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Mr.Clairvoyant 12-28-2005, 09:06 PM Does anyone know if she has ever been found it has been what I believe 5 years now and her family still has no clue as to where she could be.. I am almost certain that foul play was involve.. But I am not sure that the fiancé (Bobby Webster) was responsible. It is also funny that you don't hear nothing from him it is only the family that are still vocal about her being found. I mean what would he have to gain from it.. But it was odd how her Truck ended from the laundry matt in Richmond, IN and then later found in Dayton OH with the clean clothes folded in the back.. and how he was acting at the jewelry store trying to return that ring almost as if he was certain that she was not coming back. The Circumstances of Disappearance are very odd... Any body has any ideas?
Chris
Tony Ballesteros 12-28-2005, 09:40 PM i saw that one today, the fiance imo is probably involved. he was trying to get money back on the ring, and the wedding hall, plus according to police he failed a polygraph.
it was odd that her truck was found in a complex where her exboyfriend/babys father lived too.
The last time there was any news on the case was this past summer, when they acknowledged the fourth anniversary of her disappearance.
Because of her fiance's suspicious behavior after her disappearance, I suspect the fiance was involved. I mean, when he canceled the forthcoming wedding, in lieu of delaying it, something was amiss. To me, it's as though he knew Nicqui wasn't coming back.
The segment briefly mentioned that the cops are looking into other suspects, but no names were given. But that's not unexpected. As a general rule, when you're investigating a case, you don't want to be too quick to publicly name every potential suspect (especially when there's a complete lack of evidence against any given suspect).
crystaldawn 12-29-2005, 01:20 PM I agree with most everything you said Mr. Clairvoyant about her disappearance. The fiance did things to make himself seem suspicious and I could see him parking her vehicle in the ex's parking lot to draw attention on him as a suspect, but what motive would be have? If he wanted out of the upcoming marriage he could have gotten out a lot other simple ways than abducting her and doing something with her. On the other hand I can envision a scenario where the guys that were harassing her at the laundromat abducted her. Wasn't she going back to the laundromat later that day? I wonder if those guys knew she would have to come back so waited for her. They could have easily overpowered her after she put her neatly folded clothes in the car and the three took off in her vehicle. It did say that apartment complex was huge where her car was found and it wasn't found in the parking lot by her ex's apartment so it could have been a strange coincidence and maybe the abductors lived there as well. It did also say that a stereo and other things had been vandalized in her car and this would seem to point away from the fiance as well. I don't have a clear cut idea of what happened and agree it is a very strange case.
Tony Ballesteros 12-29-2005, 01:41 PM the two mystery men overpowering her is problematic. that they would have waited specifically for her to comeback, even thought they didnt know if or when she would. its possible they were hanging around, and siezed the oppurtunity, so to speak.
someone would have probably seen this happen, or had at least reported the two men hanging around.
this to me seems like a random act.
the
LooksLikeCRicci 12-30-2005, 09:30 PM Because of her fiance's suspicious behavior after her disappearance, I suspect the fiance was involved. I mean, when he canceled the forthcoming wedding, in lieu of delaying it, something was amiss. To me, it's as though he knew Nicqui wasn't coming back.
Totally. That was completely suspect. This case is so sad. Did the UM episode mention that the boyfriend had any motives for Nicqui's disappearance?
Totally. That was completely suspect. This case is so sad. Did the UM episode mention that the boyfriend had any motives for Nicqui's disappearance?
Apparently not. If you read Niqui's profile at the official UM site, you will notice that the contents of the profile include the following excerpt: Some continue to speculate that her fiance had something to do with her disappearance. But what possible motive did he have? And what about Niqui's ex-boyfriend? He cooperated fully and passed a polygraph test.
The cops working on the case might have come up with ideas of possible motives, but didn't share them with UM or other media outlets.
http://www.pal-item.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060107/NEWS01/601070301/1008
I found a new article on the case. It mentions that yesterday (January 6) was Niqui's birthday. The article also discusses how Niqui's family has been coping of late.
If Niqui is alive she would be 33 years old. She was 28 when she disappeared in 2001.
