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ghd
02-27-2006, 06:33 PM
Anyone who wants WKRP on DVD in season sets post here I mean I am someone who does not care if it's the original music I just want it out. I am just mad that FOX won't give it to us. So post if u want it

dlemond
03-02-2006, 03:40 PM
Anyone who wants WKRP on DVD in season sets post here I mean I am someone who does not care if it's the original music I just want it out. I am just mad that FOX won't give it to us. So post if u want it

Of course I want it on DVD.

But I am hesitant to say "even without original music" because if it comes out that way there is no chance it will ever be released with it.

They are not going to release 2 sets.

And no matter what anybody says, the music problem can be overcome, there are examples of other music heavy shows- Freaks and Geeks for instance- that came out.

So if this music thing takes another 10 years and then is guaranteed to come out, I'd rather wait. Because if they release DVDs without original music now, that's all you're gonna get.

APPLEI
03-03-2006, 07:09 AM
i would pay twice as much to have WKRP IN CINCINNATI released with original music!
SHOUT!FACTORY has proven it can be done.

atcguy77
03-07-2006, 04:24 AM
If a WKRP DVD set is released, I would have to agree that it MUST have the original music. In the past ten years, there have been a number of times that the altered show aired for a while -- TV Land, Nick at Night, etc. I hear it aired in Canada for a while. So the opportunity to make videotaped copies from TV for one's personal collection has come and gone, but what the people seem to asking for here, including myself, is the entire show (not the "trim-it-to-stuff-in-more-commercials" version) with the ORIGINAL music. Those of us who saw the shows when they first aired in the '70s and '80s know that many/most of the jokes get their strength from the music playing in the background. A few years ago I did videotape several shows with the "wrong" music, but I would still be willing to pay for the original shows. Not hundreds of dollars per season, mind you, but as much or a maybe even a little more than the price of a season of MASH or Frasier.

xsntrk
03-30-2006, 11:53 PM
This evening, I came across a few websites offering the entire series on DVD, with original music. However, not being familiar with any of the sites and knowing that Fox owns the right, I'm wondering if this is an elaborate scam. Anybody know anything regarding these DVD sets?

Larry Surrell
03-31-2006, 09:49 PM
xsntrk,

I don't think those sites are a scam, but they're selling bootleg copies of the show; probably from VHS recordings of the syndicated episodes. I considered buying a set myself but the high price, not knowing the quality of the video and not knowing if they're episodes with original or replacement music kept me from making the purchase. If anybody here has bought this set in question I for one would appreciate a review.

dlemond,

I love your avatar! I used to watch WPIX a lot during that period and remember before they were 24 hours they used to sign off at night with a great jazz version of "I'll Take Manhattan". I still have a blue satin 11 Alive jacket in my closet!

Jrnygrl
04-01-2006, 10:23 PM
I want it with the original music, some how it would take away from the feel of the show if they put in generic music. Its like those ringtones that aren't the real music.

Although I would take the show anyway they give it long as they put it on DVD.:wave:

robyrob
04-06-2006, 09:15 PM
I very badly want this show on DVD - with all the music intact.

i also want to go to a monkey rodeo.

John Carovella
04-13-2006, 01:02 AM
I very badly want this show on DVD - with all the music intact.

Me too and I'd be willing to pay up to around 50 or 60 dollars for a full season set. I do have the MTM 3 video set and a video of my favorite episodes taped off Canadian tv but like others have said it's just not right without the original music. Not to mention all the bits cut for time. I'm hoping that one day Shout Factory will be able to do this. I've bought many fine DVD releases from them already and know they could do a great job on WKRP.

atcguy77
04-13-2006, 05:31 PM
This evening, I came across a few websites offering the entire series on DVD, with original music. However, not being familiar with any of the sites and knowing that Fox owns the right, I'm wondering if this is an elaborate scam. Anybody know anything regarding these DVD sets?


xsntrk,

If you can still contact these sources, you might send them an e-mail politely asking what evidence they can present to verify that these are the original show with the original music. If these are copies of the show they videotaped at home way back then, then perhaps they can offer some proof, like leaving in a commercial or two that would only be typical for that day, like an ad for "the new 1980 Ford Mustang" or something. I've done this at least a couple of times; once to reveal that the seller thought he bought an honest set of shows, but apparently didn't. Also, the shows should be something like 27 or 28 minutes long (without commercials) instead of the current 22 or 23 minutes that half hour shows are broadcast.

Tony M
04-16-2006, 10:58 PM
Here's what I know....if these are truly original run, the run time is either 24:30 or 25:00. I know this because I had made a trade with a fellow who had the original series taped on an ancient Betamax machine, and they included the original CBS voiceovers/teasers during the end credits. Unfortunately, I have only 8 episodes and the quality is not great.

As a member of the WKRP Yahoo group, I put together a set of episodes from the first syndication run in 1983. These are not complete, but are as close to original as are in circulation, as far as I know. How do I know they are from the first syndication run? I taped them myself, from WGN-TV in Chicago back in 1983 when I got my first VHS machine. The run time on these is only 22:30, so 2 minutes (or so) was shaved from each episode. The bad news is that I recorded them in SLP (6-hour) mode, the good news is that I used a very high quality Maxell tape for the series.

I also know that a DVD set of the series with truly all-original music exists, but does not circulate. Don't ask me how, but I know. Perhaps one day....

