View Full Version : "The Rivals" episode edited on the dvd


vashti1999
02-05-2006, 10:47 PM
A music rights issue. I might be mistaken, but I could swear this was the episode where Prince's "I Wanna Be Your Lover" played when Willis dances with Lurlene. That instrumental mess they're dancing to on the dvd definitely wasn't part of the original broadcast. Can anyone who recorded this episode from tv confirm this?

Dean Winchester
02-05-2006, 11:05 PM
I haven't gotten that far yet, but what a shame!! The Rivals is one of the best season 2 episodes IMO, plus, it aired the week I was born :lol:

vashti1999
02-05-2006, 11:12 PM
Not just because of the Prince song, but this has always been one of my favorite episodes: (Arnie Parnie). The Father and Son Day episode too. DS got into a good groove with these episodes.

Dean Winchester
02-05-2006, 11:36 PM
yep, it was nice seeing more Willis and Kimberly storylines whereas the first season was all about Arnold and his precociousness, which was fun but I liked seeing the others getting their storylines instead of just being secondary to Arnold

vashti1999
02-06-2006, 02:07 AM
As I think about it more, if it wasn't "I Wanna Be Your Lover" it was "Sexy Dancer," but one of those two Prince songs were played on a DS episode, and I'm pretty sure this was the one

Dean Winchester
02-06-2006, 02:20 AM
who would be the one to okay the usage? Prince or Warner Bros.? I know the Golden Girls episode where Sophia sings along to Purple Rain made it to the DVD with no troubles.

actually, the fact that DS was using Prince songs in 1979 showed it was quite ahead of its time

vashti1999
02-08-2006, 03:57 PM
As least the "Guess Who" episode seems to be intact. You can hear both "Don't Stop Til You Get Enough" and "Off The Wall" from Michael Jackson playing during this episode. I guess maybe Mike needed the money???

TVFactFan
02-08-2006, 04:34 PM
As least the "Guess Who" episode seems to be intact. You can hear both "Don't Stop Til You Get Enough" and "Off The Wall" from Michael Jackson playing during this episode. I guess maybe Mike needed the money???


So are you saying on the DVD they were not dancing to the Prince song?

TVFactFan
02-08-2006, 04:35 PM
A music rights issue. I might be mistaken, but I could swear this was the episode where Prince's "I Wanna Be Your Lover" played when Willis dances with Lurlene. That instrumental mess they're dancing to on the dvd definitely wasn't part of the original broadcast. Can anyone who recorded this episode from tv confirm this?


yes that's the song they were dancing too on my uncut version from Comcast. I just didn;t know who sung the song when I watched the episode.

vashti1999
02-08-2006, 04:44 PM
yes that's the song they were dancing too on my uncut version from Comcast. I just didn;t know who sung the song when I watched the episode.


Thank you for confirming that. Yeah, the song on the dvd is not what was originally used in that episode, they changed it. I remembered a Prince song and I was pretty sure this was the episode but I wasn't 100% positive.

Dean Winchester
02-08-2006, 04:49 PM
As least the "Guess Who" episode seems to be intact. You can hear both "Don't Stop Til You Get Enough" and "Off The Wall" from Michael Jackson playing during this episode. I guess maybe Mike needed the money???

Michael probably was "well, Arnold and Willis were both pretty young then... you can use the music for free" :lol:

vashti1999
02-08-2006, 05:01 PM
Michael probably was "well, Arnold and Willis were both pretty young then... you can use the music for free" :lol:

That's what got him into the mess he's in now in the first place.

As for Prince, I think it's him who control publishing rights as opposed to Warner. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one who kept the song from being included on the dvd. It would be cool if he wasn't that controlling and let the few seconds worth of his song appear on the dvd.

TVFactFan
02-08-2006, 05:04 PM
That's what got him into the mess he's in now in the first place.

As for Prince, I think it's him who control publishing rights as opposed to Warner. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one who kept the song from being included on the dvd. It would be cool if he was that controlling and let the few seconds worth of his song appear on the dvd.



Now you have me curious about what they were dancing to on the DVD instead of the Prince Song-lol

vashti1999
02-08-2006, 05:11 PM
Now you have me curious about what they were dancing to on the DVD instead of the Prince Song-lol

It's just some weird instrumental music, just heavy beats. Even if I was wrong about the Prince song, I knew when this music started playing that it was something that wasn't originally in that episode. That same scene is included on the Valentine's flashback episode, and it's the same instrumental music. So they replaced the music on both The Rivals episode and the Valentine's flashback episode.

Dean Winchester
02-08-2006, 05:11 PM
That's what got him into the mess he's in now in the first place.

As for Prince, I think it's him who control publishing rights as opposed to Warner. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the one who kept the song from being included on the dvd. It would be cool if he was that controlling and let the few seconds worth of his song appear on the dvd.

it's still strange that they had no issue with Golden Girls season 1 on DVD where Sophia sings along to Purple Rain on her headset yet his music on DS season 2 wasn't used. Was it because Golden Girls is a bigger hit in reruns, therefore Buena Vista was willing to pay more to clear it than Sony could?

vashti1999
02-08-2006, 05:17 PM
My post should say "if he wasn't that controlling".


Maybe there's a difference between a sung song and a recording? I don't know, just throwing that out. Maybe Prince is a Golden Girls fan...

Dean Winchester
02-08-2006, 05:22 PM
My post should say "if he wasn't that controlling".


Maybe there's a difference between a sung song and a recording? I don't know, just throwing that out. Maybe Prince is a Golden Girls fan...

actually, it looks like "sung songs" are an issue too, with "Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da" not being permitted to be used on the Life Goes On DVD, which was the theme song. While "Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da" was a Beatles song, the version used as the LGO theme was recorded exclusively for the show and sung by Patti LuPone, and even then, they wouldn't permit it to be used on the DVD, so I wonder if it has more to do than just the original recorded version of the song.

TVFactFan
02-08-2006, 07:47 PM
it's still strange that they had no issue with Golden Girls season 1 on DVD where Sophia sings along to Purple Rain on her headset yet his music on DS season 2 wasn't used. Was it because Golden Girls is a bigger hit in reruns, therefore Buena Vista was willing to pay more to clear it than Sony could?


I think it was because Sophia was singing the song and not PRINCE-LOL-LOL