PracTz 01-07-2006, 07:21 PM Poor child having to grow up not knowing what became of her mother- or even where to find her! And, to think ,her aunts say SHE is their rock! I pray they do find Niqui soon and whoever is responsible for her disappearance gets justice meted on them!
http://www.pal-item.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060107/NEWS01/601070301/1008
I found a new article on the case. It mentions that yesterday (January 6) was Niqui's birthday. The article also discusses how Niqui's family has been coping of late.
If Niqui is alive she would be 33 years old. She was 28 when she disappeared in 2001.
Tony Ballesteros 01-07-2006, 10:57 PM Niqui McCown
Mr.Clairvoyant 04-17-2008, 10:40 AM In my quest to find more information on this case I found this link
http://www.whiotv.com/news/14331115/detail.html
LooksLikeCRicci 04-23-2008, 05:56 PM ...and he was a POLICE OFFICER?
Wow. Interesting find. Thanks, Mr. Clairvoyant! :)
Mr.Clairvoyant 04-26-2008, 12:00 PM here is a another link with a little more details regarding the police officer being a person of intrest i am still continuing to search for other sources of information
http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2007/10/18/ddn101807swint.html
Mr.Clairvoyant 04-26-2008, 12:14 PM TROTWOOD, OHIO — Officer Tommy L. Swint resigned under pressure from the Trotwood police Aug. 31 after a Richmond, Ind., detective informed local authorities that Swint is a suspect in the 2001 disappearance of Marilyn Renee “Niqui” McCown, city officials confirmed Friday.
Swint, 40, of Harrison Twp. was sworn in as a Trotwood officer July 16. He also was a corrections officer at the Montgomery Education and Pre-Release Center, a state prison, from May 1994 until he resigned effective Aug. 21. McCown of Richmond also worked at the prison.
“He was a suspect in a deal we had here and has been for many years,” said Capt. Greg Pipes of the Richmond police investigations unit. “We had tried to talk to him (about the McCown case). We haven’t been able to do anything with it yet. But we haven’t given up.”
Pipes said a Richmond detective visited Trotwood police officials shortly before Swint’s resignation and told them of Swint’s connection with the case. Trotwood officials said Swint was given a chance to resign or be terminated. Swint was a probationary employee at the time.
Public Safety Director Mike Etter said “it was a situation where he should have disclosed more to us up front (during his job interview). He may be 100 percent innocent.”
Swint hasn’t been arrested or charged in the case. He could not be reached for comment.
McCown, then 28, was last seen July 22, 2001, at a Richmond laundromat. On Nov. 3, 2001, police found her SUV parked at the Meadows of Catalpa, a Trotwood apartment complex where McCown lived in 1997 with a boyfriend. Her laundry was found folded on the back seat.
Pipes said Swint and McCown knew each other from working at the prison. McCown also started there in 1994, as an account clerk in the business office, according to the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction.
Richmond police have said they believe McCown left the laundromat and went to Dayton to meet someone she knew from the prison.
A single mother, McCown was attending Sinclair Community College and planning her wedding when she vanished.
killgas20 04-26-2008, 06:45 PM Wow. That's quite a commute from Richmond to Downtown Dayton. I know where that apartment complex is. I don't know if that if UM filmed there or not for their story. The area did not look familiar when I watched it. I will have to watch again now that I know this information.
crystaldawn 04-26-2008, 07:03 PM Interesting. Another article concerning this quotes Niqui's sister as saying Niqui and the police officer in question were "very close friends".
seniorabreu 12-26-2008, 03:10 PM Found this update
New information gives twist to cold case
Posted: July 17, 2008 03:13 PM EDT
Updated: July 17, 2008 11:00 PM EDT
Marilyn "Niqui" McCown
Payton Johnston was nine years old when her mother disappeared.
Barbara "Dolly" McCown wants her daughter to come home.
Michelle McCown Luster, Niqui's sister
Bobby Webster, Niqui's fiancé
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Richmond - Next week marks the 7th anniversary since an Indiana mother vanished just weeks before her wedding.
Police presume the worst. Now 13 Investigates uncovers a secret between sisters that's led to a major turn in the case.
Payton Johnston is dreaming one day her mother will come home. She was nine years old when Marilyn "Niqui" McCown vanished seven years ago.
"I knew she wouldn't leave me," the 16-year old said with sad eyes as she talked about growing up without her mother's guidance.
Weather worn pictures of the striking 28-year-old mother sit faded outside the family's Richmond home. The heartache inside is fresh with another anniversary at the door.