But I disagree with those who believe the original series with all original music will ever be released. Even "Freaks and Geeks" had to make exceptions. They did their best, but made a few concessions when rights could not be acquired. WKRP was truly swamped with music, by comparison. While I have no doubt that Shout Factory has the best chance of accomplishing this, I don't believe even they can pull it off.

Just my $ .02.

robyrob
04-22-2006, 07:12 PM
But I disagree with those who believe the original series with all original music will ever be released. Even "Freaks and Geeks" had to make exceptions. They did their best, but made a few concessions when rights could not be acquired. WKRP was truly swamped with music, by comparison. While I have no doubt that Shout Factory has the best chance of accomplishing this, I don't believe even they can pull it off.

Just my $ .02.sure sure, i can buy that, but what do you think my chances are of ever seeing a LIVE monkey rodeo then?

KissMyGrits
04-28-2006, 11:34 AM
Fox very well may be working on getting the rights to the songs. One of my favorite shows of all time (Moonlighting) was just released with the original songs. For the longest time it looked as though they were either going to release it without the songs, or they were not going to release it at all. Finally everything worked out and they are releasing the seasons on DVD.

Never give up hope!!

APPLEI
04-30-2006, 11:24 AM
Fox very well may be working on getting the rights to the songs. One of my favorite shows of all time (Moonlighting) was just released with the original songs. For the longest time it looked as though they were either going to release it without the songs, or they were not going to release it at all. Finally everything worked out and they are releasing the seasons on DVD.

Never give up hope!!
who knows
maybe thats why WKRP in cincinnati isn't currently availiable for syndication so FOX can remaster all of the episodes
i can always have hope

digitalmonkey
07-06-2006, 09:12 PM
I'm certain WKRP will be commercially released on DVD in the future.

We may have to wait until all the music enters the public domain though. :D

APPLEI
07-06-2006, 09:25 PM
We may have to wait until all the music enters the public domain though. :D
when will the music enter public domain?

robyrob
07-07-2006, 12:33 PM
when will the music enter public domain?
about another hundred years. :(

gilligan fanatic
07-13-2006, 11:55 AM
I don't get why the VHS' could be sold and not DVD's.

http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/P/076701135X.01._AA140_SCMZZZZZZZ_V1057194569_.jpg

dlemond
07-13-2006, 12:41 PM
I don't get why the VHS' could be sold and not DVD's.

http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/P/076701135X.01._AA140_SCMZZZZZZZ_V1057194569_.jpg

I have some of the vhs tapes.
Between them there are only these episodes:

Pilot
Pilot pt 2
Hold Up
Fish Story
Who is Gordon Sims?
The Doctor's Daughter
Filthy Pictures, Pt1
Filthy Pictures, Pt 2
Bah Humbug
A Date With Jennifer

All the music is replaced.

One tape called 'WKRP Classics' has original music.

It only has 3 episodes Pilot pt 1, Fish Story and Turkeys Away. 'Pilot' though has a cut at the ending. It's the only place you will find "Turkeys Away" on a commercial release though.


If they released the DVD with all replaced music - and cut scenes where you can't just replace it due to the situation - I think they fear that no one will buy it or there will be a huge backlash to just release it the right way.

Which they can bypass by continuing to try to find a way to release it with the original music. Which sadly may never happen.

gilligan fanatic
07-13-2006, 02:09 PM
I have some of the vhs tapes.
Between them there are only these episodes:

Pilot
Pilot pt 2
Hold Up
Fish Story
Who is Gordon Sims?
The Doctor's Daughter
Filthy Pictures, Pt1
Filthy Pictures, Pt 2
Bah Humbug
A Date With Jennifer

All the music is replaced.

One tape called 'WKRP Classics' has original music.

It only has 3 episodes Pilot pt 1, Fish Story and Turkeys Away. 'Pilot' though has a cut at the ending. It's the only place you will find "Turkeys Away" on a commercial release though.


If they released the DVD with all replaced music - and cut scenes where you can't just replace it due to the situation - I think they fear that no one will buy it or there will be a huge backlash to just release it the right way.

Which they can bypass by continuing to try to find a way to release it with the original music. Which sadly may never happen.

oh ok, I didn't realize the music on the tapes were cut. That makes a lot more sense now

dlemond
07-13-2006, 02:45 PM
oh ok, I didn't realize the music on the tapes were cut. That makes a lot more sense now

Not necessarily cut, usually replaced with generic music.

It's a buzzkill and almost insulting.

They have replaced- on tape and tv- actual dialogue of Johnny saying the name of songs using a voice impersonator. That really sucks.

James28
07-19-2015, 12:48 AM
Thinking about the time when a DVD release of WKRP in Cincinnati appeared all but impossible due to music-licensing issues:

Cold Case, a police procedural drama which originally aired on CBS (the same network that aired WKRP in Cincinnati) from 2003 to 2010, is currently not available on DVD.

Cold Case, which was set in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, dealt with unsolved crimes from the past, or crimes that are no longer being actively investigated by the police department – called "cold cases". The crimes depicted on CC were spread out over much of the previous century, with some as recent as a year or two before the episode's setting/airing, and others dating as far back as the 1910s. Almost each episode of CC makes extensive use of era-appropriate music for flashbacks to the year in question, though the series had a few original songs throughout its seven-year run. A reason that CC is not available on DVD is that securing the rights for the series' extensive use of extensive use of period music would prove to be problematic. I believe that this problem would be similar to WKRP's (WKRP extensively used licensed/copyrighted music throughout its run).