something doesn't add up. They never found the body. There were phone calls made to the family who they believe to be her. The bartender who said she saw her at the bar all the time. The biker who said he gave her a ride. Something isn't right. How do you explain away all that? and that confession could have been a false one.

TheCars1986
09-01-2015, 02:05 PM
Saw it watching UM today. Something doesn't add up. They never found the body. There were phone calls made to the family who they believe to be her. The bartender who said she saw her at the bar all the time. The biker who said he gave her a ride. Something isn't right. How do you explain away all that? and that confession could have been a false one.

They actually brought up the "Lori" woman at Reddish's trial, IIRC. They attempted to use it as a defense that she was still alive and that he never actually murdered her. But it was brought out that the "Lori" woman was asked several times if she was Dede, and denied it every time. "Lori" appears to be someone who just looked like Dede.

James T
06-27-2018, 02:20 PM
Another sure it was her eyewitness.

MissTree
04-01-2019, 10:53 AM
Yeah, he probably killed her. But until there is a body, it's hard to completely rule out that she's alive.

Could he have confessed to the crime because he thought it would lessen his sentence in the othrr crime he was charged with?

Latka Gravas
12-02-2020, 12:52 AM
This Dede Rosenthal case is sad & puzzling.

Just because the maintenance man confessed to killing her & dumping her in a specific place doesn't make it true - especially given that they never found the body. That being said, why would the guy confess to a heinous crime like this if it wasn't true?! Was he mentally ill/deranged?! For what it's worth, according to Unsolved Mysteries Wiki, his nick-name was "Crazy Eddie."

https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Dede_Rosenthal

And, if he did indeed kill her - then who was the woman seen in the biker bar in two occasions?! It's possible that the woman interviewed on UM (who worked at the bar) mis-identified her as Dede. After all, she had never met Dede & only knew of her case due to the missing persons photo.

MediaHoarder
04-20-2023, 06:08 PM
Watched this one last night, so much to say.

First, everyone jumping on the "eyewitnesses are always wrong" bandwagon, this is a prime case of where the eyewitnesses may well be right.

Although this was ostensibly "solved" there is nothing to base that on but the confession of a man who later recanted and never could produce the body. That he confessed is not really indicative of much. He was a worker at the complex and would have known she went missing. He clearly had a few screws loose based on his other activities, so a false confession seems plausible for whatever deranged reason.

Also problematic is that few details at the scene indicated any kind of struggle or injury. And there was no indication of death, despite the fact that the body supposedly laid there for 2 days, which in most cases would have left telltale signs.

And of course, one has to square 2 phone calls and 2 sightings with a confession that does not explain any of them. Having some kind of breakdown followed by a period living as a transient seems plausible enough.

I think I would classify this one as "unsolved" still.