"I just want her home. And if they've taken her and did something with her they ain't got to confess, just tell me where they laid her," said Niqiu's mother, Barbara "Dolly" McCown. "Just tell me where she's at," she begged as tears flowed down her cheeks.
Barbara McCown last saw her daughter July 22, 2001. It was a sweltering day, three weeks before Niqui's wedding.
That Sunday Niqui went to do laundry blocks from her mother's house after attending church and pre-marriage counseling with her fiancé, Bobby Webster.
Webster strongly rebuffs any thoughts that Niqui had cold feet about the pending nuptials and deliberately ran away.
"No, that's impossible because if you would have seen how much effort she put into it you know. This is what she wanted," insisted Webster.
Initially Niqui's family thought she was abducted from the laundromat where some men had been harassing her.
Richmond Police eliminated that theory based on surveillance tape from a nearby convenience store.
"When she's leaving the facility there I can tell she's under no duress whatsoever," said Detective Roger Redmond, of the Richmond Police Department. "I can probably give you a 100-percent surety she was not taken from the laundromat," he told 13 Investigates.
Instead, questions surround Niqui's fiancé.
According to Redmond, "He didn't come across as your typical grieving fiance of a missing girl. I don't know that you can tell the truth and show that you're lying on a polygraph test," he said of Bobby Webster.
Investigators readily admit there's no evidence against Bobby Webster. But days after Niqui went missing, he cancelled the wedding and tried to get her wedding band deposit.
"I hadn't been to work in like two weeks and I was just grabbing extra money that we had out there," countered Webster. He said he was an easy target. "I believe they were looking at me because they didn't know any other direction to go. I'm the obvious choice. I'm the fiancé," he added.
Detective Redmond admitted, "It's been a tough case. A lot of time spent on it," he said of the seven-year investigation that has cooled in regards to Bobby Webster.
Part of the difficulty is tracking a case that crosses state lines into Ohio.
Police now think the answers to this complex missing person's case point to the Meadows of Catalpa, a large apartment complex in Dayton, Ohio. Investigators found Niqui McCown's GMC Jimmy on November 3, 2001, four months after her disappearance.
Niqui once lived in the Meadows of Catalpa too. Her laundry was discovered still neatly folded and undisturbed in the backseat of the truck when it was found.
The day Niqui disappeared, she called a female co-worker who lives less than a mile away. That co-worker reportedly told police Niqui intended to pick up vitamins at a nearby pharmacy.
This is where the case takes a turn.
Niqui's sister Michelle McCown Luster, now publicly reveals a guarded secret. She says it explains why Niqui frantically tried to get a hold of her the day she vanished.
"There was something going on with Niqui and she wanted to tell somebody," said McCown Luster.
The sisterly secret is about a triangle Niqui's mother and fiancé knew nothing about.
"She would always tell me I don't care what he wants, he's just like a big brother to me," explained McCown Luster referring to former Trotwood, Ohio Police Officer Tommie Swint. Swint and Niqui had worked together at a Dayton prison, the Montgomery Education and Pre-Release Center.
McCown Luster said she warned her sister about the relationship. "I kept telling her, I don't know how many times I told my sister quit taking from this man. And now she's missing and he's a person of interest," she told 13 Investigates.
In October of last year, Tommie Swint disputed his role in the case.
"Detective Redmond never told me or informed me that I was a suspect, or a person of interest," Swint said at the time from his attorney's office.
But Richmond Police aren't backing away from their previous statements when asked if Swint is a person of interest in the disappearance of Niqui McCown.
"Yes, he is," said Detective Redmond without hesitation. "We had some information on the case here that connected him with it. Tom Swint was not cooperative in the investigation," he added.
The big question: Was there a romantic relationship at any point between Tommie Swint and Niqui McCown?
Niqui's sister, bowed her head and then responded, "Okay how do I explain this? Maybe a few times it went more than just friends," said McCown Luster.
Investigators say Tommie Swint is also connected to the residence of that female co-worker Niqui called the day she went missing.
According to McCown Luster and Niqui's fiancé Bobby Webster, Swint had more than a casual friendship with the co-worker, despite his long-time marriage.
13 Investigates questioned police about the possibility of a female person of interest in this case. Detective Redmond reponded, "No comment."
McCown Luster doesn't mince words about her suspicions. "If you ask me what I think happened to my sister, I really believe Tommy Swint can give you that answer," she said.
Swint refused to speak with 13 Investigates about the case or his pending lawsuits against both the Richmond and Trotwood Police Departments.
So far, there have been no arrests.
"In a case like this when you go to court, you have to have proof. And when I go to court on this case I'll have the proof I need," said Detective Redmond, who believes the investigation is on the right track.
Niqui McCown's family prays for the proof that will lead to a suspect and help bring Niqui home soon.
"How do you close it?" questioned a distraught Barbara McCown. "How in the hell do you close it, when there's no casket?"
Anyone with information on the whereabouts of Niqui McCown, contact the Richmond Police Department at 1-765-983-7250
kadrmas15 12-26-2008, 08:19 PM Personally I always felt the fiancee was innocent in this case. Yes his behavior did draw suspicion upon himself but the fact that he failed the polygraph does not for sure mean he killed her. It does mean that he knew more than he was telling. I tend to believe that he did not kill his fiancee but that he suspected who did but was afraid that he would get in further trouble so he said nothing. This guy that Niqui worked with at the prison seems like a very good suspect. My guess is that this guy wanted more than a friendly relationship Niqui and she rebuffed him and he saw she was going to get married to Bobby Webster. This guy couldnt handle it so he abducted her and killed her. That is just my theory.
I have believed for many years that Tommy murdered Niqui. I believe that Tommy took the easy way out by killing himself. It is too bad that he was tipped off to his pending arrest because I would have loved to see him behind bars for the rest of his life for all the evil that he unleashed into this world. I know in my heart that he is responsible for the murders of more than just these two women. Tommy's "girlfriend" lived in the Meadows of Catalpa where Niqui's vehicle was recovered months after her disappearance. Nikki Brooks, who also lived at the Meadows of Catalpa, was murdered in her apartment in 2000. Her murder is still unsolved. Now that Tommy is dead, I hope that anyone who may have been too afraid to talk because of Tommy will come forward now. The Mccown and the Brooks families deserve closure.
Article from Dayton Daily News
By Doug Page and Lucas Sullivan
Staff Writers
Updated 3:51 PM Wednesday, February 3, 2010
DAYTON — A former Trotwood probationary police officer indicted today, Feb. 3, for the 1991 death of a Dayton prostitute was found dead by authorities in Alabama.
Law enforcement in Alabama were approaching the home of Tommy L. Swint just after noon and heard a single gunshot, said Ken Betz, director of the Montgomery County Coroner’s Office.
Officers entered the home and found Swint dead, Betz said. Lee County, Alabama, Sheriff’s Capt. Van Jackson said the investigation was being handled by the Alabama Bureau of Investigation. A dispatcher at the local ABI office said no further information was available.
Less than an hour before a Montgomery County grand jury returned the indictment against Swint, 43, for the December 1991 death of Tina Marie Ivery, 33.
According to the indictment, Swint is accused to have “purposefully caused” Ivery’s death. A tree-trimming crew discovered Ivery’s partially nude body Dec. 17, 1991, in a pile of trash on Dayton Liberty Road near Calumet Lane in Jefferson Twp.
Ivery had been beaten and strangled, according to the official cause of death. Her body was wrapped in two semitransparent trash bags and then wrapped in a red, white and blue quilt. She was last seen alive at about 7 p.m. Dec. 14.
Until today, no one had been charged in Ivery’s death.
Greg Flannagan, spokesman for County Prosecutor Mathias Heck, said cold case detectives took another look at the case and “uncovered new information, including DNA evidence” that led authorities to Swint.
“For the past 18 years, this case has remained unsolved,” Heck said in a statement. “Now, through the advances in forensic science, we have identified the man who killed Ms. Ivery, and he will be brought to Montgomery County to be held accountable for his actions.”
Less than an hour after the indictment was handled up an arrest warrant was issued for Swint, who was working as a security officer in Phenix City, Ala.
Swint worked for the Trotwood Police Department for less than two months in 2007. He was forced to resign when officials in Richmond, Ind., told Trotwood officials that Swint was a person of interest in the 2001 disappearance of Marilyn “Niqui” McCown.
Swint has denied involvement in McCown’s disappearance and was never charged. He and McCown were colleagues at the Montgomery Education and Pre-Release Center in Dayton.
Heck said the indictment will help Ivery’s family.
“Hopefully, the family and friends of the victim can finally look forward to closure,” he said.
economistman192 07-13-2011, 05:53 PM I am a budding psychic who uses tarot cards to explain the unexplained. I watched this UM episode for the first time and afterwards, before reading any comments here or on YouTube asked my cards several times what happened in this case. Something came through, but I kept trying to make it fit with the facts already known in this case. I was trying to decide whether it was the fiance or the ex-boyfriend. I was being shown a man who I felt she definitely knew, perhaps for many years, a close acquaintance to her, but I was clear from the 10 of cups upside down that the family didn't particularly like or trust this person. I wasn't sure the extent of the relationships, some cups reveals this might have been an affair, or an old relationship.
After I read the piece of Swint, everything made more sense. What I gathered from my reading (again, I can't prove any of this) is that Niqui had a relationship with Swint, perhaps a brief affair but nothing serious, but he became fixated and obsessed with her. I think he really had some twisted idea that she would marry him and when it became very clear that she was getting married to someone else, he was enraged with her. I did several readings and the cards suggested an argument that became explosive. My sense is that he tricked Niqui into having a talk because he had something to tell her (possibly about her fiance). She felt guilty that he was hurt and agreed to see him one last time to say goodbye, because she felt a little nostalgic and guilty (he may have helped her out at work or been kind to her in the past.) When she laughed at his request that she call of the wedding and "come back to him" even though they were never together, he went crazy, as he did with all women who he felt rejected him, and he killed her.
The fiance may have failed the polygraph because he may have suspected Swint, but was afraid to bring him up as he was an officer and that created a tension in the lie dectector test. My sense is that Niqui mentioned to her fiance some concerns about Swint, but not much more. Swint would have definitely known how to set the ex-boyfriend up. I am getting that Swint felt hurt, betrayed and unappreciated, he felt rejected and attached, and melancholy about "the good old days." I think there may have even been an issue that he wasn't invited to the wedding, and Niqui had to admit she didn't want him there causing a scene. He was a very sick man, but I think Niqui was strong and stood up to him, not allowing him to bully her. In the end, he was too strong for her.
Finally, looking at Niqui's astrological chart based on information provided online, I see that Niqui was a free spirit, very confident and not easily controlled. She had a very strong personality and would have made a great leader who inspired others with her courage. She was definitely not someone who could be held down or told what to do. The problem was with Saturn in Gemini which means she might have had problems with communication (underestimating the effects of her words, or not being aware when it might be best to say nothing.) Her lunar eclipse in Aquarius tells me that she had difficulty letting go of things that were no longer good for her, for example, a relationship with someone like Swint. My final thought is that there was a point where she knew intuitively that something was wrong with Swint or that he was dangerous, but she continued to see him. Niqui's life is not in vain because, although tragic, this is a lesson to women to trust their instincts about men who they fear may be abusive. (Again, this is just my reading...)
RIP Niqui.
TheCars1986 08-24-2011, 02:03 PM It seems fairly obvious what happened to Niqui now. The "harassers at the laundrymat abducted her" theory can easily be refuted. Here's a quote from a news article about the case from 2008:
"Initially Niqui's family thought she was abducted from the laundromat where some men had been harassing her. Richmond Police eliminated that theory based on surveillance tape from a nearby convenience store. "When she's leaving the facility there I can tell she's under no duress whatsoever," said Detective Roger Redmond, of the Richmond Police Department. "I can probably give you a 100-percent surety she was not taken from the laundromat," he told 13 Investigates."
I also don't believe that Bobby Webster (Niqui's fiance) had anything to do with the case. For one, he had an solid alibi the day she disappeared (he was trying on tuxedo's with his best man for the wedding). Secondly he never really had any motive in killing Niqui. Had he wanted out of the wedding he simply could have told her so. And he certainly wouldn't be interested in trying on tuxedos. Another reason is what Niqui's sister said in her UM interview, that only the "Devil himself" would have been able to parade around her entire family and keep up the front of the concerned fiance. Unless Bobby was one hell of an actor, I don't see how or why he would still keep in contact with the family and also continue to help look for her. Usually when a spouse kills their spouse they tend to avoid their loved ones' family. And the car that Niqui was driving when she disappeared was registered to Bobby, not such a smart choice for him (if he were truely responsible) to blatantly leave the car out in the open when he was the one registered to it. Lastly, there is zero physical or circumstantial evidence that points to Bobby being responsible. The lie detector test that Bobby took is a moot point, IMHO. According to the detective interviewed on UM Bobby only failed the one question (albeit was a crucial one), but we all know how unreliable a lie detector test can be.
The ex-boyfriend of Niqui's was eliminated by LE as a suspect. He had an airtight alibi the day she disappeared and he also cooperated fully with the investigation. It's safe to say he had nothing to do with it as well. But why was her car found in the apartment complex parking lot that he and Niqui used to share? Enter Tommy Swint.
Swint and Niqui worked together at a prison, and according to Niqui's sister these two were "more than friends" on a couple of occasions. In other words, she was having an affair with Swint. I believe the "coworker" (that UM referred to towards the end of the segment) that Niqui called from the payphone was Swint, or someone both Swint and Nicqui knew. Perhaps she set up a meeting with Swint to break off the affair once and for all, and this is what led to her death. And after he killed her, he decides to ditch her car at her ex-boyfriend's apartment complex to throw the suspicioun on him. It's safe to assume that since Swint and Niqui were having an affair that she intimated to him where she used to live with her ex-boyfriend. I think it's possible that the car was vandalized by a random theif well after Swint abandoned the car there. That would explain the broken lock on the door, and the missing stereo system. Or there's also the possibility that this was all staged by Swint to make it look like a robbery gone bad. Or it's possible that Swint ditched the car elsewhere and a carjacker happened upon it and in a remarkable coincidence abandoned it where her ex-boyfriend lived (after stealing the stereo system, etc.).
As I stated above, Niqui's sister confirmed that there was an affair and if Niqui in fact told him she wanted to end it (which seems obvious since she was making all of these wedding plans and intended on marrying Bobby Webster) this gives him a motive. He also refused to take a polygraph while the other two potential suspects both consented to one. The big clincher for Swint being responsible is that he was indicted for another murder (that took place in 1991), but before police could serve the warrant, Swint killed himself. So we may never know for certain whether or not Swint was involved in the disappearance of Niqui McCown, but IMHO all roads point to him being responsible. Unfortunately, since Niqui's sister remained tight lipped about her affair with Swint so long, he never became a POI until 2007. Had she spoke out earlier, this case may have been solved by now.
Apostapler 08-24-2011, 05:32 PM I really like your analysis TheCars1986. It is a shame that if Nicqui was having this affair, her sister didn't tell LE about it. You'd think after she disappeared and is presumed dead that the sister would have spoken up sooner. When did Swint commit suicide?
TheCars1986 08-25-2011, 11:21 AM I really like your analysis TheCars1986. It is a shame that if Nicqui was having this affair, her sister didn't tell LE about it. You'd think after she disappeared and is presumed dead that the sister would have spoken up sooner. When did Swint commit suicide?
He killed himself in 2010 when he learned that he was going to be indicited for the murder he committed in 1991. It kind of makes me angry that the investigator interviwed on UM seemed deadset on pegging the whole thing on Bobby Webster, when there was hardly any evidence suggesting his involvement other than an argument at a jewelery store.
jeneen 09-05-2011, 04:41 AM Ok I just watched the repeat of the show about Niqui McCown and her disappearance and it just disgusts me. I know that Swint guy did something to her because he couldn't stand her rejection, don't know if she had affair with him or not, I know that chapped lip, squinty eye Swint thought he was something and probaly didn't believe she was saying "Beat It!" and he killed her. Ugh it just makes me sick, she was so pretty with a lovely family although I didn't think a father exists until the show said he filed the missing persons report. The family seems nice enough but I'm sorry if I was agitated and said men were harassing me at the laundry mat down the street, my dad would've gone back down there with me regardless of me saying "it's ok", that kinda ticked me off BUT that's passed now and it won't bring her back. I hope soon something of her will turn up, people just don't disappear off the face of the earth, I get sick of folks missing. I don't believe in aliens abducting people, dang it!!
Necco 09-05-2011, 11:39 AM "More than friends on several occasions" doesn't necessarily mean an affair to me. An affair is an extended relationship. The phrase above could simply mean that she sought comfort (perhaps after the near inevitable fights that planning a wedding) in a friend. Is it cheating? Sure. Is it an affair? No. It's a person who is human using a coping skill that is not necessarily the most appropriate thing to do.
UMFaninMD 09-05-2011, 01:06 PM "More than friends on several occasions" doesn't necessarily mean an affair to me. An affair is an extended relationship. The phrase above could simply mean that she sought comfort (perhaps after the near inevitable fights that planning a wedding) in a friend. Is it cheating? Sure. Is it an affair? No. It's a person who is human using a coping skill that is not necessarily the most appropriate thing to do.
It sounds more like a "friends with benefits" relationship than a full-blown affair. Perhaps Niqui decided it was time to stop it with Swint and he refused to accept the fact and killed her, setting up her disappearance as a random robbery/kidnapping, as kardmas suggested. His suicide, while probably spurred by the indictment for another murder, makes him look extremely guilty when it comes to Niqui's disappearance.
As for the sister not disclosing this secret relationship, it seems to me Niqui's family were too focused on Bobby Webster as the prime suspect due to their argument before she vanished. While fiances/boyfriends/husbands are the most likely culprit, police need to look beyond them and explore other opportunities.
MissFit29 09-05-2011, 01:11 PM Did Niqui's ex-boyfriend still live in the apartment complex? I think it's a little odd that her Blazer would have been there for months and he wouldn't have recognized it as her car if he still lived there.
TheCars1986 09-06-2011, 10:31 AM Did Niqui's ex-boyfriend still live in the apartment complex? I think it's a little odd that her Blazer would have been there for months and he wouldn't have recognized it as her car if he still lived there.
Yes but the car was registered to Bobby, Niqui's new boyfriend which could account for why her ex did not recognize it.
"More than friends on several occasions" doesn't necessarily mean an affair to me. An affair is an extended relationship. The phrase above could simply mean that she sought comfort (perhaps after the near inevitable fights that planning a wedding) in a friend. Is it cheating? Sure. Is it an affair? No. It's a person who is human using a coping skill that is not necessarily the most appropriate thing to do.
Being "more than friends on several occasions", definitely screams affair to me. That by definition is an "extended relationship". Sure Niqui may have sought comfort from Swint, but she was with Bobby the entire time. However you want to classify it, she was still cheating on Bobby with Swint over an extended period of time.
WishfulDreamer 11-03-2012, 09:15 AM Has anyone seen the Disappeared episode on Niqui? One of Niqui's sisters said that she saw Tommy attempted to rape Niqui some time before her disappearance and that Tommy seemed to want to be more than friends. No word of an actual affair mentioned.
I also just want to say that Niqui's family seems very devoted and determined for a resolution and I feel for them. I really hope they get answers soon. It is also interesting to note that Bobby, the fiance, is still an active part of their lives and is close to Niqui's daughter, who would now be twenty years old. In the Disappeared segment, she refers to him as being like her stepfather.
TheCars1986 11-05-2012, 02:55 PM Has anyone seen the Disappeared episode on Niqui? One of Niqui's sisters said that she saw Tommy attempted to rape Niqui some time before her disappearance and that Tommy seemed to want to be more than friends. No word of an actual affair mentioned.
I also just want to say that Niqui's family seems very devoted and determined for a resolution and I feel for them. I really hope they get answers soon. It is also interesting to note that Bobby, the fiance, is still an active part of their lives and is close to Niqui's daughter, who would now be twenty years old. In the Disappeared segment, she refers to him as being like her stepfather.
Yeah I saw this episode too, and it was what initially brought Swint to my attention as the most likely person responsible in her disappearance.
TheCars1986 03-08-2014, 12:31 PM Ok so I have to amend my previous stance that Swint and Niqui were having an affair. Apparently, her sisters remark was misinterpreted by me and taken out of context. She (in a different article) said that Niqui looked up to Swint as a "big brother" type figure, and someone who she thought was cool. Her sister however did not like Swint and got a weird vibe from him. Here's a quote:
“I can remember incidents … I had just stopped by her house … and I heard her screaming,” McCown-Luster said.
She opened the door to see Niqui lying on a chair with her foot on Swint’s chest as he pressed himself over her.
“(Niqui) was like, ‘Help get him off of me. He is trying to rape me.’” McCown-Luster said. “And he just kind of like laughed it off like he was playing. Then he started chasing us both around the house.
“There were just so many times where he tried to do things like that. Like he was playing around. But I looked at it like, if I wasn’t there, what would have happened?”
Seems fairly obvious to me now that Swint wanted to be more than friends, Niqui probably balked at his advances, and he became angered and killed her. He was about to be arrested for another murder of a prostitute in 1991, but he killed himself just as the officers arrived.
WishfulDreamer 03-08-2014, 12:41 PM I also believe Swint is more than likely responsible. This would also explain why Niqui's car was left at her ex-boyfriend's home: A perfect red herring.
We know that Niqui picked up her laundry and that she phoned a friend about certain hair products she wanted to find. I think it's possible that Swint, desirous of a sexual relationship with her, was following her that day and her rejection of him culminated in murder. I think there's little evidence of an affair and that she was probably afraid of him, considering the incident her sister walked in on. Seems like he was being very persistent until he ultimately attacked her.
Victoria81 08-29-2014, 11:40 AM Yeah, just because Bobby wanted to sell the ring, doesn't make him guilty. My husband and I just watched this and he said he would have sold my ring too, to raise money to find me. You can always buy the ring back! It is just a material thing..
mothwings 02-23-2018, 08:32 PM With some updates, this case aired on Crime Watch Daily last week in 4 parts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHbE-DL5ZHc
Strange case indeed.
James T 08-14-2018, 04:18 PM Doesn't seem remotely strange-the laundromat outside footage showed she exited there safely-so obviously the two guys were just a pair of idiots trying it on & were long gone when she returned. That she was having an affair with Swint points to her having gone to him-possibly to call it off due to the impending marriage & he snapped & murdered her-just like he had to another woman several years earlier. Although the boyfriend seemed to be a hothead his only reason for killing her would be if he had found out about her cheating on him & that seems highly unlikely.
MegtheEgg86 08-18-2018, 09:57 PM I don't think there was ever any evidence Niqui had an affair with Tommy Swint--but there was apparently a lot to suggest Swint had something of a fascination for her that wasn't reciprocated in kind.
Did Swint also live in that apartment complex where Niqui's car was found, or had he once lived there? I know Niqui's former boyfriend and father of her child did, but wasn't sure about Swint.
I always get a weird chill about the suspect in this one because I was just over the river in Columbus, GA the day Swint shot himself. It was all over the news that night.
TheCars1986 08-20-2018, 06:51 AM I don't think there was ever any evidence Niqui had an affair with Tommy Swint--but there was apparently a lot to suggest Swint had something of a fascination for her that wasn't reciprocated in kind.
According to Niqui's sister, she saw Tommy as more of a big brother figure than a potential love interest. Swint on the other hand wanted more, and his sister thought he acted very inappropriately around her, although Niqui just laughed it off.
Did Swint also live in that apartment complex where Niqui's car was found, or had he once lived there? I know Niqui's former boyfriend and father of her child did, but wasn't sure about Swint.
Yes, I seem to recall that Swint did live there at one point and the father of her child living there at the time was just a coincidence.
macbeth06 08-29-2018, 02:46 AM Swint did it they need to arrest him
TheCars1986 08-29-2018, 07:05 AM Swint did it they need to arrest him
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TheCars1986 06-12-2026, 08:21 AM According to Charley Project:
On the day of her disappearance, McCown tried to contact her sister several times. Her sister says McCown was seeing another man, Tommy L. Swint, whom Webster didn't know about. Her sister warned McCown to end the relationship.
If this is true (or even a rumor), I would think the cops would have brought this up when questioning Niqui's fiance Bobby, which could explain why he cancelled the wedding and tried returning the rings in the days after her disappearance. Also:
She had made a phone call to Dayton the day she went missing; she spoke to a coworker who lived about a mile from the apartment complex.
Authorities believe she drove to Dayton after leaving the laundromat and something happened to her there.
Tommy Swint was a coworker of Niqui's. And so was Tommy Swint's wife, Darlene Williams. According to this (https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/missing-marilyn-niqui-mccown/) link:
Around 3:30 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. - Niqui calls her coworker Darlene Williams
Both Swint and Williams called out of work the day after Niqui's disappearance. And both Swint and Williams lived in Dayton, Ohio at that time.
TheCars1986 06-12-2026, 09:42 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dx9I3Ju6Ko
Video of an interview the cops did with Tommy Swint concerning Niqui in 2002.
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